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>> don't go anywhere "smerconish" is waiting for you right now. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. you couldn't make this stuff up. after seven years of hollow votes, president trump forced to pull the gop health care bill from the house before its likely defeat. i'll tell you the real reason i think it failed. plus, this was a big week with regard to the presumed russian meddling in our election complete with the attempted criminalization of the collection of incidental u.s. intelligence. so, will partisan politics now prevent us from learning the truth? and governor arnold schwarzenegger told me there was a book i needed to read. it's called, well, "rat
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blanked." and it reshapes the map of american politics. the governorator was right and the author of the book is here. you know his voice from "the simpsons" and his face from this is spinal tap but harry shearer a political satirist and he is here to turn it up to 11. but, first, yesterday on my siruisxm radio program should the gop go down in flames, which it did. answer a basic, a fundamental question. what was the goal? say what you will about president obama and the affordable care act but it stood for a purpose that everyone, even opponents understood, namely to supply more americans with health care and establish universal coverage. that was the failure with the republican plan. that there was no universal objective. no singular purpose, no common
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denominator other than to dismantle the affordable care act, which might be fine, so long as you have a replacement that is capable of explanation. it is, after all, now an entitlement, which people are loathe to give up. but despite there having been more than 60 votes to appeal obamacare in the seven years since it passed now when it mattered and with control of the white house, the house of representatives and the senate, the gop couldn't get it done. proving that it's far easier to criticize than to govern. if you disagree with my premise, well, tweet me or post a comment on my facebook page and tell me, how would you fill in this blank? the gop health care plan sought to, what? until that question can be answered with something positive, something proactive and something that builds while it dedeconstructs i don't see i necessary to get a bill passed
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through both houses of congress. joining me now is charlie dent, a republican who had said that he would oppose the bill. congressman, you know i appreciate it whenever you're here. react tao my premise. don't you need to be for something in a circumstance like this? >> well, yes. when we first started the new year, again, mike, thanks for having me on the show and go lehigh. how about that ncaa championship out of wrestling this year. with that said, i want to get back to something here. we started the year with, we started the year with talking about repeal only. i cautioned the leadership at the time, a repeal only strategy would be terrible. we would repeal it and then over the next few years we would replace it. we would never replace it. it would be too difficult and removed to a repeal and replace strategy. the replace was too rushed. all to improve the baseline for tax reform. this debate should have been more about the people who are going to be impacted by our decisions.
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and to reform medicare and to create, you know, tax credits for people in the exchanges. this is very hard work. i don't think it could have been pulled off in 60 days. so,er i think to a certain extent -- we did have an alternative to provide health care in a more competitive and providing greater choices, more competition and help make it a more market orniaiented approac and it was simply too rushed. >> you're a member of the tuesday group. the more moderate republicans. by the way, i'm thrilled to know there is such a collection of individuals in the house of representatives. is it possible to get your group and the freedom caucus on the same page? >> on this issue, i don't think so. because i think our goals and objectives were quite different. my reasons for opposition to the bill had to do with the fact that the medicaid changes simply were not -- they were not
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workable. i have a proposal right here from governors kasich and snider and sandoval and hutchinson. four republican governors who expressed real concerns that they weren't going tahave the appropriate flexibplexability a medicaid expansion states. they told me, they said, you know, if this happens, if this reform were to happen the people who would be off of medicaid wouldn't be able to afford medicaid on the exchanges because the tax credits would have been insufficient. they would have gone naked, no coverage. there was a failure to build coalitions and to help allies support this effort. and, the freedom caucus they had other reasons for proposing the bill. >> so, if you say that you can't get the freedom caucus and the tuesday group on the same page is that a failure of paul ryan? i want to show you a reaction from the right. this is what breitbart looks
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like this morning and they are calling into discussion whether paul ryan and speaker of the house intensifies in white house and congress. is his role in jeopardy? >> no. no, it's not. but, i mean, the truth be told when john boehner stepped down as speaker more than a year ago, i said that the dynamics that led to john boehner's resignation have not changed. the dynamics of the house republican conference hasn't changed. and that was going to be paul ryan's biggest challenge. those dynamics still must change. but, i'll tell you, mike, the big thing on health care is this. if we're going to have a durable, sustainable health care it must be done on a bipartisan basis. the failure of the democrats, i voted against obamacare at the time. they jammed this thing through on a partisan bases and we have been fighting about it every since. we as republicans should not make that same mistake. muscle it through on a partisan basis. the house could flip and the
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senate could flip and we would be back at this fighting ad nause nauseum. we need a durable, sustainable solution. >> to that point yesterday president trump said something that i want to show the audience and then have congressman dent react to. roll the tape, please. >> i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. because now they own obamacare. they own it. 100% own it. and this is not a republican health care. this is not anything but a democrat health care. >> it really frustrates me to see this treated as a hot potato because we're talking about something that keeps people alive. having made that observation, to the president's point, what could democrats do now if they were motivated. they have to acknowledge there are shortcomings with the affordable care act. what opportunity do democrats have to try to extend an olive branch and try to get something done? >> well, look, as you point out,
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there are democrats, you know, who love obamacare, but they know darn well that there are problems that need to be repaired. there are republicans who detest obamacare and know there are parts of that law that are going to be retained. i think one great area of potential collaboration, the democrats know the individual insurance market is broken and obamacare made it worse. the republicans acknowledge that. to repair at the very least the individual insurance market. that has to be repaired. we can also talk about, you know, some of the taxes paid for democrats and republicans do not like. the medical device tax and many don't like the cadillac tax and i can list some and find areas of agreement to improve this system. and, again, no matter what we do, we have to do it on a bipartisan basis because to get a bill through the senate is going to require 60 votes, we need at least eight democrat votes there, but we also need to build the coalition in the house. if we have someone on the hard right that can't get the yes on
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anything, well, then, of course, we have to have democrats help us get to 218 votes. >> no doubt. i applaud your approach. i think we need more bipartisanship and i think we only saw problems when individuals like charlie dent are willing to reach across the aisle. so, thank you for that, congressman. good to have you back. >> mike, great to be with you, as always. thanks. tweet me your thoughts @smerconish. joining me now to discuss health care phil rucker, the white house bureau chief for "washington post." his piece just out detailing the back story of how president trump tried to marshal support for the bill. it's taw rierrific read and kai health news mary agnes kerry. health care law is tough. this is the ultimate sausage factory. isn't that the lesson? >> it's so hard to get consensus within your own party with the
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republicans and hard to find policy solutions that work for everyone. it's very, very difficult and i think paul ryan and house republicans and president trump found that out in their efforts to rehaul the affordable care act. >> to your observation, even if this had been successful, it faced doom in the united states senate? >> absolutely. you had moderates there, including susan collins of maine and very concerned about the changes in the medicaid funding structure structure. there were concerns the subsidies wouldn't be enough, rather, to help people afford coverage. a lot of concerns that faced lots of opposition in the senate. >> phil rucker, is this really a good bill? that's not michael smerconish asking, in your "washington post" coverage today, that's president trump repeatedly during the course of the last week. explain. >> that's exactly right. it's a question that he asked when the bill was first introduced by speaker ryan back in the beginning of march and it kept nagging at him. he kept asking his advisors
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again and again, is this really a good bill? he couldn't convince himself that it was a good bill and, yet, he went forward to try to sell it. he was all in for the win. that's what he cared about. the big picture, the victory. he tried to sell it. this is a guy who wrote art of the deal. he campaigned by saying he would make the most beautiful deals like nobody had ever done in washington before and this was his big chance to prove it. unfortunately, for him, he failed. >> hey, phil, here's the tell. as you point out "the post" today the tell is that he was selling the rare product on which he refused to emblazon his own name. >> that's exactly right. look, this was a bill that was created by the house republicans, of course, in concert with the trump administration. not the ideal measure. if the bill passed it would have violated one of the promises on the campaign trail that he would provide health care coverage for all americans. ended up showing would have led to 24 million people not having
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insurance over the ten-year period after the bill was enacted. so, you know, trump was making a lot of sacrifices in pursuit of this broader victory, this win. he wanted something that he could claim as a big victory in his first 100 days. unfortunately, he's not going to get it on health care. he will look now to tax reform and other issues. but, you know, that's going to be very difficult, too. >> mary agnes kerry, you have a better handle on health care policy on law than with anyone i have ever spoken. i want to show you a tweet i sent out yesterday as the president was reacting to having withdraw this that got a lot of traction. i asked, what insurance company would, all caps, want to begin offering coverage under the aca when all president trump does is trash it? if he's out there saying it it is going to implode and explode and other republicans are saying likewise and i'm independent blue cross or etna or some other
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provider, why in the world do i all of a sudden want to be proactive under the aca? >> i think you raise an excellent point. insurers are looking for assurances either from the trump administration and congress to try to find out what sort of marketplace will there be in 2018. what sort of outreach will there be to get people covered, get people to sign up rather on the exchanges. what kind of support will there be? will there be administrative changes, perhaps, that will help them recover some of their losses as we had. we had a lot of sicker people get into the marketplace. their bids aren't due until later in the year, but that will be a key question. does the administration try to do anything to keep insurers in the market or do they not? do you see more insurers leave? does that hurt the next enrollment period and who gets the political blame for that? >> and, phil, to mary agnes carey's point is almost a trap being set now for the affordable care act to continue a downward
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spiral? >> potentially. and trump said in his comments yesterday after this bill failed that it was going to be all on the democrats. that nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and the democrats own obamacare. but the reality is he is the president of the united states. if something's not working and incumbent upon him to fix it. he doesn't think this law is working. he tried to fix it and he couldn't get it fixed and i think the american people over the next few years, if they see problems in the health care system are going to increasingly actually look to the administration to try to make this system better rather than pointing their fingers at the democrats in the minority. >> phil rucker, excellent job in "the post" today. mary agnes carey, you have a better handle on this than anyone i met. >> thank you. i asked you to fill in the blank. the gop health care bill sought to -- what did you reply? hit me with some tweets. the gop sought to discredit
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obama. okay, mom, veteran consumer, that's my point. you have to be for something. it has to be positive. is there another we can show everybody? mark says, discriminate. negativety is not going to move the ball forward is my point and apparently those, as well. how about from facebook, randy bograd. okay, it didn't pass. but obamacare still needs some tweaks. by the way, i'm someone who bought my family's health insurance through the exchanges. i know a little bit about this subject. i don't like the fact that all this negativety now is going to cause individuals who can turn it around to stay away from the affordable care act instead of fixing it. still to come, the administration and claims of surveillance fulfill exactly what general michael hayden predicted here on last week's show.
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the collection of incidental evidence. so, what's next? juliet is here. and he was in spinal tamp and does dozens of "simpson's" voices harry shearer is here. >> montgomery burns. >> keep it short and sweet. family, religion, friendship. these are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed must slay if you wish to succeed in business. t innistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. with e*trade's powerful trading tools, right at your fingertips, you have access to in-depth analysis, level 2 data, and a team of experienced traders ready to help you if you need it. ♪ ♪ it's like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are.
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the latest bombshell in the russian hack investigation came on friday. house intel chair devin nunes canceling tuesday's public hearings. this capped a week of back and forth regarding russia and president trump's claim three weeks ago that he was wiretapped by president obama. on wednesday,er enunes suggeste that trump members may have been picked up with foreign intelligence officials. the white house quickly seized this as substantiation of the president's tweets on march 4, which by the way, i don't think it was. nothing in what nunes says that
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justifies president trump tweeting that president obama was a bad or sick guy who tapped him at trump tower. remember, the critical tweet said that. terrible, just found out that obama had my wires tapped in trump tower just before the victory. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. only somebody not paying close attention will see this as affording president trump a defense of what he said about president obama. and it is something that was predicted right here last saturday by generaler michael hayden, former head of the cia and nsa watch. >> i think where this is going, michael, and i think this is the lifeline that i think the administration is hoping they can grab on to is something that we call incidental collection. so, i suspect if there is any example of a u.s. identity being unmasked that has any relationship to the trump campaign or trump tower. again, michael, very normal,
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very correct, very legal. i think at that point the white house goes, ah-ha, i told you so. i think this is where it's going. >> he was on wednesday afternoon congressman nunes traveled down pennsylvania avenue to share his thoughts with the president causing "new york times" in a friday editorial to label him a lap dog in a watchdog role. joining me now cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem. unpack, juliette what you heard from general hayden and how those events played themselves out this week? >> hayden predicted how it unfolded and argued the white house saw him and thought this might be our lifeline. what your viewers have to understand is that the law recognizes that there will be incidental collection. they're following a potential
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foreign intelligence agent and he happens to call me because we're doing some project together and, therefore, whatever i said to him might be captured. so, the law has -- it specifically dessinginates the potential for incidental collection and protects the u.s. citizen who may not be under surveillance. it's like -- it's so normal that the fact that the trump administration would come out and say, ah-ha this is the moment. as you said, it really wasn't the moment. shows a certain amount of desperation about the investigation and how it's unfolding at this stage. i will say also on nunes, it was a meltdown week for him because, remember, by friday he was kind of even backtracking from what he said. and he needs, i mean, he basically needs to go for having done this. >> well, i want to show you, show everybody part of what he said this week after making that trip to the white house. roll that tape, please. >> to me, it's clear that i would be concerned if i was the president. and that's why i wanted him to
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know and i felt like i had to a duty and obligation to tell him because he has been taking a lot of heat in the news media and i think to some degree there are some things he should look at to see whether he thinks the collection is proper or not. >> juliette, when he said he thinks there are things he, president trump, should look at. i said, wait, that's your job. >> yeah. i mean, basically, nunes has one job and he didn't do it. which is to be the oversight committee. to ensure that this election was secure. and that there is no collusion with the trump campaign. look, a lot of evidence is coming out. we're only talking about one story this week. stories about manafort and past lobbying efforts and by friday a story about mike flynn the former national security adviser. all these different pieces cut across the spectrum from mere coincidence to potential collusion and that's what an investigation is about.
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the idea that, you know, they haven't shown anything yet seems to be the answer by trump supporters. this is what an investigation does. it takes all those different pieces from foreign intelligence, wiretaps, surveillance, the potential that one of these witnesses and i believe it might be mike flynn is talking to investigators about what he knows. all of those pieces will come together and we'll see at some stage whether a legal case can be made. >> okay. now, to go back to general hayden and saying when all is said and done the white house will try to portray in criminal terms what is the routine collection of incidental evidence. i want to show you president trump seizing the moment. roll the tape. >> do you feel vindicated by chairman nunes coming over here? >> i somewhat do. i must tell you i somewhat do. i very much appreciated the fact that they found what they found. >> so, he now sees vindication,er but i remind the audience of the tweet that began
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all this three weeks ago today, just found out that obama had my wires tapped in trump tower. this is mccarthyism. in an interview with michael sheer, the president said i had that in quotation marks, i'm paraphrasing but a very liberal interpretation of what i meant by wiretapping. explain. >> well, when trump said those tweets or wrote those tweets, he clearly wanted the american public to believe that president obama himself, with no predicate, demanded of the fbi that they put wiretaps on trump tower and on trump himself. first of all, you can't do that. there's no way that a president could do that. but even assuming he is right, it would be so, it's such a hostile statement about the previous administration and i think what's happened this week is it led comey, director comey by monday to say, look, this is
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about my investigators and this investigation. i was wrong. i thought comey would not validate that there was a criminal investigation going on or investigation going on about potential collusions with the trump administration. it was a jaw dropping moment. and the reason why i believe now comey did that was to protect his agency and to protect the investigation. it is now almost impossible for the trump administration to close down the fbi investigation. they can, you know, sort of be in collusion with nunes which is clearly the case right now. but it's almost impossible now to have almost any influence, which is good, over an independent investigation about trump ties to the russian hacking events. >> hey, juliette, final thought. tell me yea or nay. whether there was an aiding and abetting of a hacking. that is the legal issue. we don't know the answer to that question. but when all is said and done, that is the issue.
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>> that's the issue. and on the scale from zero to ten. zero being these are all coincidences, i am now at a seven. >> juliette, thank you. all of our scales here today go from 1 to 11 because harry shearer is still to come. those of you who remember "spinal tap." catherine, what have you got? it's clear as mud that nunes is in trump's pockt and not imparlimparl impartial. he must go and be investigated for his own russian ties. look, all i can tell you is that i don't think he should have made that trip down pennsylvania avenue and given a briefing to the president because that's not his role. his role is to be our eyes and ears and not the president's. that's how i see it. up next, it's a political roar shack test. oh, i love this. put it up on the screen. what does this look like? what do you see in that image?
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some see goofy kicking donald duck. it is actually pennsylvania's seva seventh congressional district. redrawn that way in the gop's operation red map which literally change the shape of how america votes. it was a project that took jerry m jerrymandering to new highs or lows. how did it happen? i'll explain. t-mobile one save you hundreds a year. right now get two lines of data for $100 dollars. with taxes and fees included. that's right 2 unlimited lines for just $100 bucks. all in. and right now, pair up those two lines with two free samsung galaxy s7 when you switch. yup! free. so switch and save hundreds when you go all unlimited with t-mobile. it's your glass of willpower that helps keep cravings...
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show me female vocalist of the year. thank you so much. thank you so much acm's, i appreciate it. show me acm best moments. i could never have wished for, asked for and dreamt of anything more than this. catch your favorite moments from the acm awards and an exclusive encore performance by kelsea ballerini following the show on xfinity x1. the acm awards. live on sunday, april 2nd 8/7 central on cbs. gerrymandering the drawing of political boundary lines to support a partisan purpose, nothing new about that. the word itself coined in 1812 and both parties do it. but in the aftermath of president obama's 2008 election,
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republicans took the practice to new heights, which partly explains why today republicans have got 68 of 99 chambers, both houses in 35 states, a modern record of 33 governors and trifectas meaning both chambers and the governor in 25 states. and due to gerrymandering they will have a decade-long advantage. david daley spells it out all in a book with a title i cannot read. let's call it "rat blanked." the true story behind the secret plan to steal america's democracy. joining me now is author david daley, senior fellow for fair vote and former editor in chief at salon.com. david, it is a tale as old as time. so, what was different about operation red map? >> it was a brilliant and
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effective and incredibly chief way to take control of the political map for the entire decade. a handful of really savvy republican strategists reinvented the oldest trick in the book, the gerrymander in an audacious new way with really modern technology that allowed them to draw surgical, precise lines of which every single squiggle is there for a reason. the goal was to capture state legislative chambers and take control of them so that after the 2010 census, republicans were able to lock the doors and have the only hands on the maps when state legislative lines were drawn and then when the congressional lines were drawn. for $30 million they took control of the house for a decade. >> i'm going to put up both pa 7th and michigan's 14th while you continue to discuss
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"operation red map." i want to make clear, nothing nefarious, nothing illegal. the democrats were asleep at the switch or they could have done likewise. >> oh, absolutely. the republicans laid out what their plan was going to be in an op-ed piece in "wall street journal" in march of 2010 written by karl rove. lays out there are 113 legislative seats in 17 states that if the republicans can take them over, they would have the ability to draw the lines for 190 of the 435 congressional seats. that's a good advantage when you only need 218 to have a majority. the democratic party lacked both the strategic imagination to come up with this idea on their own. but, also, they could not play defense against it when the republicans laid it out on the op-ed page of the largest newspaper in the country. >> chris jankowski not a name
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that i would know as well james carville or mary madeline, but he not only was the architect of this, but in your book, "rat blanked." he was quite proud laying it it out for you. saying, yeah, that's exactly what we did. >> this is the political heist of the century, of the decade. i mean, for $30 million, republicans took control of all of these blue and purple states at the legislative level and then massive control at the house level that has not abated throughout this decade. i would be proud of that, as well. it is a terrific accomplishment. on the other hand, it has had true negatives for our democracy. >> no doubt about it. i'm with the governorator on this. i want the sharpy in their hands and not the politicians. quickly respond to this.
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i do pay attention to this data. i know there is the bill bishop big sort argument out there and david wassermann a cook political report has his whole crackle barrel versus whole foods conversation which speaks to self-sorting driving the bus, not gerrymandering. take my final 30 seconds and respond to that. >> if the lines did not matter this much, politicians would not fight so fiercely to control them and to have the pen in their hands. the numbers bear this out. if you look at a state like pennsylvania, 2008 and 2012, the same number of votes for democratic house candidates in both years. 2008 it elects seven republicans and 12 democrats. in 2012, it's 13-5, republican. based on the same democratic majorities. you could say that all of the democrats in pennsylvania move during that period in time or you could admit what actually happened, which is that the lines changed. we have been big sorted by big
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data and by big technology. >> and here is the take away from "rat blanked." those zero elections are of huge consequence. david daley, thank you for being here. i'm glad the governorator recommended your book tao me. >> thank you. hit me with another tweet before we move on. smerconish, new-found respect for you. excellent "spinal tap" reference. why can't ten just be named louder? in fact, i invited my next guest here after he tweeted me last week. the multi-talented harry shearer is here to talk politics. he does dozens of voices for "simpsons" and played in "this
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i didn't answer his question. i thought, instead, i'd invite him on the program and give him more time. he hosts the podcast and radio program la show. this is harry shearer. what is it you were saying tame last week in that tweet about james clapper? >> well, thank you for inviting me, michael. what i was pointing out was that james clapper was being now presented to the public as a truth teller and, of course, we know that intelligence personnel are expected to tell the unvarnish eed truth to their primary customer which is the president and his aides. when they speak to the public they may relate to the old varnish and he testified in a senate hearing that he was asked by the senator of oregon whether there was blanket surveillance of americans by american intelligence agencies. and he said, no. and, of course, a couple months
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later the snowden revelations came out and he had to send a note to congress saying, well, i'm sorry about the little thing there. so, you know, we're old enough, some of us, to remember a time very recently when intelligence was weaponized. intelligence people stood up and went to shows like this on "meet the press." and told what one think tank calculated were 935 lies to get us into the iraq war. so, i'm just suggesting that if we're looking -- you know, this is a story now that is very much like a house of mirrors where intelligence is being talked about and being referred to, but never, ever being revealed. we saw no evidence of anything, but we see a lot of people giving their opinions and their assessments. and my suspicion is that we're living in a house of mirrors right now. and in a house of mirrors everything ends up looking two dimensional. i don't know what that means --
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>> it does, indeed. am i misreading harry shearer if i think, therefore, you are giving the president the burden -- you're giving the benefit of the doubt, that's what i should say. in so far you have these intelligence community sources who are saying that his tweet pertaining to his predecessor is without merit. how do you see that issue is what i'm really asking. >> yeah, i know. and i'm -- i should be saying i'm not here as a supporter of any politician. i think it's very likely, according to some people, that the president was in violation of the -- but congress isn't investigating that. they're investigating this other much murkier stuff. i'm not, you know, i think benefit of the doubt is not what we have here. we should have more doubt because the picture is very cloudy. one question did occur to me that i would love to have you or your viewers or anybody else answer. we were told after the snowden
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revelations that this did great damage to the country because terrorists were now learning to communicate and not be surveilled. be free of surveillance. yet, we're led to believe that russian operatives from probably the most sophisticated intelligence operation in the world were in frequent contact with representatives of a then probably losing presidential campaign and using communications means opens them up to blanket surveillance. sounds like the russians were being pretty dopey at that point. didn't they know snowden was living in moscow. they could have called him up and asked how to avoid this. >> if they want it avoided because i'm going down that rabbit hole with harry shearer and saying maybe they wanted us to know what we know today to foment more decent here in the united states. >> that's where the house of mirrors comes in and very hard at that point to know which of these reflections we're looking at as real. i'm a skeptic and professional
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skeptic. i try to spread that particular mode of thought wherever i can because i think it's a useful deterrent to a lot of spin that's going around and has been going around for years. i think -- >> harry -- >> go ahead, sorry. >> i was going to say, pardon me, final question. do you ever order a pizza as ned flanders? >> well, ned doesn't eat pizza very much because it's not blessed. >> it's a privilege to have you here. keep tweeting me, okay. i love reading what you send in during the program. >> thank you very much. >> that's harry shearer. keep tweeting me. let's see what else the audience is smerconish, seriously, dissemination of incidental info is against the law. look, general michael hayden, go back and watch what general hayden said a week ago.
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but you're absolutely right that if in fact you're saying they had six years and they were always voting to repeal it but never came up with a plan in all that time, and there's no reason why they can't pass something if they can get their own house in order. another one. what else? nunes needs to go. he's been compromised and can no longer do his job. lost all credibility. chris, it was a mistake for him to travel down pennsylvania avenue and brief the president of the united states because that's not his boss in this regard. one more. this is from facebook. general hayden should buy a lottery ticket. yeah, well, a lottery ticket is luck. you know, his was knowledge and skill. and i just thought that he gave us a roadmap of exactly what was going to transpire. thank you for watching. i'll see you next week. follow me on twitter. right now, get two lines of unlimited data for a hundred bucks. taxes and fees included! two lines, a hundred dollars, all in, all unlimited. switch today.
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well, good morning. so glad to have your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. you're in the "cnn newsroom." no deal, to vote, no obamacare repeal, at least for now. today president trump and the republican party are trying to move forward after their signature campaign promise was put on the shelf. >> gop lawmakers still grappling with yesterday's health care defeat coming at the hands of a faction of house republican critics who would not budge despite hours of deal making. house speaker paul ryan conceded defeat yesterday, saying obamacare is the law of the land. >> the fate of that law and the 20
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