welcome back. new details about the missile strikes on syria. new action to determine whether russian forces were involved in the attacks. new questio about how ts fits into a larger strategy.

let's start with barbara starr at the pentagon. the u.s. military is investigating whether russia was complicit in the chemical weapons attack. what are they saying? >> good evening, anderson. what we learned here at the pentagon is that they want to see if there is credible evidence that russia was complicit, was russia involved, how much did the russian military know about what was going on at that air base and syria's chemical weapons program. the evidence may be mounting. what we know, officials have confirmed, there was a russian drone operating over that hospital before it was bombed. it flew over the hospital taking pictures for a while. the russian drone goes away and suddenly a couple hours later a warplane comes in and drops a conventional bomb in this area, apparently to try to destroy evidence of the chemical attack. so it was a russian drone and they don't know who was flying that airplane. was it a russian crew in the airplane? the pentagon saying, they're nwt

going to investigate all credible evidence of russian involvement. it appears that they are already headed in that direction. they also say they will aggressively investigate now the syrian chemical weapons program. a bit of an odd statement, because the world has seen this now for several years. >> what are you learning about the time line of how the u.s. strike took place? >> well, you will recall, this begins to unfold in front of the worl on tuesday when that attack happened. shortly thereafter, what we know is throughout tuesday and wednesday, the u.s. military, the defense department began to move very rapidly to begin to plan what they could do. by wednesday, they have clear direction from the white house. president trump wants to see some options. they keep plowing ahead with the plan. they begin to move ships. they get things into place. the president is finally briefed on the final details on

thursday. he gives the go ahead around 4:30 thursday. within three hours on thursday, last night, 8:40 east coast time, or a little bit before that, the tomahawks are launched and the president is briefed on the impact of the strike just a short time later. so really, a 48-hour planning cycle start to finish moving very rapidly through this. limited strike, yes. but it was the message that the white house chose to send that you have been talking about all night, the message to assad basically, don't do this again. you do it again, we will keep attacking. >> what do we know about what if any more action may be taken? >> well, right now, there's no indication of any imminent military action as far as we know. again, holding in reserve that if assad does this again, the u.s. may decide to do it again. but there is another wrinkle out

there tonight. as you know, lots of u.s. troops in syria. they want to make sure they're safe. >> barbara starr, thanks. he operation is a stand-alone proposition has drone praise. questions are being raised about how it fits into a larger strategy and how to reconcile it with the policy of keeping syrian refugees from coming here. shortly after the strike, massachusetts democratic congressman and iraq war veteran says potus enough to launch 50 tomahawks but not enough to let the victims of assad find refuge and freedom here. i spoke with the congressman earlier this evening. you have obviously had harsh words against president trump in the past. as a member of the house armed services committee, what are your thoughts on his decision to strike syria? >> we cannot stand by while innocent civilians are murdered by chemical weapons. it's important to send a message this is not acceptable. so the initial military action is okay.

but the question that we all have to ask now is, what's next? what is the end game? where is this all headed? those are the questions we're asking tonight. >> do you think this administration has a strategy in place? because it does seem like a major shift for them just even from last week comments that the secretary of state made and the initial response to the chemical strike on tuesday. >> if they have a strategy, they haven't briefed it to us. they seem to be all over the map. you are right. earlier this week, president trump seemed to indicate that assad should stay in power. now all of a sudden, assad has to go. so there are an awful lot of questions that remain unanswered here. at the end of the day, it's just not fair to our troops or the american public to start a military action and not have a goal, not have something that you are trying to achieve. when i was on the ground in iraq, even in the midst of a war that i often disagreed with, i detood what i was there to do. i could go outn just some small patrol in a neighborhood

in a city in iraq, but i understood that that patrol's ultimate mission was to empower the government of iraq so that ultimately iraq could take care of its own national security and we could go home. there's no clear direction like that in syria right now. we don't even know which government we're trying to support. >> is it clear to you what thissethis ed administration's policy is in terms of assad? in the obama administration, the u.s. policy was for the removal of assad, that assad had to go. clearly red lines were violated and the u.s. didn't act. but again, secretary tillerson last week seemed to indicate that it was up to the syrian people to decide about assad. is it clear -- is it still u.s. policy that assad must go? >> i have no idea. i think it sends a frightening message when i'm sitting here as a member of the house armed services committee and i have no idea what our policy is.

>> you really don't know? that's going to be startling to some folks. >> no, i don't. because on monday, it was one thing. now it seems to be another. we need to understand these goals. president trump owes that to the american people. we need to understand what exactly he is trying to achieve, especially with any further military action. now, look, we can say that the message sent by these 59 tomahawks was don't use chemical weapons. that's fine. but what comes next has to have an intention, a purpose. frankly, we all that to the troops. how are you going to ask young men and women to risk their lives for what? for an uncertain goal. for an end game that you can't even describe. that's why having a strategy is so critical. and we yet to hear it from the trump administration. >> do you foresee or would you support further strikes with tomahawks or there's -- senator mccain talked about trying to take out syria's entire air

force so that can't drop barrel bombs, they can't do the chemical attacks we have seen now. >> again, i just want to see what the goal is, what the plan is. it's gotta be a long-term plan. if we're just going to expend munitions in syria and still find ourselves in the same exact place a couple years from now where we are today, then i don't see the point. these are the kinds of things that the trump administration has to answer. representative steve russell from oklahoma and i are both iraq war veterans. we came together last night just as this -- these events were unfolding and issued a bipartisan statement. basically saying that this initial action is okay. we understand it. but we need to know what's going to come next. so this is a place where we should be able to find bipartisan agreement, a place where congress can do its job to authorize further use of military force. it has to start with a plan from the administration. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you.

let's bring in the panel, fareed zakaria, mark hertling and c and clarissa ward. have you seen or heard talk of a shift in the balance of power or any kind of change on perceptions of the balance of power? >> well, i think, anderson, you are not going to see a shift on the battlefield in terms of this is unlikely to really reign in the winning streak that the regime of assad has been on. but where you might see a bit of shift in balance is in this larger proxy war. for a long time now, the u.s. has essentially been sitting on the sidelines kind of ringing its hands over what to do and who if anyone to support while russia has sort of emerged as the dominant force in the syrian conflict. i do think that for better or

for worse or with whatever intention there was behind it, these u.s. strikes have certainly forced everyone at the negotiating table, whether it's the russians, whether it's the iranians, whether it's hezbollah, whether it's those supporting the opposition to kind of reassess and take stock for a moment that the u.s. actually does have some leverage and is potentially going to involve itself, maybe not intervening further, but having more of an impact, more of a voice and more of a say. >> fareed, general hayden said, you can't go against assad and syria at the same time. the u.s. just -- excuse me, go against isis and assad at the same time and that isis is the priority for the u.s. do you agree with that? >> i think one has to remember the problem here is that there are no good guys in syria. we hate assad. we hate isis. we hate al qaeda. those are the choices. i think general hayden is right

that in the long run, our strategy has to be an isis first strategy, not an american first strategy. isis is the main target. isis is the main enemy. in that context, there's only so much we can do to weaken assad. because let's say we were to keep going on this path. the weaker assad gets, stronger isis gets. not tactically, because they're always fighting in the same area. but overall, you know, the two strongest military forces in syria are isis and assad. we're now in the next few weeks going to return, i assume, to what the trump administration's primary focus has been, the war against isis, the battle against isis. in doing that, we're going to be going hammer and tongs after isis. isis is also the assad regime's main antagonist. in a strange sense, the assad regime is in covert alliance with us, even though we just bombed that. that's the complexity. that's why we have to keep in

mind, certainly the first priority is the defeat of isis. we have actually gotten very close. i suspect the trump administration will continue do that, which is why it keeps pointing out, this is a one off. we're not going to do more. their real priority is to get back to the fight against isis. >> matt, senator mccain was on and was talking about he would like to see the elimination of more attacks against the syrian air force, eliminate their capability and creation of safe zones. all of that seems unlikely until, if it every is going to happen, until the battle against isis is completed. >> there's the battle against isis, which you are right about. and then there's also the fact that russia set up what they call area defense and denial systems, radars, missile systems throughout government held areas. russian troops, russian intel ge intelligence forces.

i find it hard to believe that at this point, anybody in the white house or the united states is eager to get into a shooting war with the russians which you would be risking in that situation. then you are into -- there's an end game issue here. once you get there, that's a -- you are at another level. >> general hertling, from a military standpoint, if you do say you want to do what senator mccain is recommending, which is ground their air fleet, even if you are not destroying all their aircraft, shoot one down so you ground it and create the safe zones, if rus challenges, if russia decides to challenge you in that, the risk of an escalation to matt's point is enormous. >> it's huge. and i would counter senator mccain and lean more toward congressman molton in terms of an overarching strategy. we only used at different times elements of our national power concerning isis. we have used the military -- i'm

sorry, regarding syria. we have used the military against isis. we have used -- attempted in the obama administration to use massive amount of diplomacy with the russians and the syrians. those are only two of the powers and they're not synchronized. if you bring all the elements of national power to bear, diplomacy, military, economy, information, we're starting to see some informational tools being used against the russians because they have been the ones supporting assad. the last thing i would say is, yes, our main fight should be against isis. but as long as assad is there, isis will continue to grow. it was just like isis in iraq as long as malla kye was there. we can counter mr. assad. get more of a representative government. bring people to the peace table. at the same time, fight this terrorist scourge with isis. we can't separate them. they're combined. >> i think it works in theory.

i have a lot of respect for mark hertling. the problem is this, consider the situation here, which is if we were to achieve the objective we seek on the assad front, if we were to be able -- if we were able to oust the regime of assad tomorrow, what would happen? there's a large part of syria that is ruled by the assad regime, that's ruled by -- a lot of the minorities. they would all b inthreat. it would be chaos. most likely, those areas would be penetrated by jihadis at that point. syria would go into a free-for-all. certainly it would strengthen the forces of isis and al qaeda. we're in this very awkward situation. we don't want assad in power. but we don't want a power vacuum, either. the idea we could carefully core great a transition from assad to a representative government of moderate syrians that would rule the place, that hasn't been our

experience in places like iraq, afghanistan, yemen. you go from the dictator to chaos. >> go ahead. >> that's not what i was suggesting. i appreciate that. you are talking forced regime change. boy, have we learned some really bad lessons about doing that. with the power of diplomacy with forcing the russians to do some things with mr. assad, with information and perhaps with some type of federation -- i don't know. i'm not a politician. but i do know there might be a better way as opposed to forced regime change. don't misunderstand, i am not into a regime change. we have seen the power that that brings about. and it's awful. we can't go that way. >> clarissa, as you are on the ground there, just the sheer complexity of all the different actors inside syria and kind of the ever shifting areas that they are operating in and control, it's hard to kind of

overstate just how complex a scenario it is. >> it's incredibly complex. i mean, i have spent six years studying this and spending so much time inside rebel held syria. i can barely get my head around all of the different groups operating on the ground with different proxies. i did not imagine this time a week ago we would see president donald trump emerging as a hero to rebel forces on the ground who have given him his own no, ma'am da gar. we're in uncharted territory. it doesn't seem -- >> abu ivankariki. it's a no, ma'am da gar like many use. we have seen them posting pictures of president trump and underneath it says, we love you. this is a really unusual situation. i do think though if we just look for one second at the micro

here, if we look at the idea that potentially this series of strikes may -- i hasten to say may have stopped the regime or at least caused them to think twice about using chemical weapons, again, and killing dozens and dozens of children, surely that's something to be embraced. >> i want to thank everybody on the panel. the politics surrounding this, specifically president trump's sharp change of mind since his inauguration about u.s. military involvement in syria. how syria and the world got here. the long and brutal road from what started out as peaceful mass protests against the regime to atrocities to missile strikes last night. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a coupe soup. [woman] so beautiful. [man] beautiful just like you. [woman] oh, why thank you.

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as we have been reporting, the president's decision to strike syria marks a big change for the administration policy. you can make the case it reflects the fact that the oval office changes you, that said, this is a drastic change from 2012 when as a citizen donald trump was not only against u.s. involvement in syria, he was loudly warning that any u.s. strike would be for cynical motives. here is a tweet from october that year. now that obama's numbers are in tailspin, watch for him to strike in libya or iran. that was then. i have been seeing on twitter people pointing to that tweet today saying, is that the situation now? i happen to think that's unfair. i think that tweet was unfair.

i think the office -- being in office is different than being a civilian and reading about the stuff in the paper or even as a candidate. when you hear people asking that wag the dog theory, what do you think? >> the first thing i tell them is take a step back and recognize that president trump passed his first test on the world stage. he was challenged. he stood up. he was decisive. he moved quickly. i think he had excellent results. when we talk about previous comments he made, what he is faced with is a humanitarian crisis. had to send a msage that no longer are we going to lead from the back when it comes to chemical weapons and regimes like assad. i think there's other folks that were sent a message, north korea. kim jong-un was sent a message that president trump is not to be trifled with. the u.n. was sent a message as well. one that if they're going to continue to coddle regimes like assad, then the u.s. will go it

alone and get it done themselves. >> it's a change in policy, essentially, from what donald trump talked about during the campaign. he was asked about humanitarian interventions. he was asked about -- just recently said, i'm not the -- we're not the world's policemen. i'm not president of the world. yet, this is clearly taking a leadership role on the world stage as a standing up for a moral principal. >> i don't know if i would call it a change in policy so much as a deviation from a stated policy. as you laid out, during the campaign and even after being sworn in, he sort of put humanitarian concerns to the side. this wasn't going to be the use of soft power. he ridiculed hillary clinton for that during the campaign. when asked about it, he said he didn't intend to make active use of it. a policy he might want to rethink now. he has to use all the tools at his disposal in this tricky part of the world. he sent a message to dferent players. the message to russia remains to

be seen. we will have more on that guess when the secretary of state meets face to face with putin and they try and discuss this. make no mistake about it, this is not something that was expected. many of the political supporters of the president have said, this wasn't what we wanted. this isn't what you promised. the russian president sort of saying, this is very much at odds with campaign rhetoric. if there's going to be a change, if this isn't just a deviation but a change or a transformation, it's going to need to happen from the secretary of state, from the president himself, from the national security apparatus. we started out with one set of intentions, the situation on the ground changed, now we're going in a different direction. >> we have seen this with many presidents. george w. bush who campaigned against nation building and then ends up after 9/11, understandably, ends up in afghanistan and we have been nation building in that country for a very long time now. president obama campaigned on

closing down gitmo and that didn't happen. >> certainly, you give a new president leeway when it comes to these issues he is challenged with on the world stage. i think the cynicism comes in for donald trump because this wasn't just a change in a grade of a view or a slight change, like you said. it was -- this is now foreign policy by whiplash. it's a 180-degree change in where he was. look, i am glad that he was moved by the images of dead babies and said that the world cannot turn away. he is right about that. but guess what? there were more dead babies in 2013 when he was tweeting at president obama it would be stupid to go into syria, calling him a fool to be considering the kind of action that he himself took on yesterday. then when you also have somebody who has talked about banning refugees from syria whose

families have suffered those same exact dead babies and who want to come here to be able to save the rest of their children, that's where you have the cynicism and the hypocrisy involved. we need a strategy. we need what he is going to do there long-term. >> jason, senator rand paul has been critical of the strike. i want to play something he said earlier. >> our founders in the original days believed that war should be declared by congress. before you get into the debate of whether we should or shouldn't, we should start out with the law. the law says that the president does not have the power to declare a war, does not have the power to take us to war. >> what do you make of that? as a civilian, donald trump tweeted about president obama needing to seek permission from congress on military action. >> i think it's important to point out this isn't a regime change. this is a targeted specific strike to make sure assad did not have the capability to deliver chemical weapons and

kill more of his own people. it goes beyond that. it's important to point out how this is a national security issue for the united states directly. not only our interest in the region but they could try to deploy the weapons to israel, to go to turkey, go to the kurds, our allies in iraq. we had to take action here. i think it was good he took such a decisive step. i think respectfully with regard to senator paul, i think he is wrong here. this was a national security threat. if there are additional strikes that are coming up, there's a longer term engagement or there are issues we decide we have to do something about assad directly, then yes, we need to go to congress. the president was within his bounds to do so. >> it doesn't seem like this goes beyond this initial strike. at least for now. >> that seeps ms to be the case. we don't know. we don't know how the russians will react. we don't flow hknow how assad w react. we don't know once again if the president is going to avail himself of a very easy tool which is to say when there are

people fleeing this murderous regime, we will welcome them into the united states. if he closes off all of those different options, yeah, you can send a lot more tomahawk missiles. your military guests have made clear that they can pinpoint whatever they want. they can hit whatever they want. sort of send message after message after message. that's not the same as changing the policy. >> jason miller, appreciate it. earl, maria. last night's missile strike in syria came six years into the syrian crisis. we will show you how we got to this point, the history of the crisis. the last american ambassador in syria and his encounters with assad shortly before the carnage began. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business...

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the pentagon investigating whether russia was involved in the chemical attack in syria that prompted president trump to launch an attack. tuesday's attack killed 86. president trump's decision to order a missile strike has put the crisis front and center on the world stage six years after the carnage began. here is randi kay with how we got here. >> reporter: they call it the cradle of the revolution. this is a small town about 50 miles from damascus. here is where graffiti containing anti-government slogans sparked the start of the syrian uprising. it was march 2011. more than a dozen children had been arrested for drawing that graffiti. protesters demanded the release

of the children and democratic reform. it quickly turned violent, with protests spreading and syrian security forces opening fire on crowds. >> translator: if i is bombs every day, 1,000 people die, this is our land and we will not leave it. >> reporter: protesters targeted the government of syrian president assad. >> translator: our enemies are working daily and scientifically in order to undermine the stability of syria. >> reporter: the regime's response was swift. a brutal crackdown, massive arrests and casualties. the president made promises that never came. >> the level of anger and passion here is absolutely palpable. we're a few miles from the central damascus. the crowd here -- this is a crowd here of perhaps several thousand people.

they have taken over this whole area. >> reporter: the government militia continues to torture and murder their own people, using tanks in surprise raids. >> translator: i'm not the only one whose life has been destroyed or whose husband is missing. everyone in this country has a missing person or a destroyed home or is displaced. we have been through so much. we have suffered and have come to hate life because of all these problems. >> reporter: e-mails obtained by cnn apparently from the assad private e-mail accounts show throughout it all, they continue to live a life of luxury. one day in february, 2012, the same day opposition fighters in homes reported more than 200 killed, mr. assad's wife was e-mailing a friend about shoes she liked that cost about $7,000 a pair. in another e-mail in which syria's first lady used the fake name alia, she contacted a london art dealer about art that cost as much as $16,500.

all of this during the senseless slaughter of syrian civilians. the u.n. estimates about 400,000 syrians have been killed since the war began in 2011. as of last december, nearly 5 million syrians have fled the country. only adding to the refugee crisis in the middle east. many in syria have lost hope. >> we are not scared. i'm not scared of the chemical weapon. defense to die with a bullet or chemical weapon. robert ford was the last american ambassador to syria. he left in 2012 when the u.s. closed the embassy. in 2014, he resigned when he found himself unable to defend and support the obama administration's policy on syria. you were the last u.s. am ba

ambassador to syria. you sat down with assad. as a person and as a leader, what were your impressions of him? >> he was charming, actually. his english is fluent because he studied medicine in britain. he is not stuffy. he is not stuck-up. but he does get angry when i raised human rights with him in that meeting you just showed the photo. he got quite angry at me. i think what most struck me is that several times during my conversations with him, he just out and out lied about things they were doing. and he knew that i knew he was lying. and he did it anyway. >> he lied repeatedly in interviews i have se. he lied about the nature of the demonstrations against him that began peacefully, that began in daraa because of the arrest of some children who had sprayed some graffiti. from the beginning, he has been cracking down on his own people

and labeling them terrorists and it did ultimately, obviously, isis grew and he released extremists from syrian prisons and kind of created the enemy that he was originally calling the peaceful protesters. >> president assad best understands the language of force. i don't think he is worried his credibility when he tells falsehoods, when he tells lies. to him it's all about balance of power. the balance of military forces on the ground, that's how he operates many that's how the syrian government operates. it's a police state. >> is it clear to you right now what the trump administration policy is to syria, whether it continues to be as it was in the last administration, that assad has go? because the secretary of state just last week seemed to indicate this is up to the syrian people and then clearly the administration, president trump has had a change of heart

to respond the way he did last night. >> well, the administration has been all over the map in the past week, as you mentioned, for a while they said assad is a reality and he is going to stay and we have to accept it. then earlier this week, secretary tillerson said there are efforts under way to gather a coalition to remove assad. so i don't -- i'm not sure i understand what the policy is. i think we will let it play out. i think in terms of this particular military strike -- it was a hard rike. but it's only been one strike. i think the purpose was to re-establish deterrents against the use of chemical weapons. and i think that is a worthy goal. >> a lot of people i think are asking, why would assad do this now? he basically -- he has had the backing of russia. he has iran. and he had an administration in the u.s. which seemed to be kind

of taking a hands off approach to syria until this chemical attack. obviously, he used kchemical weapons before. does it make sense he would risk doing it again? >> sure. he has been using chemical weapons continuously since 2013. this isn't new. there have been lots of reports about syrian use of chemical weapons. assad does this, sandersanderso intimidate civilians, to scare them from supporting opposition forces. in some case s he uses it to compensate for his shortfalls in manpower. not so different from the way germans used gas in world war i. >> what should happen next? >> what i would urge the trump administration to stick to a limited military goal of deterrence against the use of chemical weapons. also, it boosts u.s. credibility

with countries that mean us harm in other parts of the world. but i would caution the administration against plunging into deep military involvement in the syrian civil war unless they are prepared to draw up a very detailed plan to manage the politics and to manage the reconstruction and to marshal a big coalition and to marshal resources. otherwise, we're just going to get a repeat of iraq 2003. >> ambassador robert ford, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> my pleasure. up next, a picture from last night, does it tell the story of a white house shakeup about to happen? details on that ahead. lilly.

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details about how last night's missile strike unfolded. this photograph shows the president and jared kushner and others being briefed in a makeshift situation room. the figure closest to the president open his right, wilbur rice, secretary of state tillerson, steve bannon almost out of frame behind the president, practically under a lamp. maybe he close that seat. we don't know. what is clear is that tonight there's growing speculation that some in trump's inner circle may be heading for the door. sara murray has details. >> reporter: some of president trump's staffers are in tenuous situations. steve bannon is facing an uncertain future. has become increasingly isolated in the west wing, sources tell cnn. the president's concerns about his brain trust coming as trump took an unexpected leap on the foreign policy front this week.

in ordering a military strike in syria. >> we hope that as long as america stands for justice, then peace and harmony will in the end prevail. >> reporter: the move highlighting the fault lines emerging between the nationalist wing of the trump white house led by bannon and the more moderate crowd,nclung trump's son-in-law jared kushner. the president's decision to interest fein in se intervene appears that the america first group is losing sway. >> i will have that responsibility and carry it very proudly. >> reporter: it's a change in tone from trump on day one when he relied on bannon to craft a speech hammering home this message. >> from this day forward, it's going to be only america first. america first. >> reporter: trump has grown

frustrated with in fighting among top aides and his inability to make more progress on his domestic agenda. the relationship between bannon and kushner has grown especially strained, sources say. with bannon even lamenting to someone that he is locked in an unwinnable battle with trump's family. this week it was bannon who lost ground. trump removed him from the national security council's committee. this as kushner was brushed up on foreign policy. recently returning from a trip to iraq. the chief strategist isn't the only trump team member who could be on the ropes. trump heaped praise on his chief of staff. >> he is a star. i knew that a long time. >> reporter: now they are floating names of potential replacements for reince priebus. among them, gary kohn, trump economic advicer who has tied to jared and ivanka. on the list, kevin mccarthy. he is quietly built a relationship with trump and has experience on the hill. a source cautioned there have

been no serious talks about him taking the job. the president insisted he is shaking up washington. >> i think we have shaken them up. i think we had one of the most successful 13 weeks in the history of the presidency. >> reporter: coming off what is the most consequential moment of donald trump's young presidency, it's clear he is not entirely happy with his team. the big question is whether he is actually going to take action and do something about it. >> what's the white house saying about the reports? >> reporter: the official word from the white house is a lot of there is nothing to see here. i want to read you a portion of what white house spokeswoman said. this is a completely false story, driven by people who want to distract from the success taking place in this administration. obviously, many sources are telling us, things aren't entirely happy there. >> thanks very much. coming up at the top of the house, "unseen enemy" it's a

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terrorism. what's the latest? >> reporter: what we know is that a beer delivery truck was hi jacked by someone in a mask. it was then driven down sweden's main shopping street, careening through crowds and landed in a department store just behind me you can't see it but you have buses here which were literally abandoned in the frenzy. the whole area went into lockdown. all trains were canceled. you can see it's still cordoned off was well. several people jishd, several people killed. we know the police released this image of someone they were seeing. shortly after, they arrested someone that matched that image. we don't know anymore than that at this point. the worders have been close #ed, to there's some sort of ongoing threat potentially.

but the police are calming things down. >> the driver of the -- the person who stole the vehicle, the driver of it ran away from the scene, got away? >> well, yeah. there's lots of sort of anecdotal evidence like,000 but the police aren't saying anything. they're investigating something. we don't know exactly what it is. >> does this follow a pattern of vehicles being useds todayly weapons? >> reporter: yeah. i reported all those plays, anderson. what's frightening about this, it does fit into this pattern, a low-tech attacks. again, the same sort of eyewitness testimony. you've got people describing how a truck looked like it was out of control. they didn't realize it was terror until it was too late. it's a low-tech attack and it

works effectively time after time. that's frightening about it. this time it feels routine, the reporting of this. doesn't feel we're going to learn going to learn anything from it, other than we're going to live with it. >> i think there had been an incident in this very area a while ago, no? >> there was. it was a failed suicide attack. actually frightening. it could have caused huge amounts of casualties but it was failed. it was botched, so it has happened here. that was actually seen as the first sort of plot that nearly transpired. it was inspired by islamic extremism. lot of criticism in this country that government hasn't been doing enough. the prime minister saying he'sing a doing what he can. >> thanks. up next, ra prove of the film "unseen enemy." how health experts are on the front lines are trying to prevent it.

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bird flu or any number of deadly diseases could cause problems. doctors are trying to prevent an outbreak. >> over the last three decades there have been about 30 newly emerging diseases that have the potential to be pan democratics. if we do nothing, it's not a matter of if there will be a global pandemic. it's just a matter of when and which virus and how bad. >> the world changes around us at increasing speed. we cause a hot of that change. migrating to cities, stripping the earth of its resources and altaring prime evil jungle. >> we are seeing whole entire ecologies, that which you can see with your eye and that which you can only see with a mooirk scope, sun one system after another completely reshaped.

in every case, this afords opportunities for viruss and bacteria to seek out new homes, cause new ha ok, including disease for human beings. >> starting just in a moment. thanks for watching "360. "unseen enemy" starts right now. . there was a young doctor in africa when aids hit. i saw how it could devastate populations. i also saw how first responders, doctors, nurses and health care workers make the difference. infectious diseases are a global threat. the unseen enemy is a compelling, urgent film that urges the important conversation about what we can all do to protect our families from these diseases.

>> hello, good morning. >> it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. let's start. >> good morning. >> i think -- >> the centers for disease control today issued a health warning following a worldwide outbreak of a mysticous form of few monia. >> people have come down with hars. [ speaking foreign language ] . >> the world health organization has declared a swine flu pandemic. >> spread of the h 1 n 1 swine flu. >> it cannot be contained. >> i think we can contain spread -- >> the pan democratics must be

taken seriously. >> a big tbreak of ay ebola virus has broken out. >> in the african country of againy has spread. >> people know nothing. there's no cure. >> they don't have the resources -- >> governments rrnd around the world are calling for new measures. >> another case of bird flu. >> it's critical that they control this. >> you have to respond to the challenge. >> three latest victims of the new respiratory virus calls mers has come from middle eastern countries. they believe it originated in bats or camel. >> rapid kidney failure. >> as the zika virus continues to threaten people across the

globe -- >> a link to bird flu. >> transmitted by mosquitoes. >> proper mosquitoes could 2r7 the virus. >> i believe there's such a thing as being too late. >> there's a concern -- [ speaking foreign language ]. >> at home. you can almost hear the biological chatter. >> aids, zika virus. >> contagious -- >> just when technology and science was supposed to make us safer, we suddenly seem more vulnerable to outbreaks. >> whether we like it or not,

our world is globalizing ever more. that's not only true for markets and production, but it's also true for behaviors, for diseases. so we're more vulnerable because of our very wemobility and we'rg in crowded cities. that's fantastic from the per suspective of a virus because in no time, it can infect hundreds of thousands of people. >> there have been about 30 newly emerged diseases that have the potential to become pan democratics. if we do nothing, it's not a matter of if there will be a global pandemic. it's just a matter of when and which virus and how bad. >> the world changes around us at increasing speed. we caused a lot of that change. migrating to cities, stripping

the earth of its resources and altaring prime evil jungle. >> we are seeing whole entire ecologies, that which you can see with your eye and that which you can see only with a microscope. >> one system after another completely reshaped. >> is there a sense -- >> in every case this aforpds opportunities for viruss and bacteria to seek out new homes, cause new havoc, including disease for human beings. >> when con tajon happens, life altars in an instant. we don't feel safe. we lose trust. >> it spreads very quickly when you have an infectious disease outbreak. people know what's happening in another part of the world so much more quickly, so much more vividly than ever before, so the con tajon of fear moves faster

than the con day june of the disease itself and the fabric of society starts to detheater. >> there's something that destroys the soul of a community that happens when an epidemic is out of control. it's not just the large number of casualties and the deaths, which are itself unthinkable, but it's what it does to the social fabric of a community, our nation. >> the war lasted for 14 years.

i was quite little but i still remember vividly everything i saw. sometimes in a place where it is dark, you can see the bullets flying, like bolts of lightning across the sky. a fire will bundle all of us and we hear the opposite direction. huh? you know the bullets are coming this way because you hear the sound coming. huh? and you see the soldiers going that way to go and fight it, so you know you have to go the other way. a look at ebola. how you going to protect yourself? you have an enemy you cannot

hide from. you cannot run from ebola. where are you going to go? who are you going to run to? i got information yesterday that the ebola virus is here. >> ebola is transmitted through bodily fluids, sew liva, blood, u ryan, feces. >> ebola first surfaced in west afternoon ka in a rural community. but this ebola outbreak didn't say in the countryside. the virus quickly found its way to the region's largest cities

and health systems that were completely unprepared. >> i graduated from nurse school two years ago. the reason why i'm here is quite different because i was the only one available. i'm a general practitioner and i got one day training to get prepared for this. we started our mission. the following morning there were ambulances liepd up at our gates and we were not prepared.

before we even knew it, we already were overwhelmed with so many patients. >> have a nice visit. i will take one or two. >> i got that impression i was in haiti, because it was a makeshift structure. the patients are vomiting, bleeding and having diarrhea on the floor and two or three patients have already died, bodies were still there. in three days time, the entire unit was full. meanwhile, there was still patients, and they are begging every time. every time you go to the gate they are begging to come in. we have 35 beds and we have one

patients only one. that means patients lie on the floor. you don't have beds but you facing a group of people who are dying. you know they're dying. you see they're very sick. they are so weak. what if they go home? what if a taxicab these patients are going to go home to die. every one of the taxicabs are infected. and what about the snoem the communities the people go into. maybe we should just open the gate and let them come in and lie on the more in to die. so we just open the gate and just let them in, sometimes 20 persons. and they will we will be to three, four, five hours, trying

to give them fluids and other anti-by otherics. and then it never ends. as you are walking out a new patient is walking in. and then when you go home and come back the following morning. there are seven, eight dead for one night. . >> i think we all underestimated. i know that one case of ebola is an emergency. every new case can give rise to more cases. so it's really act now or pay

later. >> right now, the world health organization and other doctors are saying it is out of control in this area of west africa. it's the worst outbreak ever they've recorded in this part of the world. >> it's unprecedented for several reasons, one, it's the first in west africa. second, it's the first time that -- thirdly, it's first time we have outbreaks in capitol city. >> this could sfloed a megacrisis. >> i think so. >> i really thought how can this epidemic be controlled in the usual way whether there are so many outbreaks different places? the three countries in west africa that are affected by the ebola outbreak have some of the worst health indicators in the world. there are not enough doctors. there are not enough nurses. it is a system that is understaffed, underfunded, and

where the infrastructure is very, very old. >> let's go back to 1976 when you were a younger man and you actually co-discovered this virus. it was in zaire. >> yes. >> now the democratic republic of the kongso. how -- >> and they said it was a mystic out epidemic, it was very lethal, high mohr tality. there were nuns who had died. a small group would go to the mission where the epidemic had started, apparently. they asked for volunteers and i think i was about the first one to raise my hand. although i had absolutely zero experience in doing this. [ speaking foreign language ] >> our mission was to -- one, to put in place some basic measures to contain it and using

quarantine. that's what we thought, and, two, to find out how is this transmitted. because that's the key to stop epidemi epidemics, to know exactly what the risk is, how is it transmitted. it's really detective work. . so we tested whole villages, talked to the population, and then have a very primitive questi question aaron, how old, where have they been and what we found is that there were very few survivors and that the case fatality rate was over 90%.

nearly all new viruss come from animals. here human pry mates. during the outbreak we started collecting samples from all kinds of animals. i even took bloods in pigs because a number of pigs decide at the beginning of the epidemic, so we said you never know, but we didn't find any trace of ebola. my boss at the time had always told me, watch out for the bats. and it became a bit of a joke, but the old man was right, because the only reservoir that we think were ebola is hiding are some kind of fruit eating bats. >> when i was a child i really

liked to read all these science fictions. i reallyize science really fantastic. y you can find something new. this is why i'm working on if emerging or reemerging bacteria and viruss. i think from ebola, when you put all the data together, transmission, rules or cycle, it's clear. so definitely, it's from bats. and then you have intermediate host. it could be some mammals, either -- and then i could also be directed from bats to humans. you can see. ebola, sars and mers are all from bats, so they're a very serious problem.

>> if we look around the world, you can see that bat populations are being severely stressed by climate change. some of them because they live in the upper tiers of rainforests and feed on wild fruit, but the upper tiers of rainforests are getting the biggest impact of the heat increase and increase of heat radiation. add to that that humans are encroaching into the forests. bats are shy reaches. they too not seek them out. we see more and more bat populations starving and coming into human habitation areas to feed on our agricultural production. in the process, they're passing their virus on to other animals and to humans.

we are imposing changes in the microbial world willy-nilly, thoughtlessly and we do so at our peril. >> we have dramaticcally increased our contact with animals in a variety of ways. through deforestation, industrialization of agriculture, and vastly increased consumption of animals. hiv spread out of africa from a few murngies and chimpanzees to affect millions of people on every continent. sars jumped from a bat to a sieve it cat to a person to countries in a matter of a few weeks. in the 21st century, 75% of all new infectious diseases have come from animals.

sometimes directly. in other cases through intermediaries like mosquitos. j if anyone had sat down and done a fantasy hit parade of emerging diseases that might come to the americas from africa or from asia, zika would never even have been on the list. zika virus originated in africa and had never been off the african continent until it started making its way across asia and south pacific, ending up in french polynesia and, yap. yap is a small place that most people have never heard of but when zika hit it, 70% of the population got infected. that was really quite startling. if anybody had been paying attention. >> but they weren't. zika jumped from the south pacific to brazil?

2013, two years before it was identified there. the timeline corresponds to an increase in travel between the south pacific and brazil. including visitors who attended a preworld cup soccer tournament, the confederation cup. >> scoooore! >> someone was carrying the zika virus and some individual got bitten and absorbed the virus. that's the beginning of the saga. and then undoubtedly, the el nino weather event provided the necessary ingredients, rainfall and drought that fundamentally changed the conditions on the ground andallowed for the spread of this virus.

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[ speaking foreign language ] >> in 2015, the zika virus suddenly spread across brazil, primarily through the bite of one type of mosquito. the medical establishment only began to comprehend zika's danger as the number of babies born with the defect micro self-ly started to dramatically increase.

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[ speaking foreign language ] . since the alarm went sounding around the world from be still, we have seen almost every day another revelation about this virus. what we now know is that this is a slow dangerous virus. we grossly underestimated it. it is malaria in that it is transmitted by mosquitos and can

cause enormous outbreaks. it is hiv in that it is sexually transmitted and it is worst than all the above as we come to understand what this virus actually lives on. where does the virus go in a pregnant woman? it goes into this tiny forming creep, the fightous and it feeds on it and reineffects back into the mother's bloodstream over and over again. and what is it feeding on in that fetus? baby brain cells. and so every single part of the brain of that developing child is damaged. >> the zika virus affects its victims in a completely different way from the ebola virus. what they share in common is how fast they can move. randomly attacking some, while sparing others. some epidemics grab our attention while others, in spite of the larger number of victims,

remason more hidden. >> it's so close. we still get. welcome. >> owatonna, minnesota. it's a beautiful town. to me, it's like mayberry, rfd, opie tailor made's town. the chief brought a sick princess here because of healing waters. >> when we moved here it just felt like home. i think we got lucky.

the good lord just gave us two good kids. sarah was always the princess. shannon was opposite. she was a tomboy. she loved skate boarding. and she loved video games. >> shannon, she was a complete surprise. >> shannon. >> sarah was almost 16 and i was 40. she was a joy right from the get-go, she was a joy for everybody. >> we were a tight family. >> first time out by herself. oh, my gosh! >> when she got her permit, she was so tickled. >> she goes by herself. >> i was so proud of her. >> oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh. somebody's driving. that a girl.

oops. oh, hi. >> she was in her senior year of high school, she came home wednesday night, said i think i got the flu at school. that was wednesday. >> and thursday she didn't seem to be, you know, baseline for being sick. but she wasn't getting better. and that's when terry and i agreed we've got to take her. >> when i took her that sunday to go to the hospital. we waited two hours. it was that packed. that's when i knew there was a big epidemic of flu going on. she's sitting next to me, she's got her head on me. i took a selfie, scent it to her mom, said we're still waiting. >> the doctor said it was the flu, it had to run its course. they gave her some cough medicine just for comfort.

terry went and got it. while i got her back into bed. [ texting sounds ] 6 . >> it's about 5:00 in the morning. i was sitting in the living room and i heard her moving around upstairs. i thought, wow, she's getting out of bed. i got 7-and i went to the coffee maker and i saw my peripheral that she got up and went to the bathroom. she tapped on the shower curtain and i said you want to take a shower and she nodded yes. i said ok. i was filling the water and it got so full. she laid back and her knees kept buckling. she kept pushing on the end of

the tub to keep herself from sliding under it. then i saw her eyes and -- [ sighs ] i woke terry up. >> said she's not breathing and i come running down and i still remember her on the floor, mom giving her cpr. >> i'd never had to do that before and it's not like they teach you in class. >> all i could do is dial 911. [ telephone ringing ] >> 911. what's going on there no. >> my daughter's 17 years old. >> she's not breathing! >> she's not breathing. >> not breathing? >> stay on the line with me.

hold on. >> please! oh, lord. come on in. she's right in there. go ahead. >> i just remember a pair of blue pants that kneeled down on the other side of her and he told me they'd take over and i stepped away. >> even when they said we're flying her to rochester, i waved at the helicopter, thinking everything's fine. i had no clue. [ machines beeping ] [ steady tone ] >> when they said she didn't make it and i said i want to see

her. they said you'd never recognize her. the flu killed her organs long before she actually died. i still think she ought to be coming home. >> the biggest pain in the world as a parent is losing their child. this is the most unnatural thing to happen to a human being, and you stand next to it and you think my goodness, i am there to prevent this from happening and sometimes i cannot. and sometimes i don't know why i cannot. >> the question of how and why one particular person may die

from enflew end z influenza is dollar question that we need to tackle. >> it is surprising how much we need to learn about flu, a disease that causes worldwide epidemics every year. >> she had a little raspiness in her chest. >> it came back positive. i remember saying ok. it's no big deal. it's just the flu. >> it hospitalized three to five million. >> within 24 hours she was sbe baited. >> killing at least 200,000 every year. >> we went in as they were coding her. >> my baby girl scarlett pronounced dead. >> the majority of the adult influenza have something called a risk factor. they have a weak immune system

or diabetes or a pregnant woman having a risk for both themselves as well as the child. we know these factors. but this is a virus that can mess up your body to degree that even the most healthy young unhappy playful person is taken away from this planet in a couple of days. >> every year, we struggle to fight seasonal flu. but what experts are really afraid of is a new strain of flu. one that the human population hasn't been exposed to before. one that almost no one will have any immunity against. >> i think you really need a

dedication to understand things, to solve things, to make it work, because otherwise, i'm afraid that at 5:00 in the afternoon, i would think, well, now, i've done enough for humankind, i should go home and eat something or sleep. but only when you are, i think, when you really want to know, when you're so fascinated by the virus or by a problem, only then you just forget about everything and you just continue. >> the goal is we want to make a vaccine to prevent hiv, to prevent hiv infection, to prevent aids. we have people in u.s. and people in africa and asia also

cooperating with us. hundreds and hundreds. hundreds of people. sometimes i am afraid. things can go faster. infectious diseases, they take the plane, they are everywhere. you really want to surprise, yeah, create surprise so that it cannot be transmitted anymore. we need to be more smart than nature to beat it. >> i definitely would like a better world. and i want try to do something useful for it. so that's -- i think it's also impacted by having kids, so more and more that's something you want to give them something better at the end of the day.

>> when we think about the threat of a disease spreading around the world as a pandemic threat, obviously airborne infections are at the very top. things like sars and flu are something that we know is difficult to control because of the way it spreads through aerosols. most people become infectious with the flu before they even have symptoms. anybody can travel clearly across the world with an infectious disease incubating in them without them even knowing that they're sick yet. >> in 2009, a new flu emerged, h 1 n 1. also known as swine flu. we now know it first appeared in the u.s. in the pig industry, initially infecting people at

state and county fairs. in a little over a year, swine flu infected around 1.3 billion people. it was the most common shared experience on earth. flu poses a great pandemic threat because it has the kpasz to be very deadly. >> what we're most worried about right now is this bird flu that we know is highly pathogenic. >> kills between 50 and 60% of the people it ineffects. >> currently, this deadly new bird flu doesn't spread easily between people.

but it is spreading rapidly among wild birds and poultry. experts are afraid this could be a pandemic threat. >> it's a live poultry market, so the bririrds are alive. they're sold alive because people value the fact that it's very fresh meat. so you buy your chicken or your duck alive and then it is killed and cleaned, emptied, of course. eviscerated. the viscera go into some of these buckets here and then the birds are put in hot water and then put in these drums where these plastic tubings help get rid of the feathers.

and then when the birds have been defeathered, eviscerated and cleaned, they're cut up and given back to the person who bought it. the issue here is that the water is the same to clean all the ducks and chickens. the other issue is that these people are wading in viscera, feathers and the water that seshs to clean them. so there's really a lot -- a lot of virus here. >> in 2011 when the pasteur institute started monitoring the wash water, 18% of the water samples were positive for h 5 n 1. four years later, 66% of samples were positive. >> we know that bird flu is very, very deadly. and we know swine flu spreads very quickly. what we worry about is that if

those two reabsorb and we could have a new strain that could spread as quickly as the swine flu did but have the mohr tality rate of the bird flu. that's the big fear. that we've now literally created the petri dish that we were worried about and both viruss are sitting in there at the same time. >> pan democratics are one of the biggest risks we face. >> this is an yirk of human lives. it should be thought of in the same way that we think of terrorism, protection against national disasters against national defense. this is a human security issue and it is also an economic security issue. >> the ute break of sars could trigger a global downturn. >> fear of the sars virus has caused serious financial damage to businesses, cities, even

entire countries. >> at the height of sars, nobody was going to restaurants. people didn't want to go shopping. at one point, retail sales were down by 50% and travel to asia was down. estimates of the impact of sars have been an economic impact of 40 billion or so. if a global pandemic took place, you're looking at an economic impact measured in the trillions of dollars, not 10s or hundreds of billions. it has such a big impact on business and life. >> you hope the world has the capacity to see an outbreak, mobilize forces, and contain it. right? unfortunately, we rarely do that. especially if the outbreak occurs in a poor country.

>> well, here we are in liberia. that's sierra leone and there's the border crossing. do you see security, do you see military? do you see anyone who would stop someone coming across this border? not only does it spread across the borders of the original country as occurred with ebola in west africa, but it crosses seas. it crosses continents and that constitutes a pandemic. endemic is your worst-case scenario. so you fail to control the outbreak, you fail to control the epidemic and you fail to control the pandemic, and now that microbe is a permanent feature in the biological landscape that humans are living in. the worst example of that is hiv. we started off with tiny

outbreaks in a handful of places and the world responded completely incorrectly. it became pandemic and now endemic, so we have 37 million people living infected with hiv and there is no country on the planet without this virus. >> before the devastation of aids, there was smallpox. smallpox killed 500 million people in the 20th century alone. more than all the wars in that century combined. whenever an infectious disease truly catches hold, it forces health workers to make impossible choices about the public's freedom and rights. >> i was the youngest person in the smallpox team and i was certainly the only person in the history of the united nations

recruited from the ali backa ashram. >> we had eradicated smallpox. utsds this big stayed in the middle of india. we were about to do our victory dance and suddenly across the border, we started getting new outbreaks. they all came from one place, a place called tatanagar. the first place we went was to the rail station. it was the scene from the worst nightmare you'd had in your life. there were dozens of people stretched out on the tracks, on the cement dead from smallpox. it smelled of death. the tatanagar was the home of the tatar iron and steel company. so i went to the company's house.

it was almost midnight when i got there. i said i need jeeps, i need managers, i need doctors, i need vaccine. the next day i had a hundred jeeps. we set up training programs and used maps to develop strategy and took the hundred jeeps and built our little army. we were doing great. we found 2,000 cases of smallpox. we were stopping the disease in tatanagar but still as we're vaccinating everybody, the trains were carrying people away. we were still exporting the virus. we quarantined the city of 600,000 people. nobody could leave the city unless they were vaks nated. we eliminated smallpox in that entire area around tatanagar in less than six months, but it

kept coming back. we traced it to a tribal group called the ho tribe. so i went and visited the members of that tribe and i said, well, you've got to take smallpox vaccine. you've got to stop this transmission. he said i won't take it. i do whatever god's will is if i'm to get smallpox, i'll get it. after a while, more cases kept coming out from the ho community and we all agreed that we were going to have so forcibly vaccinate these ho tribesmen. the middle of the night, we went out into the villages into the jungle and we surrounded them and pulled them out of their houses and revaccinated them. and after we had broken into

their house, pulled them out of bed, forcibly vaccinated them, this dignified tribal elder looked at me and reached over to the vine and there was one fruit, a cucumber, a kind of gourde. he pulled it off and he cut it and he put it on a leaf and he offered it to us to eat. he said, i don't like what you did. i think you're wrong. but that's over now. now i see that you are a guest in my house. and the only thing i have to offer is this cucumber. and so you ask yourself, were we right? we did a lot of things that in their individual isolation, if i put the harshest light of truth on it right now, i would be

begging to find an alternative way to do it. and i asked myself, did i exaggerate the importance of what i did? did i place myself above some kind of moral compass? did i quit too early trying to find a way

there we are, ok. hi. >> rumors have been around since man existed but i think now what's changed with social media and the internet is the global spread and the speed. i mean, look at twitter.

you need 140 characters or something and that's all you need to spread some of the rumors and per sessions that we're certainly tracking. and one of the things we found is that rumors thrive in times of uncertainty. they thrive in times where people need an answer, are eager for an answer. skbl the old model of how you respond to an infectious disease outbreak is you issue some sort of firm warning to the public and tell them what they should and shouldn't do. that doesn't work anymore because people are responding to rumors on twitter or facebook and they want to engage and challenge and have their own opinions about what's going on.

>> ok. go for

>> there are 84 flights a week leaving this country. >> the first time the boebl as of today, one case came from

liberia, one. there may be more, but right now, one. >> and in response to that, they say, let's close the borders, nobody from africa will be allowed in. they didn't even know where west or east of south africa. nobody from africa should be allowed in. and close our airports. that's a combination of ignorance and arrogance that could -- >> please be advised that a health care worker that lives in your area has tested positive for the ebola virus. >> a patient in new york city has tested positive for ebola. >> 12 hours before he detected his fever, he was in an uber car, he was on the a train, he was in a restaurant as no

quarantine was required. late this afternoon the governors of new york and new jersey decided to change that. after returning from treating ebola patients in sierra leon, sandra hitchcock was quarantined. >> we have the authority to do it, we're doing it. >> it was pretty clear that the united states epidemic was overwhelmingly an epidemic of fear. we got a practice run on how americans will respond. and, boy, we got an f.

>> we are spending a lot of time with a community. community leaders, would assess how to better handle this ebola epidemic. >> is this a wakeup call for you also the international community to start looking at all the potential viruses that may come to harm us as vulnerable as we are, so that we start putting things in place to prevent us from getting these types of diseases? >> to be honest, in this 38 years, we have collectively failed, and every time there's a big epidemic, we put in place mechanisms to prevent that and it doesn't happen. so we really need to fight this ebola this time and there are better systems in place.

>> in the fall of 2014, significant aid and manpower finally started arriving in the region. in liberia, there were contingents from france, china, cuba, germany, sweden and the united states. >> this is an extrapolation. >> exactly. >> it was chaotic and coordination was often difficult. but makeshift etus were finally replaced with purpose-built field hospitals. >> i communicated with the ministry that jfk should close down. so