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group is headed to north korea. >> to north korea but also china on notice. >> he won't stop here. if he need to do more, he will do more. >> they don't want to have to do more if they don't have but want to make it chelear to the assad regime they don't have to. >> thank you. we love trump. we do, we do. gorsuch was confirmed.
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the media is saying nice things and no one is talking about russia. well, what a difference 59 tomahawk missiles can make! ♪ good morning to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. i'm alison kosik. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> a u.s. navy strike group is already on its way to the korean peninsula because of growing concern over north korea's missile tests. >> plus, russia is slamming u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley calling her comments on syria sabotage after she said, quote, there is no way to find political solution with the assad at the head of the regime. all of this as secretary of state rex tillerson gets ready to meet russian foreign minister
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in lavrov earlier this week. breaking news out of egypt. at least 21 people are dead after a bombing at a church there. >> 50 were injured north of cairo. you're looking at here the first video, the aftermath from inside the church when the explosion happened. we want to warn you, this may be difficult to watch. ♪ >> there you're watching video of the ceremony for palm sunday services and then, obviously, went to bars in black when the blast happened. security officers are digging through the debris right now. it may be a little difficult to make out when you're seeing here but concrete, wood, paper, it's
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all part of what is left behind after the bombing. cnn senior international correspondent ben wedeman is live near the turkish/syrian border. what are you learning? >> we are learning this st. george church was packed with more than 2,000 worshipers when a bomb went off according to some reports in the very front row of the church. so far, the death toll 21. more than 50 injured according to egyptian state television. however, it's expected that that death toll will rise. of course, this is not the first such attack on christians back in december. there was an attack on a cathedral in cairo left more than 25 people dead p.m. this past february, a series of attacks on christians around the northern sinai which basically forced many of them, dozens of
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families to flee to the nile delta as a result. now, there has been rising tension between the christian community and muslims within the country, itself. and it's widely believed that the security services in egypt simply have failed to protect the christian minority in egypt which makes up almost 10% of the population. alison? >> to your point there, the christian community there in egypt really has been a target of islamic extremists and the frustration there has been that security just hasn't, you know, certainly measured up to what it needs to be, knowing that that community is really a target. >> reporter: yes. but having seen egyptian security in action, oftentimes, i can tell you that the people who are put in charge of
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protecting christian churches, community centers, and others, are poorly paid, poorly trained, poorly equipped, poorly motivated, and poorly led. by and large, it doesn't appear that protecting the christians of egypt is a top priority of the government of who president trump said is doing such a fantastic job. when he came to power in 2013 many saw him as a savior from the muslim brotherhood which was running the country up until then but increasingly as there is attack after attack, their faith has faded. >> on such a holy day. ben wedeman reporting live, thank you so much. >> more on that coming up. the "uss carl vincent strike
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group is headed to the western pacific. we have our reporter in that area and, will, the reaction, this comment now from a north korean official, what are we hearing? >> reporter: i was meeting with the north korean government officials when the news came in that ship is heading back toward the peninsula. not out of the ordinary. the strike group was here off the peninsula a matter of weeks ago conducting military joined exercises with the u.s. the north korean official said they believe this is yet another example of a provocative act by the trump administration that will embolden this country to further accelerate. not tone back. but accelerate the development of their nuclear weapons and the missiles that could potentially deliver warheads to the mainland u.s. i want to read you what the high ranking official said. a comment regarding the missile strike in syria said, the quote
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the previous u.s. administrations have been attacking those countries who with haven't gotten nuclear weapons and the trump administration is no different than the previous u.s. governments in pinpointing those nonnuclear states. north korea is looking at syria and the countries like iraq and libya that the u.s. invaded and toppled those regimes. they feel that a workable int intercontinent intercontinent intercontinental ballistic warhead will protect them. >> i want to read another segment from this statement we got -- or rather a comment from north korean official. they write here in some quarters the military attack are a warning shot against the ddprk. is that the reality here, colonel? >> i think so, victor. i think what they are looking at from the north korean standpoint is they believe in
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self-reliance, the term they use as will riply known is ducha. they see that self-reliance a necessity of the north korean state. they can see the only way forward for them is depend only on their own resources. that is not completely realistic because there are a lot of things that a country like north korea has to depend on from the outside world. but nonetheless they see this as a way forward and they believe that they have to maintain their weapon systems and improve their weapon systems in order to have a place in the world. >> colonel, is this sending of the "uss carl vincent, the strike group, an expected conventional response to what we have been seeing out of north korea, or is this a ratchet be up of the tensions there.
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>> i see it at ratcheting up the tensions a bit. the carrier strike group from the "uss carl vincent" was not originally scheduled to go back into the waters of the western pacific and the waters near the korean peninsula. i think the trump administration is sending a message, not only to north korea, but also to china, that they are saying this is a time when you cannot and you should not be testing your missiles or your nuclear devices or anything else that could up-end the stability of the korean peninsula and the "carl vincent" is the symbol of american power projection in this case. >> will, you know beijing as well as pyongyang. what is the reaction they are seeing in china to this sending of the "uss carl vincent" after just a few days ago when president xi jinping was with president trump and the strike there in syria?
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>> reporter: it's interesting. publicly chinese officials gave a very broad statement about a good meeting with president trump and did not mention north korea all after the meeting with xi jinping in florida. it shows the two side far apart how they feel north korea should be dealt with. the "uss wants sanction and possibly military action and strike group is moving toward the peninsula. the north korean officials we are speaking with think no coinedence that president trump ordered this missile strike while having dinner with mar-a-lago with president xi jinping. they believe it was a warning not only to him that he need to do something about north korea, but also a threat to the north koreans as well. they told me flat out, even if china enforces sanctions against this country their nuclear program and missile program are the last things they are prepared to cut and their state media has told them if they have
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to go without electricity or without food that is what it will take to preserve their country and protect them from american bombs raining down on pyongyang and other areas in north korea. people on the street tell you they believe that. this is a one-party state with one person who has absolute power and that is kim jong-un so, publicly, people are going to say that. >> will and colonel, thank you both. one time event or part of a broader strategy. that is the question facing the trump administration after it launched a military strike on syria in response to a chemical weapons attack that left more than 80 dead. the president in a letter to house speaker paul ryan saying he acted in the united states' national security interest. but does that interest go beyond chemical attacks? ryan noble has more from washington. >> reporter: there are mixed messages coming from the white house about what is next when it comes to the crisis in syria.
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the administration and close allies insistent this is a onetime attack designed to be a specific response to barber bashar al assad's attack against his people but in a taping of this week's "state of the union," jake tapper sat down with nikki haley. she told tapper that what happens next is dependent on how others react. >> he won't stop here. if he needs to do more, he will do more. so really now what happens depend on how everyone respond to what happened in syria and make sure that we start moving towards a political solution and find peace in that area. >> reporter: a u.s. official confirmed on saturday that a u.s. navy strike group is moving toward the western pacific ocean in the region of the korean peninsula. this as concerns about instability in north korea only grow.
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these major issues come at a time as the president is trying to tamp down some internal strife. amidst differences between steve bannon and jared kushner. the president told them, according to an official, quote, we got to work this out, cut it out. they had a meeting along with e reince priebus on friday. no one's job is in current jeopardy but the president made it clear he wanted tempers cooled. you heard in his piece, u.s. ambassador nikki haley says when it comes to syria, president trump may not be done. she spoke with cnn's jake tapper about the administration's views on syrian president. >> what we are trying to do is,
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obviously, defeat isis. secondly, we don't see a peaceful syria with assad in there. third, get the iran influence out. finally, move towards a political solution because at the end of the day, this is a complicated situation. there are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen. but we know that it is not going to be -- there is not any sort of option where political solution is going to happen with assad at the head of the regime. >> haley's comments prompted a blistering response from russia where one official called the remarks, quote, direct sabotage of the international community's efforts to start a process of political negotiations between the authorities and the opposition. you can watch more of jake tapper's interview, the full interview with u.s. ambassador nikki haley this morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern on cnn. some top british officials are lending their support to the u.s. actions in syria. now one of them, the defense secretary, says that last week's chemical attack is russia's fault. if vladimir putin needs to step
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up and stop bashar al assad. we will break down the comments next. political satire political baldwin back on "snl" and slamming the president and taking out fox news in the process. >> i even went as far as saying, quote, bill o'reilly did nothing wrong. >> that's good. >> that's based upon -- >> a hunch. just a hunch. t dust and allerges get between you and life's beautiful moments. flonase allergy relief delivers more complete relief. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause all your symptoms, including nasal congestion and itchy, watery eyes. flonase is an allergy nasal spray that works even beyond the nose. so you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. flonase. 6>1 changes everything.
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putin needs to enforce commitments and assad's arsenal for good and get fully engaged with the u.n. peace keeping process. julia staffy is joining us and nick paton-walsh is also joining us. what is the latest, nick? >> at this point, we are hearing of yet more civilian deaths. in a province which was the target of those chemical weapos attacks. bear in mind the last 48 hours a number of air strikes have gone from syrian regime jets and perhaps with russian support over the skies of that rebel-controlled area. a town hit by the chemical weapons hit the last 48 hours and causing four deaths but also in another place, we are learning of 16 civilian deaths according to the first responders there known as the white helmets. this is a message the chemical
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weapons attacks and the response from the trump administration has not changed business as normal. the kind of attacks, daily currency of this war. we are talking about them here because of the trump response, not frankly because it's anything new so bear that in mind when we discuss this. all size certainly on the broader geo political situation here. does rex tillerson's visit to moscow at some point in the days ahead herald a new bid in gho y diplomacy? it hasn't worked to step assad to step aside. a new element here launched tomahawk missiles but perhaps some too wondering whether or not this is simply benefited the syrian regime by making it very tough for russia to distance themselves and they are now forced basically, given the pride factor in vladimir putin to staying alongside assad for the months ahead. back to you. >> with nick saying that these missile strikes on friday by
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president trump, by the administration, by the u.s. haven't changed the calculation militarily in syria, and if they were really meant just to give a warning shot to bashar al assad, did the warning work, knowing that air strike from syria have been sent again right in the area where that chemical attack was? >> i think they were meant to send a signal. the question is what kind of signal is it? if it's just a onetime strike and if, you know, russian media is covering the fact that planes are still taking off from this air strip, that air strikes are continuing. and if you have rex tillerson, after his first phone call with foreign minister after these strikes saying that we are not pushing for assad to come out to leave the presidency, we are still focusing mostly on isis, and once we figure out how to deal with isis, then we can talk
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about assad. so you have washington clearly telegraphing to moscow that even their diplomatic calculus really hasn't changed. now the dust has settled, it's not really clear what the attack meant to symbolize, other than we can. >> okay. i want you to both listen to nikki haley about what the priorities are for the u.s. listen to this. >> is regime change in syria now the official policy of the united states? >> so there is multiple priorities. it's getting assad out is not the only priority. so what we are trying to do is, obviously, defeat isis. secondly, we don't see a peaceful syria with assad in there. thirdly, get the iran influence out. and then, finally, move toward a political solution because at the end of the day, this is a implicated situation. there are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen, but we know that it is not going to be -- there's not any sort of option where a
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political solution is going to happen with assad at the led of the regime. >> nick, let me ask you this, because you've reported in this region for a very long time. there is no easy solution, is there? and do you nikki haley is being deliberately vague in answering whether or not taking assad out of power is the priority for the u.s.? >> reporter: i have to say i find it all very bizarre we are hearing this sort of, i might say, sea change in the trump administration's policy from someone at the level of the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. it does feel a bit like policy here is being made up slightly on the hoof. none of these ideas is anything new, you know? they have been trying, over years, the obama administration, to create some sort of political process which would cause assad to step aside. that was the geneva process and now phase five and assad is still in pauower. the document, itself, was signed
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on by the russians did at the very beginning suggest a transition was required and left it vague what would happen to assad but it was clear in the minds of western countries he would step aside. this political process is ongoing and failing miserably for years and led to the rise of isis because so many of the franchise sunni muslim majority in syria felt they didn't have anyone looking out for them because the rebels kept losing and why isis found support on the ground there. this political process hasn't really had american military teeth behind it so maybe you might see some extra change but the 59 tomahawks have been brushed off by moscow and two important things to realize here as well. yes, the trump white house i think is slowly groping with the political reality it need a syria policy but doesn't know what it is yet. on the russian side, too, perhaps mounting pressure on vladimir putin who is facing a potential re-election battle and probably not a tough one but doesn't want caught in a messy
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war in syria that a lot of russians don't understand. not leave change in the likelihood of assad staying in power for a while. >> speaking of vladimir putin, we have rex tillerson visiting with his counterpart and i'm hearing putin as well this week. do you think there is going to be any blame from the u.s. on russia for this chemical attack as we are seeing from the uk defense secretary blaming russia for that attack? >> i think you will see some of it, but i doubt that secretary tillerson is going to push hard on that line, especially when he is sitting down with his old friend vladimir putin. i think you'll see some posturing from the russian side saying he violated syria's territorial sovereignty and national sovereignty and violated international law. nick is right. a lot of what we are hearing from the u.s. side we heard for years from the obama
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administration. so hearing nikki haley, the trump's administration ambassador to the u.n., she said what basically the obama administration has been saying for the last few years of his presidency. and honestly, i don't know how much it matters because i don't think she is the one deciding the policy on syria. it seems like nick said to be made up on the fly. and we will see. i think the 59 missiles didn't do all that much. i think it's up the ante a little bit in terms of rhetoric and posturing. but the reality on the ground still remains that russia is much more committed to this fight. the russian public is actually quite supportive of the fight in syria, especially given the wave of terror attacks domestically in russia which have been very much amplified by kremlin tv. and it has been connected to the fight in syria saying, look, we are fighting these guys in syria before they come, before they come to russia. we are fighting them in an away game rather than a home game, to use a sports metaphor.
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and yeah. i think it hasn't really changed all that much. >> all right. great conversation julia and nick. thanks so much. u.s. strike group is on the move to the korean peninsula as the north korea condemns the missile strike in syria. what does this all mean? we will talk about that. plus, violence after thousands of protesters take to the streets in venezuela. why they say the government is violating their human rights. aleve with direct therapy tens device, a relief from lower back pain. that's good, cause i need it. i put it on my back. ok, this is interesting. there we go. there's the little tingle. i feel this electrical pulse grabbing at my muscles. level 3. 5. i'm pleasantly surprised. it was more powerful than i was expecting it to be. it worked. what can i say? i believe aleve. learn more and read reviews at aleve.com.
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aggressive moves are justify is its nuclear ambitions. joining us is sarah westwood for the washington examiner. good morning to you, sarah. as so many questions about any strategy for syria as it relates to the united states, now this president has to come up with a strategy for north korea. do you see the makings of one yet? >> from the north korean perspective, they have evidence that president trump is willing to use military force when he thinks it serve u.s. interests. this is clearly a symbolic move meant to telegraph to pyongyang that president trump is prepared to do the same thing he just did in syria. the timing of this is not insignificant. it comes shortly after trump and chinese president xi touted president conversations in florida last week. that included the conversation, the very thorny topic of china's continued support for north korea. part of the reason why north korea has been so aggressive all
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these years is because they have the confidence that comes with being backed by the chinese. what appears to be part of president trump's strategy is getting china to maybe rescind that support and isolate north korea. >> the movement of this strike group may be intended to send the same message to north korea that he is willing to do what he did in syria there, but is he? >> we don't know note. it is just being formed. keep in mind one of trump's top criticism of obama was the fact he felt the obama administration weakened the u.s. image across the world and he was particularly critical of obama's refusal to back up the red line that he drew in syria in 2012. if this is one of the things that president trump ran on, making the u.s. military strong again, making the u.s. respected and feared across the world again, this is a really high profile test of whether he is
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willing to engage militarily when that credibility is on the line. >> let's look at this from the political lens. there are many people who voted for the president because he believes, as he said many times, that the u.s. cannot be the policemen of the world. if fer looking at the news this weekend and they see what happened in syria and now followed by these -- this ratcheting up potentially in north korea, are they satisfied? are they disappointed, potentially? >> well, the question of north korea is a little bit different. it's not so much that north korea is a human rights violator. i mean, they are. but north korea is quickly becoming what some u.s. official flew as existential threat to america or a security threat because they are rapidly developing their nuclear weapons program and they are openly testing missiles that could one day be capable of reaching the u.s. that is not the case in syria. that is mostly a human rights issue with the chemical attack
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and, obviously, it has implications for iran and russia relations. the north korea situation could become a security threat for the u.s. and i think that is why the trump administration has been so aggressive rhetorically toward north korea saying from the beginning all options are on the table. >> we will take a look back at some of the comments the president made during the campaign potentially south korea having their own weapons to protect them. you made a point this is coundoa national security interest for the united states as well. sarah westwood, thank you. >> thank you. outrage in venezuela as thousands of people filled the streets to protest the government. police fired tear gas into the crowd while demonstrators threw rocks. the crowds are angry at the country's president and current members of the supreme court. they say those leaders are repressing them and violating human rights. up next, alec baldwin is
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now after weeks of repeats of "snl," the cast is now back and, once again, alec baldwin is taking on the president. >> this time with a twist. brian ceseltzer is host of "reliable sources." he is joining us this morning. looks like alec baldwin was playing double duties and playing donald trump and bill o'reilly. i love it. talking to himself. >> this time last week, no advertisers pulling ads from fox and now 60 advertisers have withdrawn. here is how alec baldwin played o'reilly and president trump. >> can i tell you something? i actually see a lot of myself in you, bill.
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>> thank you, mr. president. thank you for coming to my defense last week, even though no one asked you to. you event went as far as saying, quote, bill o'reilly did nothing wrong. >> that's correct. >> that is based upon? >> hunch. just a loose hunch. >> so you're not familiar with the facts of the case? >> i mean, i'm more familiar with this case than i am with, saying, health care, but i didn't really look into on it much, no. i was too busy being super presidential by bombing a bunch of [ bleep ]. >> there we go again. "snl" is always quoting directly from the president's own words. and also, guys, we also saw alec baldwin commenting on syria, the strike in syria. here is the interpretation of what happened. >> i just had an amazing week, folks. i met with leaders from china, egypt. gorsuch is being confirmed and saying nice things and none no one is talking about russia.
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what a difference 59 tomahawks can make. are you liking me bombing syria? >> i sure do but i want to talk about my job. i recently got laid off from a coal mining plant. >> i love coal. are you glad i bombed syria? i guess so, mr. president. i actually want to talk about obamacare. >> so it went on from there, of course. the idea being the president's pivoted to foreign policy. i think maybe expressing this show expressing what a lot of liberals have been privately saying or on their facebook feeds the president might be trying to distract people from domestic issues by focusing on foreign issues. "snl" was off for about a month and i'm sure the fans are happy tos alec baldwin. >> let's play the clip on the pepsi ad. take a look. i don't know if we have it. maybe get to it later in the program. the o'reilly/trump was
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interesting and we will get into this later in "reliable sources." and trump being one of the few public figures to come out and support o'reilly. >> we will be watching, brian. after wells fargo was rocked, former employees are telling why and how they lied to so many customers. >> it was the norm to just open sales unethically. it was just what we were taught and we just did it. >> plus, did st. thomas bring christianity to indiana? what you can expect coming up. opioid-induced constipation. had a bad back injury, my doctor prescribed opioids which helped with the chronic pain, but backed me up big-time. tried prunes, laxatives, still constipated... had to talk to my doctor. she said, "how long you been holding this in?" (laughs)
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bank employees created millions of unauthorized bank accounts for customers in order to reach their sales goals or earn bonuses. now two of those former employees are talking to cnn about why they felt forced to mislead customers. >> it was the norm to just open sales unethically. it was just what we were taught and we just did it. >> reporter: more than six months after the fake account scandal damaged wells fargo's reputation, there has been very little accountability at the top. attorney michael kade represents former wells fargo employees. >> i can understand if one district manager is putting pressure on the people below him or her, but if this is going on nationwide you think somebody on the district manager is putting pressure on the dm to get things done. >> reporter: when news of the scandal spread, the ceo left the bank firing a congressional grilling. >> it's gutless leadership.
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>> reporter: and so did the leader of the bank. both walks away with millions in compensation tied to a rising stock price, boosted by aggressive sales tactics. stumpf said many told him he didn't commit fraud but many say the pressure led to that. >> as a teller, we had the bankers just on our backs. >> reporter: to get the clients? >> to get the client that i had as a teller standing up to get them sitting down with the banker. we would look at a phone number and maybe misconstrue one of the numbers. oh, is your home number 1234 even though the screen said 12345 and anything to get them to our desk. >> reporter: in fact, she claims almost everyone at the branch, herself included, was either lying to customers or complicit in it. another former employee explained how simple it was to open a fake account. >> it's pretty much like you signing a blank paper and then the rest of the information is
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filled in saying, oh, this is just to reopen your savings account or reactivate your savings account. when the customer leaves they could put ten accounts on there and open it and the signature is there. even if the customer calls to complain, your sitting is there, mr. customer. >> reporter: at best, they were confused and halved. at worst, they were hit with overdraft fees and some saw their credit score suffer. how did you get the idea in your head if i don't go do this unethical thing i'm going to lose my job? what made you think that? >> they would just tell us that. it was verbalized. we just, again, always had pressure from management, upper management. they were witness to what we were doing. i mean, they coached us because they had to sign off on everything. >> reporter: wells fargo says this is in the past now. its number one priority is rebuilding trust and the bank has made fundamental changes to reduce the pressure on workers
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and insure customers are aware of new accounts opened. banks paid $185 million so far in fines. although it still faces more than a dozen investigations and lawsuits. but just like the financial crisis, jail time for senior executives is unlikely. >> one of those investigation at wells fargo is preparing for vul results of an independent probe released later this month. the bank's chairman said that could lead to more disciplinary actions against current employees and executives. next, exploring christianity and st. thomas link to india. what we can expect in the season finale of "finding juices." aa ge the peace of mind and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we're the williams family, and we're usaa members for life.
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disciple famous for the founder in doubt found one of the early christian churches in india? >> thomas is listed at one of the 12 so we know he is one of the inner group of jesus' disciples. >> he is best known as one disciple. he wasn't present when jesus first appeared after his cruisification. >> thomas vanish from the new testament after the resurrection but an ancient text and recent archaeological documents may reveal what happened to him. >> there are early indications, even before the middle ages, that christianity had somehow, some way, come to india to one could say why not thomas? >> in a cathedral in israeli is run to have been venerated over 1700 years across the christian world and said to be the arm that touched the resurrected jesus. the arm of st. thomas.
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>> as you see here, the season finale of "finding jesus" turns to st. thomas. >> a biblical scholar from notre dame appears in the series and a professor of new testament and early christianity at the university of notre dame. you investigated the evidence behind st. thomas role and bringing christian itity to ind. tell us more. >> there are attacks from the very late second and early third century that talk about thomas' travels and tie him to india. if you ask historically was it possible for thomas to get all the way to india? it was possible but we don't have any first century evidence that places him there. >> when we talk about thomas, what surprised you?
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>> thomas speaks for everyone. he is a doubter. he didn't believe at first. he had to touch. the question is what happened to this man afterward? what did he go on to do with his life? i think what is surprising about thomas is that he seem to have this very rich legend and tradition associated with him. >> so interesting and we definitely will be watching. thanks so much for the preview of what we are going to be seeding, candida moss. if you want to see more, it is airing tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. . ♪ this is just the latest attack on the christians of egypt. >> a u.s. navy aircraft carrier group is headed for waters near the korean peninsula. >> it was designed, i believe, to not only put north korea on
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notice but also to put china on notice. >> he won't stop here. if he need to do more, he will do more. >> they don't want to have to do more if they don't have but want to make it clear to the assad regime they are not afraid to. >> we don't see a peaceful syria with assad in there. >> good morning. i'm alison kosik. >> i'm victor blackwell. good morning. this morning, north korea is denouncing the u.s. missile strikes on syria vowing to strengthen their defense capability. a u.s. navy strike group is on its way to the korean peninsula over growing concerns over north korea's missile tests. >> nikki haley calling her comments on syria sabotage after she had, quote, there is no way to find a political solution with assad at the head of the regime. all this as secretary of state rex tillerson gets ready
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