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really is sparking a lot of outrage. >> they would have spent a $1,000 and offered that message money i'm sure there would have been a lot of people ready to get off that plane. really a stupid decision by those folks who did what they did. thank you very much. that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "outfront" starts right now. breaking news, the white house calling out syria for using deadly barrel bombs. something the assad regime does daily. is it a new red line. plus a massive u.s. war ship headed toward the korean peninsula tonight. will it stop or encourage kim jong-un. plus a manhunt for a man that mailed president trump a deadly manifesto. the breaking news, the white house saying the u.s. is prepared to take more military action against syria. not only if syria uses chemical
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weapons, now citing bashar al assad use of barrel bombs against civil vians. sean spicer made that threat not once, but twice. >> if you gas a baby, if you put a barrel bomb into innocent people, you will see a response from this president. that is unacceptable. the sight of people being gassed, blown away by barrel bombs, ensures that if with he see this kind of action again, we hold open the possibility of future action. >> let's be clear, barrel bombs are evil weapons. they're like ieds dropped from the sky. made from a barrel that is an oil drum that is filled with explosives and shrapnel, things like nails and small metal parts and sometimes they're filled with chemical weapons like cloor reas chlorine and dropped from the sky. assad developed 13,000 barrel
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bombs in 2016. obviously if a barrel bomb is cause for u.s. military intervention, this game has entirely changed. even if sean spicer only meant barrel bombs carrying chemical weapons, assad launched eight such barrel bomb attacks 30 days at the end of last year alone. a complete game changer. perhaps this is why immediately after sean spicer's comments multiple administration officials raced to clarify them. they didn't say there was a change in syrian policy. the confusion comes as rex tillerson heads for moscow for one of the most intense meetings in decades. vladimir putin who once awarded tillerson one of russia's highest honors says he will not meet with the secretary of state. sara, it seems like there is confusion at the white house. >> reporter: that's right. it was a perplexing day to see what the administration's policy
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is going forward when it comes to syria, which, of course, has been the big question in the wake of president trump's decision to order those military strikes last week. now, sean spicer did say multiple times that barrel bombs could be another red line for additional action on the behalf of this administration, but then they walked it back. they said there is no change in policy. obviously if they had come out and said, look, if there is a barrel bomb, we are going to respond, that would be a big change in policy. they're not saying that's not what sean spicer meant, but they're not saying what he did mean. i think what you are seeing is this is an administration that's loathe to draw clear red lines. they don't want to find themselves in the same place the obama administration did where they drew a clear bright red line on syria and when challe e challenged didn't respond. president trump has made it clear he wants to be predictable. he doesn't want to forecast military intervention ahead of
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time. i think that leads to a lot of confusion. >> thank you. the white house offering very different views on the policy towards syria. more contradictions coming days after that base was hit. jim is out front. >> reporter: tonight, syrian war planes taking off from the same air base hit by a u.s. missile strike friday. white house says it has not ruled out further military action there, but it is sending mixed, even contradictory messages on the administration's goals in syria. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. said regime change is inevitable. following last week's chemical weapons attack, which sparked the u.s. military action. >> regime change is something we think is going to happen because all of the parties are going to see that assad's not the leader that needs to be taking place for sur. >> reporter: secretary of state appeared to say the opposite. placing his faith in a political process inside syria over any
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outside action. >> i think our strategy in syria as you know, our priority is first the defeat of isis. it's through that political process that we believe the syrian people will ultimately be able to decide the fate of bashar al assad. >> reporter: sean spicer seemed to acknowledge both end games. >> i can't imagine a stable and peaceful syria where assad is in power. i think we all recognize that that happens and there can be a multi pronged approach. we are ensuring that isis is contained and there's a deescalation of the proliferation of chemical weapons and creating the environment for a change in leadership. >> reporter: tillerson has blamed russia for bearing responsibility in the chemical attack. >> a recent terrible chemical weapons attack in large measure
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is a failure on raeussia's part >> reporter: russia dismisses the acquisition accusing the u.s. of an act of aggression. u.s. war planes continue to fly over syria targeting isis forces even as the syrian regime has increased its air defenses in the western part of the country. perhaps sensitive to public questions about how long lasting the effects are of that u.s. missile strike on friday, the defense secretary james mattis released a statement cataloging the damage and the view of the pentagon among other things saying that syrian planes will no longer be able to refuel from that base to rearm from that base. also presenting this figure that 20% of the syrian air force is no longer operational, though our pentagon team has done some digging on that and they can't pinpoint where that figure comes from and if those planes were taken out in that strike.
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there's sensitivity theren and the president was tweeting about this over the weekend. >> thank you. former governor bill richardson and former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and u.s. energy secretary and defense strategy secretary and former presidential advisor to four presidents and former member of the joint chiefs of staff. this issue of what sean spicer said today, if the u.s. red line is to act if assad uses barrel bombs, that's a game changer. he used 13,000 last year alone. if it's chemical barrel bombs he used eight at the end of last year. either way this is a game changer, right? >> i think if we were going to prevent any use of barrel bombs by the assad government, it would be a damaramatic expansiof american involvement, but my understanding of what the press secretary was trying to say was
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that any use of chemical weapons, whether chlorine gas or the gas used last week, they are, i think, trying to draw a clear red line to say that any chemical weapons used will be penalized with the destruction of forces that delivered the weapon and the surrounding air base. >> let's say he means chemical carrying barrel bombs. that was done eight times in one month at the end of last year. that is still a game changer. that is then war. what other word would be there for that? >> absolutely. what that really means is that we would mean that we go to war tomorrow. that's the difference. right now we are kind of in a holding pattern. but if we actually do what the president secretary said and
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follow him word for word l littally we would have to be prepared to go to war tomorrow. >> let me play again what the press secretary said. here he is. >> if you gas a baby, if you put a barrel bomb in to innocent people, i think you can -- you will see a response from this president. that is unacceptable. the sight of people being gassed and blown away by barrel bombs ensures if we see this kind of action again we hold open the possibility of future action. >> i think what we have here is a failure of communications by the white house. in years past the mornings have been consumed by somebody on the national security staff coming up with a set of talking points for the issues on the day and going to the national security policy people, getting them cleared and sharing them with the defense department and state department and other agencies. if there are any differences
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working them out. you do it so you can avoid the confusion we have here which is not helpful to american foreign policy. >> there's this claim that the defense department is saying that they wiped out 20% of the syrian air force in the strike. but we've been unable to run that down. they're not providing any evidence or giving a press briefing to explain what this he mean. do you think that's possible? they didn't destroy the runways and planes were taking off hours later in strikes, but that doesn't mean it's not true they destroyed 20%. do you think it's possible that that's a real number? >> i do think it's possible and i trust general mattis. i think he is one of the stronger members of the national security cabinet, but i think the big problem here is that what we have is policy change, but nobody is connecting with each other. the secretary of state should be making statements like this. not the u.n. ambassador, not the
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press secretary. the red lines are done by presidents. president obama did that. now, this has to be president trump. i think he has to clarify the policy, talk about an end game, but i will say something. i think the policy is moving in the right direction. but they've got to fine-tune it. they've got to have a final strategy and the president has to back up his cabinet. the president should be clear about the policy towards syria and russia. he should make either an address to the country or a public statement about what he thinks. that's what everybody is wondering. >> it hasn't happened yet. we've been getting instead conflicting statement address from nikki haley and rex tillerson and sean spicer and when it comes to the crucial issue of whether the russians knew, by the way if they did it's another game changer because then you have the russians involved in a chemicals
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attack. the secretary of state was asked if the russians knew about the attack given there were russians on the base where this attack was launched from. >> to our knowledge, we do not have any information that suggests that russia was part of the military attack undertaken using the chemical weapons. >> do you think that's possible, cory? >> well, it does sound pretty unlikely. more over the national security advisor said two days ago it would be hard to imagine that the russians operating on the same base did not know what was happening and weren't involved in it. so i think it's just one more example of the way the administration hasn't gotten its story straight. >> it comes as rex tillerson is heading to moscow. this is a guy who got one of the top honors, was with vladimir putin when he gave that, even if it was symbolic. they were side-by-side when he awarded this medal, but now
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we're hearing that puttin is refusing to meet with him. how significant is that? >> i think puttin will be sending a clear message. >> see how it's going. >> and figure out whether they want to bring him in or not. they will try to play tillerson. they will try to take advantage of him. here the russians have promised us the syrians don't have any more chemical weapons. they said we're going to get rid of these weapons. >> and here they are launching from a base where there are russians. it defies reason. >> one thing, though, it does give tillerson some strong arguments to make against them, but the one thing this has done is it's demolishing the story that trump is a puppet of putin's. what we've been talking about more months about the russian connection, this has been helpful. you wonder about is there a bigger thing going on behind the scenes here.
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is there a bigger story that we don't get. >> thanks very much to all. next, one of america's largest war ships, more than 06 60 fighter jets headed towards kim jong-un. we are live in yopyongyang. a paying customer dragged off a plane. the man who was sitting there who witnessed this our guest. on bill clinton sharing old times. do you think clinton gave bush a pair of these? what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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challenge kim jong-un to launch another missile. the only american journalist on the ground inside north korea tonight and he's out front. >> reporter: facing mounting global pressure to stop testing nuclear weapons, many fear north korean leader kim jong-un might accelerate his weapons program and they're waiting for his next move. on saturday north korea celebrates the day of the sun. their most important holiday of the year. honoring the birth of the nation's founding father. five years ago north korea stritried to launch a satellite just two days before the day of the sun. the first attempt failed followed by a successful launch later that year. now north korea may be ready for a another dramatic show of force of a a series of missile launches u.s. officials believe that north korea is ready to conduct a nuclear test at any time. in response to recent
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provocations, the u.s. is recruiting the carrier strike group to the korean peninsula days after president trump's surprise missile strike on syria. some view the strike as a warning to north korea. the u.s. is willing to respond with force if provoked. the situation is so tense we're at the brink of war says this pyongya pyongya pyongya pyongyang resident. president trump may be trying to stop the development of nuclear weapons, but that pressure seems to be having the opposite effect. one leader says the aggressive acts of war on the part of the united states are getting increasingly wreckless. we will continue to strengthen our self defense capability. north korea is working to develop an intercontinental missile. most analyst say they don't have
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one yet, but it's a matter of time. we think we're very capable of defending ourselves this pyongya pyongyang resident says. the mood inside north korea is not tense, but festive on their biggest holiday week of year. tens of thousands are visiting national landmarks. for the first time cnn cameras are allowed inside the museum of the korean revolution, more than 120 room chronicling three generations. this rare look at north korean history shows the nation is built around these three men. i'm shown footage from 2011 when north koreans learned of the death of the nation's second leader. the footage brings our guide to tears. now, their supreme leader kim jong-un is leading her and 25
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million north koreans like his grandfather and father before him, he has absolute power over the lives of his people. we may hear from kim jong-un or some other north korean leaders at the assembly kicking off in pyongya pyongyang. one of the things they are going to be discussing is north korea's nuclear program. there's been speculation there could be a missile test or north korea's sixth missile test this week during the national holiday and of course north korean officials are telling us that they are watching very closely the movements of the karl vincent carrier strike group. north korea hides so much news and information about the outside world, but on the streets of pyongyang they know everything about the carl vincent and the syrian crisis and the missile strikes ordered
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by president trump because these activities fit the north korea government's narrative that this country is under the threat of invasion with missiles raining down from the u.s. and the actions of the trump administration reemphasize that point and it allows them to tell people they are justified in trying to build a nuclear weapon and ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead capable of reaching the mainland u.s. they could be two years away from having that weapon. >> i want to bring back my panel. colonel, let me start off with the ship, it's fascinating that everybody in pyongyang knows about this ship. this is the uss carl vincent. this is a massive, massive beast. tell me about it. >> this is one of the big power projection platforms that the u.s. has. 6,000 plus crew. the entire carrier battle group is going to have over 7,500
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people. over 60 aircraft. some battle groups have over 70 aircraft, but generally you have a combination of fighter aircraft which have an air-to-ground strike capability and an air-to-air strike capability and electronic w warfare aircraft. >> all of this on one ship. and that's not the arsenal. put it in english, what is the ship capable of doing. >> this ship is capable of defending itself, but it's capable of going after all the different threats that we perceive are going to be coming against it. if the north koreans for example would run an anti-ship missile against the ship or any of the members of the carrier battle group, we would see craft being deployed and the nato sea sp
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sparrow and anti-missile system being deployed and when you have missiles being shot at the aircraft carrier and other members of the carrier battle group, you would have the ram being used to fight those missiles. >> so secretary, you have been to north korea nine times. you know it better than anyone else on the ground. will kim jong-un be deterred by this show of force or will it motivate him more for that nuclear armed icbm? >> well, he's so unpredictable the answer is we don't know, but we should be very very caution. i support the carl vincent taking these steps as a show of force. i think what we need to watch is the possibility of a miscalculation. we've got 28,000 american troops in south korea and 50,000 american troops in japan, 25 million people in seoul. we want to avoid a tinderbox kon
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flig raish. kim jong-un wants a provocation. he wants to show for internal reasons that he's strong and he wants to continue his nuclear effort. i think what we need to watch is what happened in florida. president and the chinese possibility agreeing on a strategy. i have no reason to believe that something very strong has come out, but possibly for the first time an effort by china and south korea announcing that an increased sanctions, but what we don't know is south korea and china combined, especially china, that controls food, fuel assistance, all kinds of support for north korea will really lean on kim jong-un to cool it and possibly the next step is a diplomatic effort and i believe that it's going to be the u.s. and north korea in some kind of bilateral deal if tensions are going to be defused.
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>> this is a map of the korean peninsula. the defense system here is called f.a.t. we can show you a little bit. that is the missile defense system that is there. the point i want to make here, secretary, is actually donald trump said resentscently if chi not going to solve north korea we will. that's all i'm telling you. if the u.s. were to strike north korea's nuclear site to try to do this preemptive strike, could it be be done in one swoop or could you have a strike back from north korea first which millions could perhaps die? >> north korea would strike back. i think eventually we would defeat north korea massively, but there would be the possibility of the 25 million people in seoul being effected and american troops. you want to avoid that, but at the same time i think we have to
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protect our interests in the peninsula and we have to first, i believe, use diplomacy. there's a young american there who is detained by the north koreans. let's not forget getting him out. i've been trying and many others have too. i think we have to be extremely careful. let china show what they're ready to do first before some kind of military strike. >> because colonel, this missile defense system that we were just showing, it is unproven, right, because it hasn't actually had to work in a real-life scenario. >> that's true. many of these systems that are being deployed have either seen service in iraq or afghanistan. this is one that has not. as a high-altitude air defense system it is designed to go after what it says. high altitude missile threats. these missile threats are going to be the ones that could most
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tonight angry voters filling a town hall in florida of a a man was punched at one of the last town halls. some republicans angry at voters for supporting president trump. it has started there. what's happening? >> reporter: this just got under way. so far the environment here is a very civil one, but it just got under way. people waited for hours outside to make sure that they go the a seat inside here. a capacity of 600 people. the last time around when he hosted a town hall it was not as
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smooth. inside that town hall he got an earful from constituents. many people upset about the repeal of the affordable care act or the potential for that. they're upset about potential involvement of russian into the election that may have influenced it towards president trump. i spoke to joy pitts here. interestingly enough, she is one of the people that helped organize this event. the congressman's office made it clear that they were involved here in trying to get this event organized. many people here upset. they plan on voicing displeasure and they waited a long time to get inside. >> thank you. tonight all eyes are on crucial special election in georgia. democrats seizing on the protest against president trump hoping a first time candidate can win a seat that republicans have held for nearly 40 years. jas
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jason carroll is out front. >> reporter: meet the 34 congressional aid and documentary filmmaker has never held public office, but he has become the candidate to beat. >> this has taken on a life of its own and people are watching because it is the new contest of this era. >> reporter: traditionally voters in the sixth district which includes part of atlanta and the northern suburbs have sent to congress the likes of newt gingrich and tom price who is now health and human services secretary. it was thought that one of the 11 republicans running in the special election would claim the seat until he turned the race into a referendum on president trump. >> i want to go to washington and hold people accountable and that includes the president of the united states. >> reporter: trump carried the district by a little more than a point last november. in 2012 mitt romney swept it by more than 20 points.
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he is hoping to tap into angst over president trump. >> we can't let donald trump put us at risk. >> reporter: how effective do you think that has been for you so far? >> there are clearly people who have serious concerns about the president's approach to g govennan govennance. >> reporter: hiring several operative to see help his campaign. >> it's clear this is a district getting behind our president. >> reporter: former georgia secretary of state question if the district is truly on the verge of turning blue. >> they're dreaming about this, but the republicans are going to hold to this seat. >> the republicans will ultimately select a candidate that can beat the democrat. >> reporter: claire has not decided on a candidate. >> it will be a republican candidate. i think he is too liberal.
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>> reporter: cheryl also a registered republican disagrees. she's backing assaf. >> i think he's dedicated and i feel like we need more balance. >> reporter: dave ferguson summed up his reasoning. >> trump. >> reporter: he has raised more than $8 million and has $2 million in the bank. >> he wasn't exactly fighting again against terrorism. >> reporter: his goal for the primary is to get more than 50% of the vote to avoid a june runoff. do you feel any sense of extra pressure. >> i do feel it. i'm human too. there's a lot of eyes on the race. there's a lot of people i want to make proud. >> reporter: cnn, georgia.
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out front now cnn politics editor at large. chris, he has raised more than $8 million in the report. that's more than tom price raised in his last three elections combined. the republicans noticed this. the rnc had an attack today. they are firing back. how seriously are republicans taking this race? >> well, i think more and more seriously because it is a district that donald trump only won by one point. it's not that it's not a republican district, it is, it's because it's not a donald trump republican district. it's affluent and near a big city. donald trump ran above people like mitt romney in 2016 in rural areas that are also republican. he struggled in suburban areas like this. you're going to have to get a bunch of crossover republicans to vote for him to have any chance and he points out the real chance is here is next
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tuesday's primary. a ton of republicans candidates splitting the vote. he's the only serious democratic candidate in the race. it's a one on one race in june, much tougher. >> the thing is here democrats obviously have a lot of momentum to be able to be in this situation. there's five special house elections and the reason is four are republicans now in the trump administration which is obviously why those seats were vacated. you just heard a voter there say one word for why he's going to vote, trump. that is what this is all about. >> reporter: no question. he has made it a referendum on trump as has the democratic candidate in kansas, the race tomorrow night. you've seen big wigs from the republican party. trump has recorded a robo call in kansas for the state treasurer who is the republican nominee. mike pence recorded a robo call.
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these are not things that happen by accident. they are concerned about the districts because it's the first elections in the trump era. when you have a president that is 35% approval, you need to be concerned. >> all right. thank you very much. >> thank you. next, a massive manhunt for a man who sent a threatening manifesto to president trump. why did united airlines call police to drag a paying customer off an overbooked flight. you can't make this story up. it's awful what united did. a passenger sitting in the middle of it joins us next. acci. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. we're the rivera family, and we will be with usaa for life.
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a massive manhunt this hour for a man that sent an anti-government manifesto to trump. the man is believed to be armed and dangerous with more than a dozen high end rifles and hand guns from the gun shop in wisconsin. about 30 minutes after the burglary, the police found his car on fire. they believe intentionally. authorities say the man sent a
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161 page manifesto to the president in a moment he captured on video. >> did anybody that got this letter, you might want to read it. there it is. you see it's [ bleep ]. revolution. it's time for change. >> officials say they spoke to an associate of the man's who says he had been threatening to steal guns and use in an attack. he had made threats toward schools. he sent that manifesto to president trump. his car we know you have found on fire, right? do you have any idea how he's getting around or where he could be? >> that -- no, we don't. that's where we need our citizens to be the eyes and ears of law enforcement. that's not just only for citizens that are here in wisconsin. that's across the nation because he could be in washington, d.c. he could be in california. it depends on wherever he
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believes the next step in his plan is. >> what sort of places are you concerned he could target? >> well, obviously when you read the document that he sent to the white house, he has a strong dislike or hatred towards government officials, both local and federal and state level. so we're concerned that if his end game is to inflict casualties, then he may go someplace where there are going to be a large number of people. so we have tried to increase our security at areas such as the courthou courthouse, school events. >> we know he has obviously this arsenal of guns, bulletproof vest, helmet. how dangerous is he? >> when you look at the document he wrote and sent, it's very lengthy. it's very detailed. one that obviously he has put a lot of thought and effort into.
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in it he talks about revolution. he talks a great deal about change and even in the video where he films himself doing that mailing the document to the president, he brings up revolution. he obviously has thought about this for some time. he went and stole these 18 guns, including long rifles and hand guns. he then goes and burns his car in a des owe lat area and goes under the radar. when he talks about revolution, he's talking about having the people rise up so i believe he's looking for some event or something he can do to promote his cause and that's what really scares us back here. >> and also when you talk about involving others, i mean we see the video of him mailing the manifesto and we heard him speak, it's clear it seems someone else was videotaping him, right? someone else knew he was doing this or was a part of it.
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we're looking at him here. do you have any idea who that is or not? >> yes, we do. we have a identified that individual. he's a male and we're not certain if he even understood the seriousness of that document. we've interviewed him. he has cooperated with investigators and we continue to hold him as a person of interest. he's not in custody and he has korp rat korp rated. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. next, outrage over this. a paying customer violently dragged by police off a united airlines flight in order to accommodate crew that needed to travel to their next flight. the person sitting in front of him, my guest next. on the socks that rock a presidential relationship. i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but..
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>> oh, my god, look at what you did to him. oh, my god. >> that's chicago aviation security officer put on leave tonight. again the story here is united airlines asked for volunteer, really because they needed to get a flight crew on to get to another airport on time. nobody that was paying for their seat wanted to get off. so the airline said tough, we'll pick randomly and you better get off. the united apologized for having to reaccommodate these customers. the man in the orange shirt sitting right in front of the man who was dragged off. we're trying to get that back. lost it for one second. . okay. okay, we're going to go to break, we'll get him back on the other side of it. plus jeanne mos on the sock story.
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fees? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh. and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $4.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab. john, thank you for being with me. it had to be just stunning to see this. there you are, this is another video from a passenger, this is the aviation security officer literally pulling that man out of his seat, forcibly, you see him hit his head on an armrest. it looks like there was blood
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there. could you see if he was hurt? >> he was pleading from the mouth, yeah, he was visibly hurt as they drug him off the plane. >> i mean, we also, you know, some at one point saying i just want to go home. you actually spoke to him. you had had a conversation with him before this video. i understand that you said he was traveling with his wife. what did he tell you? >> well when the united personnel came on and told him he had to leave the airplane. he was sitting with one of my students, we had just gotten back from greece working with refugees. i actually suggested that he call his lawyer. his wife was sitting behind him on the other side of the airplane, they with respect together. yeah, he was very pleasant, very sweet man.
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>> i mean obviously, airlines, the whole story is sort of stunning to believe, obviously they're not supposed to separate people who are traveling with others, he was traveling with his wife. >> right. >> the airline has just released an email that they sent to their employees today. and in it, the ceo of united tell tells us that the employees said that he was belligerent, was he? >> after telling us that we were all stuck on the tarmac, that we would not be allowed to leave until they made run for their personnel. they increased the amount of money they were offering to $800, of course they're not really dollars, they're united dollars for flights. we were going to have to sit and wait until four people
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volunteered. she said that rather than negotiate up a higher price or trying to get other people to volunteer, we'll choose four people to get off the flight. and yeah, that's a pretty traumatic experience. he was fine. he was like the rest of us. a little stunned, that they would even suggest such a thing. and not disruptive at all. when she came on and said he had to leave, he said, look, i'm a doctor, i have patients tomorrow. i need to get back to louisville. i'm not getting off the flight. >> and that's when it escalated, it does seem like he got incredibly upset, and anyone watching could understand why. >> absolutely. >> how shocked were you at all violent this blaecame. >> in understand that united could ask us to leave, but i was
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shocked that they wouldn't raise the price, these are just united airlines dollars and it wasn't really costing them anything at all. none of us thought it would get to that point of violence when the police came on, they were just determined to take him off the plane. there was no negotiating, there was nothing. it was just you're off the plane. >> it's impossible to believe, really. john, let me just ask you this question, will you fly united again? >> i have been asked that several times. i don't know, i would prefer to probably fly a different airline at that point. i mean it's kind of scary, you're sitting on that plane, and in come these three police officers and they pull you off a flight that you purchased a ticket for? it's kind of hard to understand that. >> i appreciate your time and thank you very much. and welcome home. time for jeanne mos and the
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socks appeal of two americans president. >> reporter: so what does a former president get another former president who probably has everything? socks, and not just any socks, green ones which chocolate labradors. >> i like a colorful sock. i'm a sock man. >> reporter: a sock man spotted sporting everything from pink socks to lobster stocks, no wonder bill clinton is socking it to him. the two are close, like when they traveled to the tsunami together in south asia. >> i love george bush. >> and clinton knows bush loves socks, like these cactus ones. his collections have inspired headlines like all the president's socks. you think superman is for kids, check out the president's "superman" stocks worn on his 89th birthday.
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reed my lips, no boring socks, tweeted one guy. if you donate to the gop, you can get an autographed pair. >> your very own pair of george h.b. bush socks. >> reporter: his dad sure knows how to charm the ladies, he donned a red, white and blue pair to cheer on the houston texans cheerleading squad. >> we love your socks. >> i'm surprised you noticed that. >> reporter: and though he's known for being humble, h. those bush selfie socks don't quite have the flare of the trump hair socks. selling for 35.69 at walmart, but be prepared to not just
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wash, but comb your socks. jeanne mos, cnn, new york. and thank you for joining us, don't forget you can watch "out front" any time, any where just go to cnn go. one question with more than one answer, how far is the trump administration prepared to go in syria. it depends on who you ask, how much credence you give to their words. in any event, a weekend since ordering a cruise missile strike against a syrian air base and after years of arguing against any military action at all in syria, donald trump has passed the rubicund. now people are asking what's next, what are the new headlines, and is a new trump doctrine
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