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clinton's life. everybody knew she was guilty. he let her go. susan rice. crime. surveillance? it is terrible. people believe him. time after time, it is just bogus. does that create tension? >> i think over time there is a potential for that. what i would watch in the coming weeks, chris, whether there is an air gap between the white house says about intelligence and what the cia people are saying. a couple of things happened in the past month. you have a bread and butter piece of intelligence. a bomb went into the military facility. they have the assessment of the damage from the bomb and what the russians knew. the guys i worked with have been there since the reagan era. mike pompeo was there and they respect him. the new cia director.
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>> phil, steve, thank you. i appreciate it. thank you international viewers. for you, "cnn newsroom" is next. for the rest, we have the russian interference investigation. let's get after it. >> our meetings today come at an important moment in the relationship. >> the international community watched russia cover up for assad for years. >> very bad for russia. it's very bad for this world. >> someone as despicable for hitler. he hasn't used gas the same way. >> you don't compare anybody. >> it was insensitive. i apologize. >> that ugly scene from the united airlines flight. >> united airlines almost cost them $1 billion. >> this is "new day" with chris
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cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we begin with breaking news. rex tillerson meeting with the russian counterpart. russia says the strikes were a violation of law and discounts what happened. the white house accusing the russians of helping syria of covering up. and vladimir putin could meet with tillerson today. also, we have reporting on president trump's claims that susan rice broke the law on the unmasking. and an explosive report of the trump campaign aide investigated as a russian agent. stiex a stakes are high on day 83 of the trump presidency. we have michelle kosinski live in moscow. >> reporter: alisyn, you have the two-hour meeting beginning with secretary of state rex
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tillerson and russian foreign minister sergei lavrov. a time for pleasantries and welcoming. lavrov slamming u.s. strikes on syria as a violation of international law. something he said should not be repeated. he took the opportunity to criticize the state department. saying how difficult it's been to talk to them because there are still so many high level positions that have not been filled. tillerson, for his part, stuck to cordiality and this being an opportunity to move forward. also this morning, you have the russian government slamming u.s. rhetoric as privative and loudish. you have vladimir putin saying things have gotten worse under president trump. we are also hearing from president trump himself and the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley. >> frankly, putin is backing a
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person that's truly an evil person and i think it's very bad for russia. i think it's very bad for mankind. it's very bad for this world. >> anything the russians say at this point. no one is believing it. the international community has watched russia cover up for assad for years. >> reporter: tillerson wants to confront russia over the continued backing of president assad in syria. try to get them to rethink, the word the u.s. is using, that stance. also to tell russia the u.s. will hold russia accountable for its actions. they are now in a working lunch after the two-hour meeting. there are gaps in secretary tillerson's schedule today. there is still a possibility according to the kremlin that putin will meet with tillerson.
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a change a couple of years ago when tillerson was honored by putin as a friend of russia. >> thank you, michelle. we have a cnn exclusive report. claims of wrongful surveillance from devin nunes blown up by gop lawmakers who looked at the same documents. remember this. >> i was concerned about americans' identities not masked properly or unmasked in reports. >> the question is what was he concerned about? multiple sources from both parties tell cnn there is no evidence the obama administration did anything wrong or illegal. contrary to claims by nunes and president trump. cnn's jim sciutto live in washington with the details. big story. >> reporter: chris, it is. undermining nunes. it appears the president -- we
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spoken to democratic and republican lawmakers and they are casting doubts on claims by devin nunes that officials improperly requested names of u.s. individuals redacted in intelligence documents. these lawmakers have seen the same documents that nunes saw last month. they are telling myself and manu that there is no evidence that the obama administration officials did anything out of the ordinary and this is crucial. one source described the request to me as normal and appropriate. >> jim, what are they telling you and manu about what are in the documentdocuments? >> reporter: one, no smoking gun in the reports. one person we spoke with is urging the white house to declassify them. make them public to make it clear there was nothing alarming in them. a lot of questions have been specified around susan rice in
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particular whether she acted legally in requesting the names specifically of trump officials who were incidentally collected in reports. president trump said he believes she may have broken the law. the sources say they looked at documents behind the requests. nunes saw the same ones. they say they don't back up the president's claim she broken the law. these are routine requests. now the president has not revealed what intelligence he is relying on for the assertion. based on what they have seen, they have no evidence to back that up. >> what do we know for the rules for dealing with unmasking and getting them granted? >> reporter: this is the thing. this is an open question. it is a legitimate question. the rules are set by the intelligence community. certainly officials can make the requests and the nsa in this case, then decides whether to
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grant requests. you can see why the senior officials want to know as they read the classified intelligence reports. who were the russian officials talking about? that's a reasonable question. but there's also question and i've spoken to a number of lawmakers. what are the standards given to unmask the documents? while lawmakers tell me they don't see any evidence of wrongdoing. they do want to at least look at the practices to make sure when the requests come. when the u.s. citizens are unmasked and identity revealed, there is a reason for it. some folks in congress asking that question. they want answers. >> all right. i appreciate it, jim. stick around. let's discuss your reporting and other story this morning. the washington post says the fbi obtained a warrant to monitor the communications of former trump campaign adviser carter page because a judge found
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probable cause to believe page was acting as an agent of the russian government. let's discuss all this. let's keep jim sciutto. let's bring in general wesley clark. and we have chris cillizzia. general, there is a lot of intrigue with russia. the russian interference. we have what is going abroad. you spent a lot of time in that world. the idea we have our secretary of state there right now saying how do we mend our differences and the take is you cannot do what you did again. it was wrong. we dispute anything was done wrong by assad. how do you move on? >> it is a good question. i think it is a good thing rex tillerson is there. you need to have that open dialogue. when you layout your position
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clearly before you go in, like we will hold russia accountable. when you come out, people say did you hold them accountable and what did you get done? it is tricky with diplomacy like this. you will not have a clear-cut outcome. russia will not back off. russia is embedded with iran. this is from the time of desire to get through iran and persian gulf. for 100 years, iran has been trying to get water port and oil. iran won't let him pull out of syria. iran won't pull out of syria. where are we going with the policy? that's the question. we will not find the policy until the administration plays a touch and bump with the russians and gets a feel for how they respond. i think we're going to be in a
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period of suspended animation. i was glad to see james mattis yesterday in the press conference did not commit us to further strikes in syria because that's a black hole when you go down there if you don't have an in-state in mind. you can't create an in-state unless you bring the american people on board. people don't want another big war in the middle east. the united states has less maneuver room than it thinks it does. >> chris, the meeting we are told with sergei lavrov and rex tillerson lasted two hours and 15 minutes. in the meantime, vladimir putin spoken out about it. it sounds like what happened to the u.s./russia relations. in just a week's time. they have gone from suspended animation to deterioration. here is what vladimir putin said. the working level of confidence,
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especially at the military level under the administration of donald trump has not improved, but rather rather worsened. strong words. >> look, general clark is right. vladimir putin is not going to back down here. russia feels it is in a strong negotiating position. i would say, alisyn, i'm fascinated to see how trump responds to the statement you read from putin and lavrov's treatment of rex tillerson. remember, trump's campaign was premised on the idea that we're not tough enough in the world. people are not afraid of us anymore. we have become a weaker nation than we once were. i'm interested to see how being talked to and see the reaction.
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this is not someone who takes tough talk analyd lies down. he almost always responds. he usually does not let these things go unanswered. diplomacy as the general points out is a delicate things. some people in the white house are saying or they are posturing. donald trump is not a wait and see guy. >> it is interesting how little he has tweeted about syria and thinking about the plan. now, jim, bounce to the russian investigation for a second. not only do we have your reporting, but the premise of the wrongful activity going on that is directed at trump. no proof of that. there is proof there was rightful surveillance activity going on of a trump adviser carter page. what do you make of the fisa
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warrant? >> fisa warrants are not handed out like candy. for the fisa court to grant them, they needed probable cause. they believed they had probable cause. carter page identified by donald trump as a close security adviser may have been working as a foreign agent. someone advising the presidential candidate at the time, president trump. since then, donald trump distanced himself from him. this is an important step in the fbi investigation of possible ties between trump and possible collusion with trump and the advisers interfering in the election. they had enough evidence to pursue a warrant to investigate further and that's a significant step. >> jim, one more time.
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your exclusive reporting this morning. you have sources both democratic and republican on the house and senate intel committees that have now seen the very same documents that raised alarm with devin nunes and he had to run to the white house and alert them. they say there is no evidence of susan rice having done anything illegal. president trump just spoke about this on fox business network. he talks one more time abouts his wiretapping claims. let's play that. >> the extent of the surveillance. me and so many other people. it's terrible. >> she said she didn't do it for political reasons. >> does anybody really believe that? nobody believes that. even the people that try to protect her in the news media. it's such a big story and i'm sure it will continue forward.
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what they did is horrible. >> jim, what they did is horrible. is that what your sources say? >> it sis a glib defense. we heard news media trying to protects susan rice. manu and i spoke to democratic and republican lawmakers. senates and congress men and women. on the senate and house intelligence committees who reviewed the dodcuments that wee the basis of the devin nunes claims. they reviewed the documents at the nsa. they said nothing illegal and nothing improper. we spoke to people from both parties to get greater confidence. nothing we have seen yet and nothing they have seen, people with security clearance to see it, to back up the president's claims. >> can i just add --
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>> it has to be said, jim, you have to make the points you are making. yes, he is the president of the united states. he is held to the same standard of truth as everybody else. he has no to snow. chris cillizza, go ahead. >> very quickly to bolster jim's point. this is not a he said-he said conversation. this is a federal court saying yes, there is enough information here we are willing to grant a wiretap on carter page. these are senators and lawmakers saying we did not see what devin nunes said. add that to the fact that you have james comey and jim clapper. devin nunes himself saying trump tower wasn't wiretapped. you have trump saying susan rice broke the law. of course i was wooiretapped. you have a lot of people who are not partisans, necessarily. some are democrat.
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some are not. saying this is not accurate. that scale doesn't balance out at the moment. sorry. >> let's look at a different example of when somebody says something wrong and owns it. sean spicer said something wrong comparing hitler and the holocaust. here is what he said. >> you had a, you know, someone as despicable as hitler who didn't sink to using chemical weapons. >> frankly, i mistakenly used an inappropriate and insensitive reference to the holocaust. i apologize for that. >> this is very hurtful let alone during passover that this came up. chris, is this just about a screw up or blunder as he called it during the interview with
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wolf or a pattern of not getting it? remember trump jr. saying if they did this to the other side, the gas chambers would be fired up. that innocensensitivitnsensitiv. spicer called them holocaust centers. >> i'll give sean the benefit of the doubt. he got into a verbal trap and could not get out of it. this is not a broader theory of anything. that said, press secretaryism 101 says if you start a sentence this is a lot like hitler, you should stop the sentence. it will never work out for you. i think the problem for sean is this is that was the second day in a row where he had an unforced error that caused bad press for the white house. the day before saying if barrel bombs are dropped, we're going
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to respond. questions of drawing a new line or setting new policy with syria. i think he is not in a good place right now and we know he is not someone that donald trump has been in love with from the start. >> panel, we wish we could talk to you more. we have so much news this morning. we have to wrap it up. thanks to all of you for being here. president trump says the u.s. is not going into syria. so what is his next move? why tom friedman says defeating isis in syria should not be the u.s.' next move. he's next. you ome no, i'm good. come on, moe. i have to go. (vo) we always trusted our subaru impreza would be there for him someday. ok. that's it. (vo) we just didn't think someday would come so fast. see ya later, moe. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru impreza. the longest-lasting vehicle in its class.
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in a new interview, president trump is talking about syria for the first time since the u.s. strikes on syria. he is blaming the obama administration. >> when i see people using horrible, horrible chemical weapons, which they agreed not to use under the obama administration, but they violated it. what i did should have been done
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by the obama administration a long time before i did it. you would have had a much better -- i think syria would be better off right now athan it hs been. >> this is the same man who told president obama not to go into syria. it was a mistake. after a chemical attack that was equal to or worse. >> let's discuss that with new york times columnist thomas friedman. tom, great to have you here. >> good to be here. >> in the aftermath of the u.s. missile strikes on syria, what do you see as the trump doctrine or policy? >> alisyn, i don't think there is one. in all fairness, i can't blame them for not figuring out syria. it is incredibly complicated. in terms of what the president ordered the tomahawk missile attack in use of the sarin gas
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there. i look at it on three levels. on the one hand, i agree with that. it reduces the chance that someone else around the world or in syria will again use poison gas. doesn't eliminate it, but reduces it. that is an american strategy. don't want to see that used again. and whether it is a bad actor like russia or iran or north korea. and keeping them off balance is a good thing. what the attack doesn't do is increase our leverage in syria on the ground to forge the political settlement or power sharing agreement with assad and sunni muslims there. that is always the problem. you said someone made the point that the american people simply do not want to be involved on the ground in syria. they don't want to be involved
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if in a fight there. the difficulemma for this administration and previous administration is leverage. when you are not ready to introduce forces of your own on the ground. >> tom, let me ask you something. this ans sum assumption to dr line. why not punish all of the types of efforts against innocents the same way? that's the problem in not just syria, but many of the oppressive insuran oppressive insurance gagss. if he drops a barrel bomb and shoots up hundreds of people, that's okay? >> chris, it is obviously contradictory and there is no simple answer for it. you have to draw a red line somewhere. the problem with saying we're
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going to intradict weapons anywhere in syria, you have to be ready to go into syria. we are not ready to do that. >> tom, you have a new column i want to read to people about what you are going for with president trump in light of all this. you say it is time for trump to be trump. cynical and unpredictable. he should want to defeat seisisn iraq. not syria. his issue should be let isis be assad's, iran, hezbollah's and russia's headache. >> chris and alisyn, they retreated to the safe harbor. what we will focus on in syria is the consensus of defeating
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isis. i said two things. why would you defeat isis in syria when you know that you would be turning the territory over to the assad regime? or you don't have sunnis able to -- good sunnis able to hold that territory if we defeated isis. why take the pressure off assad and the russians. as i said, when was the last time that donald trump did anything for. >> it is like him cleaning up a toxic waste dump for free next to the golf course he wants to buy. it is a retreat we can agree on defeating isis, but we should use isis as a source of leverage. i keep coming back to that word on assad and russians and hezbollah. >> tomorrow, let me get your take. you have tillerson in moscow try
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to draw a straighter line of what we will tolerate and will not. he is at the g7 in italy before that and he says in an offhanded comment. why would u.s. taxpayers be interested in ukraine when obviously the g7 were interested in policing what has done there. >> chris, when you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there. we don't have a sense of the administration with a set of core beliefs. the european union. the other united states in the world. the united states in europe. the other center of democracy and liberal ideas and free markets. i'm a big believer of two united states is better than one. what putin was trying to do in
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going to ukraine was prevent it from going into the european union and prevent it from a liberal market that the russian people might look and say if ukraine is getting better, why don't we have that same deal here. so, what you don't sense with the people is any commitment to core beliefs. european union, chris, the most boring institution in the world. i did a column. i called it trump's european union so people would read it. the european union is the other united states in the world. it is our wing man in the world. if it is weak, which is vladimir putin's direct objective. >> trump's spoke person. just kidding. thank you, tom. united airlines is still reeling from the flight fiasco after the video of the man dragged from his seat screaming.
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all right. so this morning, the ceo of united airlines is offering his deepest apologies to the man in the viral video screaming for his life. he is still in the hospital after forcibly removed from the flight. the incident and airline's initial response cause a hit to united stock yesterday. it was hundreds of millions of dollars. that could all be erased today. now the united ceo is calling the confrontation truly horrific. is this apology enough? let's discuss with jetblue founder and former ceo. david neeleman. you remember almost ten years ago during winter time, paralyzed on the runways. he is now the founder and ceo of brazil's asul airline. what is your out of the box take
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on what happened on that plane? >> i think it's always difficult for people working at the airport if they have to get someone off an airplane. i was on a plane from brazil on another airline, not united. the crew rest area is inoperab e inoperable. they needed two to get off the plane because two needed to rest during the flight. nobody took them up on it. they said we will cancel the flight. you have 280 people on the airplane. they said we will cancel it. i ran to the gate agent. i said, just offer more money. they said we have policies that only allow us to go this far. i said you have $200,000 of revenue on the flight. can you offer more to get people off. eventually i said i'll give tickets. i'll give money. i'll take a pool. the problem is the policies of the airlines. if these people were allowed to offer more money, it would
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resolve. oscar's first instinct. i know him well. he is a good man. he is all about his people and protect him. the first instinct was to protect his people. it was the policy of the airline. it was in place a long time. it kept them from going from $800 to $2,000. they needed seats for a crew to go to louisville so they did not have to cancel two flights. i think they are on the rebound now. they will get it figured out. >> the money is relevant. they should have done more. policies. the ceo out this morning saying it will never happen again. he is very sorry. let's not forget about the obvious point here. it is not your policy. it is how this happened. those guys ripped him out of the plane. messing up his face and dragging him down the front. how could it ever come to that?
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i don't care what your overbooking situation is. how is this an acceptable outcome to a situation that doesn't involve terrorism? >> first of all, it wasn't the united employees that took him off the airplane. >> the chicago air police. the captain sergeants mais the e tube. we don't know if he went in and stopped it because it is his house. >> you turn it over to the police. if the gentleman said i'll get off, okay. it shouldn't have come to that. it was an unfortunate series of events that people can learn from. my southern concern is let's ma. you cannot overbook. a lot of people make money bought off airplanes in america. that is not good for anybody. i think this is a situation of heightened awareness. it will be resolved.
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it will never happen at united ever again. i promise you that. i know from experience. it will get resolved. you know, some good will come out of it for future passengers. >> once this man gets out of the hospital, some financial goodwill probably come from his. he will probably sue. if united has a brain, it will settle. the ceo said this morning, i'll never use those police officials again to take somebody off the plane. is that part of the lesson here? you can't take someone off by force if they bought a ticket legitimately and you have a booking problem on your plane. >> absolutely. that's why the airline i was flying on said i would cancel the flight. they didn't choose to forcibly remove somebody. they said everybody has to get off because we're not operating the airplane. it is a financial solution. had they gone to $1,000.
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$2,000. people would have raised their hands. there would have been a stampede to get off the airplane. they would have lost revenue and inconvenienced people. it is an easy solution. oscar will put in place. >> we wanted you on because you learned. nothing like that. i'm sure you felt at the time nothing is worse than hours of people stranded on the tarmac. this is worse what happened to this man. what do you learn from that? how did it lead you to come up with the creative solution of all customers flying should have a bill of rights. how have you carried your lessons to asul which went public yesterday on the new york stock exchange. congratulations. >> i think it is ironic. the first situation in the crises situation, ceos are told by experts, don't apologize. that was maybe a couple of days into the thing. oscar probably went with his gut
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as opposed to advice. my first reaction was to apologize. i was very sorry what happened. i went on an apology tour. it probably led to my dismissal as a ceo. my board said don't ever apologize. you know, i always think the most important thing to do if you make a mistake is apologize. i did that. we instituted the customer bill of rights. i learned a lot from that experience. today, asul is a great company in brazil. we fly 80,000 people a day. we went public yesterday on the new york stock exchange. we have great value. life is all about learning lessons and doing better. although i'm sad what happened to jetblue. obviously i love the company. i'm the founder of it. now 10,000 people who work for me in brazil. 25 million people travel with us every year. it is not what happens in life. it is how you deal with it.
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>> david neeleman, thank you. interesting. ceos are told not to apologize. may be the reason we have what we have in the white house. coming up, we will have new jersey governor chris christie talking about why he wants the federal government to stop airlines from overbooking flights. so sean spicer made a shocking statement yesterday that today people wonder if he can stay on as press secretary. two former white house press secretarys secretaries are with us ahead. a team of experienced traders ready to help if you need it. it's like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are. it's your trade. e*trade ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms.
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the central and eastern u.s. today. what does this mean for your holiday travel? cnn meteorologist chad myers has the forecast. chad. >> maybe a few bumps in the roads if you are flying cross country. this weather brought to you by xyzal. be wise and take xyzal. amarillo. you will see rain showers and thunderstorms later on this afternoon. some will be severe. these are the bumps i'm talking about across parts of the country. you notice about the northeast today, d.c. and northeast to boston, a cooler day today than yesterday. we were 84 in d.c. 76 today. by the end of the weekend, guys, chris, you will be back up into the 80s in new york city. sunday, 82 after a couple cool days in a row. >> i like it. the right way to say rebirth and renewal on easter with warm weather. thank you very much. there are growing calls for
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white house press secretary sean spicer to step down because of his latest gaffe. a huge blunder. he said hitler did not use chemical weapons. he apologized. he owned the situation. is that enough? two guys who did the job offer their take on the challenges for spicer and any chance at redempti redemption. next. usaa gives me the and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we're the williams family, and we're usaa members for life.
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if i have mistakenly used a mistaken reference to the holocaust, for which there is no comparison. for that aapologize, it was a mistake to do that. >> a rare apology from a key member of the white house administration, sean spicer saying he is sorry for comparing chemical attacks in syria to the holocaust. how will this mistake impact his future? joining me two men, former white house press secretary for george w. bush, ari fleischer and senior adviser to barack obama dan pfeifer him danner, when you we heard what sean spicer said yesterday about how well even hitler never used chemicals on his own people or never used gas, what did you think? >> well, i mean, i was shocked.
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it was a one of the cardinal rules of communication, whether you are a press communication director or anything else, never make a comparison to the holocaust. it never goes well. it will go down in the anals as the most outrageous ones. i give sean credit for apologizing. it's hard to put the horse back in the barn here. >> meaning what, dan? you think his days are numbered? >> look. i don't know. you can't never really tell what's happening inside the trump white house. i think his days as an effective press secretary one taken seriously be i the white house press core may have been numbered. he may have already crossed that threshold. >> ari, you are also a former george w. bush secretary and on the board for the republican jewish coalition, what do you explain what sean spicer said? >> i think you have to listen to what general mattis the defense secretary, he was asked about it later, he properly said chemical weapons were never used on the
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battlefields in world war ii or the battlefield in korea. that's obviously what sean was intending to say. he made a terrible, terrible mistake. and i'm glad as both press secretary from a professional point of view but somebody who lost some people in my family in the holocaust from a personal point of view he apologized. he did the right thing t. notion that this is some now nefarious or indicative of holocaust denial. i dismiss. i think that's the normal party that you don't like, you say the worst things you can about him. that's not sean. i know that for a fact. so he made a bad mistake. i wish he had never done it. >> all right. you are being very mag nam nan mus, look -- magnan mus. everybody universally says, this is a good guy, a nice guy, this is a smart guy. so ari, do you think then, can we conclude that maybe he's
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overwhelmed be i the job? >> no you know i think he's actually representing this issue aside his boss very well. he's doing what donald trump wants him to do in the way donald trump i think largely wants him to do it. but you know i did some 600 briefings, 300 on camera, 300 on gaggles. i twice had to recuse my words. every syllable is written down. have you to be so careful each and every day and it does happen. you say things, anchors say things they wish they never said. >> never! >> that's right. when you are the pressing is, you make mistake, you get pounded for it. >> i guess, dan, people wonder if this is a pattern if, in fact, he is unconsciously representing something about this administration that they shouldn't be public. >> that is that there have been other gaffes or omissions that seemed insensitive to the jewish population. for instance, on holocaust remembrance day in their
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proclamation, they didn't mention jews. donald, jr., said, in an attempt to criticize democrats, i think if republicans were doing that, they'd be warming up the gas chamber right now. do you think that what sean spicer said is indicative deeper than a gaffe? >> look, i don't know, i know sean a little bit. i have no reason to suspect he has some sort of anti-semitic views. this is not the case of a very poorly worded gaffe, but there is no question that there have been a series of things the ones you mentioned, some of the content that's deep publication, breitbart news are troubling. i have been hesitant to connect what sean said yesterday to that without some knowledge that he shares those feelings that joined some of the other examples you cited. >> why not, ari? >> look, let me jump in. this is nonsense, it reminds me of people saying the rise of
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anti-semitic events in the united states the attacks on the gccs where because trump became president. we all learned later it was done by a journal allegist and israeli teenager. this notion that everything happens you attribute to donald trump. i don't accept. anti-semitism is vial. ly fight it with everything in my power. i will call it when it's legit. don't confuse it with a foolish gaffe. >> just to be clear the teenager didn't do all of. that he called in the threat. >> he and the journalist did t. two of them toke. >> in terms of the vandalism and in terms of the desecration of burial sites. >> you can't blame that on donald trump. >> no, of course not. i'm saying they weren't responsible for the wide swath of all the things that were happening around the country. but i take your point, ari. >> but there is much of the political left that does blame it on donald trump. they attribute it directly to donald trump's election. that's nonsense, sadly, there are these types of attacks for donald trump, sadzly the attacks after donald trump.
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it's a teeny tiny portion of america that deserves that must be condemned. i will never confuse it with the broader population. >> so, ari, in terms of sean spicer, does he stay in his job? >> i think he does. yesterday's apology went a long way. it was a appropriate thing to do. i personally accept his apology. if he hadn't apologized i think he would have created a problem for himself. it was a remorseful, genuine apology. >> thank you both very much for your expertise in weighing in on this. we are following a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it. >> it's backing a person that's truly an evil person. >> rex tillerson face-to-face with his russian counterpart. >> the russian government have aligned themselves with an unreliable partner. >> there is no doubt the syrian regime is responsible for the attacks. >> he's a war criminal. assad is a war criminal.
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>> they're birds of a feather. >> someone as despicable as hitler didn't even use a chemical weapon. >> i don't know if he needs to be fired, he certainly need to be better in his job. >> i shouldn't have done it it has a price tag that pr, a quarter of a million dollars. united airlines is tailspining. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn cameroto. >> good morning, welcome to your "new day." secretary of state rex tillerson and his russian counterpart meeting for several hours in moscow as the rhetoric for both sides, he stepped over syria. will secretary of state tillerson meet with president putin? >> we have major developments in the interference, a different conclusion about under surveillance. >> that which devin nunez tried to sell and a breaking of the
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law. and an explosive new report out that one of trump's campaign aides was being investigated as a possible russian agent. day 83 of the trump presidency begins. we have it all covered. let's gin with michelle kazinski live in moscow t. meeting between laulavrov to rex tillerson, two-plus hours, what's the word? >> reporter: this was always going to be an extremely difficult meeting, but that was on display there morning even before this crucial meeting got under way. this was a time for pleasantries and a photo op. but the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov didn't want to wait. he got right into it. criticizing u.s. airstrikes on syria, calming them a violation of international law and saying they must stop. he also took the opportunity to slam the state department, itself, for not having enough people. there are all of these high level positions still opened. he said
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