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law. and an explosive new report out that one of trump's campaign aides was being investigated as a possible russian agent. day 83 of the trump presidency begins. we have it all covered. let's gin with michelle kazinski live in moscow t. meeting between laulavrov to rex tillerson, two-plus hours, what's the word? >> reporter: this was always going to be an extremely difficult meeting, but that was on display there morning even before this crucial meeting got under way. this was a time for pleasantries and a photo op. but the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov didn't want to wait. he got right into it. criticizing u.s. airstrikes on syria, calming them a violation of international law and saying they must stop. he also took the opportunity to slam the state department, itself, for not having enough people. there are all of these high level positions still opened. he said it's been difficult to
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communicate. secretary of state rex tillerson for his wanted to stick to the cordiality, talking about the relationship and this being an opportunity to go over areas not only of differences, but also to try to find cooperation. also this morning, we're hearing from the russian government, calming u.s. rhetoric primitive and loudish. russian president vladimir putin saying the relationship has deteriorated with trump as president. but trump and his ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley has their own words for russia. >> frankly, putin is backing a person that's truly an evil person and i think it's very bad for russia. i think it's very bad for mankind. it's very bad for this world. >> anything the russians say at this point no one's believing it. no one is. i mean the international community sees this for what it is. the international community has watched russia cover up for
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assad for years. >> tillerson wants to make the points strongly that russia needs to change its tune and stop backing president assad in syria. also to make the point that the u.s. is going to hold russia accountable for its actions and its responsibility. not only there but elsewhere, including ukraine. we still don't know if there thereby meeting between putin and tillerson, but the kremlin says it is still a possibility. >> tillerson putting out that odd statement about ukraine saying why would u.s. taxpayers care what happens there? michelle kazinski, thank you very much. cnn exclusive reporting, claims of unmasking by house committee chair devin nunez blown up by gop lawmakers and democrats alike who look at the same document. remember this from nunez? >> i was concerned about american's identities not masked prorply or, in fact, being
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unmavth unmasked in intelligence reports. >> they tell us there is no evidence the obama administration did anything wrong or illegal contrary to those claims by nunez and president trump. jim scuitto is live in washington with the exclusive details. jim. >> reporter: good morning, republican and democratic lawmakers and aides, they are casting serious doubts that by devin nunez obama administration officials improperly requested the names of u.s. individuals that had been redacted in intelligence documents. these lawmakers have seen the same intelligence documents nunez reviewed last month. they tell us they see no evidence that the obama administration officials did anything out of the ordinary or liam, one source describing the request by these officials as quote normal and appropriate for officials in those kind of positions. >> okay. so jim you and manu raju have
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now talk to sources actually with their own eyes seen these documents. what is in them? >> reporter: a very uniform description, really. one source tellinging us that there is absolutely no smoking gun in these reports. in fact this person who manu spoke to is urging the white house to declassify these do you means to make it clear to the public that there is nothing alarming in them. a lot of questions have been around specifically about the roam of susan rice, whether she acted legally in requesting the names specifically of trump officials who were incidentally checked in the intelligence reports. president trump, himself, says he believes she may have broken the law. he repeat thad claim, speaking to fox's maria bartoromo. >> that airing today. again multiple sources looked at the actual documents behind nunez' claim. that i say they flatly don't back up nunez' claims or the president's claims that she broke the law. >> that these are routine requests. >> jimmy, let's talk about. that what does that mean,
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routine requests? what are the rules? >> reporter: so, listen, this is a big an sensitive area. these are rules, set by the intelligence community. certain national security officials, the most senior national security officials can make such requests, that they're reading every day, classified intelligence reports. it's the agency's then the nsa in this case, that decide whether to grant those requests. now, i am told in practice, the requests of senior officials, they're rarely denied. if susan rice comes from the intelligence communities asks to unmask an american, they're going to grant that request. so when we have spoken to some law makers, despite their judgment of what the obama officials did were within the law, within regular practice. some members of congress, they want to look at what the justifications are for unmasking requests and what the standards are for the intelligence agencies to grant these requests and look to see if they need to be tightened up. that's a reasonable question that many members want to look
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into. >> okay. jim, thank you very much for all of your exclusive reporting and sharing it to us. now to another story getting so much attention, united airlines facing backlash after this horeb scene. this was a passenger being forcibly removed from his seat and dragged off a plane because he did not want to comply and give up his seat to a united airlines staffer. this man says he is a doctor. he wanted to get home to see his patients. he felt it was urgent. united airlines had a different plan and they called in basically law enforcement and had him dragged, kicking and screaming from the plane. now, new jersey governor chris christie is calling for action. governor christie joins us now. good morning. >> good morning, how are you? >> who do you blame for this ugly incident? >> united. i have unique knowledge on this because newark liberty international airport is the united hub.
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they control 70% of the flights in and out of newark. if i can tell you, i can fill a book with all the complaints i have about united airlines from constituents saying -- >> is there something in particular about united? united does something different than other airlines? >> i can tell from you constituents in new jersey and my own experience, i don't think united has ever really recovered from their merger with continental. i don't think they've ever established a culture. can you tell that from listen to their ceo who had three different tries to try to say what everybody could see here, which is this is unacceptable, to have somebody pay for a tick. reserve a seat. be seated and dragged off the plane physically by law enforcement officers by the direction of united. it's outrageous. that's why i've asked the administration, the trump administration, to stop overbooking until we set rules how the airlines can conduct themselves. >> your suggestion and what you ask the trump administration, wouldn't have solved this problem. this wasn't an overbooked
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flight. it's a full flight. then united decided they wanted to get their four staffers to another airport and that took precedence over these passenger's seats. >> well, it shouldn't take precedence over the people who are paying t. fact of the matter, i'm talking about the right of the passenger, when you pay a ticket. as everybody knows, these tickets are not cheap. airline travel is getting more and more expensive, united is making more and more money. if you get seated on the plane, this is not asking for people to give up their seat before you get on. you seat them and come on and say our employees are more important than the traveling customer remembers. that's why i think, dot the federal department of transportation has to stop the overbooking rules and give them latitude and take a breath. passengers are fed up. and they should be. >> have you expressed your complaints to united directly? >> yes. >> and what's been the response? >> no response yet. >> okay. we have a response, not to you, but from the united ceo.
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as you point out, he's taken a few different bites a at this apple. firmgs he suggested to his employees the passenger was being belligerent. then by today he worked around to sounding more conciliatory and sensitive. here's what he said on another morning show. we will play it for you. >> we are not going to put law enforcement officials to take them off. >> a law enforcement official will not come on to your planes again? >> to remove a booked, paid, seating passenger, we can't do that. >> does that go far enough saying no law enforcement will ever drag another passenger from a plane. >> >> well, that's a good start. you know the fact is i think most people would have focused twofr happened anyway. why do they offer you the option of paying you to get off the plane if it's not an option? once people didn't want to take the pay, they wanted to get to their destination, then you will call the police in to drag you off for a united employee?
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work on some other solution to the problem. do better planning. what they do the customer is always last. with united the customer is always last. the ceo proved that by having to take the turns to simply say i'm sorry. how could you not look at that video and be mortified that your organization permitted that to happen? it shows you what little regard united holds their customers in. i tell you, i hear these stories over and over again at newark international airport about how awful united treats their customers. >> by the way, i'm not sure he can't make a blanket statement no law enforcement officer will drag another passenger off the plane. sometimes it is warranted. sometimes have you an incident. it's dangerous saying we will never, ever do this again. >> alisyn, you do know, you see this in your job, this is what happens when people don't know what they believe. they take a couple different shots. now he's going to the other extreme to seem more compassionate, more
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understanding, when, in fact, he has a tin ear on this, he proved that by sending the internal e-mails that blamed the customer. i thought the customer was always right. now we know they're not always right, but that itself attitude that they should start from, balls of this business, they are given so much latitude by the government to conduct it the way they want to, that they feel it disregards common courtesy to a customer. >> sow want to see that change. will you ever fly united again? >>ly have to. it's 70% of the flights from newark airport. so you know, thisseee i'm just like any other person who lives in the northern part of my state. if i don't want to come to new york city and fly out of laguardia on kennedy, which is much less convenient or drive to philadelphia, which is much less convenient, i am already required to fly united because of the dominance of this airline at newark international airport. that's why there are so many complaints, update us, alisyn. this is easy to fix. the government should take a
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deep breath and say prove to us what these rules should be. have you obviously abused them. we are tired of having our customers and our citizens abused. >> let's move onto the news of the day. we want to get your opinion of things, steve bannon, the new york post has an interview with donald trump in which he says this about one of his top strategists. i like steve. but you have to remember, he was not involved in my campaign until very late. i had already beaten all of the senators and the governors, no offense. and i didn't know steve. i am my own strategist. it wasn't like i was changing strategies, because i was facing crooked hillary. steve is a good giecht. i told them to straighten it out or i will. are steve bannon's days numbered? >> who knows? the president needed to say, staff are there to serve the president of the united states. they're not there to serve themselves. i think what he said at the end there, that was not only to steve but to all the staff, which is straighten out these
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problems that are being reported and the fact fighting and the infighting that's being reported on or i'll straighten it out. i think that's the president of the united states taking control and saying, listen, i've let you guys do these things that haven't gone well, so you need to straighten out these problems. so i wouldn't jump to conclusion about that, except he's the president sending a strong message. which knowing him, i assume he said in private. which he said i don't like this bickering. enough already. get your act together. i know steve, steve is a very bright guy. i got to work with him during the campaign. i think he was a big help to the president during the campaign and everything i saw he was involved in. but staff are there to serve the principle. >> it sounds like the president is not happy people call him, you know, that he's basically trump's brain or he's the chief strategist and he's feeding information to president trump. president trump is saying, no, a imthe top strategist, basically. >> is listen, every presence pm, whether are you the government
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or the president, you are ultimately responsible for what goes on t. fact is i wouldn't like anyone saying it's my brain or the president either. by the way, it's not true. steve has the ability to give advice to the president. in the end, these decisions are the president's. i've always thought that was an awful characterization. because the president is responsible for those decisions. i've watched him, am sin, he makes his own decisions. >> i want to ask you about jim scuitto's exclusive reporting. he has spoken to republicans and democrats on the house intel and senate intel committee. they have seen the same documents that devin nunez saw and it appears mr. trump is basing his claims, susan rice, former nsa director did something wrong. they say there's nothing in there. they don't see anything illegal. they don't see anything wrong, it was completely customary what she called for. is it time for president trump to correct his own record here? >> you know, what i think is we should allow this entire investigation to play out, am sin. you know, i understand that people will give information
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privately to the media and allow that to come out and be reported. that's a part of your job. i totally get that. but we have an investigation going on, on that issue and on even larger issues regarding russian interference in the elections. i trust the senate intelligence committee to do this the right way. i think the two leaders of the intelligence committee on the senate side have shown themselves to be objective and quiet. they're doing their job. so i'd say that nobody should be saying a whole lot more of anything else until we let these folks do their job. >> when they're done and when they conclude that susan rice did nothing wrong, then should president trump correct his record? >> we don't know it will happen. >> if it were. >> listen, there is a whole bunch of hypothet cals that can happen here. i think everyone should take responsibility for whatever role they played in whatever happened during the election. i think the first and most important thing for us to determine is what role did russia play in trying to influence the election? and that's the most important, because that's the threat for a
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democracy. >> and on that, point, we now know from other reporting that carter page was the subject of a fisa warrant that the fbi felt he was cooperating somehow or coordinateing somehow with russian operatives. you were a part of transition team. what is your impression of carter page? >> i never met him. i don't have any impression at all. alisyn, let's be careful about not convicting people before they have even been charged of anything or accused of anything. so just because are you the subject of -- i dade lot of fisa warrants when i was a u.s. attorney for seven years. what you try to do is find out information through the use of. that i'd be very careful about convicting anybody in public opinion. that's an awful thing to happen to somebody, too. they can't even defend themselves at this point in a way if the investigation is ongoing. so what i'd love to see is everybody take a deep breath. i saw your current 83 days of the trump presidency.
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the coverage has been breathless, i'm not saying good or bad, but like i'm tired from listening to it. >> not just the coverage, the news has been breathless, everything coming out, all of the developments, are you right, it is a breathless news cycle. >> what i would say, when we jump to conclusions, i don't know carter page, i don't know him. everybody in this country deserves, me, you, chris, everybody else, deserves the presumption of innocence, just because somebody was the subject of a warrant according to these reports, we don't know if that's true. let's say he was, that doesn't make him guilty of anything. so as a former prosecutor, i used to tell my prosecutors all the time, the name of our department is not the department of prosecution, it's the department of justice. our job is to do justice, justice is about first and foremost protecting the individual rights of everybody, let's not jump to conclusions. >> it's day 83 what has been the president's biggest accomplishment? >> kneel gorsuch. a big accomplishment for the
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president. he deserves an a-plus for that one. >> thanks, for having you in the studio. >> thanks, for having me. >> chris. all right, the white house showing it can apologize, press secretary sean spicer delivering a rare mea culpa after making a bare comparison between bashar al-assad and hitler. >> reporter: chris, you know, it has been a tough week for the message machine here at the white house. there was confusion over the policy in syria, then a big gap that completely pushed the white house off the important message of the day. so it was no surprise really when the president, himself, tried to step in to clear up some of the questions about syria. >> we're not going into syria. >> reporter: president trump asserting definitively he has no plans to escalate u.s. involvement in syria after last week's strike, stressing he was compelled to act because of the syrian dig tatdor's use of
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chemical weapons. >> they have these massive barrels with dynamite. they drop them in a group of people. you see the same kids, no arms, no legs, no face. this is an animal. >> reporter: president trump also blaming president obama's inaction for the crisis in syria. >> what i did should have been done by the obama administration a long time before i did it and you would have had a much better, i think syria would be a lot better off right now than it has been. >> reporter: these comments are in stark contrast to trump's position four years ago when he argued there was no upside and tremendous down side to obama taking action in syria. meantime, press secretary sean spicer feisty facing intense backlash claiming bashar al-assad is accused of worse acts than hitler. >> we didn't use chemical weapons in world war ii, you had someone as despicable as hitler
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who didn't sink to using chemical weapons. >> reporter: ignoring his tore, asserting hitler did not use chemical weapons. >> when you come to seren gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that assad is doing. >> reporter: spicer attempting to clarify his statement during the briefing. >> there was not in the, he brought them into the holocaust center. i understand that. but i'm saying in a way assad used them. he went into town, into the middle of town. >> reporter: and subsequently apologizing in a written statement and again on cnn. >> there really is no explaining at this point. it's just to say, especially this week, it was not something that was appropriate and it was insensitive. >> reporter: the blunder at the beginning of passover, provoking speculation about spicer's future in the administration. >> it's unfortunate and we should never have comparisons with hitler ever. >> it's obvious that sean spicer
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needs to know a lot more about history when he's making his comments. those comments were insensitive and ignorant without question. >> reporter: not to be overlooked on the important news coming out of here, a senior administration official accusing moscow of trying to cover up syria's involvement in that chemical attack, though the white house cannot say for sure whether russia colluded with syria on the attack. chris and alisyn. >> joe, thank you very much. more on russia. secretary of state rex tillerson in a high stakes meeting with his russian counterpart. so what will come out of today's meeting? we discuss next.
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secretary of state rex tillerson had a meeting with russian foreign minister sergei lavrov lasted just over two hours, both sides trading barbs over the syria crisis. lavrov says the u.s. strikes in syria were unlaufrl and cannot happen again. the u.s. is accused of helping assad cover up a chemical attack. let's discuss with cnn chief national correspondent jim scuitto, senior diplomatic analyst and spokesperson john kirby and congressional reporter for the washington post karoun, good to have you on. karen, karoun. give me the proper pronunciation of the game. you will be a part of the family. >> it's karoun.
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you said it. it's good to have you on. i appreciate you being here. you get the first question, we are ethnically sensitive here, people's names get mangled on a regular basis. this state of play, they have the big meeting. tillerson said he wanted to go into the meeting trying to figure out what the basis of differences are between the two countries. he must have a clear reckoning of that right now. they say, according to president putin. they don't know if this bombing happened as the u.s. says it did in syria. where do you go from there? >> it's a difficult place to start from when you can't even agree on what happened and whether there was an actual strike that involved chemical weapons or whether it was a warehouse where they happen to be stored and you had that on display as soon as the meeting started with tillerson trying to very diplomatically say we don't agree on anything here, our bottom line is don't attack the syrian government again. so how you get to the point of reconcileing that and establishing re-establishingde-
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>> he called for me to get fired. >> there you go, you have a special relationship with him. at what point does he start at? what is tillerson likely to walk away from that meet something. >> lauvrov is as subtle as one f the president's tweets. when you had that photo sway, it was predictable he would come out hard, i'm not surprised he took a swipe at state department staffing. that's also in line with this sarcastic demeanor. i think what is really important is when the cameras go away the doors close and they sit there for a couple hours, what the tone and the tenor is, i'm interested to see how that goes. there is no question the united states and russia are on completely two different sides here with respect to syria.
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there is no doubt in my mind, russia is not going to change their calculus, it's not that they're seeing the per pitchuation of assad, they want a stable regime, they will not let go of that. now, what i do think is, it's possible the that this strike on the air field might have given tillerson a little leverage that secretary kerry didn't have when he would sit down with lavrov. i think that strike, no matter how much they might have tried to dismission it or called it illegal, i think it might have rattled their cage and tillerson went in how to use that as leverage to get the russians back to the diplomatic table. >> what does it what ento you, the president seems pretty inconsistent on not tweeting about syria, laying out any policy there, not tweeting about russia, specifically, or babt putin or any of their wild allegations, he does keep tweeting about north korea, he just did within the last five minutes or so, saying he had a good call with the head of china
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about the menace of north korea. what do you make in the preference? >> i got to tell you, if i were to choose a countries not to tweet about, it might be north korea, particularly yesterday the comment from him on twitter. i can't quote it exactly, it's something like, we're watching. brace yourself in effect for the reaction. this is a country that is very good at provocation, right? so they can match your provocation with their own and as john kirby know, that can be very dangerous. it can be a missile test. it can be shelling islands, sinking a warship as they do this kind of stuff. it's very dangerous territory. we are now in a real life experiment as to how donald trump twittered diplomacy if you want to calm it that, how that plays out in the most volatile national security crisis on the planet right now. that's a real question. on the other stuff, it's always hard to say what captured the president's attention at any
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given moment that he then tweets about. is it a part of a strategy or a plan that he's not making twitter comments about russia, for instance, or about syria or about a planet policy for syria going forward? is that a part of a plan sore it not a priority -- or is it not a priority when he wants to seek that bully pulpit of the world. watch north korea how they react to stuff. i am sure they are following the president's twitter comments closely. >> there is so much to watch, we need more than two eyes, what is happening in north korea, what is happening in syria. then people are on tender hooks trying to figure out if secretary of state tillerson is going to actually be met by vladimir putin, who at one time called him a good friend. what do we expect today from that? >> right. we don't know what to expect there. i think that is in a way tactic am by russia to not answer that question and leave us on the tender hooks to physical out if
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that's going to happen or not. and with that is just another power play here that's happening and you can basically trace this meeting to those things or origins. is lavrov going to have the upper hands coming out or is tillerson, he's the more serious diplomat. as we said the united states did make a strike in syria, which probably did rattle moscow quite a bit. so who comes out of this being the stronger party? that is certainly the party, diplomats come to the core, there is a lot of weights thrown around more and be more influential on the ground. >> john, help me with this one. rid him me this tillerson seems to have a harder line on russia when he heads in there, you know, about what will be acceptable, what isn't. but before he gets there, he's at the g7 with a group of people very concerned of what's happening in ukraine. he says, why would the american taxpayer care about what's going on in ukraine? what's that about? >> i don't know. i'm absolutely befuddled by that
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comment. i just don't understand it. look what russia is doing in ukraine, which we all don't talk about a lot. it's very serious. they have violated the territorial integrity of ukraine. they continue to do that instability there. it does matter, it matters to our allies and partners in europe. it matters to the american people because it matters so much. now we have troops deploying more to balkan countries. so this is not a conflict, frozen though it may be in the headlines, it's not a frozen conflict on the ground in ukraine i can assure you that, back on the putsen thing, it's not atypical to keep you on the string with a putin meeting. there were times when secretary kerry would travel. we weren't sure when we got on the ground whether it was going to happen or not. most often it did. you we heard peskov say it probably won't happen. i wouldn't be surprised if it's a late-night meeting for president putin.
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he likes to do that. >> that's good context. panel, thank you very much for automatic information. president trump is not ruling out some kind of action in syria again. what is the plan? what about the plan to pay for it? we're going to ask white house budget director nick mulvaney next. man: when people ask me for whiter teeth, i always tell them, "the thicker the enamel, the more white you're going to have." i would definitely recommend the new pronamel strong and bright to my patients. pronamel strong and bright toothpaste helps to actually strengthen the enamel. it's going to keep that enamel strong.
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>> we're not going into syria, but when i see people using
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horrible, horrible, chemical weapons, which they agreed not to use under the obama administration, but they violated it. >> joining us now is the white house budget director nick mulvaney, it's good to have you. i want to pound out these as obstacles to the agenda. we just we heard the president there talking about what to do in syria. there is a definite set of mixed messages, what would it take to get on the same page of what to do in syria? >> i think we're all on the same page when it comes to syria. i think the white house has been straight forward, to the question of how we would pay for it. we have asked congress to increase funding to the military. we did that in our budget request a couple weeks ago. we're continuing those seductions right now, obviously, congress appropriates funds under our constitutional system wind chill ho ep they see fit to fund the president's priorities, but we will, we are and will
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remain on the same page, especially when it comes to financing. >> so what is the position in syria right now? you know as of a week ago, haley saying one thing, tillerson another, nothing from trump. then you send in 59 tomahawk missiles, now we seem to be trying to find a middle. so what's the policy? >> you realize you ask the budget guy that question. >> you said it, they're all on the same page. so i figure you know what that page is, though. >> my guess is that you are much better off talking to folks that handle our foreign policy, my responsibility is to figure out how to pay for those missiles and that's what we're dock on a budget request. >> let's get to the budget here. one of the things that's interesting in this dynamic is you are a former freedom caucus guy. you want to go after entitlements. you believe there is a lot of room for change there. the president does not agree, our entitlements off the table in terms of cuts in the upcoming
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budget, including social security disability. you got a pocket of 10 million people affected be they disbursement. what's the reality? >> i've had great conversations of the president over the last several weeks about the larger budget that we'll be rolling out in late may. he's been very clear, every single time when you talk to him, he says, loose, i ran telling people i would not touch social security. i would not touch medicare. that's exactly what his budget will reflect. it's not exactly what the house freedom caucus would like or a lot of folks would like to talk about. this president has been extraordinarily clear with me. he knows the promises he made on the campaign trail and he absolutely intends to keep them. >> social security disability account in entitlement for you guys? >> i have been trying to have a conversation, it's not what a lot of people consider to be. so you ask most people what they think about social security. they think of old age retirement, that's rightly so. there is a portion called the disability insurance program,
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which is a different part of social security. it does have the word social security in it. i think there is a chance to talk about that moving forward. right now the president's position is, if it's social security, i'm not touching it. >> ten million people, the idea of priorities, health care first before tax reform, that had gone away in terms of the messaging from the white house. now it seems to be back. do you agree with that? must you get health care first? >> i do, for a couple reasons, there is scoring reasons with the strange rules the house and the senate use that make tax reform easier, there are some political things that need to be taken care of in obamacare repeal such as the medical device tax. then finally, there is the overall momentum. we think it's more ability to drive the debate on taxes after we fix health care.
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so i think generally speaking the plan is trying to do health care first. one thing we learned chris is the house had issues it had to resolve amongst itself. there were a lot of things wrong that had nothing to do with the white house. is insurance the house has been working on it a little more organically, you see slow progress. i think we are making progress in getting health care, obamacare repealed. >> that's something. if you have to get that done first, there is reporting showing people are shy, that will bring in a timing delay. which brings in another priority, cutting costs out of agencies. now, this is something we hear every once in a while. we heard it in '93 with clinton. we heard it in 2011 with obama. this plan sounds like that. they never seem to really cut away the fat as they're supposed to, what might be different this time? >> you got a businessman in the white house that knows how to do this. >> that knows how important it
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is. for example, one thing you didn't see in '93, you didn't see in 2011. we went up on the white house.gov website yesterday, inviting people to give us ideas. our customers call us, say, look, here's my experience with the next. here are my ideas on how to do it better. we met with leaders asking them how they would help or give us ideas how to restructure the government. you are dealing with a president who knows not only to pay lip service to fixing the government but knows how to do it in the private sector and is using that experience to drive there and make this a priority a. lot of administrations pay lip service to, this is a priority for this administration. you can call it draining the swamp, whatever you want to, he is trying to rebuild the executive branch of government from a clean sheet of paper. that's exciting. >> nick mulvaney, whenever you want to come on and talk about the nitty-gritty when it will
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>> white house pressing is sean spicer is at the center of controversy over this statement. >> you know, you had a, you know, someone as despicable as hitler who didn't even sink to using chemical weapons. he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that assad is doing it.
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>> spicer later apologized to say hitler didn't use chemical weapons or gas. our next guest says that's not enough. stephen gold steen is the director of the anne frank center of mutual respect. what are you calling for? >> he's got to leave. president trump has to fire sean spicer, it took him three apology attempts to finally sort of get it right? >> it did? he came on with wolf blitzer yesterday in which he said, i used an inappropriate and insensitive reference to the holocaust. no comparison, i apologize, it was a mistake. >> absolutely. you know what happened between that, as he is press briefing, he made a statement, then later he made it worse then after his press briefing he made it worse. finally it was an outcry. finally he went on wolf blitzer and apologized t. problem with sean spicer and this administration is, they don't have the dna of compassion. and they don't have the dna of
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the knowledge of history. and i come from a people who lost 6,000 people a day gassed in auschwitz. any greater know what is sean spicer should know. is shakopee spicer not very smart or very competent? in either case, he should not be the spokesperson for the president of the united states. >> there are other people, we just had ari fleischer on, a former press secretary. he is also on the board of the jewish republican committee. >> uh-huh. >> he was taking a more forgiving tone towards what sean spicer has to deal with, look, people speak extraneously, let my play for you what ari fleischer said. >> he apologized. he did the right thing to just come out and apologize, you know the notion that this is somehow nefarious or indicative of holocaust denial, i dismiss. i think that's the normal washington, somebody you don't like and when the party you don't like says something you
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don't like, you say the worst things about him. that's not sean and i know that for a fact. >> ari fleischer, what a crock. here's the problem. it took massive pressure to get that apology. he didn't apologize to wolf blitzer just a few minutes before. that was the third attempt and frankly, how can we have a man speak for president trump who doesn't know basic history? how can possibly our sean spicer press for the president not understand what happened at auschwitz. how do you have that lack of knowledge? alisyn, you, chris or anyone in this country could never have made that mistake. you would have learned better in 6th grade. >> so you think this is a lack of knowledge, not just a gaffe? >> here's the problem, here's what we need to physical out. we need to look at the history of the trump administration so far. remember they did not acknowledge jews in holocaust remembrance. >> if it doesn't fit. >> so that was a mistake.
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how many mistakes are we supposed to forgive? listen, i would forgive one mistake, but when you have a pattern of mistakes, about the holocaust, and a lack of response to anti-semitism, something's up that goes beyond the mistake. >> thank you very much for being on "new day" with your perspective. we'll see what happens. cnn "newsroom" picks up after this very quick break. i'm see you tomorrow.
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never again russia draws a red line for the united states on syria. the u.s. secretary of state stayed behind closed doors in moscow at this hour a. crucial uncomfortable and unpredictable meeting. >> so what was he talking about anyway? a cnn exclusive, cnn inside theer says they see nothing that the obama white house collected information on trump campaign officials and an ad advisor to the trump campaign investigated as a possible russian agent? a new report says the fbi had their eye on him for months. good morning, everyone, i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. in a new interview, president vladimir putin spoke about the dire terms back and forth with the united states saying quote the working lev

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