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house whiplash. on nato, saying it was obsolete, then and now. >> nato is obsolete, it's over 67 years old, it is, many countries doesn't cover terrorism, it covers the soviet union, which is no longer in existence. and nato has to be either rejiggered, rechanged -- for the better. >> the secretary general and i had a productive discussion about what more nato can do in the fight against terrorism. i complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism. i said it was obsolete, it's no longer obsolete. >> for the record, nato did respond to terrorism. and have fought and died on terrorism. china was a currency manipulator and he was going to call them out. tough talk. he got a lot of applause during
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rallies on the campaign trail. let's look then and now. >> china, which has been ripping us off, the greatest abuser in the history of this country. china has been ripping us -- i have many friends in china, they agree with me 100%. they can't imagine, they can't even believe that they can get away with what's happening. president xi wants to do the right thing, we had a very good bonding, i think we had a very good chemistry together. i think he wants to help us with north korea. we talked trade, we talked a lot of things and i said the way you're going to make a good trade deal is to help us with north korea, otherwise we're just going to go it alone, and that will be all right too. but going it alone means going with lots of other nations. >> going it alone actually doesn't mean going with any other nations. president trump urged no intervention in syria. in russia, donald trump said he had a relationship with vladimir
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putin and could work with russia to fight terror, today the relationship is at an all-time low. let's look at then and now. >> we're going to have a great relationship with russia and putin. we're not getting along now, we may be at an all-time low in the relationship with russia. >> the scope of the changes are literally global. now, in fairness, when circumstances change, people expect a president to change with them. and perhaps what they're hearing reflects that. still, it is rather breathtaking and it extends to domestic polly as well. steve bannon, the president's chief strategist has gone from a trusted confidant to someone the president won't defend in public. we begin with foreign policy director jim acosta. joins us now at the white house with the very latest. certainly different talk from the president today than we have heard for a -- well, than we have ever hear. >> reporter: absolutely,
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anderson, this was a pretty big departure from what we heard from president trump out on the campaign trail. he described relations between the united states and russia at an all-time low, he even suggested at one point during this press conference that russia might have had prior knowledge of that chemical weapons attack carried out by the syrians last week that prompted those air strikes that were ordered by the president. but one thing the president declined to comment on, is president bought putin. perhaps bashar al assad's biggest backer. here's what the president had to say about all of that today. >> it would be wonderful, as we were discussing just a little while ago, if nato and our country could get along with russia. right now we're not getting along with russia at all. but we're going to see what happens. putin is the leader of russia, russia is a strong country, we're a very, very strong country. we're going to see how that all works out. >> reporter: and so anderson, you heard there, the president not really willing again to criticize vladimir putin, even
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though he was pressed on that a couple of times during that news conference, but the entire time i've covered donald trump both as a candidate and as president, i have never seen as many reversals either from a public policy stand point or foreign policy standpoint. from nato to china. this is a president who was doing a lot of 180s today. >> it's not that president trump said i was wrong about nato then, i realize that they are, you know, that they aren't obsolete, he's indicating that something major has changed when in fact, you know, you can argue whether nato is doing enough on terrorism or had this inner structure to do enough, but nato responded to the 911 attacks as the secretary general of nato said today in front of the president. >> reporter: that's right. i think you heard the secretary general get at why president donald trump was changing his mind, changing his view on nato, you are hearing about nato partners contributing more of their money, they're supposed to meet that 2% of gdp, the
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secretary general said more nations are meeting that threshold, so that may be persuading president trump to change his mind somewhat and the president indicated at one point during the news conference that he sort of takes credit for that because he railed against that during the campaign. >> he certainly did and he's been consistent with that, we should say. it's interesting, regarding syria, time and time again, donald trump when he was a citizen, you know, was railing against the idea of intervening in syria. today and in the past several days, not only has he intervened in syria, but he seems to be saying that the u.s. should have intervened militarily back when he was priorly saying that the u.s. should not be intervening militarily. bark when he was prior saying, the u.s. should not be intervening militarily. >> that's right, a lot of contradictions there today. he said earlier today, if we had done this during the obama administration, we wouldn't be in this shape right now.
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but of course, president trump when he was citizen trump, was urging president obama to stay out of syria, i think there was a tweet that said the exact words stay out of syria, but what you heard the president say was a pretty big shift on al assad, today he called him a butcher. that's an indication that bashar al assad uses chemical weapons again, he will invite another retaliatory strike by the united states. but when you talk to senior administration officials, they will tell you going into syria is not their priority. that's something the president said earlier today, we're not going into syria. they're priority is isis. which opens the door for cooperation with russia. >> thanks. as all of that was playing out in drama, there was a high stakes drama in moscow where secretary of state tillerson was
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waiting, perhaps not to have a meeting with vladimir putin. a two hour meeting did finally happen between the u.s. secretary of state and vladimir putin. so yesterday it was unclear if president putin would meet with secretary tillerson, they did in fact meet, do we know how it went? what was discussed? >> reporter: this was four hours in total of meeting, that's a lot of time to focus on the most urgent problems, mostly syria, some north korea, even the russian meddling in the u.s. election came up, but they were looking for any areas that they could find of common ground, i mean even just re-establishing some constructive dialogue would be a positive. here's tillerson on the relationship. >> i expressed the view that the current state of u.s.-russia relations is at a low point. there's a low level of trust between two our two countries. the world's foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. >> reporter: what came out of this was about as much as was likely to. an agreement to keep on talking at the highest levels, a working group to focus on the most critical issues and reopening
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the lines of communications that keeps u.s. and russian planes from getting in each other's way over syria, all of those are pluses, but even in the statements today where they're trying to show, you know, a hope of cooperation, what keeps breaking through are evidence of the deep divisions that are very much still there, it's not clear that those can be resolved or even how much time that would take. >> and secretary tillerson as you mentioned addressed russia's interference in the united states elections. how did his counterpart respond? >> reporter: it was clear that tillerson didn't want to hit this too hard, but he wanted to make his point, he said the fact that russia meddled in the u.s. election is fairly well established in the u.s., he did call it a serious issue that could lead to more sanctions, but that immediately caused the russian foreign minister to go defensive, saying tillerson never threatened new sanctions and he never brought up any hard
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evidence, launching into this speech about how there isn't evidence, show us the evidence and calling accusations slanderous attacks, anderson? >> all right, michelle kosinsky. in moscow tonight. more now, the president shifting views on nato and russia. he admitted to doing a 180. taking credit for making it possible. and like so much else today, it's a far cry from what he said before. >> do you think the united states needs to rethink u.s. involvement in nato? >> yes, because it's costing us too much money. number one nato is obsolete, number two, the countries in nato are not paying their fair share. it's obsolete and we pay too much money. it's obsolete. in my opinion, nato is obsolete. here's the problem with nato, it's obsolete. it's 67 years, or over of 0 years old, what i said to wolf blitzer that nato was obsolete, i got attacked.
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three days later people who study nato say, you know, trump is right. >> today's a different story, just before air time i spoke about it to our professionals. tony blinken and christian amanpour. it's hard not to kind of have a whiplash with all of this. i mean, obviously politicians say one thing when they're running for office, something else entirely when they're president of the united states. but so many 180s in just a matter of days. >> yes, and i actually described his epiphany on syria as a complete 108 and that was exactly a week ago today. but obviously this is a man who had no foreign policy experience, and he's in office with all the major issues coming at him almost all at once. so, of course, he's grappling with the reality of what's in front of him. he has some very good advisers. he has very good national security adviser, very good secretary of defense. secretary of state is new to foreign policy in that regard.
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but he's evolving as these situations are evolving. the question is, does it evolve into strategy and a real policy, whether it's over syria, with russia, or is it knee jerk reactions and responses to what's needed at the moment? >> tony, i can't help but think of the other republican candidates during the primary who were listening to then citizen donald trump spouting off talking about china being a currency manipulator and all these things he's going to do, and things they wouldn't say, but it helped get him elected. and now that he's president, he basically reverses himself on them. >> it has to be a little painful for them. i think christiane is right. anybody to be fair, confronts reality in office that they didn't have to deal with while they were trying to get elected. but with president trump it's something else. this now puts a premium on three things he's not been interested
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in. people, process and policy. you have to have the right people in place to deal with all of these incoming problems. you have to have a process in place, and in the case of foreign policy, centered around the national security council, to actually develop the ideas, and then you have to decide on a policy. everyone around the same table. and speaking it with the same voice, and implementing it. so a lot of the things that he's disdained at least to date, turn out to be really important when you deal with these real life situations. >> i guess -- i don't know why, but doesn't it seem hypocrite cam to run in one thing, and get yourself elected and then basically take positions which all the people you were running against had, but they couldn't say -- they were sort of trying to be presidential as they were running. were they just mistaken to do that? >> well, you know, as a candidate myself, i think you should stick to what you say you're going to do, you should do that.
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>> certainly worked well for me. i will tell you this, though, some of these changes i find heartening, that when you sit in the first healey mackerel briefing that the president gets over a period of time with all of the realtime information coming in about the complexities of the international challenges and by the way, they're ramping up at a pretty hefty pace here, the reality starts to sink in. you don't get to march out in the direction you thought you were going to. our enemies and adversaries and even our allies get a vote on this. and they're voting in a different way, and what heartened me actually in the last couple weeks, he took that information, he digested it, he had those people around him like general mattis, secretary mattis now. and they walked him through it.
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to that end i was encouraged by that. >> i get the encouragement, i just -- you're all very forgiving, i guess. i mean, this is a guy who was calling everybody suckers and idiots and morons for their positions and attacking people who had very thought out positions and new answered positions and were trying to be responsible in what they said, and would just say pretty much anything. and if you challenged him would call you an idiot. and now suddenly he's drinking the tea with everybody else. >> anderson, you're talking about his domestic opponents during the campaign. let's go over to europe and talk about the head of nato. the chancellor of germany, all these people, the president of china, all these people who he also launched and hurled huge amounts of abuse at, and nobody could even believe that he would be elected having done that. >> even the unemployment numbers, they were all fake, they were all rigged. and now all of a sudden, they're
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real. it just -- there's a -- >> anderson, no one -- >> it goes to another challenge. >> there's another problem, anderson, and it's this. right now, the president, secretary of state are trying to rally the world to deal with the serious ew. and deal with the misinformation campaign that the russians are running, and assad is running to deny responsibility for using chemical weapons. in a moment like this, your credibility is at a premium. you're trying to convince everyone, and unfortunately, i think the president's propagation repeatedly of fake news, of misinformation. of distortions, undermines the credibility he needs at a critical time in dealing with a national security problem. >> i think that's absolutely right. and you know there is a #hoaxchemicalsinsyria. whatever it is. you live by the sword, you die by the sword sometimes in these situations. we have to hope you can call it hypocrisy, someone can call it a learning curve, whatever. we have to hope as a country and
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as a world that the president of the most important country in the world is educatable on the job. that he isn't just so cleved to his own preconceived ideas, that something's not going to move, because if he was, it would be a disaster with russia. it would be a disaster in syria, and a looming disaster in north korea. and we still don't know whether there's any emerging strategy. and i think that's a very important point. >> we have to take a quick break. we'll have more of the conversation when we come back. speaking of reversals, a new development in the story of the guy guy dragged off the united flight. this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today.
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manipulator, the greatest in the world. >> china's a grand master, like a grand master chess player, they're a grand master at currency manipulation. >> label china a currency manipulator. >> label china a currency manipulator. >> they are the greatest currency manipulators ever. >> today president trump said he would not do that at all. what he said on the campaign, i asked mike rodgers about it, and how he explains the president's change of views. >> president trump said after listening to the chinese president explain the history of china and north korea for about ten minutes he realized it's not so easy. i mean -- is that -- i don't -- i don't know why i'm reacting
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like this. >> he said the same thing about healthth care. that nobody knew health care could be so complicated. but in fact, everybody knew it was really really complicated. i guess as a republican, do you worry that he has no real positions, that basically he bends one way or the other, depending on who the last person who gave him a 10 minute lecture on the history of some country is. the nato guy was here today, now nato is indispensable many when the nato guy leaves is that still going to be the position? >> obviously i cannot speak for the -- >> i don't know why i'm reacting like this. >> you know why? it's frustrating for those of us who are national security players who in the campaign had different positions than president trump. >> looking at where we are today. >> when you said to him, you can't take the oil, you -- i said to him in interviews, what
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do you mean take the oil. he would say you're an idiot, you don't understand. you can't take the oil, and you knows that, and he probably knew it then. anyway, sorry. >> i'll tell you where i'm concerned going-forward. he was masterful in touching the frustrations with a lot of americans about washington, d.c., and how broken it is and all of that. now i worry about this, because he did come in and was very distrustful of the state department. they haven't staffed it up in a way, where somebody knows where to call in a crisis, year, we're worried about russia and north korea. there's a lot of other issues out there for a lot of other heads of state who will say, i don't know who to call. >> i think it was important the 180 he did with the secretary-general of nato. he did say, he was a strong
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supporter of nato. it's massively important today as they're trying to challenge and face down vladimir putin that he stands with the secretary of nato, who he's been compromising in his support, so vladimir putin can see we can't drive a wedge between the united states and his nato allies. >> that's very important. >> he said that about nato after vice president pence went over and backed up nato. on the campaign trail it was a different story. >> this is important today too, i think it may have led to the currency manipulation about face that came out. china turned around the cole ships from north korea, that's a big deal. it's not getting a lot of play. they didn't do it unilaterally. you know there's lots of conversations behind something like that happening, that hurts north korea significantly. they don't have a lot of exports
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they can get cash for. turning those ships around and having the president say, we'll do it alone if we have to, but we'd like to have you as part of a coalition to deal with this. i think all of that shows you're growing up in this diplomacy department. and it's important. >> during the campaign, he talked and has been consistent about nato countries paying their fair share, and that's something the nato secretary-general talked about today and it's been a through line, he continues to focus on that. i don't want it to sound like everything is a 180, but it's been a fascinating day. tony blinken -- >> you noticed anderson, the president said that basically he's fixed nato in the last couple months since he's been in office, so now it's indispensable. >> it's not just about now paying their fair share, which
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he wants the back money. the nato secretary-general seemed offput by that one. >> everybody who's a serious observer of foreign policy was saying that when the president becomes president and is inaugurated. if he wants help for the chinese with north korea, he's not going to be able to call them a currency manipulator. people were predict iing -- a greater sense of reality. >> tony blinken. mike rodgers, thank you. >> coming up, is steve bannon the latest persona nongrat ta. he was asked if he had confidence in bannon. he said i like steve but -- to those who know
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who? more now from brianna keilar. >> president trump's chief strategist publicly dressed down by the boss. i like steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign until very late. i had already beaten all the senators and all the governors and i didn't know steve. i'm my own strategist. it wasn't like i was going to change strategies because i was facing crooked hillary. when asked about in fighting, trump said, steve is a good guy, but i told them to straighten it out or i will. >> i think the president was sending a strong message, knowing him, he's also said in private, i don't like this bickering, enough already, and get your act together. >> the rebuke comes one week after bannon was dumped from the national security council. a sign his influence on trump's foreign policy has diminished. >> i happen to believe he's the
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greatest public speaker in those arenas. >> bannon interviewed trump for breitbart radio in 2015, when he was heading up the far right media conglomerate zbh we have to keep our talented people 234 this country. i think you agree with that. >> when 2/3 or 3/4 of the ceo's are from south asia or asia. on occasion -- on my point is that a country is more like sessions, a country is more than an economy. we're a civic society. >> less than one year later, bannon was heading up trump's campaign. orchestrating some of its most outrageous moments. like this photo op, just before a presidential debate, with women who had accused bill clinton of assault. bannon looking on. in the white house, he was instrumental in trump's travel ban. >> i said, we will get the criminals out, the drug lords, the gang members, we're getting
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them out. >> it wasn't just the infighting that frustrated trump. >> it was also the frequent suggestion portrayed here on saturday night live that bannon was his puppet master. >> okay, donald, that's enough fun for tonight. can i have my desk back? >> yes, mr., i'll go sit at my desk. >> he called reports of infighting overblown. bannon is a guy who works for me and reiterated that he, donald trump is his own strategist. anderson? >> plenty to talk about with the panel. i hardly know them i mean i like them, but -- david gregory, kirstin powers. it's pretty -- you see bannon played a critical role in donald trump i think it's fair to say getting him in the white house. what the president had said, if
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i was steve bannon, i would think that's -- that's stunning. >> it's stunning and also bad, because it puts blood in the water. you do that in washington -- >> to do this publicly. >> yeah, to do it publicly. i think any time as an adviser in the white house, if you get too big, bigger than the principle, bigger than the president, you get into trouble. especially if you are the one who's manipulating what's really going on. if you're the darth vader as cheney was reputed to be. it just causes a lot of tension. in this case, i think it's even more true with president trump who doesn't like to be upstaged at all and doesn't like to be perceived as being managed. but he does get managed, and he gets managed 17 different ways in this white house. and in this case, i think he's kept bannon around as the keeper of the fringe in his conservative movement,
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unfortunately, i think bannon has made him look bad in some areas and it's catching up with him. >> bannon has a movement of his own from breitbart. if the president jettison's him, there will be trouble. >> you want steve bannon inside the tent. >> right. safer to have lbg inside not outside. >> steve bannon has been put in his place, i think that his importance has been minimized, steve bannon may choose to leave on his own as he's threatened to do reportedly already. i don't think you cult him loose, i think you keep him somewhere, even if you curtail his role. >> we heard so much during the campaign, how loyalty was important to donald trump, it seems like this white house distances themselves.
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you know, paul manafort was just a guy who had been around for a couple days. he was the guy who managed the campaign. >> we saw this with cory luan dow ski, who was someone who helped him in the early stages of the campaign. the loyalty with donald trump flows one way. you need to be loyal to donald trump. he doesn't feel the need to be loyal. the family seems to play that role for him. he's very tight with his family, and anybody outside of them he's willing to dispense with if things don't go the way he wants them to. >> the problem is, bannon got too big and made trump look too small he's starting to see a lot of the stuff banning was pushing him to do wasn't working out, it was working badly for him, and he's moving into people who have a little more experience, a little more mainstream, and seems to be following that lead.
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>> bannon seemed to be behind the executive order on the travel ban. >> welcome to the world of the white house staff mr. bannon. look, let me just adrs if i can, kirstin's point about loyalty. we were on the air this summer at the convention, when we learned that melania trump's speech had been plagiarized to some degree. and i was somewhat steamed about that and said something mild like i thought whoever it was should be taken on the public square and drawn and quartered. the person who was responsible for this was meredith mcgyver. she later learned i think -- i'm not revealing anything here, she went to him, fessed up, apologized to him, offered her resignation, he refused to take it and said we all make mistakes, i do think he has loyalty down as well as expecting loyalty up.
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you do get into the situation in the white house, i have been there, what david was talking about was correct. it's a death blow, i well remember that time in the clinton era, president powers. you don't go there, and if the press wants to put you there, back away. >> michael dever on the phone in the back of the limo. >> the president called him and said, you made a mistake. >> the other dynamic here is the rise of the trump family. >> what's going to be challenging. even if bannon doesn't leave. you never want to hire someone you can't fire. essentially ivanka and jared's roles are expanding in the white house. it could become tricky and awkward with the family dynamic. a former trump adviser gives his take in his dealings with rush dwra and his own path to the trump campaign.
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former trump foreign policy adviser carter page is speaking out about a report that the fbi obtained a fisa warrant last
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august to monitor his communications. the report quotes unnamed officials by saying the fbi got the war around the by convincing the judge page was acting as a foreign agent with russia. >> the washington post has reported that wlft year the fbi went to a judge and argued successfully there was probable cause to believe that you were acting as an agent for a foreign government about so my question is, were you? >> of course i wasn't, jake. this is -- it's just such a joke that it's beyond words. >> have you ever conveyed to anyone in russia that you think president trump might have been more willing to get rid of the sanctions that were imposed against russia after they invaded and seized crimea? which i know are sanctions that you oppose and think are ineffective? did you ever talk with anyone there about maybe president trump, if he were elected would
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be willing to get rid of the sanctions? >> never any direct conversations such as that. look, it's -- >> what do you mean direct conversations, i don't know what that means? >> i'm just saying, no. that was never said, no. >> you never said that to anybody, that you think that if donald trump won, he might be willing to get rid of the sanctions against russia? >> no. >> page, you may recall has offered to testify against the investigation. candidate trump named his foreign policy advisers. it's unclear how much of an adviser he really was, because according to him, he never actually met donald trump or was in a meeting with him. randi kaye has more. >> you speak russian? >> yeah. >> really? >> i get by, i can understand what's happening in meetings. >> some of those meetings may be exactly why the fbi and the justice department are so
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interested in communications between carter page and russia. page is a former foreign policy adviser for donald trump's campaign. >> i was a junior member of the campaign's foreign policy advisory group. >> that's what he says. but for months now, president trump's team has been struggling to define his role. even going so far as to deny he was part of the circle. >> he's not part of our national security or foreign policy briefings that we do now. >> carter page is an individual that the president-elect does not know. >> i don't think i've ever spoken to him. i don't think i've ever met him. >> he never briefed the president personally. there's no doubt he was part of the campaign. and he looks to be part of the investigation into trump associates ties to the kremlin before the election. carter page's history with russia goes back to 1991 as the soviet union was breaking up. he had become interested in the region as a young boy and later
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enrolled in the u.s. naval academy. he moved on to investment banking, landing a job at merrill lynch in london. years later he was tapped to open the office in russia. even though page moved back to new york a few years later, to start his own global energy investment firm, he never severed ties with russia. just months after page was named as a trump adviser, he praised vladimir putin at this policy meeting in washington, d.c.. even subjecting a trump presidency would be good for u.s./russia relations. a month later during a trip to moscow to give a speech, page allegedly met with russian nationals who had been sanctioned with the u.s. >> did you have any meetings last year with russian officials in russia, outside russia? anywhere? >> i had no meetings, no
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meetings. >> what about igorsechin, head of the oil company owned mostly by the russian government. page denied meeting him, but an unverified dossier claims that page secretly met with sechin in moscow and exchanged a deal that trump would lift sanctions if elected. >> was there ever an offer that helped lift the sanctions, you would get something out of it? >> no. >> was there any offer like that? >> no offer whatsoever, no hint of an offer. no pathway to anything resembling an offer or even a discussion. on these range of issues. >> you would get something. if you got the sanctions lifted? >> not something -- not something worth a dollar, let alone something worth billions of dollars. >> any allegations that you coordinated or included with russians during the campaign,
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you deny? >> not only do i deny it, it's so false that it's -- you know, completely -- it's a joke. >> in fact, despite the intelligence communities finding that russia did try to influence the u.s. election. carter page said no one in russia ever spoke to him about hacking or deal making. he called the allegations a political stunt. and wrote a letter to the department of justice alleging the clinton campaign took part in hate crimes and human rights abuses against him during the election season. randi kaye, cnn new york. coming up, a breaking development, the united arlgs dragging story. we'll tell you about a new gesture on the part of the airline. new video that might seem to contradict the ceo's claims calling the passenger belligerent. and now. i'm back! aleve pm for a better am.
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says cops will no longer pull paying customers off its planes when it's sold. it took a viral video to get him to say it. all the passengers on the flight will be reimbursed for their tickets. two passengers tell cnn united called them to apologize and tell them they would get their money back. new developments, rene marsh has details.
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>> reporter: day three of the united airlines fallout after one of its passengers is dragged off an oversold flight. the airline's ceo is now facing the camera. >> the first thing i think is important to say is to apologize to dr. now, the family, the passengers on that fligt. oscar says he felt the video was shame ffl. he pledged the airline would never call law enforcement to remove a customer who's already seated ever again. and when asked if the passenger was at fault? >> no, he can't be.
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he was a paying passenger sitting on our seat, in our aircraft and nobody should be treated that way, period. >> reporter: a major shift in tone. new video leading up to the incident contradicts that. >> no, i am not going. i am not going. i'm not going. i'll stay right there. >> he was defiant, but did not appear disruptive. meantime haze attorneys signaled a potential lawsuit, asking the court to require the airline and chicago police to preserve what they call crucial evidence including surveillance video of passengers boarding the flight. the incident has sparked a bipartisan call for action. >> to be seated and then dragged off the plane physically it's outrageous. and that's why i've asked the
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administration, the trump administration to say stop the overbooking until we set some more strict rules how members of the airlines conduct themselves. >> reporter: senator menendez who signed one of those letters says congress is prepared to act. >> if we do allow them to overbook, it seems to me we have to reign in how they deal with the consequences of overbooking. >> reporter: the senate commerce committee tells cnn it's considering a hearing on the issue. >> renee marks joins us. now, renee have the officers faced any repercussions. >> they announced that two additional officers linked to the incident, they have been placed on administrative leave, bringing the total officers on separative leave to three.
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i also want to highlight that the airline's ceo today, he blamed himself for not providing the staff with the quote, proper tools, policy, and procedures that would allow them to use their common sense. anderson. >> renee, thanks very much. coming up on another hour of 360 president trump does a reversal today happening at the white house. nexium 24hr is the #1 choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. for all day and all night protection... banish the burn... with nexium 24hr. ♪
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been a day of foreign policies 180s for president trump. compared to what he said as a candidate or before that as just another guy with a twitter account on nato, china, syria and russia, perhaps most vividly on russia, which has not been a quick 180 but a certain, well -- seems a complete 180. on nato donald trump said it was obsolete. president trump said it no longer is. donald trump said china was a currency manipulator. today he said it's not a currency manipulator at all. he urged against intervention in syria. today, of course, president trump called assad a butcher and holds out the possibility of more strikes. it's rather striking and it has been playing out in moscow as well as in washington. we begin this hour with michelle kosinski in moscow. >> reporter: four hours of crucial, contentious talks with