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telling us. we have our satellite back. >> isis has murdered male family members, kidnapped wives and daughters and forced them. >> all right. we're having satellite issues. we are monitoring the press briefing. let's bring in barbara starr from the pentagon. >> good morning to both of you. one of the interesting things general nichols said at the beginning is no u.s. casualties on the ground. at first light, u.s. and afghan forces are at the site to determine what the impact has been. i think we have the satellite feedback now. >> killed and wounded hundreds of innocent civilians. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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>> they have sent suicide bombers in mosques and murdered people during prayer. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> and just last month, they shot and stabbed hospital patients lying in their beds. they are animals. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> the afghan army and specifically their commandos are leading this fight against these
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barbaric terrorists. they are doing it on behalf of afghanistan and indeed, they are doing it on behalf of all of us. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> the united states is committed to afghanistan in this fight. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> we are united with the afghan government to prevent terrorists from establishing safe havens in afghanistan. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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>> the u.s. coordinated with the government of afghanistan to conduct yesterday's operation just as we have since we started these operations in early march. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> okay. we were just listening to general john nicholson. he is the commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan. we will bring back barbara starr. >> let's explain for a minute of the press conference. you hear the afghan translator. general nicholson is having the conference in kabul mainly for the afghan press to explain the mission to the people of afghanistan. important part of the coalition. what he told us is afghan and
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u.s. troops are back on the ground at the remote site in eastern afghanistan looking at the damage caused by the bomb being dropped. right now, they don't see any evidence of civilian casualties on the ground. they are trying to assess did they get after the target they wanted. the afghan government has said 36 isis fighters killed. a number of tunnels and ammunition destroyed. what helps us understand is why the u.s. and why general nicholson decided to use this massive bomb. 21,000 pounds. the largest non-nucleconvention bomb used to date. it is a complex of kafs acaves tunnels they were going after in an area. they wanted to get to the very widespread target. a more conventional bomb.
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you drop it, it explodes right to the target. this was a diffused target, if you will. this was an air blast detonation. it blasts out. the killing of the people or target you are going after is caused by the concussive blast. general nicholson had the authority to use this bomb at his discretion. something obviously was kept quiet and the question, of course, did president trump have to authorize it specifically? was donald trump informed? we saw president trump asked about that yesterday. he was somewhat careful not to be specific. he talked about the fact he has authorized the military to do missions that they deem necessary. i think it is important to say it is unlikely that the white
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house didn't know anything about this. you do see a president who is authorizing military commanders more and more to take on the responsibility to order the missions as they see fit. i can tell you, i talked to a number of commanders who say that may be the case, but they will still make sure the white house and president trump is informed. >> general nicholson calling this the right weapon for the right target. noting the u.s. and afghan forces are on the scene of the bomb blast. they see no evidence and heard no reports of civilian casualties. barbara starr, thank you. afghanistan right now. not the only hot point in the world. world on high alert with mounting concerns of north korea could conduct a sixth nuclear test this weekend. china is warning conflict could break out as the rhetoric is intensifying. we have cnn's alexandra field live in soeoul.
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>> reporter: good morning, john. washington is saying it is not a question of if, but when north korea will conduct the sixth nuclear test. the other question is how the u.s. will react. that is one of the reasons that vice president mike pence is traveling to the region. he will talk to colleagues in seoul and japan and talking about the options about how to deal with the nuclear threats coming from north korea. as they said, looking at the military options that could exist. they sent war ships off the waters of korean peninsula. the move has enraged pyongyang. the presence of nuclear assets in the region threatens global security and peace and could push the region to the brink of thermo-nuclear war. they have been pumping out pictures of kim jong un commanding exercises and
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training exercises involving the special forces there. we are coming up on the most important day on the north korea calendar. celebration of the founder's birthday. that is tomorrow. it is important. in the past, north korea timed provocative actions to coincide with the holiday and a show of force and demonstration for the world. john and alisyn, officials in the u.s. say based on the observation, they believe pyongyang is ready to conduct the sixth nuclear test any moment. we expect it would come without warning. >> alexandra, thank you for that reporting from south korea for us. we have a lot to talk about. let's bring in the panel. we have political analysts abby phillip and david drucker. we are retired general james "spider" marks. i want to start with you, "spider." the mother of all bombs was
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dropped. moab. a pentagon official says this is a weapon of psychological operations because of the message. the biggest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed by the u.s. what do you see having happened here? >> the message to the guys that were under the bomb, you made a bad choice. it not only has an amazing psychological advantage, but it really is a connectic weapon system. it has an air burst in the conical shape and concussive shape. you can imagine anyone in the tunnel system, gets a shock wave and crushes them in a second. it is a weapon system that exists within the arsenal. based on the conditions on the ground, he has complete authority to use it. he made a decision based on the
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criticality of the target and intelligence he had. made a decision to conduct that. then clearly what he described in the news conference we just saw is that they are conducting -- afghan forces and u.s. forces together are conducting battle assessment. confirming zero cau.s. casualti. and looking to get information from the strike. >> general nicholson said he felt it was the right weapon for the target. donald trump said his generals have total authority to conduct military operations around the world. general nicholson has authority to drop it without notification. what is behind the strategy right now from the trump administration? the military commanders have authority over this. they can do what they want. what does that mean for the
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civilian control of the military? >> well, you know, this white house is looking back at the predecessor, president obama, who had a reputation of having a lot of control over the operational activity of the military. wanting to authorize strikes and wanting to be involved in the decision making process. trump is taking a different track. he believes the military should be left to their own devices to do what they need to do. i don't think you should equate that necessarily to trump not being aware of what's going on. the question is who is making the final decision. trump has clearly said he will take a step back. at the same time, though, there is a reason why we have civilian control of the military. one of the reasons is to sort of have a check on the instincts of military commanders who are in the forces at the moment. there is going to be a point at
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which trump has to express some leadership over the situation making really tough decisions. sometimes it might contradict the advice the military leaders are giving them. >> david, i think you talked about this on the campaign trail. he talked about in the field that our military commanders felt ham strung. he was going to untether them. give them the autonomy. one of the questions is if something goes terribly wrong as it is in the yemen raid where scores of civilians were killed. then whose responsibility is it? >> i think the president will own successes and failures over time. regardless if he gave specific orders or not. i think what we are seeing from the white house is we're on more of a war footing than a police action footing. i think president obama doesn't get create times for the activity the military was
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involved in overseas, he gave the go ahead for. there was a sense from his white house we were downplaying international threats and international terrorism and trying to keep them at a low level. i think what president trump is doing, not unlike really president george w. bush, elevating the fight symbolically and both from military standpoint and treating it more as though a war that we're fighting and not simply low level police action. that's what we're seeing in terms of the use of the new ordnance which was used yesterday. >> look at the context of the last seven days, "spider." the missile strike. we know friendly fire as well. we know a lot of military action
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around the world. these ships going off the korean peninsula right now. if you are kim jong un looking at the bomb blast in afghanistan, do you think, the trump administration, it just might act against me? >> north korea is continual agrieved. they assume tensions are so high that they are at the brink of fire or disaster. whatever description you want to use. the issue here is the tension on north korea is where it -- on the peninsula is where routinely is. the fact that "the carl vinson" is in the sea of japan is quite normal. there is nothing unprecedented about that. the obligation we have is the coalition in south korea and allies in the region is to ensure we ratchet that down. north korea will always do the best to pump air into this and a
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lot of voluatility where it doe not actually exist. of course, you can draw conclusion that the united states used moab in afghanistan. there is no reason to use it in north korea. there is no increased tension to cause us to use that. kim jong un simply is making a political statement, which he does as matter of routine. guys, if i can, absolutely. i want to make sure that there isn't this cavalier discussion. i'm not suggesting it is. military understands it works for civilian bosses. the civilian control of the military is no -- it is crystal clear. we understand. >> don't you think they feel they have more autonomy to make decisions? >> no. it's always been like this. you have authority. you have a weapon system. you have authority. you have assessment you make. authority is delegated down to
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you and if not, you do a mother may i and ask the question up the chain of command. in this case, everybody knew this weapon system was going to be used. it was available. the first time used. the reasonable person standard is let's make the sure the boss and the boss's boss knows. >> this is a choice of circling a place on a map. >> that's right, john. more to discuss. questions of the campaign associated and russians intercepted by intelligence agencies. it is not just the united states that caught them. we have new details coming up.
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so we now know the u.s. intelligence agencies are not the only ones intercepted campaign associates and the russians. british and other european nations captured them as well as shared them with the american counterparts. cnn's pamela brown has more. >> reporter: alisyn, british and
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other agencies intercepted communications with trump associates and russian officials and other russian individuals during the campaign and passed on the communications to the u.s. counterparts. this is according to u.s. and european sources. talking to myself and my colleague jim sciutto. it was captured on routine surveillance of russians and other officials. we know they were on the u.s. radar. this happened over the course of several months. the sources said that british and european intelligence agencies. including gchb and great britain were not targeting the trump team. they picked up the communications during incidental collection of monitoring the russian officials overseas. we healearned the fbi is using s
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during the probe. this information could be passed on to senators on capitol hill involved in the intelligence investigation right now. this is all classified. it would not necessarily be released publicly. it can be used part of the investigation. >> pamela, thank you for that reporting. let's bring back in our panel. we have abby philfilphillip and drucker and cia counterterrorism official phil mudd. the citing of the gchb the intelligence agency in britain. there was an issue of president obama went around the fisa order and used gchb. we now know it was british intel agency that tapped u.s. on the shoulder and saying we are
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finding something that looks suspicious to us. >> time-out. the fox news analysts suggested the british were targeting american politicians. that's a lie. i can't wait to see this play out in washington today and tomorrow. i guarantee there will be some conspiracy theory that's nuts. let me tell you reality. a huge volume of what we call traffic in the intelligence business. e-mail, phone. that includes russians, chinese, iranians. think of this as burden sharing. americans don't want to collect all of it. maybe the british collect the same stuff. they have agreements of what they collect. when they collect it, they share it. in this case, the americans might collect some russian lines. the british collect the others. the british are not looking through it and say how do we target trump people or find trump stuff and pass to the americans. they are passing russian stuff
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in the haystack is some donald trump communications with the russians. incidental collection. i think this is portrayed as conspiracy as it was on fox. that is entirely incorrect. it is intel sharing agreement that includes trump stuff. >> a simple sharing agreement. it means the british know that conversations were going on at some level between trump associates and russians early on. david drucker, this is more stuff. a fisa warrant and this british collection. you think more and more smoke and the facts may be getting stronger and stronger, the impact is less and less as long as the u.s. relationship with russia gets less close by the day. >> exactly. john, i think a lot of what is fueled this fire politically for a long time has been the fact that president trump has coddled
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vladimir putin. he is just as bad as we are. in the past couple weeks, we have seen an administration for recognizing the russians for what they are. a regime trying to undermine the u.s. influence in the world. that is not in the u.s. interest. we saw just a couple days ago a combative news conference with the russian foreign minister [ laughterlaug lavrov and rex tillerson. when you have these emerging. you have to wonder the president a at the time he ran for office, he is such a blank slate. it is possible associates of his and supporters of his were freelancing and talking to the russians. they shouldn't have been and influencing his foreign policy thought. it will be interesting to see whether or not this will reach closer to him. it could have been he was
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influenced unknowingly which is an issue, but less of an issue if his administration is treating the russians the way they should. if he stops apologizing for putin. >> abby? >> i think we need to keep in mind one of the reasons we're talking about this in the first place is russian interference in the election. one of the quos investigatoques investigators are trying to answer is was there collusion? we don't know the answer to that question. it is a very serious claim and it is one that i think goes beyond the question of are we trying to broker more favorable relationships with russia on the diplomatic stage. i think there is an element here of inafter fet interference in of international scandal.
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that's the core of the point. i think if they were trying to broker a better relationship is not out of bounds of what they would be doing in a campaign or administration. that wouldn't at the end of the day be a problem. whether that was true or not. >> so, interesting development overnight. not disconnected to this. cia director mike pompeo came out hard against the entity that president trump said he once loved. wiki le wikilea wikileaks. mike pompeo says it is a great danger. if we can. if he wi if we have the sound, i want to play it. watch this. >> now this just came out. wikileaks. i love wikileaks. and i said write a couple of them down. >> by the way, wikileaks just
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came out with lots of really unbelievable things. just minutes ago. in fact, i almost delayed this speech by two hours it's so interesting. >> by the way -- >> wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service. it encouraged followers to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. time to call out wikileaks. a non state hostile intelligence service. >> phil mudd, i guess the cap to the week of policy u-turns. all of a sudden, they don't love wikileaks although he campaigned on it. >> i love this stuff. for an intel guy, this is better than netflix. let me tell you how to interpret this. there is a fundamental question when a politician becomes the cia director. that is can he exit from being a
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political person with views on wikileaks that are as you heard to say can i put on an intel lens and discard what i thought six months ago and represent an intel view. i think at langley, they are saying this is a hard-line republican who has certain views in congress and he has the ability to look at information independently and say maybe now i have a different view. let me say why this is important. the iran nuclear deep. mike pompeo was tough on the iran nuclear deal. now the intel guys are saying regardless of what you thought in congress, our thought is if they are complying. this is a clue that says he can. >> one person who hasn't condemned wikileaks yet. >> the president. let's see if he considers it a hostile intelligence service. panel, thank you. president trump swore the united states would not be the
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there is a terrible friendly fire incident. u.s. central command confirms an american led coalition mistakenly killed 18 syrian ally fighters in what they call a quote misdirected air strike. this strike took place tuesday killing members of the syrian democratic forces. that's an assad opposition group supported by the u.s. in the fight against isis. military officials say the target they hit was wrongly identified as isis. the u.s. official tells cnn dozens of u.s. troops deployed to somalia to fight terrorism there. they will train and equipped the service members to fight al shabaab. they took responsibility for killing 15 people in the mini bus. this marks the first time in 23 years that america sent ground troops to ssomalia. donald trump signing a law
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that puts women's health at risk. it reverses the states to withhold federal money for facilities that provide abortions. federal law prohibits from funding abortions. the bulk of cash goes to women's preventive services. donald trump vowed to be america first president. now he is dropping bombs in syria and afghanistan and sending troops to somalia and threatening north korea. what is the military strategy? is there a strategy? we discuss next. ow. really! t's see how quickly you can read through all their awards. (bell ringing) man 2: 2017 motor trend car of the year. kelly blue book 2016 best resale value. 2016 j.d. power highest quality breaking... agh! 10 best... blah blah blah. 2015... only about 90 more to go! that's a lot of awards! chevrolet. the most awarded and fastest growing retail brand in 2016. celebrate with us and get 16% below msrp on select chevy vehicles in stock. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me. i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> that was then. candidate donald trump outlining the strategy for isis. yesterday's use of the moab bomb in afghanistan appears to be exhibit a. joining us is kimberly dosier. and cnn military analyst, retired general mark hertling.
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great to have you both here with all of your experience. general, let me start with you. the moab is certainly bombing the blank out of isis. how do you see what's happened? >> i don't see it that way at all, alisyn. i want to take the breathless commentary out of it. it is a tactical help. he is using this because of the joint munitions guide told him that is the right weapon for that particular area. because it is a big explosion and it fits the in thnarrative mr. trump would bomb the "s" out of everybody, it is a conversation. >> that is good context. we didn't want any breathle breathlessness. we want context, kimberly. here are the things that happened in just president trump's first 85 days.
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look at the military actions. under president trump. some have been lauded as successes. such as the trying on the syrian air base. some are failures. the raid in yemen that went wrong. how do you put it in context? >> i have to second mark and i spoken to officials in afghanistan and they have said that general nicholson requested this munition. he was looking ahead to the fighting season. he saw isis growing. 600 to 800 fighters. most in the district that was hit. he had looked ahead and said i could use this weapon. now is he more comfortable using it with this administration and the last considering the obama administration had a reputation
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for micro managing from the nse. that was the reputation. i think that he would have had a higher comfort level with the trump administration. trump indicated he is comfortable delegating authority down to the military commanders. >> that's very interesting context and news you have given us, kim. if this was requested during the obama administration, that does change the feeling of it. general, what do you feel that president trump says i don't need to know everything they are doing, even moab because i'm giving them a blanket authority. >> he does need to know. if he is putting in as the commander in chief military members in harm's way, he needs to know what is going on. he needs to receive the briefings of what is happens around the world. i push back on the comment that he is loosening the strings.
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you talk to senior commanders. they will say there was nothing stopping us from doing our job. there may be nse staffers who asked questions and were painful with the 6,000-mile screw sddri to protect the operations going on. i talked to all of the commanders in the field and they not feel inhibited. >> that was some of the narrative that we heard. >> by who? >> by republicans. we heard from republicans. >> the people not on the battle field. >> i want you to talk about that. >> i heard jack kingston talk about that. who is telling you that? sergeant smith or general x,
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y or z. if you talk to the people conducting strategy and they are able to do the things they need to do. >> i have to jump in and say that's what i heard as well. they got to where they wanted to go in the syria and iraq strikes against isis. they knew this scrutiny. this 6,000-mile screwdriver you termed it, was on them. that did sometimes make them hesitate or slow them down. i talked to pentagon planners who said it drove them crazy. they felt they were being second guessed. it had a psychological effect. they knew they could not push things that far and it took a while to get approval of operations. they thought they should have the approval faster. with this administration, it is faster. >> alisyn, this is the way it's done. in our system of government and going back to a guy named carl.
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combat warfare is politics means. you cannot divide. some play more actively than others. you cannot divorce the two from each other. >> thank you both very much for the reporting and context. the doctor dragged off the united airlines flight announcing he will sue. requesting millions, but will it ever reach the courts? we will discuss next. althy rn. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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an arizona high school football player making history. getting a scholarship at a division ii school for football. coy wire has the story. >> i'm here at the braves stadium. more on that in a second. we have to talk about the amazing accomplishment of becca longo. the high school kicker from arizona. crushing glass ceilings. she started playing football a couple years ago. when she signed her letter of inn be tetent in colorado, she not believe she has done something no other woman has done before. we caught up with her yesterday.
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>> i was so emotional. i was so grateful that somebody believed in me and i could do it. i'm going to go in and be ready to compete. >> all right. there seems to be an arms race in pro sports stadiums. we had two nfl stadiums with the vikings and rams. i am here at major league baseball new stadium. suntrust park. they went out to create a great fan experience. you have to figure out a way to get people away from the couch and 60-inch flat screen and get to the ballparks. they had zip lining and rock climbing and any food or drink. as far as technology, fastest wifi in the u.s. an app to find the burger or beverage. you can reserve a spot in the zip line. for the opener here, the first
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game in the new stadium will be rocking, john. >> i'll take it, coy. in the next hit, i want to know what was in the burger and how big that massive thing was. mother of all burgers. thank you, coy. this is not a surprise. an epic legal fight brewing between united airlines and this passenger who was dragged off the flight. how can united possibly defend itself? we debate that next. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums in my johnsonville commercial we open up in the forest. hi. i'm jeff. i'm eating my breakfast and all of a sudden a raccoon come up and ask me,
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fmy doctor recommended ibgard. abdominal pain and bloating. now i'm in control of my ibs. nonprescription ibgard-calms the angry gut. what happened to my dad should have never happened to any human being. regardless of the circumstance. we were horrified and shocked and sickened to learn what happened to him and see what happened to him. >> the family of dr. david dao. the man forcibly removed from the united airlines flight. voicing disgust at treatment and
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announcing to sue the airline and the city of chicago. united is promising policy changes by the end of the month. joining me is christine romans and joey jackson. joey, this is a fascinating news conference by the attorneys of the man. broken nose, concussion, lost two front teeth. reconstructive surgery. you predicted already $5 million in the case. >> it goes to the issues of punitive damages that we talked about. compensatory damages to co compensate you. this taps into the critical issue of was this action reasonable? was this action necessary? was it appropriate or was it something else? in the press conference, when we learn of the significance of the injuries, it makes people furious of the airlines. >> that was part two of what was
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fascinating to me. the lawyers for the man didn't just talk about what happened to him and the injuries. talked about the culture at the airlines. listen to this. >> yeah, i would say there is a culture of disrespect of rudeness, but what's unfortunately occurred here if dr. dao's case is rudeness, bullying customers has gone the next step now. to physical injury. >> talk about the business culture with christine in a second. from the legal standpoint, why talk about the culture of the airline? why tap in? >> what you are doing is tapping into the reservoir of discontent. when you do that, you raise the settlement value. this will not see the courtroom. the reality is a business interest, right, in united to get this off the news.
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get us from stop talking about it. so if you really want to tap into it and really want them to turn the page, you elevate the value. you elevate the outrage. you talk about the culture created the conditions for it to occur. >> christine, united announced changes effective april 30th. they will not remove passengers physically. they will handle overbooked flights in other measures. how much trouble is united airlines in? >> the pr damage is significant. a market hit that has since recovered. the pr damage is significant here. how much trouble is it in? what other choices do customers have? so many mergers in the sector, there are four carriers in the united states that control 80% of the flights. most cases, i think customers will choose the airline that gets them where they have to go on time at the price they want. one thing that really angers people. you talk about the reservoir of anger and distrust of the
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airlines. consumer satisfaction ratings are terrible for a long time in the industry as they make record profits. people see smaller planes with tighter seats and all fees. they feel the experience is not what flying should be. >> it is clear united is in a moment where it is sensitive right now and jeopardy. delta. i had a vacation canceled last week. delta's mess. overnight. i got two e-mails. every ticket holder gets a $200 voucher and 20,000 miles. the airlines know there is an issue. >> you do. you see the international airlines are dancing on united's grave. trolling with tweets. they are trying for the international traveler who pays a lot of money. the international airlines want the business from united on the back of this. >> you are at their mercy. that gets more settlement value. people are upset, john. they are upset.
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>> employees of the company. they are upset. they feel the experience for them as gone down. drunk passengers. people arriving late with too many bag bags. >> thank you. christine romans, save travels. thank you for watching to the international viewers. "cnn newsroom" continues for you. for the u.s., "new day" continues. >> this was the right weapon for the right target. >> for the first time ever, the mother of all bombs was used in u.s. military combat. >> we are proud of our military. >> we can't just bomb our way to national security. >> what is the political strategy? what is the objective? >> north korea is indeed ready to pull off the sixth nuclear test. >> bottom line is north korea has to change its behavior. >> if provoked, they are not afraid to go to war. >> ramping up t

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