digital and video evidence where things can be resolved quickly as they have been here. even with that said this is a relatively quick period of time to brit it to an internal conclusion. >> thank you for watching. to those of you celebrating easter, we wish you a very hymn holiday. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >> "out front" breaking news on the brink. north korea threat eniening the. plus new video of the multi-of all bombings. was it the right of wrong weapon? the trump examination announcing it will keep secret who visits the white house. what or who are they trying to hide? good friday evening. i'm erin burnett. out front, the breaking news, we will go to war.

that is the grim threat from north korea tonightthe united states. the retaliation could be massive. president trump declaring north korea a problem that will be taken care of. the vice foreign ministers responding to the associated press saying president trump's actions have been more aggressive and more threatening. this week marks the 105th birthday of the founder of north korea. signs point to the north being primed to conduct its sixth nuclear test. what's president trump doing ability it right now? he's at mar-a-lago golfing in florida. president pence is going to seoul. alexander field begins our coverage in seoul, south carolina. this is a crucial day in north

korea about to get dunds way. >> reporter: the eyes of the world are watching north korea. the question is what happens next. we expect that they will put on this military parade as a show of their military might, but the world is wondering whether or not they'll go a step further, launching a provocative action, a potential sixth nuclear test. analysts say they're primed and ready to carry out the test any moment. it's impossible to predict when a potential launch will happen. how could the u.s. react? summertime ships are in the waters, a move that has enraged pyongyang. they say the presence of the warships threaten global peace and security and could bring the region to the brink of thermo nuclear war. china is calling for cooler heads to prevail. the u.s. vice president mike pence will make his way to south

korea over the weekend. then to japan, squusing all the options washington says are on the table, including the military option. it's a big fear of south korea. >> the president as i said, as this is happening, playing golf in florida. atheen aip jones is out front at the white house. >> president trump is spending easter weekend with his family in florida where he was spotted today on the links at one of his golf clubs. following the president to his mar-a-lago resort, rising tensions with north korea. >> we have a very big problem in north korea. oipt a high-level north korean official saying we are preparing the response. we're concluding that it's becoming more vicious and aggressive. that after the president took to

twitter to blast the regime and prod china. tweeting thursday, i have confidence they are preparing to deal with north korea. if they fail to do so, the u.s. and allies will do so. vice president pence will embark on a trip to the asia region. first stop, south korea. this weekend, the north is expected to celebrate the birthday of the country's founder with a military parade. it could soon conduct its sixth nuclear test experts say. asked if thursday's bombing of isis targets in afghanistan, the second significant show of force shown by the u.s. in a week was meant to send a message to the rogue regime, the president said -- >> it doesn't make any difference if it does or not. north korea is a problem. it will be taken care of. >> reporter: it's a thorny

action. >> if you look at north korea, this guy, he's like a maniac. ok. and you got to give him credit. this guy doesn't play games. we can't play games with him. he really does have missiles and he really does have nukes. >> reporter: they're trying to use a promised stwrad deal with the world's second-largest economy as an induszment. >> president xi wants to do the right thing. we had a good bonding. i think we had a good chemistry together. i think he wants to help us with north korea and i sid the way you're going to make a good trade deal is to help us with north korea. otherwise, we're just going to go it alone. >> reporter: we're hearing ominous language from north korea, that army spokesman who was accusing the trump

administration of "serious military his tesh ya kwoiltsz and promising a mercy less response to any aggression by the u.s. and they say the country is ready for war. it's the kind of heated rhetoric that's worrying. we'll see this weekend whether north korea launches another military test and what the outcome of the vice president's trip is. >> welcome to my guests. colonel, let me start with you. is kim young unprimed for a mid-atlantic test? >> it sure looks like it to me. the reason i say that is there's so many preparations in and around their nuclear testing facility that the evidence seems to be very close to the evidence

we've seen at prior nuclear tests, so my view is that yes, they are really ready for a nuclear test at this point in time. >> and there's also with this rhetoric, the situation, trump talking about his armada sailing up the coast, kim jong unresponding. >> he has to act in some way but i'm not sure if sixth test is the answer. i think there are other things that kim jong can do. he will have a face saving measure without necessarily conducting any tests. >> it's a significant sixth test. this would be a huge event. we are moments away from this whatever it might be, praild, military procession in honof the kim family. the whole world is watching kim

jong un tonight. the whole world is watchingle. how does he react? >> he's got some strength. you have to remember if this were thursday we would all be saying there would be the sixth test. but i think trump stunned the chinese leader and kim yong unwith the mother of all bombs. they're going to be cautious of dealing with the american leader. >> north korea's vice foreign minister saying we're comparing the action with the former administration's and we have concluded it's becoming more vicious and aggressive. that's objectively a true statement. when obama was president, kim young unwas incredibly aggressive toward him as well. he had videos where obama's head

was erupting in flames and new york city in flames. >> the sony hack, one possible scenario is that north korea may choose to use its cyber warfare unit to actually go in and do something that would affect not only the critical frush in the united states but also potentially in south korea. they've done that to the banks and the media in south korea before. it could be another choice for them as this anniversary comes up. >> of course their goal obviously is ultimately the united states. that's what this is about. that's what gives kim's legitimacy. the vice president said if the u.s. comes up with an aggressive option we'll deal with it with our preemptive strike. how far is north korea along in

its nuclear program. if they don't test is that a sign of weakness? >> it certainly is. but they will test because they have to sell this stuff to the iranians. they have maybe 15 to 30 weapons at this point and they're probably at the point they can accelerate the enrichment of uranium. that makes them a real threat. they can disperse them, put them underground. we can't find them. it gives them a sense of deterrence. >> when the u.s. talks about a preemptive strike, obviously the question is would they be strike book at a level to cause millions of casualties before the u.s. can obliterate their program. do we know where their nuclear facilities are? >> we certainly do not know. we know some sites but we cannot account for all the sites. there are a lot of covert nuclear weapons and missile

sites. this is why it shook so dangerous. either we have to back down and look sort of weak or we have to sort of follow through. so if there is a nuke test what are we going to do, right? if we don't do something, it makes us look sort of weak. >> colonel, is that the case? if there is a test, whatever that is, if it's tomorrow or five days from now, whatever it is, you're agreeing it's happening. does trump have to strike, do something? >> he doesn't have to but he's also done something -- >> he's not a guy who wants to look weak. we know that. >> right. >> if sue mi is saying, he wouldn't accept that, would he? >> that's right. i think he would and the question is exactly what form that action would take. he has to be very careful to keep everything that he does within bounds so that it doesn't precipitate, for example, an thrill attack on seoul or

something like that. that of course would be a difficult and terrible scenario. but i think that what will happen is we will get to the brink and he -- both he, president trump and kim young unwill figure out a way out of this but it will be very, very close to that hour. >> we're talking about two unpredictab unpredictable. next, the mother of all bombs striking isis. we're learning about that bombing and whether the military used the right weapon. plus the trump administration says they will not release the names of people who visit the white house. why? what is the big secret? another stinging public relations problem for united airlines. this from a scorpion. when you have allergies,

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. tonight, new video of the devastating hit from the mother of all bombs. we're showing you the moment of impact. the pentagon releasing this video of the colossal blast. apparently a pretty small group of isis was there for the biggest nonnuclear bomb since world war ii. barbara starr is out front. >> reporter: the largest conventional bomb ever dropped in combat exploded above a

complex of caves and tunnels. the top u.s. commander adamant the mission was only about killing isis. >> the timing of the use of this weapon was simply the appropriate tactical moment against the proper target to use this particular munition. so it is not related to any outside events. >> it does deliver a sick logical message to isis. one military official says the massive bomb is powerful enough to destroy nine city blocks. >> it will level that area and provide an unbelievable amount of concussion to that area. so it will collapse caves, blow up things, and it will -- if you're alive arveds, you're going to have perforated ear drums and a lot of trauma. >> general nicholson says it all went according to plan. caves and tunnels destroyed, afghanistan officials saying

dozens of isis fighters were killed. >> now we have afghanistan and u.s. forces on the site and see no evidence of civilian casualties nor have there been any reports of civilian casualties. >> reporter: nicholson signed the final order authorizing the mission just 24 hours before the bomb dropped. afterwards, local afghanistans described the enormity of the blast. >> translator: last night eats bomb was really huge. when it dropped, it was shaking everywhere. >> reporter: and as you say, erin, a lot of firepower on this one mission. general nicholson estimates there are still upwards of 800 isis fighters inside afghanistan. erin? >> thank you very much. 800 left, 36 killed by the biggest bomb in the u.s. arsenal. lieutenant rick fran owa served

in iraq. the number, 36 isis fighters is what they're saying about the number that was killed. the network of tunnels also impacted by this. the headlines around the world, the mother of all bombs, the acronym emblazened on the side of this missile, the biggest bottom used since world war ii and a nuclear bomb. was this too much power for the target. >> no it wasn't. the kaifts and tunnels were destroyed. the goal was to shut down the tunnel and cave complex that can not be used in the future. it will allow us to bring them out in the open. this is the perfect target for this weapon. >> colonel, was this the perfect target for this sfwhep how much of an impact does using this weapon with the attention it has

garnered around the world, how many impact was it to use it? >> strategically i don't think it will have much impact at all. there are still 40,000 taliban fighters on the ground. the u.s. trained afghanistan police and army are falling apart. the situation in afghanistan is certainly not favorable to us. i think this actually distracts people from that reality. killing these people, destroying this particular cave complex is not going to make any difference strategically to what happens in that country. >> it also begs the question, ok, what next? we've already used bomb, so then what? >> well, this was a step in the process. we've been fighting in that province for quite a while. isis has been there. we had a big battle in august. it's just continuing. as the colonel says, the afghans are not doing well.

the situation is wrors, the taliban is rising and we're seeing this now. the use of this weapon was driven by one particular target. this doesn't change the situation at all. it was a big bomb. it really doesn't change the situation. it does send a signal, i believe. i know we were told by the pentagon that the use of this weapon at this particular time coming on the heels of the attack in syria and prior to any kind of event in north korea is merely a coincidence. i'm trying to believe that and i'm falling all the time. >> colonel mcgregor, it seems that these things fit together, right? the president authorizes strikes in syria, this bomb is used in afghanistan. it's been around since 2003, being used just now. the president speaks and talks about an armada that he has, his word, sailing towards the coast of north korea and bragging

about his subs. is there any concern that trigger happy is a word that should be used here? >> well, the first point is that we attacked two undefended targets. we need to keep that in mind. the last one was an attack by an aircraft that would have been shot out of the sky against any capable opponent, including north korea. we'd never have been able to deliver the bomb. the notion that we're sending messages is ludicrous and nonsense. no one in the russian -- russian or tayron is impressed. there is no strategicic frame work guiding this. which to me as someone who voted for this president and supports him, is very disappointing. now we're moving on to korea. i don't know what the point is. i don't know what's going to happen, but again, i see no viable strategic objective that we are going to accomplish with

force there. >> colonel francona, what do you say? the fact that no one is impressed, do you agree? >> i don't know and i don't think any of us know. we don't know what goes on in the mind of kim jong un as this progresses. when we dropped 59 tomahawks there, i don't know if the message will be received in afghanistan with the isis. what i'm concerned about is we're sending the messages and as the colonel says, why are we sending them. what's the overarching strategy that drive the messages. >> thank you both. >> ok. thank you. >> next, the trump administration saying guess what? we're not going to tell you who comes to see the white house. no logs. not going to be public anymore. the reason they say is grave national security risks. really? is this just another layer of

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. breaking news. the white house announcing that it will be keeping visitor logs private. that means we will not know who visits the whouchlts this is a total break from precedent. athena jones is out front. athena, why? this is a change from the obama administration. >> reporter: it is and communications director tried to explain why they're making the move siting "grave national security risks and privacy concerns." it's not entirely clear what grave national security risks would be revealed. i can tell you during the obama administration sensitive meetings like with the potential supreme court justice or top national security officials were scrubbed before being released. this was a move that the trump white house doesn't want to

take. this is prompting criticism from both political parties. people reason concerned the white house is trying to hide information about who was come to meet the president, who was flupsing the president and shaping his policy. the group crew is blasting trump, promising to "drain the swamp" and then taking what they call a massive step away from transparency with this move. c.r.e.w. is suing the trump administration over this issue. >> senior communications advisor and former communications director, former advisor to four presidents and clinton house aid are with us. david, let me start with you. because the visitor logs for the obama white house -- let me give this example. we know kissly ak visited the

white house. we will not know about trump, right? >> absolutely true. i think couplings need to be kept in perspective, one is entirely within their legal right. >> yes. >> secondly, before president obama there was a lot of with holding of this information. you may remember when hillary clinton was putting together her health care proposal, the clinton white house put clamps on what names were released. the bush -- george w. bush white house, when dick cheney has the security initiative, they weren't revealed. president obama released some six million pages of logs. and i think that there is -- it established a new commitment to

transparency and to accountability ha has now become sort of the norm for government. and so what the -- the trump white house is acting legally but i think unwisely, especially given his record of secrecy starting with tax returns, going on to his golf game, for goodness sakes and now the visitor logs. >> jason, this is something that's important. barack obama started this. i think as david points out, it is the expectation that these logs be public. but president trump repeatedly slammed obama for transparency specifically let me play it for you, jason. >> president obama is the least transparent president in the history of this country. >> why do we want to see president obama's college records? >> transparencies. does that make any sense? >> no. [ cheers and applause ] >> what does that mean transparency?

>> it means there are so many things we don't know about our president. this is a very, very sad day for the united states of america. >> it's his even words, jason. he sure sounds like a hypocrite. >> to set the record straight on a couple of things. first and fore most this is a return to how it was set up during both the clinton and bush white house. with regard to the obama administration, let's keep in mind that they redacted a whole heck of a lot of names that we were never given clear reasons on, why they were redacted or weren't. there are security issues, issues about who's come in to meet with the president. need to be able to do some of those in private. >> so just redact those names. you just it yourself, right? >> no, but i i this that -- look, it's never going to stop. we don't want to scare people from being able to come into the white house. i think it's hypocrite kag to

attack the trump administration. i don't see any calls to find out who each member of congress a has met with. >> jason -- gentleman jason. >> this is totally hypocritical. absolutely hypocritical. >> i feel sorry for you to have to defend the inagainstble again. i worked in the clinton white house. i remember when people in the republican party were attacking hillary clinton, attacking them about the people who were meeting with hillary clinton and bill clinton. now for republicans to come into office to have control over the entire government and have a president who has notary leased his tax returns, who has not divested from his business, who hasn't set up a blind trust, who won't release the visitor logsz and for you to say that's what bill clinton did, i thought this guy was going to drain the swamp. >> no. that's -- i'm glad you brought up this point. when you talk about what president trump is doing putting

the five-year ban on administration officials coming out -- >> don't change the topic now. >> no. >> hold on, both of you hold on a second. it's a fair point but i want to follow up on one point, jason, because keith and david mentioned the clinton administration. you really benefitted from logs, jason. >> thank you. >> the state department calendars released to the a.p. showed more than half the people outside of the government who visited gave money to the clinton foundation. it was pay to play, that's what you said at the time. don't p you benefitted from the visitor logs. >> i think the administration has made clear what the issue is. it's security. i think we need to tamp down some of this anno pleksy. >> what is the situation, jason? what's the issue? how is it that the obama administration was able to

release six million names. what's the security issue? >> the obama administration has been -- >> it's not a national security meeting. there are a lot of people whose names can be released. >> you're going to say right now that every name that was redacted during the administration was purely for national security -- >> i did not say that. >> that's what i'm asking. >> you're going from -- >> let me get david in here as the person who's been there through, by the way, some pretty shady presidencies, we're talking about nixon, right? do you buy this national security at all? >> it's total b.s. >> through go. >> you can run -- you can regulate this. as the obama administration, which did, i have six millions names that it released. it did redact some of them. that when they were important security conversations, but that's so rare. it has so little to do with this.

and by the way, as national security really was threatened when congressman nunes went in? wasn't it helpful at the end of the day what he was doing in this? i think it was. i want to go back to one thing that's very important for this conversation. this is not a left-right issue. the organization that's been really on the front line for a long time, trying to get more transparency, trying to sue to get these logsz out is judicial watch. that's a conservative group. they're trying to set on both sides of the aisle, standards of transparency and accountability. if the president wants to throughout foes standards and norms, he's within his rights. voters are within their rights to make judgments about his secrecy and how much truth they're getting out of the white house. >> there's a lot more to talk about and lime glad that we've started. thank you. next, one of the president's

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goldman sachs is a registered democrat though he's also given money to republicans. and he's more present in the white house. the success of the moderate fax which includes kohn and jared kushner and dinna powell was on clear display this week. the president insisting china is no longer a currency manipulator. abandoned this refrain from the campaign trail. >> we are going to label china a currency manipulatomanipulator. >> reporter: and lavished praise on janet yellen. >> she's highly political and not raising rates for a specific reason, because obama told her not to. >> reporter: as the nationalists champs appear to be losing

ground, alliances may be shifting. miller, a prominent trump cheerleader. >> are you ready to elect a man who will only answer to the american people? >> reporter: found a kindred spirit in steve bannon. now miller has been branching out, working more closely with jared curb her's office of merge innovation. as for the president he ended the week noncommittal on whether a staff shakeup is in the works. saying from day to day "i don't nope." top staffers are taking a break from the west wick turmoil and spending the easter holiday with their families. president trump is hitting the links today in mar-a-lago, his 17th trip to the golf course since becoming president. >> thank you. new trouble for united airlines. another shocking incident on

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videos now. those dead children, were they dead at all? yes, they were. children died in the sarin gas attack committed by assad. assad and his wife and children are living in an alternate universe. peyton walsh takes uttus there. >> reporter: this is the world of most syrians, rubble, bombs, indiscriminate slaughter, even chemical weapons. welcome to the world according to bashar al assad where things that make him look bad simply doesn't didn't happen. >> we don't know whether those dead children, were they dead at all? who committed the attack if there was attack? >> reporter: it's nothing new for a man who was an eye doctor trained in london yet has found himself a hated dictator. in his 17-year reign, from

reformist to murderer. u.s. missile strikes on talk from the trump administration like this -- >> our view is that the reign of the assad family is coming to an end. >> reporter: it's unclear whether that's on the verge of happening. he denied that bombings like this have ever happened. he's denied being behind this sarin massacre in 2013 before agreeing to give his chemical weapons up under pressure from russia. this may be the only time assad left war time damascus in a military plane en route to meet vuntd in the kremlin, a public sign of the russian report that has turned the war in his favor. dah mass cass is quieter than the rest of syria. when a place is damaged, it's

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position, is sort of a key part of their global aim because so much of the diplomatic efforts to end the war involve western powers saying he needs to step down from power and perhaps they focus too much on his fate, making it impossible for him to step down. if he leaves power, would the war suddenly stop overnight? this is an exessential part of this fight. basically i don't really see it unless someone dramatic moment takes him out of this world, that he's going anywhere at all. >> important perspective, him and his three children living in that mall las while those attacks are happening.

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guilty but he is serving life without parole for a second murder conviction. a passenger stung by a scorpion, the united flight was headed from houston to calgary when the scorpion dropped from the overhead bin landing on a passenger's head. this happened the same day that kentucky doctor, david dao was dragged off the plane. you're sitting there, you're completely captive, richard, what happened? >> i felt something on my head so i grabbed it off my head, not knowing what it was at all. and i just happened to grab it by the tail, so when i was holding it, i was holding so that it couldn't really sting me at that point. then a gentleman next door to us, he was from mexico, and he said that's a scorpion, and it's a light collared one, it's very

dangerous so then i dropped it. so i was trying to get it off -- i was eating, so it was on the tray. and i was trying to get it off and it stung me on my thumb, right around my nail. and then i kind of flipped it on to the floor and we covered it up on the floor at first, and the flight attendants were there trying to figure out what to do. and then a passenger took off his shoe and whacked it off with his shoe. a sting by some species can leave you with heart and lung failure. this can be incredibly serious, when you were stung, richard, what was the first thing that went through your mind? >> i didn't think about it at all, i just thought of really getting rid of it. that's really all i was thinking about. and afterwards, you start, okay,

what do i do? so you start googling on the internet. what do you do with bites. good thing we have internet on airplanes now. and the flight attendants, the pilot was very good, the flight attendants were very helpful. >> i know they had e.m.t.'s waiting for you. but this scorpion was etly crawling in the overhead bins? >> we had a couple that was returning from honduras and they couldn't fit their guitar case in the overhead bin, so they put it above ours, that's the only thing that i can think of, because the scorpion was dangling. i sat down and it was probably just -- it fell enough that he felt it on his head. so we don't know where it came from. but when we researched and went

on google, the first scorpion, which was like a wheat brown and of course it was poisonous, so here we are in the air not kn knowing if things go sideways, what's going to happen. so we were pretty scare. thank you for joining us, "a.c. 360" is next. kbeeng good evening, jim sciuto. it is now founders day and the world is watching, waiting for a possible nuclear test there, or other military provocation, if one happens, it will cap a week that has already seen a nuclear threat from kim jong-un, cold war words from russia and the dropping of a truly massive bomb on afghanistan. president trump through all this was on vacation. more on