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related to this investigation, although we do know stevens did have a conceal carry permit. the big question is why did he do this. this was a man that mentored children and the only person that can answer that question is steven himself. >> thanks very much. that's it for me. "outfront" starts right now. north korea warning a nuclear war could break out at any moment as the president ramps up the tough talk and sends the vp to the dmz. undocumented immigrants with one-way tickets back to mexico. why are you paying for them. it's the nudge seen around the world. melania trump's reminder to her husband. good evening. out front tonight threat of nuclear war. north korea is not backing down. neither is the united states. the rogue nation unleashing a
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verbal assault on america threatening about more than a war of words. listen to the u.n. ambassador erupting against president trump and the united states this afternoon. >> it has created a dangerous situation in which a nuclear war may erupt any moment on the korean peninsula and poses a throat to the peace and security to say nothing of those of northeast asia. >> the vice president mike pence on a visit to south korea has a warning of his own tonight. don't dare donald trump. >> north korea would do well not to test his resolve or the strength of the armed forces of the united states in this region. the era of strategic patience is over. >> the president himself spoke two words about the crisis. >> any message for north korea,
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sir? kim jong-un? >> better behave. >> and tonight, all options are on the table. we're live around the world on this major developing story. we begin with jeff zeleny at the white house. a clear escalation tonight. the white house, though, refusing to draw a formal red line. >> reporter: they are refusing to draw a red line not saying how far north korea can go in the provocations here, but this white house is carefully watching the nuclear ambitions of north korea without question. this is emerging as the biggest foreign policy challenge at the moment for this administration here. the administration is saying look, strategic patience as they say is running out. they are not going to take the wait and see attitude in their description that the last administration did, but they are hoping that china will step in and ease this threat, but the language on china so different than it was six months ago, even less than that when this
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president was railing against china. now they are hoping that china will sort of help deal with this threat here, but the white house in fact the president not saying much at all about this, but behind the scenes here at the white house with the vice president, of course, in the region there, they are watching this very very carefully, but again not saying what options are on the table. but clearly as president obama said when he was in his final meeting with this president, north korea is your biggest threat and now they're seeing why. >> thank you very much. meanwhile, the vice president spent the day literally in the dmz between north and south korea. if you go there, you feel the military presence. you feel that this is still a war. dana bash was with him. she is out front from seoul tonight. >> the demilitarized zone on the korean peninsula is always a place on edge especially now as
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the vice president visits and tensions are escalating. the vice president was supposed to stay inside, but he said he wanted to come out. if you look over there not only are the u.s. and south korean troops getting ready for it you, you see the man on the other side of the blue building, that's a north korean military officer. here comes the vice president now. you see those soldiers on the other side of that concrete barrier taking pictures, those are north korean soldiers taking photos of the vice president. if you swing around right here of the vice president getting a briefing. they're taking a picture. many pictures of the vice president looking at them and looking into north korea. minutes later vice president pence whose father was a decorated soldier in the korean war spoke exclusively with cnn. i was watching you watch what is behind you earlier. what was going through your mind looking at north korea?
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>> this is a frontier of freedom. now for more than six decades u.s. forces and forces of south korea have held the line for freedom here at the dmz. >> reporter: there are estimates that north korea could have a missile ready that could hit the continental u.s. seattle by 2020 which is going to be on your watch. i mean, is that weighing on you and is that a deadline that you all have in mind? >> i know the president of the united states has no hire priority than the safety and security of the american people. the president's made clear that we're going to abandon the failed policy of strategic patience, but we're going to redouble our efforts to bring diplomatic and economic pressure to bear on north korea. >> reporter: later in seoul a thinly veiled threat.
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>> north korea would do well not to test his reserve all right that after visiting a dmz post overlooking north korea where propaganda blairs from speakers all day. i was holding the microphone out so you can hear what we're hearing which is music coming from that way and that way is north korea. the music now is oftentimes propaganda that the north korean regime is notoriously sending out. an up close view of a rogue regime becoming more and more dangerous. now, the vice president is now meeting with some south korean economic leaders, business leaders and after that he is going to visit another very very important ally in this region and one that is also quite concerned and has been for decades about north korea, especially and i'm talking about japan, and that is especially
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since when north korea attempts to test its missiles even earlier this month as a perfect example, they tend to land a little too close to comfort to japan in the sea of japan. >> thank you. a top democratic senator ben cardon. i appreciate your time. you heard the north korea u.n. ambassador speaking out. u.s. military action in syria and korea in recent days has created a situation where thermonuclear war may break out at any moment. is president trump responsible for this? >> no, it's the north koreans who are making this issue so tense. they're violating their commitments not just on a nuclear stockpile, but also on developing a missile that could deliver that nuclear weapon to the continental united states. it's north korea's actions that need to be responded to.
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quite frankly we need to find a diplomatic solution to this issue. we need to change the equation for north korea and china is a key player. we've already imposed sanctions. the united states congress has given additional sanctions. for it to be effective china must tighten the economic sanctions against north korea. >> the white house today said they will not discuss any red lines for north korea and the president did explain a little bit of his reasoning this afternoon. here's president trump. >> i don't want to telegraph what i'm doing or what i'm thinking. i'm not like other administrations where they say we're going to do this in four weeks. it doesn't work that way. >> is he right? are you fully supportive of how he is handling north korea right now? >> i'd like to know how he is handling north korea. we don't have a policy -- the trump administration has not
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presented to the congress a coherent policy in regards to north korea. it would be good for us to hear that. we do hear him responding to certain things that are taking place, including the failed launch this past week in the parading of north korea's military weapons, but we don't have a coherent policy as to how we're going to bring north korea to change its behavior. we don't know who is with us and what actions may be taken. we don't have a clear understanding as to what he will do under certain circumstances. quite frankly we could use a coherent policy presented on it the congress and the american people. >> he's saying he's not going to telegraph it. you mentioned the parade. we're looking at the newest missiles that kim jong-un has. some of are containers for intercontinental ballistic missiles. they will conduct tests as often
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as weekly. the u.s. response becomes paramount. do they really have that capability to do weekly tests? >> north korea has nuclear capacity. they have also developing quite quickly their missile capacity. is it as sophisticated as the united states? no, not even close to that, but is it danger not just to the region and it's a real danger to the region. i've been to the dmz zone. i now how intenknow how intense normal circumstances. it's a very tense situation. i'm not asking the president to telegraph his actions to the north koreans. i am asking him to confer with us the congress of the united states so that we're all together on this. our concern is that we don't know if he knows what his policy is in regards to north korea. it would be good for us to be
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able to get engaged so we have a coherent policy. >> the russian state television today, i don't know if you saw this, said quote, trump is more impulsive and unpredictable than kim jong-un. what do you say? >> that's outrageous. you're talking about a lunatic in north korea who has no sense of responsibility at all. he's violating so many of the international norms and requirements. no, we have a very dangerous leader in north korea who has shown that he will execute people who disagree with him even if they're members of his own family. he has put his own people at risk and violating their basic needs so, no, there is no comparison. the north korean leader is extremely dangerous to the international community. >> thank you. i appreciate your time tonight. next, trump tax returns, a lot of new talk on this issue tonight.
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one day before the deadline to file. >> the same audit that existed so nothing has changed. >> is it time to say the president is never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. >> he may? >> i said i'll have to get back to you on that. he is still under audit. >> the audit excuse has been given over and over and over since the campaign. nothing stops trumps from releasing his returns and it gets more interesting than that. there's a big question here, he was under audit in the past. will he be under audit for the 2016 taxes? >> his 2016 tax returns are automatically under audit. that's because every president and every vice president gets
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audited each and every year. it's something that the irs describes as something called a mandatory examination. tax experts that we spoke to today, they say importantly this audit does not prevent trump from releasing his tax returns. that's the important point there. so for instance, we saw former president obama whose taxes underwent the same kind of mandatory audit still released his every year and this follows that pattern that we saw trump do as a candidate where you lined on the audit as an excuse. >> it is very interesting, all presidents are under audit while they're president and the rest have them have chosen to release their taxes. the republicans are having to answer for this. >> reporter: there seems to be a lot of furry. a senator was asked about this at his town hall this afternoon. an angry constituent asked him
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about this in arkansas and he tried to defend president trump for refusing to release his returns. the crowd was not too happy with his answer. check out this moment. >> the president says he's still under audit and he says he's going to release them. >> it was a central issue in the campaign. hillary clinton and her campaign repeatedly -- >> it's hard to hear, but at the end senator cotton said trump won despite all of that. notably recently there have been a handful of other republicans who have come out and called to trump to return their tax returns. three republicans have signed on to a measure to try to force the release of the tax returns. jeffry lord, trump supporter and former white house political supporter and our politics reporter and editor at large.
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keith, under audit, no returns. the president is being consistent, isn't he? >> no, because actually if you think about it before he used the audit excuse he did say he would release his tax returns. he said at first with regard to president obama. if president obama releases his birth certificate, i'll release my tax returns. he didn't do it. then in an interview with an irish television in 2014 he said if i run for president i will absolutely release my tax returns. he didn't do it. it's a question of honesty and integri integrity. this is a president who lied about his willingness to release his tax returns to the american public and people like jeffry should be ashamed they continue to support him because he is consistently inconsistent about the tax returns. >> he has moved the goal post again and again. that is true. this is also true. every president since gerald ford has released tax returns while in office even though they are under audit.
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trump is on an island on this one. >> he's not on an island. if he is, he's on an island with 36 presidents who didn't release their tax returns. that means every president from wilson to johnson -- >> why are you going back to wilson? that has no relevance to today. you can't go back to the prehistoric example to talk about what donald trump is doing. you haven't explained why he's lying. >> 43 years ago is when this changed. >> keith, let me ask you something -- >> just answer the question. just answer the question. just answer. just answer the question. >> did you release your tax returns when you worked in the white house? >> if i'm president of the united states, that's the
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dumbest question. >> let me bring you in here to break the verbal onslaught. how big a tradition is it. 40 years they've released. >> two things are true, 74% in a poll conducted before president trump's inauguration said they would like him to release his taxes. 49% of people who support him said that. the other thing that is true is that donald trump isn't going to win or lose an election based on whether or not he released his tax returns. kellyanne conway said people care more about their tax returns than donald trump's. this idea he would lose because of some of these transparency questions, it's not borne out in the vote. >> president trump attacked president obama over transparency many times. at one point he treated sort of
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feels like a gem tonight. why does obama believe he shouldn't comply with record releases that his predecessors did. hiding something? i could tell you it was tax returns. it was over college records, but it sound like the same thing. do you feel like you're in a position here you have to defend complete hypocrisy? >> i think where issues arise is matters of government. i may not agree with him because i'm not up to date on the security information of the white house log, but i can understand why people would raise a question about that. i just think it's a matter of principal. if we're saying that every president and every person of influence in this country who has influence should release their tax returns should go for it. >> why do you keep throwing up red herrings. i'm surprised you didn't use the
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ph ph philmoore excuse. presidents who run campaigns on the issue of transparency should be even more incumbent upon them to release their tax returns. donald trump lied when he said he will release his tax returns. he never did it. hillary clinton released 39 years of tax returns. >> i want to ask a broader issue because you mentioned the logs. sean spicer was asked today about the logs, those white house logs and why donald trump administration is not going to be releasing them when barack obama did. here is how sean spicer answered the question. >> it's the same policy that every administration had up until the obama administration and frankly the attempt that the obama administration put out where they would scrub what they didn't want put out didn't serve anyone well. >> i'm wondering does sean spicer have a point? president didn't put out the logs in the interest of transparency. he was forced to in a court case. >> i would say that shawn is
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right on parts of it. as you note these weren't always released right on time. not everything was released. to call them foe releases is i think a spin here, but the reason that the president trump is not releasing the white house visit logs is they don't want to and because he thinks there's no political price to pay and frankly you can debate again whether it's the right thing to do, but politically speaking he's probably right. i don't see donald trump running against a candidate in 2020 who says we need to defeat donald trump because he didn't publicly disclose the white house travel. it's not an issue that's going to resonate with people. >> transparency has not hurt him. there's no question about that despite his own words saying it mattered. thank you all. next, breaking news on the nationwide hunt for the alleged facebook killer. the law enforcement warning the public and his friends are
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breaking news, a manhunt under way for a man authorities are calling armed and dangerous accused of gunning down a stranger and putting video of the attack on facebook. the suspect steve stephens, he filmed himself shooting robert godwin and he blamed his girlfriend. he claims to have killed 13 people. investigators chasing down leads and schools on lockdown. >> our message to the community at large is to be careful. >> reporter: a cross country manhunt for a cold blooded killer as schools are placed on lockdown and communities are urged to take precautions. stephens is on the run after
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shooting godwin on sunday and posting the video on facebook. the video shows stephens randomly choosing his victim. about to kill this old guy right here. stephens is seen getting out of the car and point a gun to godwin's head. >> reporter: what was your reaction? this is your grandfather that you are watching. >> i just immediately ran and screamed because i just -- it's like you watch stuff like this on tv. you never imagine that it would hit so close to home, someone that is in your family and it just goes to show you no one is exempt from something like this happening. >> reporter: the video stayed up on facebook for hours before it was taken down. many who saw it called 911, but stephens was on the run, describing himself in a separate video as a monster with built in anger and frustration. >> steve, if you're out there listening call someone. >> reporter: those pleas coming from stephens mother.
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she tells cnn her son says he was shooting people because he was angry with his girlfriend. he can heard in the video asking godwin to say a woman's name saying she's the reason this is about to happen to you. he boasted killing at least a dozen others, but no other victims have been found. >> we've interviewed several people involved in this and i don't think there's any rhyme or reason for it happening. >> reporter: the woman stephens named in the video is cooperating and safe. they had been in a relationship for several years texting cbs news steve really is a nice guy. he was kind and loving to me and my children. in fact, stephens mentored young children helping children in the foster care children find jobs s, but that's little consolation to the family. godwin had ten children and 14
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grandchildren. >> we love him and i just hope that he knows how loved he was and i can see all the people coming from all over the world and supporting him and i feel like everyone is mourning with us. a lot of people are mourning with us. >> reporter: a $50,000 reward is on the table. authorities hope that is what will help lead to information or lead to his arrest. as that manhunt continues, investigations on the ground continue as well. we know authorities have searched several homes associated with stephens. they have recovered some weapons, but we know tonight he did have a conceal carry permit. >> thank you very much. it's a shocking story. an attorney, he was a fraternity of steve stephens. i know you're pulling aside in your car to talk to me. i appreciate it. i know you're in shock. you knew steve well. you talked to him. you've known him over a long time. what's your reaction to what
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you're hearing? >> well, it's really difficult to reconcile steve, the gentleman i knew for a number of years, a person i had no concerns about my safety around him or he around my family. and what i saw on facebook yesterday it's just very difficult. it's shocking to say the least. there's nothing in his behavior that would have indicated he had some propensity. my sympathy and i share the pain for that family who they've lost a loved one on easter sunday nonetheless and i also -- we just hope and care enough for steve that he surrenders safely and transitions into justice here for everybody. we just can't really find the words to make sense out of this. >> i mean, i know you're saying it doesn't fit at all with the man you knew over many years. from what you do know of him,
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could you begin to think what could have caused him to snap and do something so unbelievable and hard to understand? >> well, i think what everyone would -- they would do themselves a favor and realize how serious this mental health issue is in the community and in the african-american community in particular. there are 40 million individuals who suffer from mental health issues and the mind is so fragile. we're all so fragile. i just have compassion for those who suffer. however, the suffering may come and we are a community based organization. community service oriented and obviously there's nothing about steve that was inconsistent with what we stand for, but for what we saw yesterday. >> and walter, authorities are saying he's armed and dangerous. obviously this horrific murder happened on easter sunday. he says that he killed at least a dozen other people.
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there's no evidence of that at this time, but do you believe he is capable of killing someone else since he did this horrific random act of violence? >> well, anything that we heard our friend steve stephens say yesterday, we have to consider the context. obviously he engaged in in deranged behavior and made deranged comments. i don't know what is going on in the mind of him at that time. i do know that he's demonstrated that he can, that's certainly a concern for all those involved that may encounter him, but we encourage our partners in the law enforcement community and citizens to communicate and say something if they see him. >> thank you for talking to us. >> the former assistant director. we have a nationwide manhunt. you're talking to people
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involved in that hunt. do they hefear he will kill aga? >> absolutely. you have to look at this individual's mindset. we've heard people come out and talk about what a good individual this person was, but to have him snap like this and just randomly commit this horrendous crime, he's capable of doing it again. the nightmare scenario here for law enforcement is they have got to locate this individual before he kills somebody else. now, what i'm hearing out there now is that there's no major leads that they're following. there's sort of a three-part investigation going here. you have the actual crime that was committed, but then you have this cell phone pinging issue which i know investigators are all over, but you also have -- >> i want to interrupt for a second to show a map. they got a ping on the cell phone with his number about 100 miles away from where the murder happened, but they obviously haven't found him there yet and
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it may not have been an accurate ping. >> right. it might not be accurate. he could be anywhere at this point in time, not just within that five state perimeter that we've been talking about, he could have got up into canada. there's a lot of different things going on here and as time goes by there just seems to be radio silence right now on any major leads. there could very well be a possibility here that this individual has gone ahead and killed himself also and we haven't located the body yet. this investigation is wide open at this point. with no major leads to follow, this could take some time to locate this individual. >> all right. thank you very much. next, questions swirling around the president's former campaign manager and his meeting with a chinese billionaire. the airline no one wants to fly. the passengers are being deported and you are paying the bill.
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said what's a map of the u.s. doing in your office he said we put this map up because we're about to meet trump's special envoy paul. we asked him who he meant and wouldn't say and he mentioned paul through chinese a little bit later so my editor translator said who are you talking about, paul manafort, he's coming here at lunch time. >> it's stunning a person told you all it went smoothly. what else did you learn about what happened? it's pretty incredible here to make the point that the chinese billionaire is describing paul manafort as trump's special envoy. >> with he know the meeting went ahead. he asked the billionaire later if he met mr. manafort. he he wouldn't say anything, but we found out that the meeting went ahead and it went well and mr. manafort was taking on a
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river beat tour. we were told he was going to come back in a month's time for further discussions. when he put that to mr. trump's spokesman he said that paul manafort knew so much about his travel plans, but they didn't deny he was going back to china. >> it is stunning. the specific construction group was an meeting added to his schedule because the chinese are interested in u.s. infrastructure. paul manafort conversations involve leaders worldwide, but does not involve any future projects in the united states. he is not engaged in government affairs or lobbying for corporations or governments or individuals. we now paul manafort has a long
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resume have government affairs so much so he's registering as a foreign agent. >> we don't know how paul manafort represented himself to the chinese official. did he claim to still have ties to trump or channel to the president. oftentimes you have former officials do ing that. there are a lot of former u.s. officials who do this kind of consulting work for foreign governments and they do it and they make a lot of money doing it and there's nothing illegal about it. in fact, some will argue there's some positive benefits. there are a lot of states in the u.s. that are looking for foreign funding for infrastructure projects. that should be noted. on the foreign agent thing, this is potentially significant because it's a second trump tie official who is registering as a foreign agent because michael flynn did the same thing, but to be fair there were a lot of folks who do this kind of
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consulting work that don't register as foreign agents. since the 1960s the u.s. feds have prosecuted half a dozen people under the foreign agents registration act. to register in retrospect doesn't mean the guy is necessarily going to go to court over this. >> which is a fair point. it matters in the context of the russian investigations. paul manafort's spokesman changed his statement about this. >> when he we talked on the phone he said hold on a second, paul manafort was in china on personal business. he wasn't there for work. when i told him that we had talked to the chinese billionaire on the record and he had made these claims, he got back to me shortly afterwards and said it turns out that paul manafort was on business, but of course he wasn't doing anything to do with infrastructure projects and pushed back and
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that's where we have it. >> all right. thank you both very much. raising some important new questions tonight about trump's campaign chairman. next, undocumented immigrants are surging and some are leaving the united states on what's called i.c.e. air. president trump has a new right hand man at the white house.
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he's happy to see his family, the last time he saw his family was 13 years ago when he illegally crossed the border with his parents. >> most people live with their families, they're leaving everything behind to start a new life. >> reporter: aboard the flight, deportees are provided a meal, they're also handcuffed. upon arrival, they're given a take home bag with water, and some personal belongings. then there are those on i.c.e. air like guadalupe. she tells us she's not a dangerous criminal, and can't understand why she's been separated by her two children in the united states. >> they don't treat you like a human being. >> reporter: this man says none of us is enough to keep him from his family in the united states.
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what do you tell your kids? >> that i will be back. >> reporter: and you know, while we are seeing that increase in the number of arrests, here's the deal, erin, when you take a look at the numbers of deportations, what we're seeing here at mexico city's international airport, we do not see that same increase. i took a look at the numbers, from february and march of last year, under the obama administration, and february and march of this year, and we're actually seeing a 5% decrease in deportations under the trump administration despite his calls for tough and strict immigration policies. >> all right, layla, thank you so much, a fascinating piece. next, easter at the white house, jeanne mos on a roll. not ink. printing doesn't have to be painful. now, during "hp savings month" at staples, get up to $180 off hp printers.
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an easter tradition rolled on today at the white house.
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here's jeanne mos. >> reporter: you would think he was a head of state rather than just a head inside a bunny suit. >> the president of the united states and mrs. trump, accompanied by the easter bunny. >> reporter: and to think at times during the bush administration, the eater bunny was sean spicer, who this year merely posed alongside the bunny. while melissa mccarthy portrayed him briefing in his bunny suit. >> just eat as much candy as you want, because this is probably our last easter on earth. >> i usually am fast asleep by the time it comes on. >> reporter: the president needed a little wakeup call, oh, say, did you see? the first lady nudged the president during the national anthem. ♪ okay say can you see ♪ by the dawn's early light
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>> tweeted one viewer u is it me, or did he seem to have a problem finding his heart. and the whittstle, starting several easter egg races, while a girl writing cards to the soldiers, seemed pleased to find herself next to the first lady. but when melania read a book called "party animals" one animal acted like one. >> reporter: at least she didn't try pulling the easter rabbits ears, the ear have a funny way of getting around, around the head of the gunnery sergeant who sang the national anthem, around the head of the president. wrap your head around this. jeanne mos, cnn, new york.
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>> all right, thanks so much for joining us, don't forget, you can watch "out front" any time any where, just go to cnn go. good evening, thank you for joining us, two stories dominate the news tonight, only one of them involves the threat of nuclear war, it's been that kind of day. the other story is an urgent man hunt, this man, steve stephens, shown on facebook taking his own life. tonight on 360, members of his family speak out. and i have to say their strength is remarkable. have police been keeping you up to date, have they been letting you know about everything that's going on? >> yes, we have been contacted by the mayor and fiofficials fr his office and