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he said he was going to take the steps to divide his business from the people's business that he does as people of the united states, which is what's necessary. instead, just down in mar-a-lago in palm beach county he hosted a dinner for president g. and his daughter sat next to the president of china the same day that china approved a number of trademarks that will benefit her business, which is the family business. he has to once and more all put the business of the american people first as his sole priority and take the steps necessary to stop violating the constitution and the foreign payments clause and to avoid these conflicts. that's what the american people expe expect. >> thank you. all right. there are three big stories going on at the same time. let's get after it. >> the trump administration is currently conducting a comprehensive review of our iran policy.
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>> if there is trouble in the region you find iran. >> the president said he had an armada going towards the peninsula. that is happening. >> these kinds of mistakes could be problematic. >> this is a rutterless administrati administration. >> bill o'reilly is leaving the network in the wake of mounting allegations of sexual harassment. >> this is about women's rights. >> the mur docks recognized a lot of change needs to happen at fox. >> i don't think bill did anything wrong. >> they're two of a kind. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alison cam rat toe. >> it is a full show and we will be covering how the face of cable news has changed as of today and we'll talk about all the ramifications of bill o'reilly's exit. >> it's how that will company
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change. what does that mean for the presidency? remember the connection leading all the way up to the presidency? >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your new day. we begin with iran. secretary of state calling for a comprehensive review of the nuclear deal one day after saying that iran was complying with that deal. tillerson iran could pose the same nuclear threat as north korea. >> the trump administration is sending mixed messages on foreign policy and that has critics wondering why they are ago dating another potential d adversa adversary. let's begin our coverage is joe johns live at the white house. good morning, joe. >> reporter: good morning, chris. this new administration is saying iran is playing by the rules, but they are still reviewing the iran nuclear agreement. the latest example of this administration sort of going in
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two different directions on foreign policy. if you will remember, donald trump just railed against this deal while he was on the campaign trail. but now he's in the oh value office, it looks different. >> fails to achieve the objective of a nonnuclear iran and only delays their goal of becoming a nuclear state. >> rex tillerson declaring the iran nuclear deal a failure, one day after the state department said exactly the opposite, affirming that iran has been compliant to the deal. tillerson ratcheting up the rhetoric. >> and unchecked iran has the potential to travel the same path as north korea and take the world along with it. >> announcing the deal is under review but stopping short of threatens to make additional sanctions. >> my number one priority is to
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dismantle the dissas traus deal with iran. >> tillerson's attempt to clarify the administration's position the latest in a string of mixed messages on foreign policy. earlier this week president trump called the turkish president to congratulate him on a referendum that strengthened his rule. just hours after the state department noticed irregularities in the vote. the white house also struggling to get its story straight about why the administration said in april that an aircraft carrier was racing toward the korean peninsula in response to north korea's provocations. when in reality, the fleet was headed in the opposite direction. >> we have an armada going towards the peninsula. that's a fact. it happened. it is happening, rather. the statement put ouz was it was
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headed to the korean peninsula. >> it's headed there now. >> sure, no, no. but that's not what we ever said. >> meanwhile paul ryan rallying nato allieallies. >> russia interfered in our elections and they are interfere anything elections here in europe as we speak. >> the russia investigation is back on track. >> i think we're very close to agreement on our initial witness list and the process going forward. >> and new this morning on the white house beat, there has been new developments in the case of an undocumented immigrant who may have been deported by the u.s. government, despite the fact he had protected status under the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. the new development is that case will be heard by kureil, the
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same judge donald trump suggested on the campaign trail may have been biassed due to his mexican heritage, even though he was born in indiana. back to you. >> let's discuss all of this, including the judge development. we have david gregory, julia pace and former u.s. undersecretary for political affairs, ambassador nicholas burns. the judge is back in the limelight because of this dreamer case. i mean, he's become this inadvertent nemesis of the trump administration. >> right. well, you know, you poke the judiciary and this is what you get, you know, and the judiciary can poke back, at least in circumstances. remember, when the judge was on the trump university case and trump candidate said he would be unfair because he was of mexican
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heritage. even though it wasn't mexican heritage. what was notable at that time and it's relevant here is that trump's lawyers never complained about the judge substantively. they never said he conducted himself in any way other than totally professionally in the trump case and they never filed to have him removed on the case, so it was all bluster on the part of kand cat trump and now there is nothing in the ethics laws that would require the judge to recuse himself just because he had been attacked by a public official. we'll see if there is any reason that those in the case would see a reason to do that, but it doesn't appear to be the case at this time. >> it is really interesting. the study of impartiality would expect criticism from a public official never really triggers any suggestion that a judge couldn't do a case because it would create a preverse incentive for public officials
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to criticize judges that have cases about them. but isn't that exactly what we see from the white house? and when they hear it is kuriel they will make that relevant in the analysis of the case? >> i don't believe there is any reason to believe they wouldn't. but then the comment he was taking about the judges that were involved in cracking down on the travel bans, the two travel bans that the white house tried to put forward. this in some ways is part of the president's strategy in dealing with legal issues. and, so, for him, whether it is against the advice of his own legal council or not, for him this is his strategy when it comes to dealing with the courts. >> ambassador burns let's talk about iran and perhaps you can help us parse secretary tillerson's statements. he said yesterday iran is complying with the nuclear deal, the nuclear deal that president trump criticized on the campaign trail.
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and then today he basically suggests, but iran could become as big a nuclear threat as north korea. so which one is it? >> well, it is a contradiction and the administration has a real dilemma. the iran nuclear deal is a fact. i happen to support it. but even if donald trump wanted to pull out, he doesn't have the option because the british, the french and the germans would not lead with us. and if they get all the sanctions relief and if the deal ends, iran would have all the restrictions lifted. that's the worst deal for the united states. i don't think donald trump could survive that in terms of his credibility and nato with the nato allies and it certainly would be a defeat for american foreign policy. the dilemma is that iran is a problem in yemen, in iraq, in syria. they have revolutionary guard troops on the ground. they are gearing up against
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israel. that's the threat. i think the president would be bipartisan support for efforts to try to block the iranians and conventional terms by tougher talk on that issue, by helping the allies and europeans to block it, that's where i think he should go. but there is no room for him to walk out of this iranian deal without suffering a major defeat for american foreign policy. >> julie, do you hear anything on the reporting side that would mint what tillerson is saying about iran right now with anything resembling a strategy of how to curtail these other activities that iran is involved in? >> there really doesn't seem to be a decision made internally about this, other than a recognition they have to deal with iran's actions. i think it is important to know some of what we're hearing right now on iran is because there are deadlines dilt into the
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agreement that require the u.s. to send notifications to congress, to make decisions on oil exports from iran. so you are going to hear these periodic updates from the administration. i think what you saw this week was an attempt to both not make a major change in u.s. policy but also try to talk tough on iran. but everything i have heard behind the scenes from this administration in terms of their conversations with foreign countries who are partners in this deal is that they're signaling that the u.s. is not readily to pull out of this deal. so we may hear a lot of bluster, but my reporting shows, particularly with our our peen allies, they are not worried at this point that trump is going to cut iran from the iran deal. >> this is why this is a contradiction is so hallow from the secretary of state. you're following a process on the one hand where there is compliance and talking tough the next day. it makes perfect sense a new administration wants to take a close look at this, particularly
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since the president said he was going to rip this thing up. they're not going to do it. they don't have the maneuverability. but any administration wants to take a hard look at what's happening conventionally and the problem that iran poses, as well as the fact that this nuclear deal just buys the western world some time. so you have got to take a look at how you deter iran over the longer term. if there is a strategy it is really more tactical, which is they want to know an array of toughness in dealing with these foes around the world. >> panel, thank you very much for all of the analysis. >> let's get to the other big story this morning. fox news firing its biggest star. bill o'reilly is gone after more than two deck kids as the face of that network. fox's parent company caving to pressure as the claims of sexual harassment have piled up and advertisers have fled the show. cnn's senior media correspondent
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has the story. >> this is the day many inside and outside fox thought would never come. bill o'reilly was thought to be invincible. when he went on vacation he said i'll be back. i'll tell you all about my trip. turns out he flu home from italy last night. by the time he landed, he was out of a job. bill o'reilly's two decade reign as the king of fox news coming to an abrupt end. >> bill o'reilly is leaving the network in the wake of mounting all gagtss of sexual harassment and inappropriate conduct. >> his name shake show canceled amid growing sexual harassment allegations. fox news removing the anchor's name from the show. writing after a thorough and careful review of the negotiations, we have agreed bill o'reilly will not be
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returning. bill o'reilly who has been on vacation dismissed the accusations in a statement. that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today. that statement a sharp contrast to a new york times investigation which this month revealed that bill o'reilly hand fox paid out $13 million in settlements to women who launched harassment claims from bill o'reilly. >> these women not only stood up for their rights, but they were then driven out of the fox news and driven out of the television industry entirely. >> it was only nine months ago that fox news chief roger ails was ousted by the mur dox after his own firestorm of sexual harassment claims. just two weeks ago trump defended bill o'reilly, a friend of 30 years in a new york times
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interview. >> he's a good person. i think he may -- you know, i think he shouldn't have settled. personally, i don't think he shouldn't have settled. >> critics wondering if this latest firing goes far enough in addressing what they see as a systemic problem at the network. >> the day will come when rich persons with rich men will be able to buy their way out of this criminal activity and they will go to jail and they should go to way. >> will president trump weigh in on this? more urgently, are there other women coming forward, making accusations of sexual harassment. the 20th century board will meet. these issues will be a tough topic. >> stick around. we're going to need to talk to you about all of this for analysis because coming up we have more on bill o'reilly's down fall.
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bill o'reilly, the biggest star at fox news fired amid mounting sexual harassment allegations. let's discuss why this happened, what happens next, what does it mean? we have cnn political commentator margaret hoover who used to appear on his show.
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bill carter, reporter and editor at large for cnn politics, chris. so margaret you were there. when you heard about this, this is a big sur prize if he actually took this step. do you believe it is a justified step? >> absolutely. and i commend the new leadership at fox news, especially the younger generation, who are really taking steps to modernize a culture in need of it. >> why? >> there was a feeling there and alison and i have talked about this a bit, where it wasn't just sexual harassment. sexual harassment was one perversion in the culture. but there is a culture of bullying and a sense you had to say certain things, look a certain way, be a certain way in order to move up at fox news. >> yeah. or you would even be in trouble. forget moving up. you would be called to the wood
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shed and get in trouble if you didn't comply with his idea of what you should say was. i know you experienced that. i experienced that. one of the lessons -- there are many lessons here this morning. but one is that unchecked power is a bad thing. he ruled with an iron fist. >> it is the old absolute power adage. >> i was never sexually harassed by bill o'reilly, but he clearly could do what he wanted to do there. >> but they didn't fire him. they didn't need to wait. they could have done this a long time ago. when you look at what justified the actions, how do you stack up the motivators? the sexual harassment cases or -- >> the advertiser response and the sky news issue offer hanging everything. i think the economic issues dominated. i do think once it became
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obvious that all these advertisers -- and what, were there 50? >> at least. they all thought these guys probably won't come back if we keep him on the air because it won't let him. the advertisers won't come back. i do think the advertising pressure come nated. >> i thought a lot about the protesters in the last couple days, what it must be like to go through that gauntlet of protesters and as a woman to go into that office, having top protesters. >> the women at fox news have been under a microscope wondering if they too have been harassed. it seems to be there was this culture of silence in and around fox. i was aware of bill o'reilly's
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reputation, but not the details we've heard about recently. >> but also, look, the matter of fact is that with bill o'reilly on his show, it put cold water on the allegations. so him being there was at least tas sa a rejection of everything we're hearing now. >> remember, took into consideration one of the things that distinguished fox is ails never apologized for anything. there would be controversies, including people still there. >> including bill o'reilly. he said all of these allegations are false and it is just happening because he is a big celebrity. >> just sail the ship forward that those people are going to be with him no matter what.
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paint it as this is political correctness run amuck. this is the liberal media, how they're choosing to cover it. they don't like we're so popular. it is fascinating to me because that was so long their reputation built on ails and bill o'reilly, which is you just never say you're sorry, which by the way may have an echo of someone currently in the white house. >> how about the concern of the media movement, a movement that prides itself on taking personal responsibility, family values and moral riotousness. i was on his show as a culture warrior. now this is a man acts like a victim of the left, that he is now embracing the politics of victimization, instead of pretending this had nothing to
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do with his own actions. this is the irony of the modern conservative media racket. >> if bill o'reilly wants a job elsewhere, he has to continue to keep that up. he has to continue to say he's a victim of this liberal media attack in order to get a job. >> they feel like they're excluded and the rest of the world is out to get them, et cetera. >> that's not exclusive to conservatives, by the way. but visible in this story. a lot of the reaction by this has been to blame the messengers. >> so we still have many friends in fox news and there was a feeling -- i had high hopes when roger left that the culture would change, but it can be even trenched and there are still ves tajs of the roger era. so there is a feeling there is more to come. >> pending lawsuits and claims from other women that suggests there has not been the change that was needed at fox news.
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there is a meeting coming up this morning that the leaders of the company i wonder what other steps could be taken in the weeks and months to come. but a lot of deputies are still there running the show. they have big jobs on their hands. but some of them are under scrutiny themselves. >> sins of omission. what was ignored was empowered. how much do you have to change the management to change the culture? >> it has all of these culture flaws, right? the lieutenant who implemented that vision are all still there. all right? so you are not going to change a culture unless you change the individuals able to execute that vision on a day-to-day basis. and that's i think what's at the heart of the maintenance of the culture at fox. >> you have to start a new vision. roger was the vision tear for sure. i think everybody just did his
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bidding. people had to say his words. >> but i'd like to separate this. roger did a very good thing i think by elevating conservative intellectual vigor into the mainstream and that should be separated. i just think, you know, it is worth separating a man who did some good things and some very bad actions because as a conservative or republican, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water, right? >> there is nothing wrong with respecting women and being a conservative. >> which is why it would be wonderful to hear from the conservative media outlets. >> you know who we're not hearing from the is the president of the united states. he went out there and he said bill o'reilly is a good guy. but he opined on this matter as if he had knowledge of the facts. >> which he didn't. >> which there is no reason to believe he did saying he shouldn't have settled that
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first case. >> i'm sure he knew bill o'reilly's side. >> as president he defended bill o'reilly. do you think it is imcoupncumbe upon him to come out and say something? >> the one thread that ties whether it's bill o'reilly, putin, donald trump likes people who say nice things about him, who pay him the respect that he thinks he deserves. now, overwhelming evidence to the contrary, like the chemical attack in syria, maybe we do need to get involved there. but bill o'reilly always sort of respected donald trump as a figure in new york. donald trump likes that. donald trump will say nice things about you if you say nice things about him. >> the hope is it will change. if there is still this toxic
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culture elsewhere, you sign sunlight on it and it will change. thank you very much panel for sharing that. >> and if you cherish women, this is a long you don't stay out of. i use that phrase because that's the president's phrase. melissa et ridge also in the news. she's joining us ahead of cnn's sound tracks to talk about the songs that define history. she's had a role in that change. she's been affected by that change. interesting conversation ahead. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you.
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time now for the five things to know for your new day. fox news firing its prime time star bill o'reilly after what the company calls an extensive rerue of sexual harassment claims against him. bill o'reilly calls the allegations completely unfounded. >> rex tillerson calling for a comprehensive review of the iran nuclear deal. he warns that iran will emerge as a nuclear threat much like north korea if left unchecked. >> the "uss karl vincent"
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extending its deployment by 30 days. >> attorney general jeff sessions and homeland secretary john kelly heading to el paso today to check out southern border. >> the family of aaron hernandez is investigating the circumstances of his suicide in prison. authorities are also looking into the death. >> go to newdaycnn.com for more. >> a brand-new book take an unflinching look of what went wrong with hillary clinton's campaign all through the eyes of staffers and insiders. what is the message of the book "shattered"? next. irst. i got a leaf right away. a leaf is a hint that is connected to each person
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so there is this new book called "shattered" and it gives an in-depth look on hillary clinton's presidential campaign and includes stunning details on why and how she lost to donald trump. earlier we spoke to the authors about why the campaign manager strategy won out over bill clinton's? >> he comes from this newer generation of people so focussed on data and the efficiencies created by data and what they found was most efficient was to try to turn out people that already supported her and what
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was harder to do was to persuade people that weren't with her. so they abandoned a lot of the door knocking that you would normally do. look, there is room for art and science in politics. >> let's bring in jason miller, the senior communications advisor for the trump campaign. i'm sure he delights in the details of this book. and cnn political contributor hillary rosen. hillary, i want to start with you. i know this will pain you, this autopsy of looking back and they have all of these sources unnamed and named about what went wrong with hillary clinton's campaign. let me just read one little passage from it and then get your response. they say the campaign was an unholy mess fraught with petty jealousies, disported priorities and no sense of greater purpose. no one was in charge and no one has figured out how to make the campaign bigger than hillary.
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do you agree with any of that, hillary? >> i think that every campaign goes through its sort of -- every losing campaign, its back fighting about staff and dysfunction and organization and all those things about process. but i think what was most interesting to me about this book was the conversations, for instance, that they had after hillary lost the michigan primary to bernie sanders and there was a conversation with hillary, bill and the staff about what happened. and the staff was very focussed on process. we didn't do this. we didn't do that. and bill and hillary said we didn't have an economic message. and my view is they seem to know that they didn't have a solid enough economic message, but that they didn't do anything about it. so ultimately, obviously, hillary is responsible for this. i do think, you know, we're getting a lot of staff push back over the last 24 hours on this book and that's natural because when you put your heart and soul
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into a campaign for the last 18 months it is hard to look at a few gossipy messages and say that reflects the effort. >> of course they will say we don't like this representation of our efforts but they are not pushing back as the author said about the facts. >> well, they're doing something else, chris. they're not doing something else. and, you know, i'll say this frankly. they're not sharing with the rest of us what we have heard was a very rigorous, you know, analysis post campaign about why they lost. i'd like to hear that. i'd like to hear a little push back from them not on sort of, you know, the gossip of the moment in the book but what their analysis and investigation about why they think they lost other than jim comey. that's something i think we're still hungry for. >> jason, what is your take from the other side of the aisle, the winning side? >> it might surprise you a little bit here. very much agree with what
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hillary was saying. i think books like this are completely disrespectful to candidates who run for office and disrespectful to the opponents on the other side who worked so hard. we woke up every single day and fought to try to elect president trump and beat hillary clinton but now the election is over and these insider back biting off the record off the record accounts that set up to tear down people like secretary clinton and robbie muke are terrible for the political process. we're talking about stopping north korea and potentially a nuclear iran and this terrible deal that needs to get ripped up and these folks are out there talking trash. it goes to this cash me out culture. i think it's terrible. >> i will say, though that -- >> are you kidding me. hold on a second, hillary. the president tweets about this
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election all the time. he was doing it just a few days ago. the idea -- look, i love what you are exercising here. don't get me wrong. let's call it what it is. this book makes it seem like she lost. you didn't win. you can play that as fair/unfair. to say it is time to move on, we are not seeing any proof of that from the highest ranks of our government right now. >> chris, come on. let's go back for a moment. yes, i do think we need po postmortem to see what they did right and what they did wrong. but what we're talking about here are anonymous off the record sources that are going through and trashing people at a personal level. i don't think that does anything. there is a continued debate we say, too many in the media wanting the campaign to continue. we see the continues efforts to delegitimize the president and too many are trying to keep this campaign going.
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but, look, the president is clearly focussed on creating jobs and keeping our country safe. i think he's moved on and that's where our focus has been. i think books like this are terrible and i hope they find out who some of these leakers are and they need to take them to the wood shed. >> we're out of time, but we will see you very soon. hillary and jason, thank you. melissa etheridge is about to join us to talk about cnn sound track. >> calcium is key for good bone belt. we know that. but don't just rely on dairy products to get your fill. elizabeth cohen has some good sources of calcium for you in food as fuel. >> calcium occurs in many foods beyond just dairy. take kale for example. and the calcium in bok choy and
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♪ come to my window ♪ come on inside, wait by the light of the moon ♪ come to my window. >> that's an awesome music video. that is the grammy award winning song by melissa etheridge featured in cnn's sound tracks, sounds that denied history.
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it is fun to watch that old video. >> every time i see something like that, i think how quickly time has flown and here we are in 2017, you know. >> right. >> well, because they last. that's the point. part of the genius of this series you are in is that music can mark a moment. i guess it could work two ways. what's been your experience? >> i've actually had both. i grew up in the '60s and '70s. that's why i love this show because the music was a part of the culture. it was back in the '60s they were making music and nobody was thinking about money. nobody made a whole lot of money on music yet so it was natural and great stuff. >> so the show, the series is about the defining musical moment and how that's interwoven with history, but there's also the personal sound track of your life and come to my window was a
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big one personally, right, for you of what that song came to represent. >> it's kind of crazy because i wrote that song. very personal song to me and i almost didn't put it on my album because it was kind of a simple, you know, achy kind of relationship, is it ever going to be right. you know, can't go through the front door, got to go through the window and it happened to come out when i came out, you know, publically, and those two things really gave power to each other. >> we're talking like '93/'94. comes out. i remember your first hit in 1988, like the way i do. i was in high school. talk about sound track to your life. but did you have any inking that it would be the jet propulsion that that song was? >> i had no idea every time i
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sing i don't care what they think, i don't care what they say about this love anyway, that it would be fists in the air. >> that was just me. >> i had no idea. i love that part, but it's wonderful when you can create something and then the society just takes it and it creates its own thing. >> it is an anthem for lots of people. okay. so then there is also the big moments in history that a song can always trigger our memory of and, so, the berlin wall. you were there. >> i was there. people -- i'd lived a very charmed life. really kind of crazy. we happened to be touring europe in germany exactly when the wall was coming down. this was a -- if you remember 1989, which i do very well, this was when communism was kind of crumbling and they were leaving and walking through poland and things were -- and we knew that the berlin wall, that something was going to happen that night
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where we're driving in on a bus and my tour manager, he was german and he said i'm going to listen to the radio and if they start shooting people we'll turn around, but if not, who knows. when i woke up we were stuck in traffic with all the east germans going into berlin and the wall had -- i get goose bumps every time i think about it. right there i remember. cnn was brand-new. i almost went up and said i'm melissa etheridge. i'd love to do an interview with you. >> oh, my gosh. you had a front row seat on that moment in history. >> i have a memory. we have footage of this little girl. used to be you couldn't walk up to the wall because there were armed guards around it. and i remember her walking up and she just kicked the wall. i said there it is right there. that's the future. >> what do you think it is about music that is so powerful?
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>> music bypasses all the other channels that we usually proces things with. you know, you listen to the news. you get some information and then you think about it and then it goes into your heart. well, music goes straight into you. music you have rhythm, you have tones that we've had for ages and you hear it and then you think about it. and so it's good for us. it exercises the right side of our brain instead of the left side that we're also problem solving with and it's healthy for us to have music. it balances us. >> are there songs that changed your life other than yours? >> absolutely. i grew up in the '60s and '70s. it's funny. crosby stills and gnash was so big in bringing the social issues. >> no love for neil young? >> love me some neil young. little, you know, david crosby fathered two of my children. long story.
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but just joan baez is the people who were not just writing about it but on the front lines. and they still are. they're the ones that are still commenting and saying, you know, music and social issues go hand in hand. melissa, great to talk to you about this and thanks for contributing to the series. join us tonight for sound tracks, songs that defined history only on cnn. >> all right. how about you stick around for some more good stuff next.
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all right. it is time for the good stuff, and this one taking the crown for kindness, okay? you have abbie who doesn't let down syndrome stop her. she was nominated for prom queen at a texas high school. but when a friend of hers was announced as the winner, guess what the teenager did? she gave her crown to abbie. >> i did it because i know at that moment she would be even more happier than me and i felt like she deserved it more. >> what a nice gesture. abbie hit up with joy. her mom of course touched by the
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gesture. >> i was like oh my gosh. people are going to be, you know, mean to my child and everything because she's different. and that has not even remotely been the case. >> oh, my gosh. what a wonderful message that high school sends. >> and being prom queen is a big deal, but this memory i bet you will mean even more. >> time now for cnn news room with john berman. take it away, john. >> thank you for that. puts a smile on my face this morning. got a lot of breaking news this morning, so let's get to it. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, karma is a witch. but not with a w. in this case it is a j as in judge gone sa low curiel because the judge that candidate trump infamously, others say racistly

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