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revamped health care bill when there is no plan that anyone seems to know about outside a small group? we will dig into that. congress vases a deadline to avoid government shutdown. they need to pass a spending bill to keep the federal government running. day 92 of the trump presidency. let's start with joe johns live at the white house. give us the latest, joe. oh, joe? >> reporter: it's another attempt to salvage a measure of success after all the recent failures on health care during the administration. important to say donald trump very much needs a win and he needs it now. >> we have a good chance of getting it soon. i would like to say next week. >> reporter: president trump pushing hard for a legislative win before his 100th day in office next week. reviving his health care effort
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that failed weeks ago. >> the plan gets better and better and better. it's gotten really, really good. a lot of people are liking it a lot. >> reporter: republicans want to help the president deliver on one of the key campaign promises as democrats remain skeptical a deal will be reached. >> you can put lipstick on a sow and call her monique and she's still a pig. that's this bill. >> reporter: a draft proposal published thursday by politico contained a ban on patients for pre-existing conditions. it would allow states to seek waivers for the mandates if they show it would be in the public interest. concessions aimed at placating the moderates and conservatives. >> difficult to do. we're very close. it basically makes good on the promises. >> reporter: this comes at the same time congress faces a
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deadline next week to pass a massive spending bill to avert a government shutdown. >> i want to get both. are you shocked to hear that? i think we want to keep the government open, don't you agree? i think we'll get both. >> reporter: president trump asking congress to include $1.4 billion to begin building his border wall. the trump white house will have one victory. the washington post reporting the trump administration was instrumental in securing the release of the egyptian-american aide worker in prison for three years on unproven charges along with her husband and several other humanitarian workers. the news comes trump after president trump praises the egypt president at the white house. >> we are very much behind president el sisi. he has done a fantastic job and a difficult situation. >> reporter: the freed egyptian-american and her
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husband are both expected to be at the white house to meet with the president as early as today according to the report in the washington post. this weekend, the president is expected to remain in washington unlike other weekend when he has gone to mar-a-lago hoping to rack up more wins before the first 100 days in. >> joe johns, thank you. joining us to discuss is a.b. stoddard for real clear politics and cnn political analyst david gregory and patrick healy. david gregory, this is a confounding situation. we understand why health care is necessary with the domino effect of cbo scoring and show savings to move on to tax reform and infrastructure. are you hearing about anybody who has seen a plan outside of this tight group? something that would show proof that there is some kind of momentum here? >> that was the word i was looking for.
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nothing that shows momentum that breaks the disagreement just within republican ranks to move this farther along. i think you saw the debate over health care before it crashed and burned over replacing and repealing obamacare. i don't think you will be able to gin this up in a few days and get it across the finish line despite whatever conversations were happening. even the desk description they are having. i think threading the needle on this and trying to engage democrats in a difficult negotiation over keeping the government open is a lot to accomplish here in a few days. >> a.b., the president is bullish on this and we do hear that the freedom caucus and mark meadows of the freedom caucus is
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sort of, you know, confabbing with the moderate tuesday group and tom mcarthur has something up their sleeve and reached a compromise? >> they put it on paper and they have told the white house that they think they can scratch off another 18 to 20, i believe, yes votes. that obviously would get them there. i think the desire is there. that is the one thing that binds the whole conference and the white house. they feel this is a seven-year promise they have to deliver on. beyond what chris was referring to. the sequencing of finding the savings from this bill and moving on to tax reform and budget battle. i think it is heartening they have been at it. they have been talking to the moderates and tuesday group. they are driving changes.
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charlie dent says he has seen the language and nothing has changed his mind. that means they are still in a sticky wicket in terms of the coverage you take away and how much you mess with the community rating. do sick people pay more or people with pre-existing conditions. it doesn't sound if you look at the combination with the spending battle debate like they can really get over the finish line in time. this would be fine if president trump would be willing to look the other way and sign a plain vanilla bill on government funding next week. at the last minute, he is asking for a lot of funding and stuff that democrats oppose and republicans as well. that could make it challenging. >> they seem to have a basic understanding if the government shuts down, that is on congress. patrick, maybe a little bit of a calculation. a.b. uses a cricket analogy. you have a game going on. all of the people running in different directions and nobody
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knows the score. that is the american experience of cricket usually. i could not find any republican, forget democrats, who say i have seen something. i'm comfortable now because dot, dot, dot. >> no one. come together over waivers for states if they push this through and win over at least some conservatives in the house by offering. saying we're keeping all of the goodies from obamacare in the reform bill. we will get you the new waivers. you will look at members of the freedom caucus who are going to say this is a lot of swiss cheese here. sort of hopes he we get waivers to get out of big government health care plan. here is the thing. chris and alisyn, we are seeing the house coming back on monday and republicans are going to be asked to carry water for president trump on trying to get tens of billions of dollars for
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a wall -- not a down payment and finally a wall. they know that is an he nohenor fight. then the two-track picking off republican votes to get the health care bill through. as they are trying to make this wall happen. you will have total democratic opposition. as a.b. said, doing these two things at once. usually doesn't work. >> that's just in the house. that assumes you still have the whole senate to deal with. they have an entire different list. >> david if there is one thing we learned of passing a continuing resolution for spending, it goes until 11:59 on the night before the government would shutdown and here we are again. the final hours of this week. >> it usually takes when you do get a big spending bill, you have compromise on both sides. i think chris is right. the white house, i'm sure has
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made a calculation. they don't want to shut the government down. the issue with the wall that all of a sudden the wall that mexico is supposed to pay for now the administration is asking for tens of billions of dollars for it. it is a non starter for democrats. the health care bill as complicated as it is, if you think about how it will be i implemented and who it effects and keep spending for premiums down if you allow paver ewaivwa. this allows a lot of time and campaign to build up. the idea of coming off a loss and jam it through. i don't see it is possible. they have to scratch off the votes in the house and then go to the senate. this strikes me as a white house that is running in a frenzy way to get to the 100-day mark with real accomplishments here. that's not a way to govern. >> they are trying to get real
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accomplishments by next saturday , the 100-day mark. they are looking at double defeat on health care. they lost the first time. they will come back looking like they are rush jam somethng through the system. they have two knocks against them on health care. >> you also have the he versus they issue. we say they here because this is not something owned and spearheaded by the president. he hasn't used the bully pulpit as many expect. we did see that, a.b. stoddard with the release of an egyptian-american. three years in egypt. arguably held wrongfully after the meeting between the president of the united states and el sisi, the leader of egypt. that should be a notable success for the president, no? >> oh, yes. this is something that the obama administration was trying to do and anytime you bring an american home from prison where she was wrongly charged and held
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for years with lots of mysterious charges and delays and trial and all this stuff because of el sisi's crackdown on the civil society groups over there. she started a group helping children. this is something they worked on since the visit of el sisi to the white house as you know obama did not have him to the white house. trump was there being very warm and full of praise for el sisi. did not mention human rights violations in egypt. it will be a big victory lap for him when they come home. the family is thrilled. this is definitely a good win for him at the end of a week where people are questioning him and calling president erdogan in turkey and calling him on a referendum as dangerous and a creep toward dictatorship. the question of where the "uss carl vinson" is at the moment. they will be happy at the white house today. >> a big win they can tout. thank you, guys.
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stick around. we have more questions. we have breaking news. investigation intensifying in france after isis claims responsibility for the attack in paris that left a police officer dead and two others wounded. could the terror attack insurance influence t influence the presidential election in days? we have melissa bell with more. >> reporter: alisyn, we have a clearer picture of what went on down on the champs-elysees last night. a second suspect had been looked for by french police. this after a tip from belgium authorities. we confirmed this morning that man looked for. that second suspect beyond the attacker killed immediately after carrying out the attack on champs-elysees, that second suspect has handed himself in to belgian authorities. alisyn, a number of significant questions remain. we hope to get more answers over the course of the day when we hear from the paris prosecutor
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later on. the man who was killed here last night, the man who carried out the attack, we believe reporting suggests this was a man on the radar of authorities. however, what we now had confirmed to us by authorities is he was not what the french say he was not on the list. why does that matter? we are at the end in the final leg of the very important presidential election race. one that is more controversial and difficult to call than anyone can remember. marine le pen has been calling for those on the list to be shipped out of the country. whether or not the man who ca d carried out the attack is likely to prove significant if he was or wasn't on the list. this is being ramped up into sunday's vote. chris sgrch . >> you have so many people on thes list. big questions pressing forward.
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thank you. we are following breaking news from germany. prosecutors arresting 28-year-old man linked to last week's bomb attack on a bus carrying the soccer team from dortm nur dortmund. three explosive devices shattered the bus. the german citizen bought team stocks in hopes of making a big profit afsh tter the attack. the white house trying to crackdown on leakers. perhaps the most infamous leaker. julian assange. that's next.
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the united states is planning to go after wikileaks founder julian assange. the justice department is seeking to prepare the arrest of the holed up in the ecuador embassy. we have shimon with more. >> reporter: the justice department probe of assange and wikileaks dates back to 2010
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when assange first gained attention revealing u.s. secrets stolen by the former intelligence documents from chelsy manning. and the obama administration determined it would be difficult to bring charges against assange because wikileaks wasn't alone in publishing documents stolen by manning. several newspapers, including the new york times, did as well. chris, this is significant. the u.s. view of wikileaks and assange changed after they found wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden, the former nsa analyst who fled to russia. it appears the current administration has taken a stronger position that charges
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can be brought against assange. take a listen to cia director mike pompeo last week. >> wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. julian assange has pre-tretende first american justice hand freed them. >> reporter: assange is untouchable as long as he remain at the embassy. extradition is unlikely to happen. >> thank you, shimon. let's bring back our panel. we have a.b. stoddard and david gregory and joining us is phil mudd. so interesting, phil, to hear from cia director mike pompeo there. saying how pernicious that
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julian assange after president trump said i love wikileaks. look at the exciting information from wikileaks. it was about hillary clinton during the campaign. so what do you think about wikileaks and do you think they will be able to make the case that the first amendment doesn't apply here for julian assange's protection? >> this will be portrayed as a political decision. the critical question we were talking about 30 seconds ago is if the case changed. instead of revealing information, downtoid the justi department and others believe assange was moving edward snowden. alisyn, i think the horse is out of the barn on this one. in the past, leaks used to be somebody call the new york times or cnn. now a new age of transparency where a35-year-old says i don't
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believe in government. i'll dump data on a web site and do it anonymously and reveal tens of thousands of documents. i think this is the wave of the future future. if i were the cia director, i would be critical, but saying how do we take advantage of this over the long term? this won't change. >> david gregory, pompeo and the government has something here. nefarious and a breach of people's privacy, that is something else. >> the hypocricy. people were all too happy to benefit wikileaks as long as it hurt their opponent. that is irresponsible. now they one the government and see how pernicious wikileaks can be. to phil's point, whether the
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case is changed and the statements that assange has made or evidence that has come to light of a conspiracy. i think what is interesting is you look at the cases not as wikileaks as an organization not like the new york times, but somehow working with those who are breaking the law to gets information and then publishing thats information. were they working with a state actor like russia to hack information and publish it. i think it would be evidence of conspiracy which would go beyond where the justice department under obama to file charges against assange and wikileaks is the same as going after a major news organization for producing leaks of material that would be classified. they thought they would run amuck of the first amendment. maybe the administration wants to push the envelope on that alone or maybe they have something specific on assange. >> a.b., let's talk about the
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travel ban of the six or seven muslim majority countries. a judge in hawaii blocked it. now attorney general jeff sessions is speaking in a rather dismiss s dismissive judge. let me play that. >> we are confident that the president will prevail on appeal and particularly in the supreme court if not the ninth circuit. this is a huge matter. i really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the specific can issue an order that stops the president of the united states from what appears to be clearly his statutory and constitutional powers. >> so the judge is not a cast away on an island somewhere. he is in our 50th state. hawaii. a.b., this is the first time
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that we heard the situation criticize judges. >> i don't think people were surprised when president trump went after judge curiel and other judges once in office blocking the travel ban. it is surprising for the attorney general of the united states to do that himself. you can see in this administration as we mentioned before this kind of freak-out over the 100-day mark and the need to convince the base of how they accomplish things by next saturday, april 29th. for the attorney general to be criticizing not a ruling, which is fine, but a judge and talking about how he is living on an island somewhere as if hawaii is not a state on the mark levine show shows there is a lot of energy in convincing the base of they are trying to fulfill the promises. i think he made a mistake. it is not appropriate for jeff sessions to criticize judges.
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you saw them try to walk back the hawaii part in the statement. he loves hawaii. he has a relative born there or something. in the end, he needs to stay on decisions and away from federal judges. >> who loves hawaii more than jeff sessions? >> it wasn't a mistake. he just got caught. this is sessions, by the way. a lot of the stuff about his past came down to this. he could casually say things were offensive. that is what this is. he doesn't like the outcome of it. there is no indication that he was talking about fiji and just happened to say hawaii. he did it on purpose. he got caught. he doesn't like the outcome. >> i would say subjecti-- >> that wasn't his point. >> i get it. to a.b.'s point, there is a return to first principles of
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the administration. they are trying to make an argument in the white house whether reviving unfair trades practices in canada and steel imports. they are trying to go back to gin up the base and get back to the nationalist tone. they want to go back and say we countered defeats and not necessarily defeats. we are doing better. it look s frenetic. >> we kept you out over whether or not hawaii is a state. >> i know skipper and gilligan live there. >> you would be the professor by the way. >> thank you, panel. we have a lot to get to. jeff sessions and secretary john kelly will be live at this hour 11:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. >> that will be a good interview. kate bolduan. more demonstrations expected
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instability growing in venezuela. amid violent anti-government protests. the u.s. pulled into the chaos after venezuela seizes a gm plant there. cnn's shasta darlington joins us now with more. a situation that seems to be going from bad to worse. >> reporter: that's right, chris. it just doesn't seem to be stopping. the venezuela opposition back out on the streets on thursday. they now vowed to keep up the pressure on president nicolas maduro with three more days of protests. we also now know three people were killed during massive demonstrations on wednesday. the crowds yesterday were a bit smaller, but ended with similar violent clashes with security forces firing tear gas on those protesters who cover faces and throw rocks. they carry signs say no more
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dictatorship. that's what they think venezuela is turning into. they have a clear set of demands. starting with elections. they want a timetable for regional elections which have been repeatedly delayed. chris, what is notable is the sustained wave of demonstrations. it started at the beginning of the month. this comes after years of economic hardship. it feels like the last straw was finally broken. they have been out on the streets. it looks like they will keep it up. as you mentioned, we are seeing the united states sort of drawn into the fray with general motors announcing it will halt all of the operations in the country after authorities seized one of its plants. alisyn. >> shasta. thank you. we will monitor it. thousands of iraqi civilians trapped inside mosul's old city. isis is using them as human shields. cnn has rare access.
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cnn getting a rare look in the battle of mosul. amid tense gunfire, isis is holding thousands of hostages as human shields. nick paton walsh has the latest from irbil, iraq. >> reporter: alisyn, as many as 400,000 people could be held in the old city of mosul. the key strategic goal in those fighting isis in iraq and the old city, the densely packed difficult place, 400,000 people possibly held effectively as hostages and human shields by isis in some of the nasty conditions. ground down to the bones. mosul is quiet. where once it bustled. you ask where are the people? where have isis taken them? the answer is here. trapped in the war on the old
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city. the densely populated holdout of isis. years of stalemate and shooting waits. a few alleyways down, isis mass hostage standoff begins. tens of thousands held as human shields. you can see this drone pictures filmed in a counter attack and see how tight the streets are packed and how everyone. the mosque from where baghdadi gave his only speech. each street a window. the now truth here. isis leaves nothing in tact behind it. there in the distance is the
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reason why isis are fighting so hard in the dense winding streets to hold the iraqi police and military back. that is the mosque. very much the ideological heart of iraq of the self declared caliphate. they want more american precision fire power. up until now, the help is weak. he says they have advanced precise weapons and with intelligence, they can help us better. so far, astonishingly, this girl, age 4, stayed in her home and survived. and does not flinch once. there is no life under isis. her father says no food. no water. no electricity. we had to dig a well for water. the first thing she has known is the police. she loves them like kids in her
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school. and there as the shells still rain down. those will never leave. and those who do as fast as they can. far enough out, they are ferried to camps. remains of isis into kill zones. >> translator: they would besiege us and use us as human shields. >> translator: my brother and the rest of his family are besieged. isis hit them with sticks dragging him away. he is crippled. >> reporter: these voices on a cacophany of fear. the coalition used against those iraqi forces there and day by
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day, streams of civilians slip out if they can. we saw a small part of the fight there. potentially there are tens and hundreds of thousands of people trapped. the bitter end of isis in iraq where they are believed to hold 7% of terrorist. all eyes, particularly those in the white house, focusing on the northern city of the caliphate of isis declared raqqah where the offensive may get under way in the coming weeks. chris. >> nick, thank you. an important point. they have to waves of victims. the one they take out with the munitions and those who live the reality. >> like the little girl. that is telling that she was smiling, nick, because she was excited to be interviewed and the hail of bullets. nick points out she wasn't flinching. she is so used to it. >> that is all she has known. you can go in and win the fight. what happens the next day? how do you make life better for
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the little girls like that? that's the question. big story we have been following. o'reilly is out. but what will replace him? not talking about what show comes next. will there be real change there and at other companies? is this going to be the catalyst for widespread culture shift? you will hear from three women. >> actually four. >> four women. can i get five who worked with o'reilly at fox? this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov tech: when your windshield trust safelite autoglass.. our exclusive trueseal technology means a strong, reliable bond.
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this story is getting buzz. quarterback eli manning pushing back against the allegations he was involved in a memorabilia scheme. andy scholes has the bleacher report. this is about helmets? >> yes. the collector is suing eli manning and john mara and others in a scam to sell him fake game used items. eli angrily denied the allegations. >> i have never done what i accused of doing. i have not had any reason to do anything of that nature. i have done nothing wrong and i have nothing to hide. i tried to do everything with class and be a stand-up citizen. that's what i have done and
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that's being attacked right now. >> eli addressing the accusat n accusations from 2014 after the plaintiff filed a motion with testimony that included the e-mail from manning to the equipment manager. in the e-mail, eli asked for helmets that can pass for game used. the case is scheduled to go to trial in september. lebron james leading the cavs to the greatest comeback in history against the pacers. indiana came out on a mission. opening up a 25-point halftime lead. you cannot count out lebron. he played every minute of the second half leading cleveland all the way back. lebron finishing with 41 points. cavs win 119-114. they will go for the series sweep on sunday. alisyn. >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. first roger ailes and now
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this conversation publicly. i don't know what silence is getting us. so, let's just talk about it. i know sometimes it is awkward, but it is time. margaret, do you feel that this week in particular after roger's demise in july and now bill o'reilly exiting. is this a tipping point? >> look. i hope there continues to be changes at fox news and there is an environment where women feel free to be able to talk about it and don't feel harassed. one of the things i would like to see because the rise of fox news is also led to the rise of conservative celebrity personalities and rise of other competitive conservative media outlets. i would like to see a resounding rejection of the behavior. >> are there certain outlets decried this? >> a review denouncing this and
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making a case this is not conservative. it reports for family values. this behavior should be flatly rejected. >> mary katherine, roger ailes walked away with $40 billion. it doesn't feel like a puni punishment for them. >> we are turning a corner that seeing women can deal with issues and move forward in careers and having that modelled in a public way. i have to say, people have asked me why are you not talking about it? i don't have much to tell. i never met roger ailes which is strange. i sat across from bill. i was mostly in d.c. which is important distinction. the environment was different in d.c. than new york. i worked with bill for ten years weekly. nothing bordering on sexually inappropriate with him. our relationship was
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frustrating. he was often paternalistic. you can see i worked it out mostly on camera by yelling at him. maybe once a month or six weeks. i know other ladies did that as well. that was the extent of it. i do think that one of the problems with doing business the way it was done is that although i did not experience it and frankly didn't see it and i assure you i would not had been quiet had i. every woman who walks through the doors has questions hanging over her head and odd interactions she has to have about this. people wondering about you. none of us deserves it. >> now we do. everybody asks me now. did this happen to you? what was your experience. everybody wants to know about it. it was all so shrouded under roger. kirsten, you wrote an article you are getting criticism for. you wrote a column in 2014
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entitled "bill o'reilly is not a s sexist." >> i don't write my headlines. my editor and i are arguing about this. if you read the column, i don't make grand declarations. i would not make those declarations about anybody. what i was talking about is bill had been accused because he attacked women of being sexist or criticized him. my point is he is an equal opportunity offender. i think anybody on his show, he goes after men. he goes after women. i don't think bill disrespects all women. i think he took me seriously. i think he took mary katharine seriously. he had other behavior that was problematic. the behavior i talked about and he didn't understand why it was
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offensive. thank you for your blondeness. people want an easy story where bill is rotten to the core and nothing good ever happens. that's not the story. there are other things that were good about him. mary katharine talked about it. we were able to go on the show in a way other hosts will not tolerate. he wasn't all bad. there were problems, obviously. i think both things can be true. >> absolutely. by the way, the same was true of roger ailes. he could be charming and khar s charasmatic and bullying and sexist. i'm glad you are making those points. all of us get the question. why did you stay? >> i would go and sit in front of bill every week like kirsten and mary katharine did. it is extraordinary to see how the magic is made by one of the
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best in the business. >> the number one show in cable news. the golden opportunity. >> it was. it was told to me all the time. hoover, i'm making you a star. that felt a little patronizing. it felt there was no life beyond fox. it was an opportunity. by the way, i learned a lot by watching bill o'reilly. >> by the way, you all fought back. on camera. you alls tossled. >> that is why he invited us back. we stood up to him and give it back to him. >> there is a larger point. we had iron clad contracts and roger intimidated people who tried to hire us away. that is a longer story. mary katharine, where are you with the two men going down so
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publicly? >> i think the tipping point is in modelling the behavior you can't come forward and there is life after making that report. you know, somewhat ironically, the experience i had with this inappropriate behavior was long ago on my first job. i threw a flag on that stuff as a 22-year-old. there was risk. it was scary. maybe that's my story to tell to young women. you can do this. you can move on with your career. know what your limits are. you can call inappropriate inappropriate and trust your judgment. you can still have a career. that is what we are getting out of this. you can tell the story and move on in the gretchens and megyn kelly can come forward. they can make something after that. that's the way it should be. you should not have to be subject to inappropriate behavior. i hope this culture is on the way to repairing. there are so many good friends and

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