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voting is under way in france right now, and there is marine le pen casting her vote at a precinct. this is live from paris as france decides who will be their leader. >> we're all over that story. plus, learn mother abore ab taliban's deadly raid on friday that may have killed as many as 140 people. and people took to the streets around the world in support of science as president trump defended his actions on the environment. >> live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, welcome to our viewers here in the
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united states and around the world. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. historic voting in france has been under way for about three hours now as the country begins the process of picking a new president. with 11 diverse candidates in the race, including this one right here, marine le pen, voters have plenty of choices. someone who has already voted right here is emmanuel macron. he's a centrist and relative newcomer to french politics, but it's unlikely any of the candidates will get the 50% needed to avoid a runoff. >> the final outcome has the potential to transform the political landscape in europe and beyond. more than 45 million voters are expected to cast ballots by the time that the polls close.
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cnn is live in paris. melissa bell following the situation there at a polling station in the 18th. we're looking at these live images. presently 5:01 a.m. here in the united states. 11:02 in paris. marine le pen there casting her ballot. tell us about the feeling of people as they go to the polls. >> reporter: well, on one hand, a sort of bewilderment because there is, as you mentioned a moment ago, this vast array of candidates. 11 candidates in all with very different programs, many of them with profoundly radically different ideas of what france should be if they're going to be elected. so this sense of bewilderment faced with such a vast political choice but also a sense it is essential to come out and vote. you can see behind me the door to that voting station, there's been a steady trickle of voters coming here over the course of the last three hours.
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all of the ones we've spoken to said it is absolutely essential to come out and vote. they had a real sense of taking part in a historic poll. i think that is the overriding feeling here in france this morning. a certain apprehension as we look ahead to an idea of how the results will be by about 8:00 p.m. tonight. but a sense that it has never been so important here in france to cast your vote because france is really deciding what kind of country it wants to be going ahead. that could be very different to all that's preceded it or slightly more of the same, even though you mentioned emmanuel macron that we saw vote a short while ago. he also represents a change, even though politically he represents continuity and the kind of policies he would bring in. one of the big questions is the participation rate. how many people are going to take part in this poll. marine le pen, who we saw voting a moment ago, as a steady, strong base of voters, a determined electorate that will go out and make itself heard. how will the electorate of emmanuel macron shape up? that's the big unknown.
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he's, after all, never stood before. it's an untested electorate. it is that question, the participation rate, that could prove crucial bit end of the day. >> melissa, you touch on this, but i remember here in the united states, there's always that question of the undecided voter, that person who waits and waits and waits and waits until they get to the polling station. then they finally make that decision about who they will cast their vote for. so there in france and across paris, how important will it be for the undecided voter? how important is that bloc of voters? >> reporter: extremely important. they are at historic highs. normally at this stage in a french presidential election, many more voters have made up their minds. one of the surprising things of the last-minute opinion polls we've seen over the course of the last week or so are how many people simply hadn't decided, really waiting until the last minute. we spoke to a man a short while
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ago who said he took the 11 bits of paper of the names of the candidates with him into the booth so he could look at them once he was alone and really faced with that choice. it gives you an idea of the fact that many people have struggled to make up their mind because the political spectrum is so vast, the number of candidates is so great because the proposals on the table are so vastly different, and because the potential changes for france are as huge as they are. i think many people are really wait until the last minute to almost decide with a sort of sense from their gut how it is that they should vote. again, huge uncertainty, and there will be right up until polls close, george, at 8:00 p.m. tonight. >> melissa bell on the streets of the french capital giving us a sense of the feeling of people as they head to the polls. thank you for the reporting. we'll of course stay in touch with you and our other correspondents and analysts as we follow this very important vote. >> we're going to talk more about it now. let's bring in a political
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scientist and analyst with the university of paris. thank you, julian. i want to pick up on what melissa was just saying about people going to the very last second and being in agony over whom to vote for. what do you make of that? >> indeed. well, people here actually wanted to change politics, the way it was done. the media and the political parties are among the least believed institutions in france here. there was some polls showing that people did not believe in the media and politics anymore. so there's a strong will to change what we call but not knowing what it means, but the system. so all the candidates presented themselves as anti-system. so it might mean different things regarding to their ideology. it was never defined what was the system. was it the political party in itself? is it the media, the justice
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system for the two candidates who have trouble with the justice now days? but people want some changes. so it's a very important election here. >> it certainly reflects, in many way, the election we just saw in the united states. people voted for change because they were fed up with the government. but this doesn't just affect france. it would affect europe. >> absolutely. i think it's a transnational trend. in the u.s. with the last presidential elections, with the brexit. we see that political prism between the left and the right. socialism on one side and conservativism on the other side is changing now. the new lines are between anti-globalization, pro-european t tendencies, liberal and conservative, but in the way
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that it might change society. so the two first candidates, even though it's very thin, we're getting to the statistics, but the new trend is the fact that actually like your reporter said, emmanuel macron and marine le pen are the two power brokers in this election. when the two traditional candidates, the socialist party and republican party, are third or fourth and fifth in this election. it means people really want some change. emmanuel macron is really liberal. the other is about national conservativism, marine le pen. >> we'll wait and see. many, many hours of voting yet for this first phase. julien theron, thank you for your thoughts on it. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we're following breaking news now in north korea. north korea detained another american citizen. sources tell the south korean
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news agency, the korean-american man was arrested as he was trying to leave the country. let's go live to cnn's ivan watson, following this story live in seoul, south korea. ivan, at this point, still unclear exactly why he was arrested. cnn independently working to confirm, verify this information. but what more do we know about this? >> reporter: that's right. again, i'll preface this by saying this is according to the yonhap news agency here in south korea. we have not been able to independently confirm this. according to their report, there was a former professor from a university in china, a korean-american man by the fairly common korean surname kim, who was detained at pyongyang airport in north korea on friday while leaving the country. we don't know the circumstances, why this person may have been detained. but an american citizen who
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reportedly had spent about a month in north korea. the university he had worked at in china was one that had a fairly active korean affairs department and language department. this individual is believed to have spent about a month in north korea working on relief efforts for that country. if this report is true, george, if we can confirm it, then it would be now the third american citizen currently in detention in north korea. a university of virginia student was detained in january of 2016, still in custody, has been charged with 15 years of hard labor for taking down a sign, a political party sign in a hotel in pyongyang. and kim dong-chul arrested in
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2015, charged with espionage, receiving at least ten years of hard labor for his sentence. might add the practice of detaining foreigners, particularly american citizens, at pyongyang airport, that seems to be a common tactic by the north korean security services. they have on numerous occasions now over the course of the last four years grabbed particularly american individuals who were on their way out of the country, in some cases taking them off the plane when they were about to take off or as they hand in their passports. then they've been held for a matter of weeks, months, or as we've heard, years. >> ivan, just pushing towaforwan that, you've given us as much information as we know. again, cnn working to independently confirm this story. that's the story as we know it presently. pushing forward on that, for americans who are there, who travel to north korea, is that
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sort of a constant concern, fear, danger about going to that nation and not being able to leave? >> reporter: i have traveled on assignment to north korea. it is a vastly different country from any other country i've ever worked in. my movements were very restricted by north korean officials as a visiting journalist. there is a small tourism industry of people who want to go on kind of adventure tourism to visit that nation, to the north of the demilitarized zone, . there was recently a marathon there that some people travelled to poyongyang to participate in. the fact is, there is also this growing list of particularly u.s. citizens who again are stopped at pyongyang international airport after leaving. one of them was 85-year-old merrill newman, a veteran of the
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korean conflict, an american, who was pulled off his plane in october of 2013, held for nearly two months, before being released. he had to give a televised confession for crimes he allegedly committed during the korean war more than half a century ago. another was jeffrey fowl, who was detained at the airport, an american citizen in may of 2014 and released in october of 2014. so there's a pattern there. these gentlemen also detained at the airport during what appeared to have been a tourism trip. in the case of this gentleman, he was an academic who appeared to have been visiting there to participate in some kind of a cultural exchange on behalf of the north korean people. so it can be an adventure tourism destination, but once you're caught by the north koreans, you are not allowed to leave. due to the tense situation between washington and pyongyang, the u.s. government
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has very little leverage when it comes to working on behalf of these detained american citizens. >> it is good to get your insight on that, from your travels. our own will ripley has done a great jdeal of reporting there. something to keep in mind as we continue to follow that story. ivan, thank you. afghanistan is in mourning this sunday. sources say as many as 140 afghan soldiers were killed when taliban fighters dressed as soldiers opened fire on an afghan army base during prayers. one journalist described last hour the circumstances of the attack. twonchts afghan nation >> two afghan army vehicles came into the base. they blew their way through the second control post and unleashed a shooting spree, both inside a dining facility and
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outside the mosque. the way they entered the grounds, the base, is pretty remarkable. they were apparently dressed in army uniforms but also posed as injured soldiers. they had casts around their legs. still, it is quite remarkable they made it all the way to the base, where a lot of the soldiers they found were unarmed, which is the reason they could kill that many people. it might very well be the deadliest taliban attack on national security forces seninc the taliban were ousted in 2001. when this attack took place, the president condemned it and then called the taliban infidels, which is a very harsh condemnation in this country. i think that's something to do with the fact that the taliban attacked people as they were coming out from a mosque, which is further than a lot of people here thought the taliban would go. >> our journalist there speaking
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with us from afghanistan. the opposition in venezuela marched in silence saturday in memory of those killed in anti-government protests. at least 22 people have been killed this month. the government says nine of them were electrocuted when they tried to loot a bakery. the opposition calls the president a dictator and blames him for the country's brutal economic crisis. >> translator: i, for example, am here. i'm 24 years old and refuse to leave the country. my entire family is here. my future is here, and i want it to be so. that's why i'm here and will continue to be here until we see a change or at least until one of the points that we are demanding is fulfilled and we have been in the streets for more than 20 days making demands of the authorities. >> the opposition says the president is blocking efforts to hold regional elections. 5:16 in the morning here in the united states. on the east coast, ahead on "cnn newsroom," a shutdown looms over capitol hill. what lawmakers have to do to keep the government up and
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so congratulations on behalf of melania and myself and the entire nation. >> sergeant first class lost part of his leg after being wounded in afghanistan. he attended the ceremony in a wheelchair, accompanied by his wife. the purple heart is awarded to service members wounded or killed in combat. this was the president's first trip to the walter reid military medical center near washington. there's some noise on social media. some people apparently expressing questions about why the president congratulated the soldier after he was wounded. >> congratulated. very busy week ahead here in the united states for politics. congress returns from recess as the clock ticks down on a possible government shutdown. it's going to run out of money unless a spending bill is passed by friday. >> to do that, republicans have to overcome party divisions and
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satisfy at least some democrats. our athena jones reports. >> hi there. a big week ahead here in washington. house republican leadership held a brief conference call with the entire caucus today to talk about this coming week and made it clear that passing a bill to keep the government running is the top priority and will be the primary focus of this coming week. we know a couple of things the white house wants to see included in that funding measure. one is money for the hiring of more immigration agents. another is money for the border wall the president promised on the campaign trail. senate democrats, though, say that the border wall money is a nonstarter. they do not want to see that in this bill. they're also opposed to including the money for immigration agents in this spending bill. so the big question is will the president sign a bill to keep the government running that doesn't include money for the border wall. my colleague dana bash spoke with homeland security secretary john kelly about this. watch. >> let's start with the border
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wall with mexico and how it relates to keeping the government open. if congress doesn't send president trump a government funding bill by midnight on friday, the government will run out of money and a shutdown would begin. so will the president go to the mat and insist on funding his border wall as part of this stopgap government funding measure? >> dana, i think it goes without saying that the president has been pretty straight forward about his desire and the need for a border wall. so i would suspect he'll dot right thing for sure, but i will suspect he will be insistent on the funding. >> so there you heard secretary kelly sounding pretty certain that the president would insist on border wall funding, but the president himself sounded a bit less definitive about that in an interview he gave to the associated press. he told the a.p., i want the border wall, my base definitely wants the border wall, but asked whether he would sign a bill that doesn't include that funding, he said, i just don't
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know. so to use one of the president's turns of phrase, we'll see what happens on the border wall funding issue next week. i should mention one gop source was on that conference call, said republicans were still in negotiations on the final points of the spending bill and hope to get it on the floor friday. friday, by the way, is the deadline. back to you. >> athena jones, thank you. the potential government shutdown comes as mr. trump reaches a benchmark in his presidency. next saturday he will have been in office for 100 days. for a look at what's he's accomplished, we spoke earlier to scott lucas, a professor of international politics at the university of birmingham in england. here's what he had to say. >> governing is tough, and i think president trump may not realize it, but his administration does. there were very bold promises here. we were going to talk about sweeping acts regarding trade.
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we were going to talk about acts regarding removing environmental protections. we were going to talk about acts to get rid of obamacare. we were going to talk about tax reform. all of this in the first 100 days. it was in his supposed contract for america. what he has been able to do is push through executive orders to do some of that. so ironically, given we had earth day yesterday, he stripped away a lot of the environmental and scientific regulations that president obama brought in, but he hasn't yet got a major piece of legislation through congress. despite all the show he'll make this week about introducing a tax reform bill, he won't get that any time soon either. >> look, so when there's any talk of a possible government shutdown, partial or full, we heard athena jones reporting on this just a moment ago, but if a shutdown were to come to pass, which political group would take the heat for it? >> everybody tends to take heat in a shutdown. we saw that during the obama years. when the republicans kept pushing us to the wall. but i think by and large, it's the executive that's going to
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take the first shot. there's two things happening here. one is, let's be blunt, the democrats are trying to contain trump. they're trying to get a guarantee for subsidies under obamacare. they're trying to make sure the wall never gets built. but the onus is on the president that he insist on that symbolic wall, which has no practical use. he has not worked with democrats. his advisers have actually also alienated many republicans in congress. so yeah, they're the ones that carry most of the water if this government shuts down this weekend. >> all right. our president donald trump. but remember the other one who ran against him? after lying low for a while, hillary clinton is making more public appearances now. >> the last appearance was on saturday at the tribeca film festival in new york. her fans are wondering if this means she'll run again for the white house. >> we also have to win elections
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to make it clear where our country stands. >> reporter: clinton on elections and employment. >> i will never stop speaking out for common sense benefits that will allow moms and dads to stay on the job. >> reporter: clinton on immigration and education. >> we don't need to be building walls. we need to be building bridges. >> reporter: clinton on clinton. >> i have a hard time watching the news. what do we do? a walk in the woods. >> reporter: for a while after her stunning loss to donald trump, the democratic nominee disappeared so thoroughly, every sighting by a loyalist, walking in the woods, shopping for books, was celebrated on social media. but then she started tweeting, pumping up the women's march. i truly believe we're always stronger together.
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showing up at a broadway play to a standing ovation. and now in a flurry of appearances speaking up. >> i bet just about everyone in this room has had the experience of saying something in a meeting that gets ignored. 10, 20 minutes later a man says the same thing and everybody thinks it's genius. >> reporter: what's it all about? perhaps just pushback against critics and divisions in her party. >> donald trump did not win the election. the democrats lost the election. >> reporter: some of it may be an attempt to bolster her approval rating, which dropped to 35% last month. but just maybe her fans wonder, could it be something else? >> i think we have to face the fact that we may not ever be able to count on this administration to lead on lgbt issues. >> reporter: 2020? another run would be politically extraordinary. clinton would be 73 on election
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day, three years older than ronald reagan when he took office as the oldest president. and she'd have to rally a party which has twice seen her campaign fail. >> tom foreman reporting for us. the march for science goes global this earth day. >> and we will take you to some of the major demonstrations and hear what donald trump had to say about the fight to protect the environment. then we wad it up to make it nice and soft. but grandma, we use charmin ultra soft so we don't have to wad to get clean. mmm, cushiony...and we can use less. charmin ultra soft gets you clean without the wasteful wadding. it has comfort cushions you can see that are softer... ...and more absorbent, and you can use up to 4 times less. remember, that's charmin in there... no wasteful wadding! we all go. why not enjoy the go with charmin. [heroine] happy to be here. [ceo] so when you take the job, all these benefits are yours.
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the taliban raid on an army base during friday prayers. the death toll could reach 140. the afghan military says taliban firers disguised themselves wearing soldiers' uniforms and caught the base off guard. a taliban spokesman tells cnn it was revenge for the deaths of two of its officials. american warships began joint drills with japan in the western pacific ocean near the philippines. the u.s. first said that the strike group was headed to the korean peninsula in response to north korea's nuclear provocations but later it became known the ships were first going to the opposite direction for scheduled military exercises with australia. the opposition in venezuela marched to honor at least 22 people killed in anti-government protests this month. the government says nine of them were electrocuted when they tried to loot a bakery. the country is facing a brutal economic crisis, and the opposition says the president is
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blocking efforts to hold regional elections. the killing of a police officer in paris on thursday gave an extra sense of urgency to a march in city streets on saturday. female officers and spouses of officers were protesting violence against police. the killing of the 37-year-old officer has cast a cloud over sunday's presidential election in france. >> and that election is under way now. >> that's right. voting has been under way for more than three hours. let's take a look here. polling places have shown steady lines of people casting their ballots. voters voters have 11 candidates to choose from, each of them offering significantly different visions for the future of france. >> national front leader marine le pen says she feels emboldened by donald trump's election victory. she voted just about 30 minutes ago. she's campaigning on an anti-immigrant platform. former economy minister emmanuel
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macron founded a political movement called en marche last year. he has a strong pro-european union message. >> let's take a look. live pictures of francois fillon, the republican candidate, you see him here. he served as prime minister under nicol under nicolas sarkozy. we're taking a look at these images in paris that are taking place right now. we have reporters throughout, looking at the people as they go to the polls. >> that was benoit hamon earlier, the socialist party candidate earlier. he's campaigning to provide universal health care for all. >> jean-luc melenchon running under unsubmissive france. >> earlier, we spoke to our
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regarder about how le pen has shaken up the race. >> i think her major problem is that it's not necessarily what she doesn't like about the european union but the fact she really, really likes france. she thinks that the european union is an occupation power of france. she has said she's going to give freedom, independence back to france. she thinks the european parliament and brussels and the other institutions are meddling in politics. because of all these rules, she says, these european rules, france is unable to have a good economy, unable to guard its borders, and unable to guard its immigration. so she's basically against all the european rules, and she sees the european union as the devil basically, which is quite ironic because she's also a member of the european parliament. so she earns her money thanks to european union institutions, and she uses this money basically to
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fight the same european institutions. >> of course, we'll be continuing to watch the french vote as it takes place. we have correspondents throughout the streets of paris, around france, to cover this very important vote. people on all seven continents marched in the defense of science this earth day. >> the protests were sparked by opposition to u.s. president donald trump's environmental policies he. andrew spencer has more. >> reporter: from new york to los angeles, crowds gathered and marched all over the united states, pressing back against legislators and policymakers that they say are ignoring facts and research. organizers billed the marches as political but nonpartisan, an effort to support science and evidence-based research. but for many demonstrators, it's also a protest against the policies of president donald trump. >> we have an american president
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disparaging the facts, denigrating see denigrating science, and we're here to tell him science matters. >> reporter: speaking to a crowd in washington, science advocate bill nye said science must shape policy, not just in the united states, but arnoound the world. >> our lawmakers must know and accept science serves every one of us. every citizen of every nation in society. >> reporter: the marches have been worldwide with demonstrators taking to the streets from sydney, australia, to geneva, switzerland, and from the arctic to the antarctic, researchers and scientists added their support to the cause. at new myers station in antarctica, they summed up the movement with a quote. nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. now is the time to understand more so that we may fear less. i'm andrew spencer reporting. >> andrew spencer, thank you. president trump didn't respond to the protests, but he did release an earth day statement
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saying the tofollowing. quote, rigorous science critical to my administration's efforts to achieve the twin goals of economic growth and environmental protection. my administration is committed to advancing scientific research that leads to a better understanding of our environment and our environmental risks. as we do so, we should remember that rigorous science depends not on ideology but on a spirit of honest inquiry and robust debate." >> he once called climate change, of course, a hoax, cooked up by the chinese. >> indeed. >> president trump may have stated his support for the environment, but critics say there's much more that needs to be done. >> and it won't help if the u.s. pulls back on its funding. jennifer gray has this report. >> it's time to put america first. we're going to put america first. that includes a promise to cancel billions in climate change spending for the united nations. >> reporter: that campaign pledge is sending shock waves across the globe, where millions of people are spending the money
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on, well, survival. the u.s. contributes significantly to international pools of money that the u.n. and its partners use to help vulnerable regions adapt to climate change. for example, 32,000 bolivian potato farmers use international funds for their crops. in vietnam, funds help crops against rising sea levels. but the trump administration says -- >> we're not spending money on that anymore. >> reporter: scientists say that ignores overwhelming evidence and important diplomatic relations. >> it sends a signal to other countries that one of the biggest emitters on the planet is really not going to help the rest of the world. and that's the kind of thing that will dull cooperation overall. >> reporter: andrew light was a key member of the obama administration's climb change team, working around the globe and seeing the benefits of international funding first
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hand. >> the u.s. pulling back is going to be very difficult in terms of the stability of these systems. >> reporter: if trump sticks to his plans, it would be an about face from the previous administration's aggressive climate change agenda. >> we're going to contribute $3 billion to the green climate fund so we can help developing nations deal with climate change. >> reporter: president trump's proposed budget eliminates contributions to the green climate fund. it would also cut more than $10 billion from u.s. aid and the state department, two of the world's leaders in climate work. >> we're going to cancel the paris climate agreement. >> reporter: many trump supporters, including those in his cabinet, applaud these proposal proposals as a way to prioritize america's interests. but money isn't the only concern. >> as water gets more scarce, it threatens to become a catalyst for conflict. >> reporter: a 2016 study found
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that climate change was linked to 23% of armed conflicts in ethnically divided areas. >> chiemt chanlimate change is o livelihoods, property, and businesses. >> reporter: in recent months, president trump has drastically changed his rhetoric on health care, chinese trade, and even invited discussion on the paris climate agreement before postponing it. still, experts fear he won't change on climate change. >> it's not the big picture. it's that one particular program that i knew was helping that one particular community that i don't know if that's going to last, and i don't know if i can rally enough people to save that. and that hurts. a lot. >> well, a lot of people spoke out this weekend for sure. we're going to talk next about our addiction to these. george and i always have ours right here. who is really in control, you or your smartphone? we'll hear from an engineer who
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you fly on an airplane lately, and don't be surprised if something debgets caught on camera. american airlines under scrutiny for what happened on a flight from san francisco to dallas. much of it was caught on camera. >> witnesses say while passengers were boarding a flight attendant had violently taken a stroller from a mother, narrowly missing the baby she was holding. >> another passenger got involved and then things got heated. take a look.
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>> you do that to me, and i'll knock you flat. >> you stay out of this. >> american airlines says the flight attendant has been removed from duty while they investigate what happened. the woman received first class seating for the rest of her trip all the way to argentina. >> the airline issued a statement saying this. we are deeply sorry for the pain that we've caused this passenger and her family and to any other customers affected by this incident. in short, we are disappointed by these actions. okay. now we're going to turn to smartphones, and again smartphones are what keeps everyone seeing what goes on, on the airplanes. there's video everywhere. it's no accident you can't get away from it. the technology was designed to be addictive and get us all hooked. >> but now some in the tech world are questioning whether that's ethical. for more on, this let's get cnn money's laurie seagal.
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>> what i find fascinating is there's actually a movement for people to take a step away from their phone and build tech products that have ethics baked in. i went to an underground meet-up happening in silicon valley. i spoke to entrepreneurs and engineers beginning to have these conversation about have we gone too far with our technology and what's the ethical thing to do. i had one conversation with an engineer whose job was to addict us to our smartphones. take a listen. >> what we were in was the science of understanding what makes a product addictive, why do people keep coming back, what are the hooks. it became a really interesting game for us because i would actually look at it right next to nicotine and cigarette use. any time you're looking at your phone, it's actually controlling you as much as you're controlling it. >> you made us all addicts. >> well, and that was part of the game. we would all sit around the game and figure out, did that work? and see if we could get them to come back one more time per day
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or week. >> can you give me any specific examples? >> the notifications you get, there's a reason you get them when you do, the words that are chosing. everything has been tested. >> is there a reason you're here tonight? are you repenting for your sins? >> i see a lot of familiar faces. we were all the 29-year-olds that were gung-ho. now that we've connected the world, we could probably do better. we realized that apps were more addictive than chemically addictive substances. i got them reaching for their phones 120 times a day just with my app. we'd all high five each other and go, wait a minute, are we doing the right thing? >> reporter: so how far have we gone, and is it even possible to pull back? the question that took me to an m.i.t. professor that has been studying our complicated relationship with technology for decades. >> this is like a moment of reckoning. maybe i'm just being dramatic
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about it. >> no, no, you're right. i'll give you an example. you have your phone face down on the table. i can tell it's turned off. a phone turned upside down and turned off on a table during lunch, which most people think of as polite. does two things to the conversation. now, look at me. you need to look. it's hard. it makes the conversation turn to more trivial matters and makes the two people in the conversation feel less of an impactful connection to each other. you have to take the phone and put it out of both of our vision. the phone is a reminder, a kind of subliminal reminder to both of us. these phones take us elsewhere. >> okay. so first of all -- >> yeah, it's good. it's going. >> as you can see, a little uncomfortable. i will say, we did have a very good conversation when i put my phone away. and it definitely got you thinking.
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i think this whole kind of journey and learning about how much technology is impacting us, even for me, was very personal and makes you kind of want to take a step back and kind of invest in the real world a little bit more. >> laurie segall, thanks. you can catch more of her special report online. go to cnn.com/mostlyhuman. >> mine's gone. >> i'll put my phone away too. back after the break. you're going to be hanging out in here. so if you need anything, text me. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before. you got next? chase. helping you master what's now and what's next.
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welcome back. we want to tell you about these wildfires that continue to burn across central and southern florida. they're forcing thousands of people to leave their homes. >> hundreds of firefighters are battling the fires. there's one near naples in southwestern florida where an estimated 6500 hectares, or 21,000 acres, have already burned. our meteorologist derek van dam is going to tell us what's behind this. >> some of these fires are sending flames 150 feet in the air, engulfing homes in its path, charring people's backyards and their livelihoods as well. let's check out some of the footage coming from this area. you can see the vicious, vicious flames, extremely dry, brittle conditions taking place. thank goodness for the personnel and the volunteers battling these blazes because they're
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doing a very, very good job. unfortunately, we don't have 100% containment on some of the larg larger fires. natalie asked what makes up these wildfires. we have three major ingredients that make a wildfire spread. may sound obvious, but you have to think about it. the fuel for the fire is needed, the dry grasslands. some of the marshy areas maybe not getting enough rainfall. they can dry out easily. you need the heat for an ignition source. we've had temperatures soaring in the 80s lately. then oxygen. the air that we breathe is about 21% oxygen. and fire only needs about 16%. so we have plenty of that certainly. here's the latest on the collier county area, where naples is located. 268 personnel actually fighting this fire. 21,000 acres burned, 60% containment. you see that white line right there? that's actually interstate 75. if you've driven through this area, you know that's a major
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artery. unfortunately, this fire is actually encroaching across the highway and could potentially lower the visibility and be a major concern across that area. central and southern florida, 35 active wildfires that are over 100 acres. it's all thanks to this severe drought conditions that are ongoing across central and southern florida. national drought observation network says about 34% of the state has severe drought conditions. but there is some light at the end of the tunnel. good news is there's rain in this forecast today and into the day on monday as a cold front sweeps through the area. but unfortunately, cold fronts can also cause some tricky situations. they actually drop the relative humidity, which can bring back the fire threat into the middle of next week as temperatures warm. >> 90 degrees. all right, derek. we'll be thinking about florida. >> absolutely. and thank you for being with us. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. for viewers here in the u.s. "new day" starts next. for everyone else, erin burnett "out front." we'll see you next time.
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