presidency. good morning, joe. >> reporter: the administration taking the position that at least for now it won't insist on funding for the president's border wall. could clear the way to avoid an embarrassing government shut down for republicans. however, the fact of the matter is there may have been no other option. >> president trump signaling a willingness to drop his demand for congress to include a down payment for his border wall in this week's must-pass spending bill. the president now telling conservative journalists he is open to delaying wall funding until september's negotiations after touting the portion of a wall on tweeter. chuck schumer calling the decision good for the country as skeptical republicans also welcome to the shift. >> i'm for a wall where it makes sense. but a 220-mile wall doesn't make

sense. >> the administration continuing to insist that ultimately mexico will fit the bill for the wall. >> isn't mexico supposed to pay for the wall? >> i think, jim, the president has made clear that initially we need to get the funding going and there will be several mechanisms to make sure that happens. >> but the president is trying to deliver on one of his key campaign promises, proposing to slash the corporate tax rate from 45% to 15%. he will unveil details tomorrow. setting up a potential clash with republicans concerned about the impact these cut will have on the deficit. >> the tax plan will pay for itself with economic growth. >> arguing the cuts will pay thr themselves, a theory economics don't buy. meanwhile, the trump administration hitting five

canadian companies on stiff tariffs. congress secretary saying it has been a bad week for u.s./canada trade relations, stoking fears about a future trade war with america's second largest trading partner. >> the administration continues to keep its eye on north korea. there was a big artillery drill there overnight. the entire united states senate expected here at the white house tomorrow for an unprecedented briefing on north kor yeah. >> thank you very much. let's bring in chris, reporter and editor at large for cnn politics and david druker and april ryan. so what are we seeing with this border wall? we had marsha blackburn on the

show. she got all twisted up trying to keep it alive saying reasons why you need the wall and that congress will find a way to deal with it fiscally. nobody saying they want the wall and nobody saying they are going to find a way for mexico to pay for it. >> donald trump on the campaign trail was and who's going to pay for the wall and the audience would say mexico. but anyone familiar with the way in which the federal government works knew, number one, we can't make mexico pay for the wall, breaking news, and number two, the congress as constituted, particularly with republicans in control, isn't going to say, you need $1.4 billion? no problem. the republican party, at least in theory built its case on fiscal responsibility on the need to drive down the debt, on the need to slash government spending. i just don't know that there is

$1.4 billion for a wall. i certainly am suspect there is 13 or $20 billion, which is the estimated cost, all based on a just trust me promise from donald trump that will get mexico to pay once we pay for it first. i think it was always going to be a hard sell. the idea you could push it out on a thursday and get it the following thursday is ridiculous and i think it is always going to be tough to sell it. >> april, we just sat down with die-hard trump supporters. they didn't think the wall was a metaphor. they didn't think it meant a virtual wall. they didn't think it was just a pink floyd album. they thought it was a real promise. and, so, what does it mean if it never happens? >> well, it was a real promise, and if it never happens, it depends upon what side of the spectrum you are on. for those that really want to deal with the immigration issue, when you talk about the wall,

that's one piece. yes, the 2,000 mile stretch of the southern border is porous, but what do you do with it? the cost of this wall explodes the budget. fiscal conservatives are very upset. but when you deal with the issue of immigration, that's just one portion of the immigration issue, the southern border. immigration is a problem in this nation, and the fix is not just this wall. it is about people who are overstaying their visas as well and other issues. so this is just one piece of the puzzle and it is a very, very expensive piece. so i can understand why the president wants to back away because if you drill down in it, the devil is in the weeds. >> we see the next major effort is on us and it came out in a surprising fashion with tax reform. not what we were hearing about, it is not re-doing everything. they seem to be trying to get around not having the cost savings from health care and

coming up with something that would pay for itself. corporate tax rate being brought down. it will increase economic growth and therefore pay for itself. is it an easy sell? >> what we learned from the health care debate is that republicans aren't going to march in lock step to where the president wants them to go. what republicans were looking ahead to was a fight over tax reform that is just as difficult and politically complicated as health care reform. so how do you solve that problem so you end up doing nothing and end up having a second, major, major campaign promise go down the tubes? you settle on tax cuts. you can get behind the idea that will score it dynamically. in other words, we project what the economic growth is going to be. all that revenue comes in. that pays for the tax cute. it only lasts ten years, but it is a mechanism.

if you are not going to do reform, you need something dramatic enough that you can score as having economic growth into the 3% and 4% range. >> why not include small businesses and you'd show you are for the small guy? >> he is going to do that. what we don't know yet -- look, i was talking to republicans yesterday. they don't know what to expect from president trump tomorrow. they think it will be light on details and more of the same bullet points. you will see republicans advance beyond a tax cut is a tax cut on individuals. so many millions of business owners file as individuals. years ago i was one. it is a really big deal. so they are going to cover both. but i think the news here, and it's not new news anymore really. is you are not going to see major tax reform. you are going to see big tax cuts because i think that's the only way republicans can get n census.

>> if you look at the crunching of the numbers we just put up, chris, they say if you lower from 35% to 15%, you lose revenue in just the first decade. so the deficit goes up. >> you heard the treasury secretary yesterday essentially say it is going to pay for itself because the economy is going to do better, economic growth. that's going to be the argument because, to david's point, that's the only argument they could make at this point. money has to go from somewhere or come from somewhere. how does it go over? golly. it's a real battle because it is between tax cuts which is something dave notes republicans are in favor of, but also this promise of economic growth but not a certainty, which means they could be adding to the deficit, which again, like is like the border wall, this is a

party that has theoretically built its spine on fiscal responsibility, fiscal conservatism. we can't keep having the government spend more and more and more money. my guess is a tax cut does probably go through because they think it's good politics and because they think it's something they could get away with saying we've established this. we've given you more money in your pocket and a republican congress to date hasn't done all that much legislatively. >> april ryan, metrics for the first 100 days -- go ahead. make your point. what do you have, april? >> yeah. basically, i hear what was just said about taxes, but when you deal with the economy and base everything on the economy, the economy fluk cctuates and this not solid and sound. and you have fiscal conservatives very upset. and the president will be meeting with mitch mcconnell to

give a broad overview of what he's going to announce tomorrow and still there is a big difference between what congress wants and what the president wants and it's all about the money, the dollars and fiscal conservatives are not happy about this one, too. >> you will see when companies get a tax cut and they have more money, they pass it on to shareholders. they don't hire. let me ask you this, though. metrics for the first 100 days, is it fair to look at the staffing issues that still exist, doing the work of government, working as liaisons with the legislators. 470 of 576 key positions not filled. how does that reckon with past administrations in your estimation? >> well, there is still a lag in those first few days, those first few weeks, those first few months. this is still a new administration. although it feels like he's been here for a couple of years, he's still very new. and with that there is a

learning curve there. they are still working diligently. i have heard about a lot of leaders who are handing papers in to this administration with lists of names. so they will listening to people trying to fill these positions. they are working diligently. but some people really don't want to come into this administration because of the controversies about this administration. >> okay. panel, thank you for tackling all of today's issues with us. here is another story for you. ivanka trump in germany in morning. the first daughter was invited by angela merkel to speak at a women's empowerment summit. live from berlin. how is it going over there, kate? >> reporter: hi, alison. well ivanka trump is still speaking on this panel inside and she's talking about women's empowerment, issues like that that angela merkel specifically wanted her to discuss on this

panel. however, it is also a bit of a fiery start. right away, the moderator asked her what her role specifically entailed in the white house. and ivanka trump said this role is unfamiliar to me, too. it is very new to me. and then later on she spoke a bit about her father's role with women and how he's a champion of families and working with him and the audience got a bit noisy at that. there was hissing and some polite i guess booing. then at that point ivanka decided to respond to those critics. >> he's been a tremendous champion of supporting families and enabling them to thrive in a new reality of -- i certainly hear the criticism from the media. but i know from personal experience and i think the thousands of women who have worked with and for my father

were decades when he was in the private sector are a testament to his belief and solid conviction in the potential of women and their ability to do the job as well as any man. >> so that was ivanka trump speaking just minutes ago here in berlin on this panel. a question about her father's role and his path with him and how he empowers him and some of his employees. the president tweeted to his daughter this morning saying how proud he is of the work she's been doing, in response specifically to an op he wrote yesterday about these women issues and how important women are to a global economy. these are ivanka trump's main issues as she steps her toe into the global stage as part of an official ambassador for her father. later she will talk about stem

research and later this afternoon she visits the holocaust memorial here in berlin to pay respects. this panel off to a rocky start for ivanka. >> that was interesting. when you heard the grumbling there in the room and she said, well, i've heard the criticism, certainly from the media, that was from the room from participants. that wasn't the media. you can't pivot away to only the media being critical. >> you can try. you've got to remember, it depend on what you audience is. you know with that group, they can say whatever they want. they can blame it on whatever they want. not to be underestimated, this is a tough spot for this person to be in. >> my, god. >> she eets with the head of the imf, chief financial officer for canada. >> angela amerimerkel. >> and it raises the question are these the types of positions trump's kids should be in?

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house. this post was removed last night, but the ethical concerns remain. good morning, gentlemen. >> congressman, how is that not just a commercial for mar-a-lago. it talked about how great it is, all of its golfing facilities, it is the winter house. >> i am in agreement with you. it was flowery, fluffy, it did not talk about what i would be looking for. i would want to know proximity to airport, wifi. but the white house took it down and i recommend that the white house investigate it. as i understand it, it is part of a $72 million basically a bait click promotion that the state department was using to try to drive people to their web page. why that would be necessary is far beyond me. i know it was not directed from the white house.

this was a carry over, and i would not say this was all the obama administration. other administrations do this sort of thing. when i was set on the appropriations committee, the department of agriculture did this. >> wait a minute. what do you mean they could have done this during the obama presidency? he wasn't driving people to pay at his childhood home in hawaii to see it and making money off of it? >> no, this -- i really think this was a lower level -- keep in mind the state department did not have a spokesman. i think a spokesman did not come on board. but there was no spokesman. these were interim staffers. but i think they felt like this is a way to get people around the world to look at what the state department does in america and i don't think it was appropriate. let me underscore that. it is part of a $72 million promotion program that was in place that president trump

inherited. he's going to do away with this program. >> there you go. he's going to do away with the program. he took down the blog post. white house didn't know about it. are you satisfied? >> well, unfortunately, president trump feels as if he's inherited a multitrillion dollar promotion program called the united states government. and if this were an isolated incident it still would need to be investigated. i have to disagree with the congressman. we don't know who ordered it or why it was ordered and the inspector general should and i'm confidence will take a look at it. but it is part of a much larger problem. it starts with the president m himself violating the constitution by accepting foreign government and federal and state cash benefits. that is not allowed. then you have the president's daughter and son-in-law. it goes on -- it is illegal.

>> he's not accepting cash from foreign governments. >> congressman, he is. >> specifically what do you mean? >> he's accepting cash at his hotel at the old post office hotel and his other properties around the world. >> okay, okay. hold on. >> let me speak, please. >> you made your point. hold on. so, jack, what about that? that's a business transaction right there. >> let me say, there are legitimate questions with anybody in elected office in terms of their assets and their government guidelines to this and this administration is going to do everything it can to comply and they will. >> what about the hotels? he's taking money from foreign governments staying there. what about that? >> that's not illegal. this is a business asset and people come and pay the normal price. they're not getting some cut, right? and the president doesn't pocket

money. >> congressman, what about the trademarks? what about the chinese trademarks? while he said -- president trump -- president trump said he was going to challenge the one china policy. china turned around and gave him a trademark that he had been denied for years. oh, low and behold, he changes. he's back to one china. his daughter -- congressman, his daughter -- congressman, please. congressman, let me finish. his daughter is sitting at dinner with mr. trump and the chinese president. she receives three chinese trademarks. >> go ahead, jack. >> it could possibly be that china, one of our largest trading partners and one of the largest economies in the world, is working on us on the thug government of north korea and pulling in the reins of kim

jong-un. i think it has to do with world security and i'm very proud of the relationship he's building with china. it is extremely important. >> congressman back here at home, let's do something we could all get our minds around. this is simple math. president trump raised the initiation fee on mar-a-lago after he became president from $100,000 to double that, to 200,0 $200,000. how is that not just cashing in? >> i don't know anything about how mar-a-lago sets its membership fees. i can tell you this, a $200,00 membership fee is not unusual. he's a billionaire. he's not trying to make money off of mar-a-lago. that's why a lot of people voted for him because they know he can't be bought you have. as was suggested, he doesn't feel like he's in charge of some

enterprise. he's already made his money and not trying to sell mar-a-lago. >> of course he is. jack, of course he is. he spent a third of his presidency at mar-a-lago. >> let's put it up for everybody so they could see it. this is where mr. trump has spent his days at a trump property. so mar-a-lago as well as other trump hotels. go ahead. >> he and his family have broken a 40-year bipartisan practice of cutting off all financial ties. of course they are trying to nakedly exploit the presidency for their gain and it's spread throughout a cancer throughout the administration. this mar-a-lago ad the state department put up knew was wrong, they took it down when i and others complained. it wouldn't be so bad if it were over 100 ethics violations.

it is not just trump and ivanka and jarred we have questions about. it's spread throughout the white house. bannon, kellyanne conway and the cabinet. >> they're not using the white house for personal gain. i'm sorry the left wants that issue and they feel it is very important. >> wait a minute. it's not a left issue. the bush administration has criticized it, too. it has been equally criticized by trump. >> if ivanka was a liberal women, they would be huddling around her, but because she's a republican -- >> what does that have to do with it, congressman? what does have to do with whether or not he's trying to make money on mar-a-lago. >> i don't see him trying to make money off of mar-a-lago. if he says why does the president or why did president obama need to go to hawaii so

much, i think that's a legitimate question. that's what camp david is for. but the trump family are billionaires. they do not need to make money off of ma ra la go. that's where he prefers to do business. >> fine. we'll see if the initiation fee goes to charity. >> i have a point about it. >> we have to go. >> thank you. >> love you, brother. good to see you. >> right back at you. >> so the president plans to reveal his tax plan, at least in the broad strokes tomorrow. one headline we get is corporate tax is going to be cut in a big way. is that good for you? we'll debate the numbers next. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $509

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all right. so president trump plans to unveil his new tax plan tomorrow. sources tell cnn the president wants to cut the corporate tax rate drastically. 35% to 15%. treasure secretary says the tax plan will pay for itself. let's discuss. let's debate with anthony chan

and steven moore. now, steven, let's lay the politics out there. they got problems with the health care bill. they are not going to be able to account the savings they got there to pay for the tax cut. now we get this idea. make the case for how a tax cut for big business means growth. >> well, i'm smiling because i waited a long time for this day. fiejly we are going to get the official announcements of the tax plan. i worked with donald trump on fashioning the plan back during the campaign. it looks right now what trump is going to unveil tomorrow is going to be very similar to what we talked about in the campaign, which is a business tax rate of 15%. so your viewers know, it is not just for the big businesses, not just for corporations. donald trump said he wanted to

make this available to the 26.5 million small businesses. you asked me how it is going to be paid for. i wouldn't say this is going to entirely pay for itself, but i think almost all economists agree we are very severely hampering our economy with the highest corporate and business tax rate and that reduces jobs and wages in this country. so you are going to get some feedback. you will see a lot of these businesses that have been leaving the country coming back here. >> all right. anthony, what is the other side of this? >> the other side is that the labor market is very strong. we have a tight labor market, one of the highest quit rates we've had during the economic expansion. so i'm not sure why steven believes this labor market is weak. but i believe we are going to get the economic grows faster with this tax cut. i was happy that steven was candid and mentioned that because every 1% that you cut of

the corporate tax rate, that's $100 billion you lose. you go to 15%, we're talking about 2 trillion dlfr over the next ten years. how are you going to pay for that? a lot of the components like the border adjustment take at this point it is not clear that the president is fully supportive of that. by the way, even before you finish this story, you have to also talk about other things, such as cutting the personal tax cuts, which the president also talked about. that is another $1.2 to $1.3 trillion. now i know some people will say oh the economy will grow faster. dynamic scoring will be the magic. but that is not the end all solution because if you project dynamic scoring will do it and the economy will grow, guess what, this is the third longers economic expansion. this expansion will be eight years in june. the average age is 4.9 years.

so we are not going to see this expansion continue for another ten years. even though i hope we will. >> a lot of question marks, steven. there is also something else. while the nominal rate for c corporations, 35% tharks the practical rate is down around 20%? so hasn't this been baked in a little bit already forbi bid businesses? >> that's why we have the dumbest corporate tax in the world. you can't sit down and come up with something dumber than what we have now. we have the congressional office just validated that and found, by the way, we also have the highest effective rate. so even when you take into account the loopholes, we still have the highest rates in the world. there is no doubt about that. my goodness, france is going to reduce their corporate tax rate to lower than the united states rate. what is wrong with this picture

when france has lower rates than the united states of america? >> now, on this issue of what makes it so stupid is you're right, you do have some corporations paying effective tax rates of 5% or 10% and others paying 35%. that's not fair. we only raised $300 billion a year from our corporate tax system. as you guys know, the compliance cost of the corporate tax are extremely high and necktive affects on workers. how can you say this is a good labor market? every poll taken by cnn and other major pollsters have found the major thing americans are concerned about are not just jobs. the job market is very good if you ant a job at walmart or burger king. the problem is we're not creating the high paying jobs. >> if you look at the gallup poll s today, they are saying this is the best time to find a

job. can it be better? absolutely. i agree with you. it could be improved. but that doesn't mean it is going to be paid for. we are going to have massive red ink. use the words of george h. bush that called dynamic scoring voodoo economics. i hope it works. but it didn't work in 1991 or 1989. >> gork h.w. bush admitted he was wrong. so george h.w. bush admitted it wasn't voodoo economics. it worked. we had the biggest boom in american history. >> thank you very much. appreciate your takes. helpful to the show and the audience. all right. so the president ran on the promise to be a jobs creator. that's what we're talking about what's going to be in this plan. how are we doing with jobs? you heard the two experts talking about it.

let's look at the numbers next.

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president trump promised he'd be the greatest job producer. chief business correspondent has the number. >> on the campaign trail he said this has been the worst economy since the great depression and he said the jobs scenario was terrible. now 100 days in, he's very confident. >> over 600,000 jobs already in a short period of time, and it's going to is that right catchsta >> short period of time a very different view from this president. let's take a look at that claim. he says almost 600,000 jobs. it's really 317,000 jobs. donald trump likes to exago rate a little bit. when he wasn't the president for the entire month, when you add those numbers in, you still get to 533, so we'll examine what it looks like compared to his

predecessors. this is what's interesting. president trump, much better than his predecessors. you can see what happened with barack obama. i think that needs no explanation. that was the end of the world almost for the economy there. so we were hemorrhaging jobs there. 2001 that was a slow recovery. and then bill clin son created 194,000 jobs. he went on to create more. donald trump has promised 25 million over a period of ten years. so he has work to do. he's got to have 208,000 jobs per month to be the best job creator god ever made. >> i know you will keep track of the numbers so we don't have to. >> all right. there is another big development for you this morning. we just learn who had the first witnesses to testify in the senate investigations into russia's meddling in the u.s. investigation will be. that's part of the bottom line next.

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the senate judiciary committee just announced that former director of national intelligence, james clapper and former acting attorney general salary yates will testify on may 8th. let's find out what this means. now we have a date certain. that's for the senate judiciary committee. the house also is going to be interviewing sally yates. >> this is the testimony that white house tried to block, which pretty much guaranteed that she was going to be testifying. you have to reason sallyuate's role in this drama. she was the one as acting attorney general that went running to the white house counsel to say, hey, michael flynn wasn't truthful. what mike pence said is not right. he was not truthful with you

guys. i know things that you should know because of the conversations he was having with the russians. so now she is going to detail sort of, i'm sure, in an hour by hour way of what she learned. and i don't think this administration on may 8th, just after they are trying to rack up these establishments are going to want to revisit michael flynn who they jet sonned. >> and it will be interesting to see how they throw him under the bus. so you're teeing it up as yates is the biggest get for them than clapper. >> i mean, no doubt. both have a story to tell here, remember. i mean, clapper was part of the definitive statement when those 17 agencies came together and said russia meddled. >> but his big political take away was at the time that you left did you ever see any proof of any collusion or any type of wrong communication between russia and trump's people. he said no. >> right. he has been offered a lot more

testimony on the side of the russian meddling in the election, not the trump collusion, the trump associate collusion side of it. >> we have been talking about the border wall with mexico this morning and whether or not president trump is backing off of that because that was going to be the sort of lynch pin of whether or not they were going to pass this spending bill and keep the government open and he was asking for $1.4 billion. but now people are saying it doesn't have to be a border wall. it could be border security. they are saying they are not going to hang the future of the government shut down on this. president trump said don't let the fake media tell you i changed my position on my wall. it will get built. homicide hae changed his position on the wall? >> what he did is punt for the funding of the wall to a different time. he clearly wants to build a wall. i don't think anybody is saying he changed a position on that. what is clear is he saw what was

coming down the pike. if they were going to have a hard time, that funding had to be in this bill, through the end of the september. the government was likely ghoing to shut down because not a single democrat was going to come on board. i think it was so important to the white house to avoid that cliff hanging drama at the end of his first 100 days that he said it does not need to be in this. >> i think you could argue a couple things. one, i think reince priebus did change on where they were. he started saying border security. but also do you like this if you are one of his guys, doubling down on this promise. you know you don't have a lot of gop support for it. you know you have no democrat support for it. is he still putting himself at risk for another big lose? did you listen to the voters that alisny was talking to? >> i'm saying in congress. >> this was the rallying cry. >> so was repeal and replace.

>> yeah. and they haven't given up on that either because they understand there is a political imperative to deliver on some of your biggest promises. and, yes, even if they are not politically popular with congress or at large or even with the majority of the american people, he has got to show that he is working on those promises because while the base is so clearly with him and willing to hang through thick and thin, if you start throwing away the core promises and say i have no interest in that anym e anymore, i don't know how much longer the base sticks with him. >> you're right. he hasn't changed his position. but if you never get funding, you don't have to change your position. >> that's the details have certainly changed. but as long as he never backs off his position, they can say, and you heard it here, it's congress is the impediment. >> which is why i think you heard all this talk from the white house, we've got to go for

health care again, even though health care was not going to get revisited this week in a serious week. they wanted to show the continued fight for it. >> who's think? somebody did the president is disservice telling him get out in front of that health care thing. i wonder who was putting that in his head because he set himself up for disappointment. >> there was a divide, chris. >> so do you think it is a fair metric in looking at these first 100 days to look at all the positions that have been filled around the president to help him do the job? 556 key positions. 470, not even a nominee. that is light to losing compared to previous administrations. what do you make of it? >> he's not serving himself. that's first of all because you don't have all these people in these slots to move your agenda forward. never mind it may look politically incompetent. it's not serving the functioning well of what he wants to do. i think that's a pretty decent

metric. i don't think you could take 100 days and sum it up in one metric. >> david, thanks so much for the bottom line. great to have you here. the good stuff is next. aleve with direct therapy

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all right. time for cnn news room with poppy harlow and john berman. good morning, you guys. >> good morning. we have a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> top of the hour, 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> we have breaking news this morning. a fiery reception for ivanka trump, the first daughter on her first official overseas trip, maybe her first foreign controver controversy. she is in germany on a packed schedule. >> of course she is not -- there not just as a blood relative as the president but an official advisor to him and the white house. moments ago she was greeted with tough questions about what does she actually do and who does she actually work for. listen. >> the german audience is not that familiar with the concept of a first daughter. i'd like t