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we're not talking about giving away, you know, the secret recipe for kentucky fried chicken. we are talking about national security. we are talking possibly about trees tresaon. it benefits the white house. they must be transparent. give it up. >> stand by for more. thank you for joining me. welcome to "inside politics" i'm john king. day 98 of the trump presidency and lots of moving parts. more trouble for the fosrmer security adviser. investigating whether michael flynn failed to disclose payments after being warned not to take money in the first
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place. despite that cloud, president trump gives himself an "a" at the 100 day mark and here's a shock. house democratic leader nancy pelosi disagrees. >> some people have asked me what grade would i give him. we could take it subject by subject. broken promises on jobs and infrastructure. "f." we haven't seen a jobs bill. we haven't seen an infrastructure bill for all the talk. "f." broken promises on america's health care. "f" minus. >> the president says "a," nans see pelosi says "f." 44% of meramericans approve of job. 54% disapprove. that's hardly an "a." it's not an "f." a lot of questions in our brand new cnn poll about the president's management abilities and his management style. 51% of americans say their new
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president is not working hard enough at the job. 56%, this is pretty damming, 56% say he's done a very poor job of assembling a white house team that can help him. and yes we saw this low number in the campaign. only 37% of americans think their new president is honest and trustworthy. as always with donald trump, you get a bit of a divide. republicans like what they see so far. 85% of republicans approve of the job he's doing as president. 91% of democrats say no thanks. they disapprove. independents, more split, but a majority of independents 53% disapprove of the job donald trump is doing as we approach the 100 day mark. still two days to get there. so more time for the president to make a mark. one drama very much worth watching, the house conservatives who derailed the last obamacare repeal effort say they're good with a new plan, but can it really pass or is it just an effort to blame moderates for what so far is a giant 100 day failure? >> we're not going to get the
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full repeal we told the voter, so we've got more work to do and we know that. we believe this is the best plan we can get out of the house. we'll send it to the senate and some of our colleagues over there will have work to do to accomplish what the voters sent us here to do. >> abbey, barbara, phil mattingly and sarah westwood. the president of argentina is at the white house. we expect some glimpses with the meeting of the president of the united states. other big news today, an abrupt white house messaging about face on nafta. to keep the government open past friday's funding deadline and yes those on again off again efforts in the house to try again on obamacare repeal. did you follow that? let's set the table. the president's own assessment of how he's doing. >> i give us an "a." i would say communication would be a little bit less than an "a" because i don't think we've
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gotten the word out what we've done because i think we're so busy getting it done that we're not talking about it. >> well, they've been talking about it quite a bit. sarah, that is your interview from yesterday with the president of the united states. i'm always interested in the conversation with donald trump the businessman, now president donald trump. he's a very good salesman. what was his mood and spirit when he was giving himself an "a"? did you get the sense that's what he thinks? >> he was excited about his first 100 days. he was excited about the number of bills he signed. he noted by saturday he expects to have signed 32 pieces of legislation and he felt that wasn't getting enough attention. it's interesting for someone who's so fixated on how his policies play in the media that he rated his white house's messaging as maybe it's weakest point in its first 100 days. >> but he's clearly seeing all these polls. he sees the polls that say the american people are split. 44% approval rating is not
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stunning. it is proof -- we've had three polls since donald trump was inaugurate rated. he's been a flat rien line. he's not growing. he is holding static which has been his primary focus, but an "a"? >> i think the president is always going to give himself a better grade than he gives even his staff and the sort of organization around him. the problem is that as the president, he's responsible for that as well. we're seeing that week trump actually trying to take the reins of the messaging a little bit more. there was an interesting police today where the president had brought reporters into the oval office where staff said oh it's off the record, the president said no, actually, i want to talk about all of this stuff. that's the kind of stuff that he does when he feels like staff isn't really doing a good job explaining what i'm doing here, i'm going to do it myself. we're seeing him do that all of this week. >> there's a couple of measures by which to judge him by any
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sort of the traditional measures, like some of the early campaign promises. he hasn't got anything done on health care, any bipartisan comp pro -- com pro -- >> i also appreciate him becoming the 45th consecutive president who believes messaging is the problem and the staff is the problem, not him or the policies or any of the proposals. it's good to see things are staying consistent on that level. look, i think i'm on the hill every sipg ngle day. it hasn't been a great 100 days. despite the number of laws, these aren't major pieces of legislation, the type of things he promised. d i do feel like health care might have an opening. they feel like they're kind of starting to get into a better place. the question is what does that turn into? are there results that come out of that.
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>> one of the questions on the 25ib table, it looks like they have a deal to keep it open. they're going to pass a continuing r continui continuing resolution that will keep the government open for another week while they workout the details to get to october. one of the questions though is to get the democrats on board, mulvaney, the president's budget director said yesterday the trump administration will continue to make pages to insurers under obamacare. republicans have complained that's illegal, congress never authorized such spending. democrats were holding up a deal. mulvaney the budget director says yes. in your interview he seems to be saying maybe. >> i want to see what happens with our bill. i really have to see what happens over the next couple of days or maybe weeks with respect our plan before i make that decision. >> with respect to our plan and we're going to get to the details, he's stilling hoping
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there's another health care vote. but if his budget director goes up to capitol hill and tells the democrats, don't worry, support the extension, we're going to give them that money and then the president on the very same day says i don't know, what's the impact. >> i would actually go with mick mull vein y mulvaney on this one. on the nafta issue is a whole other conversation. we might rescind the whole thing. never mine, that's not going to happen. then you see trump tweeting yeah, but the whole thing could blowup if they don't cooperate. that's kind of standard messaging for president trump. let the other guys be the voice of compromise and you keep the hammer out there just to remind people you're unreaddictable. >> and the democrats are saying today, the number two democrat is saying if you try to force a health care vote before the weekend, before 100 days on obamacare repeal vote, we won't support the legislation that
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keeps the government own. little bit of chicken, whatever you want to call it. phil doesn't get gray hairs, but if he did, he would have gray hair tracking this repeal and replace over the last month or so. the latest incarnation who has come forward with an amendment designed to appease everybody. freedom caucus members, they're the conservatives. they said no last time. president made a bunch of concessions. some of them said yes, but the mor moderate said no, they don't have a deal. he says he's trying to get to the finish line. >> my goal has been to try to get everyone who was struggling with this bill to get to yes. the only way to do that is to balance these two things. bring costs down for people and make sure we protect the vulnerable people. and no bill is going to satisfy everyone. this is certainly not a perfect bill and for some people there are elements of it that they struggle with. >> the question is can they get more votes? it's been interesting watching
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just our air. he's a member of the so called tuesday group. i've seen a number saying nope, nope, nope, not my deal. the amendment would give waivers, states could seek waives for the national pre-existing. obamacare requires our insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions. under this amendment some states could opt out of that. states can seek waivers for the essential health care benefit rules. if a waiver is sought, states can enact a high risk pool but it could risk to higher premiums for sicker and older people. is this a solution or is this something the conservatives are wrapping their arms around so we can say if we didn't pass it in the first 100 days it's the moderate fault. >> i can say talking to a member of tuesday group, tom was out on an island. he did these negotiations against the will of his group.
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they don't want to negotiate with the freedom caucus. they're short. they don't have the votes yet. if they had the votes they would schedule a floor vote and they would get it on the floor. but this is as close as they've ever been. i'm told between 29 and 30, maybe even 31 freedom caucus members are on board with this. that's from zero before in the initial. but moderates are having a real problem with it. it was that latter point. the idea that this could drive up costs for individuals with pre-existing conditions. the waivers, the language in the bill, they're trying to thread a very small needle with a very small thing of thread if they can. that's what congressman mcarthur is trying to say. as they get close, they're going to have to twist some arms. they'll have to get people who will be willing to say i'm going to risk my swing district to vote yes on soming thething tha go to the senate and i'm willing to do that because i need to get
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this off the plates. leadership says they think they can get those members but they're not there yet. >> and the reason donald trump is the president of the united states is because people are dis dusted. this says i went from hel no to no. that's progress i guess. the new trump tax plan and what it might mean you to. but next more trouble for former national security adviser michael flynn and more proof the russia cloud over the white house will remain for the second 100 days and probably well beyond. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time... stay with me, mr. parker. ...saving time when it matters most. stay with me, mrs. parker. that's the power of and.
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michael flynn. we learned today the pentagon opened an investigation earlier this month to look into payments flynn accepted after retiring from military services. new doucuments provided three years ago they warned general flynn not to take foreign payments when he was in retirement. this new twist just days after house investigator said there was no evidence flynn disclosed those payments from a russian tv network when he filed to receive his security clearance. flynn's lawyer says he told the dia about his russia trip and the payments. but in a letter to the house government reform fought the dia says, quote, it did not locate any records of general flynn seeking permission or approval for the receipt of money from a foreign source. >> actually, we're seeing what's happening in this house oversight committee is a breakdown along party lines.
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the release of these doucumente today were by the democrats who raised serious concerns about these warnings that the pentagon issued saying that mr. flynn had to get permission as a former military officer to get these foreign payments and document -- no documents -- the documents that they received show that he did not get permission because there are no records showing that they got these payments. now, just moments ago the top republican on the committee, the chairman, jason chaffetz, his spokes person issued a statement saying the democrats did not consult with them in releasing these documents, but the democrats are pushing back saying they did consult with them. their protocol on to not necessarily get permission but to at least consult with them. also in disagreement about whether or not the house has been responsive to the request from congress. congressman cummings very critical of the white house for saying they do not have those documents in their possession before january 20th and saying
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that the documents after january 20th were not relevant to the investigation that the house oversight committee is now conducting. democrats demanding jason chaffetz, the republican chairman, do more to get those documents. they just sent a letter to him asking him to do more to push for possibly even a subpoena. right now, though, not saying that they would go that far. chaffetz saying he's satisfied with the white house's response to that oversight committee on this issue. so you're seeing, even though earlier this week, john, both republican and democrat were saying -- raising concerns about michael flynn saying he may have broken the law. today as this investigation takes a new twist, starting to see some tension along party lines as they try to move forward on this investigation. >> oversight committee breaking along part sisan lines. again, welcome to washington. manu, thanks very much. this is confusing and shocking,
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there's some partisanship involved. also a lot of questions that will take some time to get through classified documents and general flynn now under investigation by the fbi, by the defense department inspector general, by house committees and by senate committees. he rightfully so has a lawyer and this will take time. what does it mean for the president and the white house that this investigation is clearly going to go on -- investigations, plural, are clearly going to go on for months and months and months? >> it suggests to me that the white house doesn't know where this goes. they didn't seem to have much of an idea of what michael flynn was up to when he was working for the campaign, when he was in the transition, and even when he was in the white house. and so it's not surprising that they're trying to kind of limit the scope of how deep this investigation is going because if you don't know what investigators are going to necessarily find or what they're looking for, it's hard to want to open the door to them. that's why this is such a big problem. as this investigation goes on, there's a limit to how much it
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seems the white house believes they have a handle on what's going on. on what might be found. and that makes it a very dangerous political situation. but also legal situation for them going forward. >> it's really unusual for there to be so much focus on someon after they've already resigned from their job because usually the reason why a white house will toss someone overboard is they've just become too radio active and it's a drag on everybody else. what we're seeing here is general flynn continues to be a real drag on the white house long after he's gone. it suggests that if, in fact, the real and only reason why he departed was that his story with mike pence wasn't entirely straight, that was, like, the biggest gift the white house ever got, right? but part of the problem now is that it raises questions for every other major player on the administration about their own short comings with disclosures, whether they were incidental, whether they were kind of whatever, but lead to something completely different. even so, all of those --
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>> we still don't know if wooe' done with a full accounting. even if they were innocent, we keep learning about new questions. if we want in the end the american people to understand the findings and accept the findings, something was wrong. if nothing was done wrong and he had a bunch of meeting hyper suppose to disclose to accept that. can they, when we have democrats who want to see documents but they just asked the white house for them and the white house said no. that's how conversations always start in washington, d.c. the democrats are already jumping to this. >> honestly do not understand why the white house is covering up for michael flynn. i don't get it. after the president fired him. for lying. so the president fired him for lying about communications with the russian ambassador. they should be bending over backwards to help us. it does not make any sense. it makes the american people
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think the white house has something to hide. >> we don't know that yet. we're in the first 100 days. the democrats want to keep the anti-trump movement going. i get the politics of that. on something so important and so sensitive, the white house is covering up for michael flynn? if the white house is stalling on documents, call them on it. come out every day and say i asked you monday, i asked you tuesday. if they're covering up for michael flynn, then you have a scandal. on both sides the rhetoric is pretty overheated. >> this reminds me a lot of benghazi investigation. it became a probe that was s something so politically charged. both sides were released documents that supported their narrative. that seems to be what happened on the house intelligence committee and to a lesser extent what's happening with the oversight committee. in the case of the white house, the evidence points more that the white house is unable to
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comply with these requests than that they're unwilling because it doesn't seem these documents even exist, the ones that congress want. >> it does seem at times, they seem as surprised to learn things about what general flynn did and didn't do and who he told and didn't tell. we'll see when this one goes. as we inch closer to the 100 day mark, how is president trump doing on the domestic front?
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welcome back. a bit more now about how you the american people feel about the country and about president trump as he nears the 100 day mark. the polls are mostly discouraging, but here's great new. 59% say they feel good about economic conditions in the united states. 41% say poor. that's a good number anyway. think about this. it has not been good. good has not been at 59% in ten years. so people feel good about the economy right now. that generally does help a president. let's look at some of the issues. the president is struggling on the big issues. the economy, health care and immigration. if you compare to t to seven
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weeks ago. down from 55%. only 36% approve of how he's handling health care. the obamacare taking a toll. even on immigration, an issue which the administration feels it's keeping its promises, the president stanniding down a lite bit. another question. is the president keeping his promises? the country is split. 48% say he's doing a good job. 52% say a poor job. one signature promise of the president during the campaign, get tougher on what he calls unfair and illegal trade including the white house telling reporters the president was poised to pull out of the american free trade agreement. that's the agreement by bill clinton with mexico and canada. listen to the president just moments ago. he says now let's try to renegotiate. >> rather than terminating nafta, which would be a pretty big, you know, shock to the system, we will renegotiate. now, if i'm unable to make a
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fair deal to the united states, meaning a fair deal for our workers and our companies, i will terminate nafta. >> it will be a pretty big shock to the system. he's been told that for weeks. yesterday they were sending word that he was going to pull out of nafta, he was going to walk away. his pressury secretary, his commerce secretary have all told him stock markets would crash, the auto industry would be in peril. they were never going to walk away from nafta, but they give us that impression yesterday and then he spoke to the leaders of mexico and canada and voila, we're going to try to renegotiate, which is mart. but why the drama? >> even a week ago the president himself was saying i didn't realize how hard it was going to be to get back to the table and renegotiate nafta. this is something he is fixated on. he really, really wants to do that. whenever that's the case, it's very hard to move him off of
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that mark. he's always going to boomerang back to i want to pull out of nafta even though the facts of the situation don't necessarily match that conclusion. and interestingly, you know, on both ends of our border this week it's been a rough week for canada and mexico and their relationship with the united states. it started earlier in the week when trump started talking about mexico paying for the wall again. that's something that really bothers our southern neighbor. canada with the milk and the soft lumber. so the reality is that trump wants to have a lot of tough talk, but we actually do need to have good relationships with these countries and when he has those real conversations with them, he tends to soften because reality starts to set in and it's not just him yelling at a wall or yelling at his staff. it's real life. >> but if the leaders and the peep of ca nada or mexico are upset, i think he's happy because his voters know he's
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fighting in the campaign. he like the drama i guess. but where are we now? will he -- let me ask you this question and forgive me america again, but for the president to renegotiate nafta, he really needs trade promotion authority. there are rules here in washington. if he just renegotiates, and he tries to pass it, get the senate to ratify it, then you need 60 votes and you can filibuster. are they in any mood to give him a trade deal? >> no. and if anybody dealt with the negotiations last year on tpp, it was miserable, it was hard. it took a lot of political capital. it put a lot of people out on the line and they ended up getting destroyed when president trump won the election. another reality to your point, it's a process. there are processes in place to actually pull out of this. there are triggers that you need to actually click, to actually start the process of renegotiation. that's long before you even get to capitol hill where john mccain and jeff flake, a number of different lawmakers mostly on
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the border saying absolutely not. kind of a reminder, before president trump, before candidate trump, republicans were supportive of trade. very supportive of trade. so if you're going to get the chamber of commerce and those type of entities that really have a lot of power to agree to blow something up that has been so effective for their members, you have another thing coming. >> and the president says those negotiations start very soon, start today. the conversations start today. there's a formality to doing the negotiation. >> you were talking about how they said yesterday, but of course the truth is there is no "they." there's more than one. and so i think part of this really are the competing points of view inside the white house. those two say you have to break it to fix it. those who say you have to fix it to fix it. and you see a little bit of clash of those. there's also a little bit of rhetoric and semantics. in order to renegotiate, you have to threaten to withdraw. that's part of the process of
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renegotiating. >> nafta, the new obamacare. break it or fix it. i want to get to one more point the president made. he has been stymied on a couple agenda items. one a district judge who said they couldn't do what they want to do, crack down on spending to sanctuary cities. not the ninth circuit, but a district judge in the ninth circuit. the president doesn't like this court and he told you he wants to bust it. >> have you considered the pro proposalals that are out there to break up the ninth circuit some. >> absolutely i am. there are many people that want to break up the ninth circuit. you talk about judge shopping. you saw it today. i mentioned that. >> i did see. >> you see judge shopping and what's gone on with these people. they immediately run to the ninth circuit. it's got close to an 80% reversal period. and what's going on in the ninth circuit is a shame. >> this has been one of the hard
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things to figure out in the first 100 days on which subjects is he just venting and pushing and trying to stir up a conversation and on which subjects is he really going to -- is he going to get his hands dirt oh legislation, to try to reorganize the appeals court system? >> that's really tough to say. you're right that president trump can be inconsistent on those types of issues, but this is a pre-existing republican proposal that has been around for years. it's been introduced and then it fails to gain traction because democrats accuse republicans of wanting to break up the circuit court for political reasons because there's a high concentration of liberal leaning judges on the circuit. but at the end of the day there is a need to do something about the ninth circuit because of the bureaucratic log jams that are formed has caused constituents of those nine states under the jerusalem dibz jurisdiction to have to wait longer. president trump did couch his criticisms in political terms. >> up income the new trump tax
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welcome back. the trump administration mission yesterday and they stuck to it, not quite a tax plan plan. on its merits the jury very much out. still too few details to conclude all that much. but the white house tried to reach through the television set to assure americans this will be good for all of us. >> middle class families watching this tonight on the news, family of four median income, $60,000, what does it mean for them? >> it's going to be a tax cut. >> how much? >> it's going to be a tax cut. >> where do you see the benefits falling? >> middle class and business. >> cnn christine joins us from new york. christine, break down the numbers. they say the middle class will benefit. are they right? >> there are clear benefits for the waeealthy. it's unclear for the middle class. it wants to scimplify the tax
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rode. but as you just heard, the administration couldn't provide income ranges for those brackets. so who's getting hit with that 35%? someone making 25,0$25,000 a yer $200,000 a year, we just don't know. so the conclusion here is that simp simplification doesn't mean that everyone gets a tax cut. but there are clear benefits for the wealthy. the highest earn will will see their rate go down if this plan passes from 39.6% to 35%. they'll avoid an obamacare surcharge and a huge tax when they transfer wealth to their children at death. also not many people are talking about this, john, but wealthy tend to invest in companies either shares of partnerships. they could see a windfall if trump is successful in slashing
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that corporate tax rate. >> christina, one of the things the democrats talk about when you say the wealthy will wrerea they say how much will the president reap and they say they can't tell because he hasn't released his tacks. >> we're operating on a few pages of the president's tax returns, but based on the information we have, it looks like a boom for trump on three fronts. it eliminates the minimum tax, reduces taxes on the specific kind of business that trump himself owns and eliminates that estate tax. on the amt is designed to limit the ways the wealthy reduce their tax bill. here's the breakdown of the taxes he paid in 2005. most of it, about the$32 l was because of the amt. now, on his business taxes, trump org would get an immediate boost. right now those profits are subject to the 39.6% rate that
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we talked about. his plan would cut that to 15%. that is huge. finally, his kids would avoid paying a 40% tax on trump's estate eliminating this, just to put it into context, would only impact a very small number of people. only .2% of estates pay it. at this point it's very hard to determine whether or not trump is making good on his campaign promise to protect and help the average worker, but that's something that we are going to keep a very close eye on. >> we will indeed. christina, thank you very much. keep a close eye as it makes it through the congress. on the one hand here's the president's outline. he'd like a 15% rate. the speaker has been working on a rate for a long time. you think here's the republican president coming forward roughly on the same page, this is good. but there seems to be a lot of
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gr grum belling on capitol hill. >> the president said he was going to release these principles. most people in the white house were unaware. i think there was a lot of concern that most capitol hill players including the key ones, the speaker's office, finance chair, weren't looped in into what was going on come out in advance. behind the scenes those tax writers have been working together trading proposals back and forth. the houses had their own plan more or less. they would like to be looped in on these type of things. i think while there were key tenants in those principles yesterday that track with what republicans want to do on capitol hill and house republicans thrilled the white house is putting energy behind us because they're going to need it, they would like a little bit more buy in before things like this happen publicly. >> what it does seem like is an attempt to address of the main criticism that the health care was rolled out. that stake holders were not
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consulted before the ahca was put forward. that then republicans were forced to accept or reject a bill that was more or less set in stone. now the administration is just laying out the basic framework for what they'd like to see for traks t tax reform and hoping to bring in lawmakers after the fact. but that's been criticized for not putting forward detail. from the president's perspective, you mentioned the president follows the reviews. this is on the front page of every newspaper in america today. everyone's talking about it. "new york post" as we bring margaret into the conversation, the taxes chain saw massacre, can we get that up there. >> that's a framer. >> look. again, in the end, the final plan, if they pass one through congress may not look like the president's plan but it will be the president's sign when he signs it. you can quibble about the details. this is the beginning and the president's end. >> it's also -- this is not like
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a random tuesday in february. this is, you know, right before the 100 day mark when it crams everything else and the kitchen sink into this week, north korea meetings, talking to people in space and now the tax plan. >> do i get an extra deduction if i'm some space? >> no more deductions. >> well, two deductions. >> yes, two. the space deduction is coming to you in june when you see the full plan. look, part of this is 100 day positioning. part of this is showing fulfillment of a campaign promise. that's the part they want to message to average working americans. not the massive give aways. but the debate follows now. but now he can say he's gotten started on this process within the first 100 days. >> everybody sit tight. up next how to take your kids to workday work at the white house? per roll
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. welcome back. yu might not know this if you're not a parent or if you are a parent, trust me, you may have forgotten. it it's take your son and daughter to workday. yes, that includes the white house. president trump, vice president pence, little meet and greet out in the rose garden with staffers children. maybe one of those kids will be 48, 49, 50th president. we make fun of a lot of things, but this is pretty cool. if you work at the white house, your parent works at the white house, you get to meet the president and hang out at the rose garden on a beautiful day like this. >> word on the street is sean spicer gave a briefing. the kids are probably having a great time. >> they did the same thing on the hill. i was going to bring my 19 month old son to the briefing, but i was afraid he'd ask a better question. >> i brought my daughter during the obama administration when she was younger and they kept the press kids behind the rope line with the press and the
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staff kids in the nice chairs in the east room just to show them what it's really like at work. this white house rolled out the red carpet a little bit more for press. >> my older kids were here years and years and years ago. my little guy is in kindergarten. white house kids, he says they ask better questions. do they? >> they probably do, yeah. probably going to upstage some of their parents. >> they'll never match margaret's ability to ask the six-part in-depth question. >> i'm sure they'll make it seven and put it on snapchat. >> about to say goodbye. i think we can show you a picture inside the briefing room. the briefing is coming up next hour. those are actual grownups. there were kids in those chairs earlier today. if we can show you thoes. sean spicer coming out to brief
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hello, i'll wolf blitzer. day 98 of the trump administration. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. there's breaking news we're following right now as we focus in on the briefing room. any moment we expect to see white house press secretary sean spicer. there are plenty of major issues unfolding right now. issues he's going to be asked about today including new information that's emerging about the investigation into the president's former national security adviser michael flynn. as you'll remember, flynn was forced to resign for misleading the vice president of the united states and others about his dealings with russia. there are now new duocuments tht show the pentagon warned general flynn against accepting foreign pages as he entered retirement back in 2014. all this raising another set of
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ethical questions for this white house. >> early thier this week the wh house refused, absolutely refused, to produce even a single document. not a single document in response to the bipartisan document request that i sent with our republican chairman. not one syllable. i watched sean spicer make all kinds of excuses about how hard it would be to comply with our request. come on, man. look, general flynn served in his positin for 24 days. so that excuse from the white house will not fly. i honestly do not understand why the white house is covering up for michael flynn. i don't get it. after the president fired him for lying. >> our senior congressional
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reporter manu raju is joining us from capitol hill right now. manu, set the stage for us. this latest development it sounds very significant. >> it does. it's actually showing a growing tension between democrats and republicans on this house oversight committee and the democrats on the committee and the white house are trying to get documents responsive to a march letter that they believe can show -- shed new light on michael flynn and whether or not he disclosed any of these foreign payments with -- that he received from russian-backed entities in 2015 and 2016. these documents show michael flynn was warned by the defense department in 2014 that he had to get permission as a former military adviser, permission from the secretary of state and the act of army to accept any of these foreign pages and the documents also showing, wolf, that the defense intelligence agency does not have any records to back up the statement by flynn's attorney early thier th
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week that he briefed the intelligence agency before and after a 2015 trip that he took, paid for by rt, the kremlin backed television network where you see roughly for tens of thousands of dollars for that trip. now, this release of documents by the democrats sparking some pushback from republicans on the committee who believe that they should not have released these documents. this statement coming in just earlier from the spokesman for the chairman of the committee jason chaffetz, the spokes person saying though we walked hand in hand with the democrats during this investigation, this morning they broke with longstanding protocol and decided to release these documents without consulting us. the democrats are pushing back saying they did consult beforehand. there's nothing in their protocol that say they have to get permission from the republicans. just moments ago democrats sending a letter to jason chaffetz saying that they want him to push the white house harder to get these
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