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>> we have a president who shows a disturbing pension for authoritarian figures. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. it is tuesday, may 2nd, 8:00 in the east. the trump administration wants house republicans to vote this week on their health care bill. cnn's kurn whip count and it changes every hour as you might now since watching "new day" last year. it has 21 republicans against it. they could only afford to lose one more vote could republicans be on the verge of another health care defeat. >> the debate getting overshadowed by president trump's comments in a series of interviews. he's raising questions about why president andrew jackson couldn't have prevented the civil war and sounding alarms with his outreach to some of the world's reogue leaders. what is the state of play? >> very much in flux here on
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capitol hill. as you mentioned, as well as it changed within the last hour or so. we saw mike pence trying to whip up support. we were asked how he thought he would do. house republicans are trying to create this sense of urgency to get this done, this time before they are recessed if they go out on friday. but house speaker paul ryan really understanding this is a do or die situation. has yet to schedule a vote on this. >> mr. vice president, you have the votes on health care? are you going to get it passed? >> the republican effort to repeal and replace obamacare in jeopardy again. the white house ramping up pressure on house republicans to bring the new bill to a vote this week, despite waivering confidence in its fate. >> we're getting closer and closer every day, but we're not there yet. >> 21 house republicans planning to vote against the bill, which
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means they can only afford to lose one more vote or it fails. a big gamble for president trump, considering 18 other lawmakers remain undecided. some republicans warning the know count could be even higher. >> there are probably a few more no votes than 21 at the moment. i don't know what the exact number is. i heard numbers saying it is within two or three votes and as many as ten. i would suspect it is probably closer to ten than two or three. >> president trump insisting the bill will protect those with pre-existing conditions, telling bloom burg news, i want it to be good for sick people. it is not in its final form right now. it will be every good as good on pre-existing conditions as obamacare. but the bill allows states to apply for a waiver, allowing insurers to raise premiums on those with pre-existing conditions. a change that attracted some but
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alienated others.billy long withdrawing his support saying it strips away any guarantee that pre-existing conditions would be covered and affordable. the white house attempting to clarify the president's mixed messages. >> what the president is doing is ensuring going forward as we attempt to repeal and replace it that coverage of pre-existing conditions is at the core of that. so that is something he has ensured is in the current bill and will continue to push for. >> house republican conference will meet in less than an hour to see if they have the support to push this through and later they will be leading with the gop at 10:00. we expect more information. we also expect to see the vice president again spending a good deal of his day here on the hill. he is going to start by having a
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lunch with senate republicans and other lawmakers later on in the afternoon to try to build as well on this momentum. >> thank you very much for all of that. so president trump is shifting u.s. foreign policy by praising some of the world's most oppressive leaders. the president says it would be, quote, an honor to meet with north korea's kim jong-un and later he intends to speak on the phone with russia's president. what is the latest, joe? >> reporter: that call is expected to come this afternoon, and it comes at a time, quite frankly, when there are multiple investigations around washington, d.c. about russian interference in the last election. also, it comes at a time when the president of the united states is taking heat for cozying up to december pictator
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>> if it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, i would be honored to do it under the right circumstances. >> president trump sending shockwaves through the international community with the prospect of an american president meeting with north korean's brutal dictator after praising the nuclear armed december pit a day earlier. >> he was able to assume power at a young age. a lot of people tried to take that power away. he was able to do it. so obviously he's a pretty smart cookie. >> the president also issuing an inprompt due invitation. the president's willingness to cozy up to rogue leaders with atrocious human rights leader is sparking criticism from both sides of the iaisle. >> what you do is legitimize one of the bad actors in the world. >> sean spicer left to clean up the mess.
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>> he is still the head of state, so there is a diplomatic piece of it. >> and the invitation to dudarta. >> it is an opportunity to work with countries in that region what would play a role in isolating north korea. >> these aren't the only eyebrow raising comments from the president. mr. trump made this perplexes argument that the civil war fought over slavery could have been avoided. >> had andrew jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war and said there is no reason for this. >> the problem, andrew jackson had been dead for 16 years when the civil war started and was also a slave owner. president trump later acknowledging this fact on twitter while insisting president jackson, quote, saw it comi coming.
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trump also defending his unproven claim that president obama illegally wiretapped his phone, refusing to answer questions about his charge that obama is a bad or sick guy. >> you standby that claim about him? before abruptly ending the interview with cbs. >> i have any own opinions. >> i want to know your opinions. you are the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. >> more on that call this afternoon, trump and putin have spoken on the phone at least three times since trump was elected. but this will be the first time they have had a conversation since the u.s. air strike on syria, which putin has denounced. >> all right. let's bring in our panel. cnn politics reporter, chris sa liz sa. good to have you all. you can have whatever ideas you want about andrew jackson. this scrutiny the president is getting on it is he doesn't seem
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to understand the history and that he's making parallels when questioned about them he doubles down. and in that we see a pattern, strong and wrong. what do you say? >> so the president seems to pontificate and offer analysis on matters of foreign policy and history devoid of the moral underpinnings of topic that he is discussing. so the real problem here is not that he speculated about whether or not andrew jackson or somebody like him might have been able to prevent the civil war. the problem is, in my view, that he didn't talk about the reason for the civil war and why it got to where it did. and that is because of slavery. if you talk about preventing a civil war as the ultimate goal but you don't talk about ending slavery in america as actually the ultimate goal and the driver in the conflict, then you are completely missing the point and you lose an ability, i think, to
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be successful as a communicator in talking about this. and by the way, president trump is not the first politician to get in trouble because he decided to hold a think tank moment, right? about eight years ago when rand paul, the senator from kentucky was running for the senator for the first time in a television interview he was talking about the fact that maybe the civil rights act wasn't necessary and of course he invites then accusations that you don't think that there was racism in america that needed to be addressed by law. and of course he's like that's not what i'm saying. but who cares. you do not do that in a political context. but if you are going to do it, you better know what you are talking about and provide your own context and provide the fact you understand what the real issue was. in this case it wasn't just the civil war. it was slavery, and trump bifed it. >> what are we to gleam from president trump's comments, and
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are they somehow relevant? is it relevant to anything americans are dealing with today? >> yes, it is very relevant. slavery is a scar still on this nation. there are generations that still feel the effects of the atroc y atrocities of hundreds of years ago. when president trump talks about slavery in this interview, he didn't realize a man that he talked about in february, frederick douglas, talked to president lincoln about issues of slavery and trying to fix it. it shows this president does not necessarily have a grasp on history. and i called a couple of people to find out about his visit to the new smithsonian museum and find out if he indeed toured that slavery portion. he did. but prior to that some of his officials said, you know, don't let the president see some of
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the things that would cause him to be upset. this is what happened in the nation, and that museum, the first piece of it is the slavery exhibit that talks about what happened, how communities benefitted off of the free labor, free labor. they got the wealth from free labor from slaves. so it is a lot to h history lesson that the president seems to be missing. >> my 14-year-old just went there on a school trip. we do not see that kind of intellectual curiosity from the president. but this is something else. this is in addition to that. this ignoring of fact and a failure to own when you are wrong, we see it again and again and again. most notably recently the cbs interview about the wiretapping.
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he goes back there. he brings it up. ti . >> that's right. look. i would put the andrew jackson and surveillance comments separate. i think the andrew jackson thing is he doesn't oh to steve bannon likely told him he is similar to andrew jackson. he internalized that. but he doesn't have any working knowledge of that period of time. i think he just didn't know, right? the surveillance thing in my opinion is different, which is there is tangible evidence from the fbi director, from the director of national intelligence, from the speaker of the house, paul ryan saying this did not happen. president obama did not order a wiretap of trump tower in the 2016 campaign. yet, if you go to that interview, trump says i think i was way ahead of it. i think it's a big story. everyone is talking about it and everyone now agrees with me. it is provably false.
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he knows that comey, clapper, ryan, that all of these people have said he is not correct. he just refuses to acknowledge it because he refuses to ever apologize. his modus operandi is in every situation declare victory and move on. and that's what he's doing. but that doesn't change the fact that his facts don't exist currently and he refuses to provide us with them. >> i think it is instructive to watch that interview one more time because he does seem to be moving away from the question and from his response. i mean, literally and figuratively he moves away from it. so watch this. >> i just wanted to find out because you are the president of the united states. you said he was sick and bad. >> you can take it any way you want. >> but i'm asking you because you don't want it to be fake
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news. >> you don't have have to ask me. >> why? . i want to know your opinions. you are the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. thank you very much. >> he does not want to talk about it. >> i thought that was really interesting because trump always doubles down. he always wants to talk more about his opinion and here he wanted nothing to do with it. i don't know if that means he recognizes it was not a useful exercise for him, if it means he understands whatever he thinks there was to this whole charge really wasn't what he said it was. but this was a rare moment where trump wanted nothing to do with trouble that he started, totally countered to how he conducts himself normally. >> and why is it relevant? how do we deal with it? what's the push back? the push back is you didn't do this with obama. let's set aside the irony of the propaganda. now, is it a fair statement that, no, we have never dealt with a president like trump.
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we have never dealt with the volume and degree of outrageous comments that are said that are both factually inaccurate and doubled down on as consistently as with this president. >> i think it's correct. and i'd like to put it this way, chris. a lot of people say that the president, we take him too literally because what he's really doing is discussing relevant issues and forcing everybody to confront issues they wouldn't like to confront. i take the president literally because i take him seriously. when you are president of the united states, you can move markets and tank divisions. it is natural that the media but also countries around the world, allies and adversaries are going to hang on almost every word he says and i think the white house around trump understands that. i think it might help trump supporters who get frustrated with us to understand the reason we do this, is because what president trump says matters.
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>> go ahead, april. >> i'm in full agreement. this president has to understand, and i believe he's starting because we haven't seen as much of the rhetoric as we had in weeks passed. i mean, it is just 100 plus days. but early on, there were tweets that were very inflammatory and just kind of off the cuff. but the bottom line is that this presidency, not including all the other presidents, this president is very different. this president, however, understands things. he sees what his national security team is saying. he understands that some of his words have been very inflammatory and he's pulling back a bit. but words matter. there is a ripple effect. >> chris, april, david, thank you very much for all of the insight. >> you want to see a wild video trending on line? a brawl broke out between
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passengers before a flight brokes out. fist flying. a flight attendant desperately trying to stop the two men. just when you think it is over, the man in the red starts again. japanese newspaper reports he's american, drunk, acting violent, led to his arrest. unclear what started the fight. >> look at that flight attendant, that little petite flight attendant who has to get in the middle of these two clowns. look at how brave she is. i would have cowering under a seat. >> i understand why she was brave because, two, these men clearly don't know what they're doing. honestly, amy seven-year-old could have broken up that fight. last time i checked, the cat scratching technique is of limited value in close quarters. >> you are the expert. >> i mean, it's just like social
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darwinism on this flight, those who should not make it. >> all right. let us know what you think, please. meanwhile, house republicans continue their health care push. do they have the votes or could this be another defeat? we debate it next. people confuse nice and kind but they're different. it's nice to remove artificial ingredients. kind never had to. we've used real ingredients, whole nuts, and natural flavors from the very beginning. give kind a try.
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republicans could be on the verge of another health care defeat. we just don't know. the whip count is very close. the latest has 21 house
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republicans voting against the bill. there is a 22, 23 limit that they're going to have to deal with. but the republican congressman says the number could be higher. listen to him. >> i suspect there are probably a few more no votes than 21 at the moment. i don't know what the exact number s. i've heard numbers saying it is within two to three votes and as many as ten. i would suspect it is closer to ten than two or three. >> let's assume there is legitimate doubt and it raises the issue why take the chance? let's discuss. we have political commentators. couldn't have better guests. why the urgency? i know there is a recess. but you have been in there and dealt with this and you've seen it done the long view. why this way? >> i think the situation is every republican in america, whether you ran for school board or country commissioner or president of the united states, you promised to repeal and
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replace obamacare and now the majority of the house, the senate and the white house, there is no excuse for our base. you have to get the bill moving. frankly, i think they should be staying in there all weekend. they should be there at night. they should be twisting arms harder than they are. now, when it gets to the senate, it is anybody's guess on what happens. but in terms of paul ryan keeping the majority, he's got to deliver this to our base. >> but they have legitimate problems. not only do you have numbers and you need fixes and you have constituencies saying don't make it worse. there are legitimate concerns. how is ryan getting it done? what kind of negotiations are going on right now? my reporting suggests there is a lot of arm twisting that is being done. >> urgency is good. but actually passing a bill is even better. this is becoming an i love lucy
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episode. the problem is this, members of congress casting their vote on this bill, if they cast a vote this weekend are thinking about that 30 second ad a few weeks before the election. there are 23 republicans who represent districts that were carried by hillary clinton. they can only afford to lose 22 votes. those guys are in a vice squeeze and every time paul ryan offering something to a moderate republican, he loses a vote on the far right. no appellamatter what happens, l is dead on arrival. >> i've heard that people in the house and the gop moderate side are being told, look, just do this. it will be okay in the senate. it will be fixed. that's a dangerous bargain. >> it is very dangerous. btu was a tax that president clinton had the democrats vote on that was killed in the senate and most of the things that went along with the president lost.
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so paul ryan and the republicans are faced with that. but i still believe that what they have to do is in the post ear mark world, where you could direct congressional spending and kind of reward and punish good behavior if you were in leadership and i think there is still things that the administration could do to help individual members overcome this -- >> like what? >> well, i think if you are the president -- >> let's say you are down there in south florida, you have a lot of people on medicaid. there is a good chance the governor would go on the waiver, what do you do? >> you might not do it directly in health care. you might say your highway is one of the worst traffic jams in the country. we're going to widen that road and do something for residents, something that offsets the political good will that you are about to burn on health care. that's how the country has been run for 200 years and everybody
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thinks, well, that's disgusting. >> right or wrong, it's a lot, steve. can you put 20 deals with men and women who all have the same legitimate concern like i may get killed back home on this because if people get their coverage cut, you may have a tax savings -- >> you may build bridges, pave highways, but that 30-second ad that you raised premiums or voted to take away health care, it is lethal. >> here is what to watch in terms of putting this deal together. congress is scheduled to go out to session at 4:00 on thursday. there are a bunch of congressional delegations on friday. on wednesday or so or thursday morning, if those congressional delegations start to get canceled, that tells you paul ryan is going to vote on friday. maybe they stay over the weekend. i doubt it. i don't see how they could cobble it together. but you watch how those congressional delegations start to get postponed or canceled. that's a tell tail sign.
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>> how much juice do you think he has, jack, in terms of saying you guys got a vote on this now? and did he help himself or hurt himself with getting the preconditions thing wrong? >> well, i think giving states flexibility always leans in the favor of the republicans who want to return as much control as possible back to states and local governments. so i don't see that as a big problem. but what i do think is the president still has enormous popularity in our base. to give you an examexample, he to atlanta and raised $750,000. he can do into his district and raise a lot of money. the pull of the president is huge because he could make a lot of things happen. he has raised twice the money at this time as obama did during the first three months of his presidency. >> popularity, i hear you on it. certainly within the base. but does he have the bully
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pulpit on the issue. do you think the men and women doubtful about this look at the president and say he gets this bill. he's selling me on it? >> i think he had it saturday night in pennsylvania and i think we are seeing over and over again he could drum up a crowd. it is an absolute cross pressure. but people have already voted on this. they will reach back three or four years if they need to. >> vote this week? >> 50/50. >> i doubt it. >> all right. gentlemen, couldn't ask for better insight than that. thank you very much. >> president trump abruptly ending an interview after doubling down on his false claim he was wiretapped by president obama. why this body language? is he moving away from that claim? we debate it next. kevin, meet your father.
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is president trump moving away from his unproven claim that president obama wiretapped him during the campaign? watch this moment. >> i just wanted to find out, though. you are the president of the united states. you said he was sick and bad. >> you can take it any way you want.
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>> but i'm asking you because you don't want it to be fake news. >> you don't have to ask me. >> why not? >> because i have my own opinions. you can have your own opinions. >> but i want to know your opinions. you're the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. thank you very much. >> let's bring in our commentators to talk about this. that body language, you can't overlook that. he was literally moving away from the question and dismissing it with his hand and walking away and ending the interview. what does that mean about his feelings? >> look, we have not seen any direct evidence that president obama literally issued a warrant against president trump or sish couple vented the process. there is no direct evidence of that. there are questions about surveillance. there were questions about unmasking. there are questions about why mike flynn's name was linked to the washington post. i think, look, it would be worth him coming out and saying i perhaps should have been clearer in my tweet. there are real problems with
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surveillance, but there was no direct evidence and i should have been clearer in the tweet. >> you are calling for him to clarify what he said. is it worth an apology for president obama? >> i think the best route is to apologize, particularly because he called him a bad guy. but i think we, as americans, need to see evidence or there needs to be clarity and specification given as to why the tweet was -- >> and we have not seen evidence of his claims? >> right, we have not. >> in fact, president trump's head of the fbi has said president obama did not wiretap anybody, certainly not candidate trump. the president trump's own head of the national security agency said the same thing in congressional testimony because it is a lie. and i twist myself, i guess we all do, in a pretzel like what is the method behind the
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madness? why does this guy lie all the time? and i just think it is his nature. i think he can't help it. kailey is right. kailey would be a much better president trump. my dog would be a better president than trump. >> do you see something different? do you see him saying i am moving away literally and figuratively from this and maybe that means he no longer agrees with his words. >> right. he's clearly a bright man and he knows facts and he can understand when the fbi colledir says it didn't happen. >> what he said there is you have your opinion. i'm entitled to my opinion. >> this has been very damaging about the trump presidency, is that lots of things are opinion. maybe he need to pass this health care bill. maybe we don't. some things are facts. the president of the united states, barack obama, did not violate the constitution and the
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law by wiretapping donald trump. that was a falsehood. it was a lie. i think he's bright enough to know it but he's not man enough to admit it. >> i take issue with the l word. democrats continually using the word lie because that means you intentionally deceived. we don't know what documents president trump saw or what he heard from within the administration that there were these unmasks requests that seemed to be unusual. >> we know what you said, which is that there are no facts to support his accusation. and so he's not backing down from it. yet, he's not apologizing. he's not saying i was wrong. i stand corrected. so at the moment we know that this is a fact. are you frustrated when he blurs facts and opinions? >> look. i'm more frustrated by democrats calling him a liar. he said he was using wiretapping in the conventional sense, not specifically tapping of my phone. it was used in a supreme court case in the sense he used it back in the ' 8 0z. when he takes it to the length
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of taking it to president obama without having the specific facts, i think to call him a liar, unless you have a window into president trump's mind and knew he was intentionally trying to deceive, i think it is a bridge too far. >> as he took office, he paid $25 million in fraud to people who are suing him for fraud. he didn't admit wrongdoing but paid $25 million to people accusing him of fraud. i tried not to use that word starting out because i think you can overuse it and i think it is a powerful word. he makes false statements with the intention to mislead and misinform and to attack and distract. that's why he does it. >> how do you know that he does it with the intention to distract? >> because the fbi says, right? he knows. he watches tv all the time. he saw his own fbi director saying we looked into this carefully and there is no evidence. so he now knows and he's repeating it again.
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he does this time and again. with president obama and his birth certificate for years when he knew that was a lie. he did it with the crowd size. you can look at the pictures. >> now that we're passed 100 days, is it time for him to change that pattern of sort of being loose with facts and making his opinion public? >> we haven't seen anything like the obama wiretapping tweet. he initially starting off commenting on snl. we have seen him remove himself from the direct criticism of journalists. i think we shouldn't call him a liar. i think we should afford president trump the same respect. >> we all lie. the washington post fact checker says in the first 100 days, he told 489 false statements. >> thank you very much for being here. >> all right. so the abrupt end to that cbs
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interview that they were just talking about, it is not the first time he has done that. a look at the walk out tactics that the president uses when it gets, i don't know, too hot in the kitchen. ahead. we're on to you, diabetes. time's up, insufficient prenatal care. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. optum. how well gets done.
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time now for the five things to know for your new day. the trump white house turning up the heat on house republicans trying to force a vote this week on the health care bill. at this point republicans still don't have the votes to pass it. >> president trump embracing some of the world's most oppressive leaders. we will speak with russia's leader today after saying, quote, it would be an honor to meet with north korea's kim jong-un. >> president trump open to a gas tax hike as a way to pay for infrastructure improvements. >> classes resume at the university of texas after a student went on a stabbing attack.
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the suspect is in custody. police so far said they have no motive. >> united airlines ceo will testify on congress about customer service after the airline dragged off that doctor from a flight. >> those are the five things to know. how here is a look at some extra headlines. ♪ mts. it does upset the whole day when you go in there and the mower doesn't start.
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liberty mutual insurance. half the votes this week. that's what the white house is telling gop lawmakers. the question is do they have the votes or not. let's get the bottom line. we've heard the calculus. you need to tax savings here to motivate the tax plan and we'll go and wrap that into
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infrastructure. but if you do not have the votes with any certainty, why not delay? why gamble? >> given the fact they have already lost once and there is a good chance they are going to lose twice. we talk about you made news this morning with the members saying -- >> he told us on the air he had decided yes he would vote for us. >> but i think charlie dent was absolutely right last night. if this does go down, it's not going to be two votes, it is going to be ten votes because you will see a block of people end up moving over. nobody wants to be that one vote that takes down president trump's health care initiative. >> one of the things the congressman told us this morning was that he believes that pre-existing conditions will still be covered under this plan. but then just like president trump he said, but it will be up to the governors. we will pass it down to the states. and then the governors can
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deci decide. >> it means there is no guarantee at all. in some ways, maybe they could play with the language and they it is going to be guaranteed. >> because they will set up these high risk pools. >> correct. and those are extremely expensi expensive. >> he wants to be governor of ohio, right? and i have a governor in my house. used to have two. he says, yeah, yeah, sure, you are going to shift it on to us, but you are not going to give me the money. so you will say it is up to the governor, but by the way, you are not going to get the money for medicaid. by giving them the possibility to do that, you are basically guaranteeing that someone is going to use it. yet, we keep hearing them say, people don't lose coverage. how damming could that statement become? >> specifically when we met into the mid-term elections. you are going to see 20
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democrats that will be up. you know, of course they will be fined based upon this issue, but you also have other republicans up as well. it is an unfunded mandate and for those who are out there wondering what that means, it means the federal government is telling the state they have to do something but we are not going to give you the money. that's where you see a strain on state budgets. >> let's talk about what will burr ross said about the moment that president trump decided to launch those missiles at syria. he described the moment and he says just as desert was being served, the president explained to mr. xi he had something he wanted to tell him. it was in lieu of after dinner entertainment. it didn't cost the president anything to have that entertainment. so those are glib comments. how do you interpret them? >> factually he's wrong because those missiles cost a lot of money, right? the fact of the matter is.
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but your point, glib, unfortunate, stupid. i'm sure he regrets it. we've all said stupid things. you're talking about the loss of life and you're talking about war. but i do think that we should perhaps give him a little bit of leeway on this. >> because he's not a polished politician? >> well, yeah, but let's see if he comes out and apologizes and if he does, let's move on. >> or you let him dangle out there to distract from what the president has been saying recently. >> comedian jimmy kimmel got serious and talked about something worth hearing, a health care involving his newborn son. the story has a good ending. we will explain it in our good stuff next. hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..."
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whfight back fastts, with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums >> different kind of good stuff today. a different side of jimmy kimmel. the comedian choking up on his show last night revealing a health scare with his newborn son. >> billy was born with a heart disea disease, something called pulmonary atrecia. this is what he looked like on
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monday. but this is what he looked like yesterday. >> oh, my gosh. look at that. >> he had successful open heart surgery. he is going to need more procedures. this isn't over for jimmy and his wife. he named the doctors and nurses who saved his son's life, in his estimation. and i'll tell you, it is not easy to open yourself up like that to an audience with what's going on in your real life, but there is something about what a kid does to you and that urgency of protecting them that was beautiful to see. >> absolutely. and everybody is praying for him and obviously pulling for that little baby. his smile, that's young for a baby to be able to smile that broadly. we just hope that he comes through everything healthy and well. meanwhile, on a lighter note, president trump employs a range of tactics to walk out of interviews when he wants to. cnn explains. >> you can have your own opinion. >> what really made it more than
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enough. >> it's enough. >> was the dismissive wave. interview over. >> but i want to know your opinions. you're president of the united states. >> john dicker son was thank youed out the door. 27 years earlier it was donald trump that walked out after tough questions from cnn about the financial health of his casinos. >> back to the negative. you know what, do this interview with somebody else. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the phone. >> do the interview with somebody else, really. you don't need this. do it with something else and have a good time. >> instead of thank you, it was good luck. >> sorry you feel that way. >> actually, trump's walk-outs are rare when you consider how many hundreds, even thousands of interviews he's done over the years. he has never come close to terminating me. though as a presidential candidate trump walked off on
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two ohio tv reporters in a single day. >> 19 days out from the election, you have been labeled a racist, a sexist. how do you respond to that? >> i am the least racist person you have ever met. >> this after a woman came out accusing trump of touching her. >> can you answer allegations about that? >> i know nothing about that. >> trump clearly knew nothing about fake rapper ali g. trump declined to invest. >> good luck, folks. you take care of yourself, okay? it sounds like an interesting sell. >> trump tends to be harder on the microphone than the interviewer. >> that's enough. >> cnn new york. >> look, very polite, even when
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he walks out. doesn't raise his voice. doesn't yell at anybody. we've seen other presidents who can be yellers. very polite. >> the question is why he puts himselves in the situations. when something winds up shown to be false, stay away from it. move on. that's the nature of the business. end of life. >> let's see if they are going to discuss that on cnn news room. >> you walked away from me during a conversation. >> there's no conversation i don't walk away from you on. that's my m.o. >> tell them how you walk off this set every morning. you rip the mike off. >> all right, guys. we got a lot to get to. let's get started. all right. hello, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. a crucial hour happening right now. republicans meeting behind closed doors to determine the fa

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