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region and talks about moving the embassy, it could tretten talks. >> that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >> up next, breaking news, susan rights takes the stand, refusing a request to testify about russian medaling in the election. why? plus james comey said he's mildly nauseous that he may have impacted the election. stunning new video tonight, the devastating after mathd from the mother of all bombs dropped on isis. you'll see it here. let's go "out front." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "out front," the breaking news, cnn learning tonight that susan rice is refusing a request to testify at a senate hearing on
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russian meddling in the election. senator lindsay graham called susan rice to testify. republicans are eager to hear from her. president trump has accused her of likely breaking the law. his charge that rice requested the unmasking of trump association names who were caught up in surveillance of russian officials. she said she did it in an effort to hurt the trump campaign. trump claimed it was a massive story, having no evidence. jim sthuto broke the shore and is out front front tonight. why refusing to testify for susan rice. >> reporter: i'm told susan rice used this as a partisan request. lindsay graham and sheldon whoit house wrote to her. he said i don't see your testimony as germane to the
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subject, which is russian hacking in the election. i was told she was going to accept the invitation when she thought it was coming from republicans and democrats. she saided when she found out, no, it is part sedan. of course, the focus, her concern, is it going to be a conversion to take away the russian experience and focus on the uncorroborated claims that she tried to unmask people relat relates. >> the fbi director, jim comey testified today for four hours. >> yeah. >> he repeatedly and passionately defended his decision to go public with the clinton e-mail just days before the election, right? >> that's exactly right. he said he had no regrets. he said it was a very difficult,
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he said even painful decision for him personally that he's gone back over since then many times. each time he does, he doums the conclusion that he made the right call. at times definal and other times reflective, james comey said his idea to go public in the clinton e-mail probe made him feel nauseous but he has no regrets. >> it makes me mildly nauseous but it wouldn't change decision. >> he said he doubted that top officials in the department of justice could carry out the investigation without did perception of bias. this even before a highly publicized meeting between then attorney general loretta lynch and former president bill clinton on a phoenix tarmac. >> her meeting with president clinton on that airplane was the capper for me.
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i then said, you know what, the department cannot by itself credibly end this. that was a hard call for me to call the attorney general and say i'm about to call a press conference and i can't tell you what i'm going to say. >> reporter: director comey argued it was a matter of timing, too early for the trump election, not so for the clintons. >> had it been shown that there was investigation into both campaigns, i think the impact would have been different. would you agree? >> we didn't confirm it existed until three months after it started and it started publicly. we don't confirm the existence of any investigation that involves a u.s. person or a class fight investigation in its early stages. >> comey also defended his decision to notify congress the day before the vote that the fbi
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was reopening the investigation after discovery of aums on the computer of you'll aip an dean. >> they're being forwarded to him. i think for him to print out for her. >> it was that discovery that led comey to write his infamous 11th hour letter to congress. >> i had to tell congress we are taking these additional steps. two actions speak or conceal i don't think many reasonable people would do it differently than i did. >> another topic regarding leaks. when pressed repeatedly by lawmakers, james comey said he has never leaked classified information nor authorized his
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staff to leak information. >> thank you very much. jim. the democratic senator cory booker sits on the foreign relations committee. i want to stoortd with the breaking news on susan rice declining the decision to testify. there are concerns that rice tried to learn the identities of trump officials during the campaign for political reasons. that's the republican charge do you support her decision not to testify? >> first of all, trump makes a lot of wild accusations, outright lies. i wish she would come in and testify. lindsay graham is a straight shooter. i would like to hear fromler. anyone who understands the experiences that rice has had as somebody who's been attacked in a partisan manner for her entire
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career, why her lawyers don't want her to become prey to what might become a partisan witch hunt. i've known her going back to before both of us were in washington. she's a straight shooter patriot serving this country. clearly as someone who believes we should get to the truth, i wish she would come in. the very important fact is this is why i and so many people with the gravity of what's happening with the russian attacks on our country, this is -- we should have an independent special counsel investigating this that would have access toe interviews with susan rice. >> i want to ask you -- you make your point. you bloef her but you wish she would come in and speak her peace and that lindsay p graham is a great shooter. i want to ask about mr. comey. i know you don't agree with many of the decisions he made last fall. he said again and again and
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again today when it comes to the 11th hour clinton investigation announcement, he would do it all over again. let me play a couple of quick collins. >> it makes me mildly nauseous. honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. i pray to find a thirds door. i couldn't find it. two actions. speak or conceal. i don't think many reasonable people would do it differently than i did. >> he said reasonable people would have done the same thing as they would you call him a reasonable person? >> what he did to me is flat wrong. he talks about being nauseated. he interfered with an election at a time when all he had to do was taken the extra stem to actually see if there's anything substantive in those e-mails and if he found something, then notify congress.
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he is dead wrong in this case. he knows he's wrong. reality is he did something that was uncalled for, unnecessary and ultimately sbrunsed an american election that was highly inappropriate for the fbi. >> when you hear him say he prayed to find a third door, it was incredibly painful, he felt nauseous, do you believe him? >> look. i have respect for him in many ways, many areas. but in this case what he did to me was unacceptable. it should be outrageous, democrat or republican, to have in the final moments of the presidential election, no party who be welcoming this standard he just set based on no concrete evidence. he hasn't found anything. he was in the midst of an investigation. he should have gone further in a private investigation. it should be unacceptable for all of us to alloy an fbi drosh to interfere in an american
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election. >> do you think he should step down? he's in the middle of a term here. words you're using, seems a fair question for you. >> again, i'm not making any conclusion about that at all. i wish he would come clean and be clear that he did not have to do this. he could have continued the investigation. by the way, if he did find something that ultimately proved to be not relative to the investigation, but if he did find something, i would want him to come forward. he had nothing else to do. it's outrageous he's defending himself in this manner. i think he should say, hey, i was wrong, in hybridhindsight but we're moving forward. at least he koovp given us the najs that is this is not going to be a precedent moment in american history where an fbi director could interfere in an american election the way this
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happened. it's almost the stuff of science fiction that this could happen in this day and age. >> you won't go so far as a result of that you're saying he should step down? >> he should be helds accounts. there should be accountability for this what that is, i don't know. but this is a person that's not taking responsibility for their action and not owning up to the mistake he made. he should be held to account. >> he also talked today about russia's medaling in the election. here's what he said about the medaling in the election. >> is it fair to say that the russian government is still involved in american politics? >> yes. >> is it fair to say we need to stop them from doing this? >> yes, fair to say. >> do you agree that the reason they're going to stop is to pay a price for interfering into our political process? >> i think that's a fair
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statement. >> senator, do you think the trump administration will try to stop russia from doing this or not? >> well, so this is the difference between what we were talking about before. his mistake and medaling is one thing. when have you have a foreign nation who has virtually -- quite literally atakds our electoral process, where there's no, sir question to that, where you have independent investigates tore agencies confirming that. and for the president of the united states to be so dismissive that he's kplands more in the last month about nordstroms than the russians. this is a foreign nation that has atakds us. and they're continuing to do such activity and determined to do it more, more emboldened in it. if we don't take action, it's going to continue to happen. what i know from my briefings and my engagement, they're getting more and more
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20-foot-high ballard ball is the most effective way to do this. this is what we got out of those bill. >> are they a wall or a fence? >> there are various types of walls that can be built. the latest legislation alous us to do. that is called a levee wall on the left, that is called a ballard wall. >> that's not a wall. it's a levee wall? >> it is called -- that's the name of it. >> but fencing, not a wall. >> no, no. in this current bill it allows to us do the following. we've taken the tools that we have to replace -- and if you look at that one in particular, you've got a chain link fence currently at our southern boarder. the that is literally down there now. we're able to go in there and instead of having a chain link
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fence relays it with that ballard wall. that exists. >> it's not the wall the president promised. >> hold on, jim -- charlie asked the same thing, so i'll give you a little help on this. this is the 2017 budget. this is a downpayment on what the president will spend on the 2018 budget. >> jason carroll is at the house. the white house, you heard, they're going to be able to build this wall. >> right. look, this isn't it, not yet. i know spicer was saying this is a downpayment. there's a lot of argument on that front. they're making a lot of effort to show, look at this picture, look at that picture, look at this great big glorious wall that's being built. at the end of the day this is not the wall donald trump talked
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so much about, it would be so big it would have his name on it. the administration did not get the funding this budget go-around for that. what they did, they got some $ 300 million for border security. that allows them to maintain existing barriers that are already on the border. let's say there's a fence that's falling down or part of a wall that ha has a hole in it that needs mending, they have the funding to fix that. what they do not have is the some $12 billion that this president wanted and that's some of the estimates, 10 to $12 billion to build this wall. that's not what the president got this go-around. perhaps he'll get that in september when they try to get another bungtd. they didn't get it this time. perhaps next time. >> thank you very much. our editor at large and our
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politics director. ok. so one interesting thing in a came out, they're obviously not able to build a new ball. but they're saying there's a hole in the wall or something goes over or under or whatever, that they can replace it with something much more stalwart. right? we could basically put up a wrault where there's not a wall now. >> nowhere in sean spicer's extraordinary statement was he saying mexico will pay for the wall. i guess we'll table that for now. >> yeah. >> in this agreement that was approved this week to keep the government open, the white house totally caved on this, so the government wouldn't shut down. there is $321 million more for border fencing and yes, that will help in some respects but this does nothing to help build the wall. the reason the president is so adamant about this. he's furious, i'm told, about
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the press coverage of this. he's now in a fight with himself and conservatives on this. not even democrats. democrats are on the sidelines watching. >> they didn't care what the question -- >> no. >> he had a whole bunch of pictures of fences, which by the way i'm going to get. fence versus wall is not a semantics issue here. he came ready with all this. >> yes. >> no matter what they asked he was going to do this. >> and this is day two. the office of management and budget had the same thing. look, here's what it is now. here's the fortification that will be here later. this is bad spin. it just is. the reality of the situation, donald trump said a week and a half ago i need $1.4 billion as a downpayment on the wall. congress, including hawks on the republican side said no. i would say rightly that government shutdown is much more disastrous than giving in on this for the moment and they
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gave in. i think that's smarts politics. but donald trump doesn't like to lose, so he wants to find a way to win. he's going to say see this chain link fence, it's going to be a bigger wall. this is not the wall. this is a wall. >> that begs the question, though. >> yes. john donald trump loves a win. take the win that you didn't shut down the federal government the other day. i don't understand why he isn't touting that. when you're explaining, you're losing. that's exactly what sean spicer was doing today. he now is in some nuanced land for funding that doesn't exist about a wall or a ballard fence or a hole in the fence that you can drive a car through. whatevers chlgs he's trying to explain nuance. the simplicity is not attainable. just i'm going to builds a wall along the southern border and
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have mexico pay for it. >> on the issue of waulg and fence, ok. sean spicer -- everyone saw the reporters. here is why. the president is the one who cares about this distinction. here he is. >> the fence. it's not a fence. it's a wall. you just misreported it. we're going to build a wall. >> so the word "fence" matters to him. some of those pictures the reporter are pushing, they look like fences. sean spicer said they were actually a ballard wall. they call it a ballard fence, not a ballard wall. this word clearly matters to them. they don't want to call it a fence. >> because the president, then candidate started calling it a wall on the campaign. i don't know if he really is hard pressed, whatever they
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built. he called it a wall, now he wants to call it the wall. this is something his supporters really wanted. he -- as we speak, there is a group at the -- in the homeland security office who are already working on building this. they don't have the money for it yet but they are planning it. there's so many problems. a lot of land is owned by private owners. we could go on for hours about the issue of building this waulg, but the president wants it. >> i think it is unlikely mexico winds up paying for the wall. that means the u.s. government has to find a way to pay for it, if it's going to follow through. they built their messaging for the last 25 years on being fiscally conservative. we want to shrink the amount of government spending. all of a sudden we're talking
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about conservatively $15 billion to build a wall that may not even be able to be built. this is small potatoes compared to the big question, where does the money come from. could house republicans abandon the idea of shrinking the debt and the deficit and say, we'll build the wall. mexico will they're etly in the future pay us back. >> most republicans would say they were for a wall. >> republicans -- republican voerkts as jeff said, totally wanted this. >> yes. >> and trump's voters were totally invested in this. if you talk to republicans and democrats, they thought it was silliness. now that he's president and trying to make it a governing reatlanta, they're -- part the expression -- up against the wall. >> it's a ballard fence, david. >> "out front" next, breaking
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will vote on a health care bill tomorrow. this is according to two gop aides. the house majority leader kevin mccarthy saying the republicans have the votes. the number, 216. phil mattingly is "out front." phil, a huge development. they're going to bring this to a vote. they have the votes to pass it. is this a sure thing? >> reporter: emerging from the speakers office to tell reporters they had decided to go forward. leadership has been unequivocal about this. they were not going to bring this to the house floor until they knew they had the votes to pass it. they've scheduled four votes and pulled them off, not being able to get there. i'm being told that they are there, they are right on the edge. throughout the course of this day, this full-court press believe seen, president trump,
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vice president pence trying to get them to this point, they are not clearly over the 216 number they appear to. if they are there, they are right on the edge right now. the house majority leader kevin mccarthy saying they're there, saying they have the votes and tomorrow is the day to get this done. >> thank you very much. i want to go to michael burgess of texas. he met with president trump on that bill today. you're a doctor. let's start -- >> thanks for having me on. >> you heard phil mattingly. you think you've got to votes and will bring it tomorrow. you're right on the edge. we've known times that it's been close but it's failed. why is this different? is it going to pass? >> i learned the same way as you did and had just as itches sitting here getting ready for your show, i got the e-mail that we'll be going into the rules committee in about an hour's
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time. that's a pretty good sign, if we're going to rules that we're going to vote on rules committee tonight and it will be on the floor tomorrow. i agree with you, they would not bring this forward if they were not certain of success. >> how certain are you? urn in the room with president trump today. there were five of you, including him. two of your colleagues were no vose and they've turned into yes votes. what did he say to turn this? >> correct. and the amendment that was put forward by former chairman upton of michigan and billy long of missouri was to provide additional protections for people who in the individual market who had not kept continuous coverage on their insurance who were feld to be at risk because of the mcarthur amendment that would have allowed states to opt out of some of the insurance regulations. this segment of the population,
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although narrow, certainly sympathetic. both chairman upton and mr. long of missouri both felt strongly that there ought to be additional protections for this group. >> was the president convincing? did you get the feeling that this is a guy that can make a deal or -- >> oh, yeah, very much so. i'll be honest with you. originally, the presidents was -- we're through adding amendments. i'm sure he's as are frustrating as we are. i was on the authorizing committee. i thought we hood a good product when he concluded that night. there have been days i've been discouraged that things seem to change along the way. the president reasoned to what these two members brought to him. the idea that was presented. and he felt it was definite with everything that the president had sewed about wanting to protect people with preexisting conditions. and again we are talking about a
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very narrow segment of the individual market in people's who is -- who did not keep continuous coverage who might then be at risk in a state that was granted a waiver out of some of these 234shance provisions. so it is a small but very sympathetic part of the population and the president was sensitive to that. for that, i appreciate it. we listened. we talked to him for a long time, about an hour's visit we had in the overall office. >> yeah. >> he was genuinely curious about why these two members felt so strongly about this amendment. at the end of the discussion, i think we all agreed this was something we could move forward. other groups had signalled their support and so there you are. >> on the subject of preexisting conditions, i want to ask you about it. >> sure. >> these are people -- we heard jimmy kimmel talking the other night. >> right.
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>> people with preexisting conditions are guaranteed coverage under the obama care bill. that's why the gop took it out of the bill, right? >> no, no, no. it is passing through the authori authorizing -- >> this is the amendment that mr. upton cared so deeply about. getting more money for preexisting conditions. what i want to ask you about is this $8 billion. nobody -- the estimates out there still show people with preexisting conditions could pay a whole lot more in premiums. they weren't prepared to say those people wouldn't pay more. is it still the realty that people with preexisting conditions will pay a lot more under this bill? >> no one even knows at this point if any state will ask for a waiver.
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nobody knows if the second of health and human services will grant that. but in the event it does happen -- and there were some members who felt strongly that the states should be able to have this waiver -- that's what forced them to be for the bill along the way. this was an additional layer of protection. he agreed that this protection was a good film so cal approach. the actual -- some of the actuarial reports we've seen showed that this will more than cover the number of people who might be involved. and this is money that is available, $8 billion over the next five years. one billion each year for the first two years, two building every year after that to a total of five years. this is 23e89 to be quad protection. after a year's time, it's not like they'll have this status indefinitely. after a year's time paying the premium for which they get help,
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then they've been in continuous coverage, then they are back in the pool. it is knots the indefinite open arrangements that it was in years passed. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. the congressman going into the rules committee and going to the floor tomorrow for a vote. >> coming up, the impact of the mother of all bombings dropped on isis. we'll show you exactly what it looked like in the aftermath of the most powerful bomb dropped since hiroshima. because they have tvs in them. and, when we're not in those rooms, we want our shows to go with us. anywhere? you got that right, kid show thing. get a directv all-included package for 4 rooms. only $25 a month, price guaranteed for 2 years. available for at&t unlimited plus customers.
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. new tonight, the backlash against ivanka trump's new book. a number of people in the book are taking task, distancing themselves from the book. this includes jane goodall and spiritual leader depack chopra. erin, let me start with you. there are 2308 names cited in this book. she has a lot of inspirational
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quotes from people, gandhi, oprah, depack chopra. not everyone is happy. one tweet, ivanka trump don't use my story on women who work unless you're going to stop being complicit. fair criticism? >> first of all, she has the voice to talk to 40,000 young girl with her organization. shame on her. hey, if we don't agree with everything another woman said, let's bully them on twitter. she really is stepping on the face of feminism. >> aamanda? >> if she wants to use her voice, she stoontshouldn't steal other people's words. this is a really bad book rollout. number one, you run stories by
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very famous people when you're going to use their stories to make sure they don't blind side you in the press. make sure the official reviews are good. her reviews, she's being savaged, coming off as a light weight and a poser for working women because she doesn't understand the struggles most working moms have. she's not in a position to respond. why do you write a book, put it out when you can't do a press tour. they should have put this whole thing on pause. she should have re-evaluated her method and take a pause if she wants to be a presidential advisor. now she's being savaged. it's the worst ever. >> the new york daily news, not a fan of trump was less scathing. they wrote "an ernest, if not sometimes unrelatable treatise
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on work-life balance mother hood and workplace environment. let me read this. ivanka writes during extremely high capacity times i worked, i was with my family. i didn't do much else. honestly, i wasn't treating myself to a massage. i wish i could have woken early to meditate for 20 minutes. >> do do you see a problem in a paragraph like thattor to? >> in a 210 page book we can pick something out and say it's not favorite. meditation has nothing to do with affluence. it's actually tied to a lack of affluence. we've read about nannies and stuff like that. but to be criticized for having help is so wrongs. honestly, if you're at work somebody has to watch your children. as a working mom myself i know
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you're never in the position to do everything for everyone. moms already feel the gift. let's not double down and jump it on ivanka trump. >> there wasn't a time for massage. they were working all the time. that shows the double standard she kind of has in her position in the campaign, her position in the government. let alone take away the expensiveness of a massage. most people don't have the money, much less the time. the campaign staffers i know, they barely had time to get clean clothes. they weren't sleeping, period. main i should have worked on the trump campaign where you can get sa imagines. >> didn't she say she didn't have time for the massage. >> yeah. but she totally did. that's the sacrifice we're going to campaign. >> other staffers are working a lot harder than she did. >> that's unfair.
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>> she does not troelt the issues of working women. when her idea of a sacrifice is not getting a massage that week when most women are trying to squeeze in e-mails between diaper changes and all the rest, that's her. >> on one day in pennsylvania we arrived around 6:30 in the morning and left around 10:00 tonight. she was on the phone the entire day. she said when she got home she was going to make a birthday cake for her daughter. >> great! that's great. >> she's hands on and she's also a mom that does a lot for her children. >> listen, i'm not out -- >> she is -- thank you. >> this entire bad rollout is her fault. she shouldn't have put the book out at this time. they should have vetted it. this is going to damage her brand long term. i hope for the sake of her career, she takes a break and
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new tonight. incredible access to the site where the trump administration dropped the mother of all bombs in afghanistan. just how much damage did that do? here's new footage with barbara starr. >> reporter: from the air, it looked almost like a mushroom cloud. massive destruction on the ground now visible from the mother of all bombs that was used against isis fighters in afghanistan. caves and tunnels torn apart, among the rubble and trees. dozens of fighters hiding in this remote valley. afghan national police filmed this just days ago. u.s. troops tried to land here, but still came under fire two weeks after the u.s. for the first time used it's largest nonnuclear bomb in combat.
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>> this munition, this weapon, was the right weapon against the target. >> reporter: the u.s. believes there still may be 600 isis fighters in afghanistan, but it's determined to get them out of this area. >> since they arrived, isis has dragged elders out of their homes and beheaded them in front of their families. >> reporter: even today, isis claims responsibility for a bomb in moab. about 50 troops flew 3 1/2 miles past the strike to where the leader of isis is suspected of hiding. the mission turned deadly for americans almost instantly. as the helicopters landed, a
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firefight broke out, two u.s. troops were killed in what is now believed to be a friendly fire incident, the remains of joshua roberts and cameron thomas returned to their families. a full investigation now under way on how it happened. back in those mountains, the u.s. is pushing isis fighters southward toward taliban-held areas and the groups are getting into firefights with themselves. officials say that's just fine. jeanne moos on donald trump and what he has in common with elmo. >> elmo wants to know, how can elmo find out? i never joined in. that wasn't fair to any of us. i was covered. i tried lots of things over the years. but i didn't give up. i kept on fighting. i found something that worked.
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ever notice donald trump talks about himself in the third person a lot? here's jeanne moos. >> he's first when it comes to the third person. >> nobody would be tougher on isis than donald trump. >> reporter: and this week he did it in a tweet. that's donald trump himself tweeting, perhaps trump just ran a great campaign? which prompted author j.k. rowling to poke the president, i wonder if donald trump talks to himself in the third trump person when trump's alone? >> if putin likes donald trump. >> reporter: this is a man who tweeted congratulations donald on his own apprentice ratings. he said thanks donald when c
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consumer confidence went up. remember this guy? >> thank you obama. >> reporter: for lower gas prices. psychologist kevin vulcan has two theories for president trump's use of the third person -- >> i think he's branding himself and this could be indicative of narcissism, where you're constantly referring to yourself. >> no side tracks donald, nice and easy. >> reporter: some say toddlers are narcissists before they gas the target of i and me. tweeted one trump critic, he gives third person talkers like cookie monster a bad name. >> so cookie monster alive. >> reporter: forget cookies, the
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president likes his own name in his mouth. >> donald trump, donald trump. donald trump. >> cookie monster. >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> stay on point, donald, stay on point. >> thank you for joining us, anderson's next. we're live from washington tonight and we begin with the house vote on health care. >> reporter: if you just think 24 hours ago, republicans in the white house have run into a brick wall on the progress they had been making we'll call this third iteration of in their effort to repeal and replace. what changed, an $8 billion amendment, adding to the $130 billion already in this bill, that $8 billion
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