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ration of the repeal and replace. what changed? an $8 billion amendment sending $8 billion into the $130 billion that already existed in the bill. that $8 billion is designed to try to assuage the very real concerns that we have heard repeatedly from the republican members about how this bill and these changes would change the existing and pre-existing c conditions inside of obamacare. did it do the trick? this is what the house majority leader kevin mccarthy said a short while ago. >> we are going to pass it. we are going to pass it. be optimistic about life. did you read today about the health care pulling out of iowa? we have 94 counties out of 99 that do not have health care, and that is why we have to make sure that this passes to save the people from obamacare that continues to collapse and they don't have health care. >> do you have enough votes? >> we will pass this bill. >> i feel great about it.

>> optimistic about life. that is the leader from the majority leader right now, and over the course of the day, a anderson, a full-on, full-court press and the president has been there, and president trump working the phone, and leaders grabbinging the individual members one by one by one and they are igt on tare right toon it raises question of whether they are there, and as we know, they are close enough to feel that they can have the house floor vote, and the leaders have made it clear they won't put anything on the floor that they don't know will pass, and they will get a real sttest on that tomorrow. >> what time would it happen? it is likely to be early tomorrow. thinking back a couple of weeks ago when we went through the process the first time around they had a lengthy floor debate on the bill they had to the eventually pull from the floor, and so that time has been counted which means they can move quickly. they are starting the house rules committee to set it up and

a meeting of the entire republican conference behind closed doors tomorrow and then move on this. remember, anderson, the house republicans are going, and the entire house is going on recess tomorrow afternoon and they want to get done quickly, and they feel like they are close enough right now to have the vote and they don't want it to linger out there, and expect it to move early, and expect it quickly and the gop leaders in the house and the senate have their way, expect it over to the senate early tomorrow afternoon. >> just before we toent air, the fate of the house bill was in flux, and the white house press secretary sean spicer was asked if it is a now or never moment for the bill, and this is the answer. >> i don't want to put it there. i mean, the president has made it clear before that he is not trying to set a date certain. obviously, that is up to the speaker, and the house le leadership to determine when that time is appropriate, but as you have seen, we continue to move closer and closer to that time. and the number of members who are supporting it continues to grow further and further, and that is a promising sign. >> and hours later, now

republican leaders are saying they are ready for the vote, and jim acosta is at the white house and he joins us now, and we have heard from phil that leader mccarthy says they have the votes. what are you hearing? >> yes, the white house is optimistic about tomorrow, and one official said they are feeling good and another official is describing it a as positive development, but i talked to a key source who has been close to the process all along and said in these words, we are having a vote, but we are not saying that we have the votes, and that is a key republican source close to the source saying no guarantees at that point that it will pass tomorrow, but at the same time they feel like they have crossed a little by of the milestone in getting some of the nervous republicans comfortable with the language when it comes to pre-existing conditions in the bill. and it is something that we have pressed the white house press secretary sean spicer on, and under obamacare, people with

pre-existing conditions, they are covered, but under trump care, it is a little more complicated because you can goer for waivers and get protections for the people with pre-existing condition, and this is what sean spicer had to say when we pressed him earlier today. >> why change the pre-existing conditions -- >> look, we are strengthen iing we have done everything to strengthen it and -- >> and the governor can say here is my -- >> jim, sure. here is the point that is be getting lost. if you obamacare right now, in case after case, you are losing it. so, if you have a pre-existing condition and have a card that says obamacare and nobody will see you and you cant not afford it, you don't have coverage. >> why not fix that? >> we are. we are guaranteeing and literally -- >> and why not just keep it -- >> the president has made it very clear that pre-existing conditions are covered in the bill under every scenario, and i don't know how much clearer we

can state it. >> if you have a pre-existing condition under trumpcare, you will be fine? >> yes. >> and so you heard it there, if this is the law of the land, people with pre-existing conditions will be fine, and mark that video for later use, and for the same time, anderson, the democrats are sensing that it is a problem for the republicans if they get this through to the house and it is a lengthy process getting it through the senate that means that the summer recess is coming and a lot of the rowdy town halls facing the lawmakers when they are going back to the districts, anderson. >> thank you. and a lot to to discuss with the panel we have this evening. dana, would the republicans be bringing it to the vote if they didn't have the vote? >> they would not bring it to the vote unless they felt that they would get there, but going into the meeting today that they had where they emerged and said that they would take a vote, they felt that certainly this big meeting at the white house today where the president, look, give him credit, sat down and

turned things around. and helped, obviously, he didn't come up with the legislative text to do this, but he sat down with fred upton and billy long, two law mamakers who are, you k, good conservatives and really worried about people in their states and not having the coverage and the money to pay for coverage, and for those who have pre-existing condition, and the president said no more negotiating and then he heard them out, and said, okay, can i get you the yes? yes. and it happened. whether or not that will end up with approval tomorrow, we will see, but as i was saying going into the meet iing tonight, i w told that there were a handful at least of republicans who were saying to the leadership, look, we don't want to vote yes, but if you are really needing us, we will, and this is why they feel comfortable. >> and how much could change between now and tomorrow? >> well, quite a bit can change, but they are getting this close, and it is becoming much more politically difficult for one or

two or three people to hold up this vote. wunts they are this close, it is much easier to get them over the finish line, and two things happened today that are going to be help to clarify the political situation that the republicans faced going into next year. you had two insurers pull out in states in iowa and in virginia. ma making it pretty clear that the climate of uncertainty is huge problem. and that the governing party would ultimately be blamed for doing nothing. >> and gloria, you heard from prieb priebus? >> yes, i reached tout the white house chief of staff reince priebus, and he said that the president has been working very hard as dana pointed out. you don't bring up a vote unless you think that you can win it, and they have been embarrassed ad couple of time, and a lot hangs on it, and the entire presidential ledge sgislative a going forward and he would like a win and this is important to paul ryan, the speaker of the house, and so, you know, they

know the stakes here. and they know the difficulties here, because they are asking people to vote on something without actually getting an estimate of how much it costs. >> none. >> which is unheard of. there is no legislative text, but saying be with us, so this is really a test. >> or what the real impact is going to be. >> and right. i don't know if they are using the carrots or the sticks or both, and i'm not sure what they are doing, and we don't know the impact, but this president needs a win, and they are doing everything they can to get it. >> and $8 billion over five years for the coverage of people with pre-existing condition, and that enough? jenn? >> well, it is a drop in the bucket, and there are over 100 million people with pre-existing condition, and if you are doing the math, it is 0.1% of people who would be helped. $8 billion sounds like a lot, but it is a shiny ball that people are using as an excuse. they are making the political argument the get enough votes and it may work, and the republicans are frankly better

at doing that than democrats, but there are democrats who are going to be running against the republicans, and licking their chops for seeing who is going to be voting for this bill, because they are going to start running against them starting this recess. >> and jason, the stakes not higher for the republicans and this president? >> yes, and this is one of the biggest reasons for this to get over the finish line is the work of the president and vice president pence's work. he was up on the capitol hill and impressive to get some arm twistinging to get the folks over the finish line, but the reality is that the republicans have to act on it and not only as abby mentioned the number of health care providers are pulling out, but by next month, all of the carriers in the country have to announce whether they are staying in or out, and then in october, we will find out what the premium increases are going to be looking like, and obamacare in the current construct is collapsing on itself, and they are right, they have to take action on this. >> and that is an assertion that is made that is debatable to

what extent it is collapsinging. a lot of problems, but as i am going around the country and talking to the people in the health care business in the various streams, there are successes and failures and this is something that is interesting to me, anderson, because over the weekend the president got into trouble saying, oh, no, the pre-existing condition, and it is going to be in there but it was not, and it exposed something, this is a very conservative approach to how government ought to interfere in the health kcare system. the obamacare approach was big government, and big entitlement, and this is a more conservative approach, and the president is more moderate and pragmatic on the issue and i'm not sure that in the end he is happy with the ideological approach on health care if it is inadequate with the regard to the con ser serva approach. >> he is happy with a "w." >> yes, now doubt. >> and we have to take a break and the white house loves a

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so i get immediate relief from my foot pain. my knee pain. find a machine at drscholls.com. welcome back. live from washington tonight and the breaking news that the house leader s has have enough suppor pass the latest version of the gop health care. they have been scrambling with the white house the lock down 216 votes they need. this is again what the house majority leader kevin mckcarthy said a short time ago. >> we are going to pass it. we are going to pass it. be optimistic about life. and in fact, today, did you all read the story of the health care pulling out of iowa? we have 94 counties out of 99 that do not have health care, and that is why we have to make sure that this passes to make sure that the people have obamacare will have now no health kcare. >> we will pass this bill. >> i feel great about it. >> back now with the panel.

and kirsten, what about that from speaker mccarthy? >> this is one of the most complex systems in the country, and they are trying to come up with something in the matter of a month or so, and the obama administration spent 14 month, and held multiple scorings, and multiple cbo scorings and they said that it was crammed down the throats of the american people, and moving too fast, so we have to step back to find out how fast they are moving with this and what is actually in the bill. taking the $8 billion that jen is talk about not covering the pre-existing condition, and where does that number come from? nobody knows, and it expires after five year, and what happens after five year, and there are a lot of serious questions to the bill that we don't know, and to leave it to the states to decide on the essential benefits, and there things like mental health

coverage that people could lose, and the $8 billion incentivizes the states who were not going to be setting up the high risk pools to decide to set them up to get money, and all sorts of the very seriously problematic things with the bill, and there is reporting done today where the people have come to talk to the members of the congress about the bill, and they don't know anything. they don't know what is in the bill >> and the conservative think tanks have estimated how much you need for the high risk pools and the estimates were $15 to $20 billion and not o$8 billion, and if you want to cost it out over a number of years, and will it remain? >> this is obviously the first step. >> exactly. >> and for the viewers to explain, this is then obviously going to go to the senate. >> yes, and they in the house, the republicans and at the white house, they just want to break the logjam somehow. the first step is getting it through the house. you are totally right, it would be shocking if there were answers from most of these

members who are going vote yes as to whether they know what this is going to do, first and foremost, because we don't have the bill or the score. you are totally right. but i think that is policy, which matters, but they are also thinking politically as you know which is to get this done, and get it over to the senate where the $8 billion is going to be in the rear view mirer error of remembering. >> and the support of the senate -- >> well, i don't think so. >> they won't need any? >> well, right now, the democrats are lock step in saying that they won't come close to anything that repeals obamacare, even if it is replacing it -- >> that what the republicans did, and one of the biggest mistakes of obamacare was passing it on the party line vote and not getting the real buy-in when it came to the implementation and the owner snip the country. there was an unknown about obamacare here in implementation, and here they are move more precipitously, and you don't know the impact of the law on the system for years.

>> they can't get a party vote, and support within the republican party, and much less the democrats and this is the problem now, and by the way, it is more of a problem, i think in the senator particularly when people are focusing on the medicaid expansion part of this, which is that you are going to roll back that expansion and you want to talk about loss of coverage that people are going to begin to feel in their states or think about when there is a little bit more time to think about it. >> it is a different ball game in the senate, and the white house and the house, they want to get it moving. i talked to a source at the white house yesterday who said that expectation is that it will take a long time for things to settle for them to digest, and i'm not saying to totally start over, but you won't see something that is looking much like what you saw -- >> and challenging that it has been for the white house and the house, for senate, this is -- >> yes, this is kid's stuff compared to that. >> but the president broke the logjam and you have to give him the due, because he got into the process and forced it in a way

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welcome back. tomorrow's scheduled house vote on the health care vote is big news from here in washington and the other big story is the fbi director's james comey's digestive system and testifying at a senate hearing todayment and comey said that the idea that he affected the election made him mildly nauseous, but he still believes that he made the right decision to reveal that the fbi was looking at more of hillary clinton's e-mails. >> today, anderson, james comey wanted to get a lot off of his chest about how he handled the two high profile probes regarding hillary clinton and the trump campaign in the election and he said that if he had the to do it all over again,

he would make the exact same decision decisions. >> reporter: tonight, the fbi director james comey in the hot seat before the senate judiciary committee telling law maik maket he has no regret to the letter to congress and announcing in the election that the hillary clinton e-mail probe was reopened even if it affected the election. >> and it made me mildly nauseous, but everybody who disagrees with me has to go back to october 28th, and stare at this and tell me what you would do? speak or conceal? i could be wrong, but we honestly made a decision between those two choices that in hindsight and one of the world's most painful experiences, i would make the decision and i would not conceal that on october 28th from the kopg. >> was there any conflict among your staff, people saying, do it? don't do it? as has bn een reported?

>> no. it was a great debate. i have a fabulous staff at all levels and one of my junior lawyers said, should you consider that what you are about to do is may help elect donald trump president, and i said, thank you for raising that. not for a moment, because down that path lies the death of the fbi's independent institution in america. i can't consider for a second whose political fortunes will be affected in what way, and we have to ask ourselves what is the right thing to do and then do that thing. >> reporter: and comey made the stunning admission that he lacked confidence in the justice department's leadership after then attorney general loretta lynch met with president bill clinton on the tarmac and he said that he was not recommending charges. >> the department leadership could not credibly complete the investigation and decline prosecution without grievous damage to the american people's confidence in the justice system. that is a hard call for me to make, to call the attorney general that morning to say, i

will have a press conference and i won't say what i have to say and i told her that i hope some day, you will understand that. i was not loing this. i knew it would be disastrous for me personally, but it is the best way to protect the institutions that we care so much about. >> and democrats fired back asking him why he did not acknowledge the ongoing probe of the elections with the trump associate after the election. >> if there had been renewed interest? the investigations of both cam tains, the impact would have been different, do you believe? >> no. i have thought a lot about this and my opinion is that -- we have to separate two things. it is important to call out what the russians were trying to do with the election, and i offered in august myself to be a voice for that in a public piece calling it out, and the obama administration did not take advantage in august, but they did in october, and it is important to call out. >> reporter: and revelations about how disgraced former

congressman anthony weiner ended up with thousands of clinton's e-mails on his personal computer. >> was there classified information on former congressman weiner's computer? >> yes. >> who sent it to him? >> his then spouse houma abdimin. >> did he read that classified material? >> his role was to print it out as a matter of convenience. >> if he did read them, would he have commited a crime? >> potentially. >> would his spouse have commited a crime? >> again, potentially, and it depends upon a number of things. >> is there an investigation with respect to the two of them? >> there was and we have completed it. >> why did you conclude that neither of them commited a crime? >> because with respect to ms.

abmin in particular, she did not have a sense of what she was doing was in violation of the law. >> and you have new information about next week's testimony? >> yes, there is a hearing on russia's interference with the election and sally yates, the former acting attorney general and james clapper who has run dni and we have learned that susan rice, former national security adviser of president obama decline and so she is not going to be there and a letter obtained exclusively from cnn says that she was informed by senator sheldon white house that he did not agree to chairman lindsey graham's invitation for her to testify and not pertinent to the topic. and according to the source, she considered this invitation as a diversion their play, and that it was to distract information

from the investigation into rush sharks and as you know that rice had been accused by the president of unmasking the ide tis of trump officials, and speaking of foreign officials, but lawmakers on both sides of the aisle said they did not see anything unusual or illegal about what rice did. >> okay. lots to talk about with our panel. paul begala, did what drirector comey say about the rational? >> yeah, no problem. no biggie. >> i knew you would say that. >> i want him to take me back to the room october 28th and two door, one marked speak and one marked conceal. one marked comey and one country. and he put himself ahead. he had the laptop, and he had the evidence, and it was not going anywhere and put it on a safe, and on ice, and we will check it out, and we don't have to have a search warrant yet.

>> he said that it would have destroyed the fbi, and if people destroyed it -- >> the fbi is full. it was a kid they were heroes and still heroes to me, and i worked for them in the white house, and a this is men and women who put their country ahead of their lives and this guy is so ob sesed with the reputation that he decided to involve himself in a election 11 days out and contradicting decades of policy and it had an effect on that election and sorry that it upset the stomach. >> jason? >> look, the big news heading into that week is the fact that the obamacare premium hikes coming up and the people who were losing the coverage and this is the catalyst that is going that weekend, and so that friday morning when we got the internal polling numbers back and i remember running down into the deputy campaign manager's numbers, did you see them in new mexico and michigan and we are surging and get the boss, and now president, to the states to campaigning and it is not until later that all of this news

broke, and the numbers were moving. >> and would they have broke that there was a campaign of trump possibly colluding with the russians. >> the original sin in all of this is that jim comey, the man who stood up as number two in the justice department and the bush administration which is big justice to not interfere with the justice department procedures threw him overboard when he came in to say, we are not charging hillary clinton and no reasonable person would charge her. he got and wadeded into the politics then, and why? because he knew that there were so many agents who wanted to charge, and so many agents who were so mad about how they handled then general petraeus, and mad they were not going after hillary clinton, and he was dealing with the internal politics of the people who disliked hillary so much, and later dealing with the politics of capitol hill and the house republicans, and the problem is that there are procedures if you

don't talk or don't talk, because once you start, you can't stop, and then you lose your independence. >> do you agree with that? >> yes. he should have shut up. pros ecutors speak through indictments and he not only cleared hillary in julie, but then trashed her a private citizen running for president, and he had a negative campaign on her for 90 minute, and insane. he should have shut up, and this is in contradiction with the guidelines, and then did not check with justice. >> if he came out to say that the trump campaign is under investigation or the contacts with russia, and you cannot deny it had an impact. >> but it is a massive difference because of illegal home server and five people who are -- >> no reasonable prosecutor would have touched that. >> but also today, he said criminal intent when he was talking about it, and it is not that there was a crime committed but -- >> and you think that people would not have heard trump campaign possible contacts with

russians and thought -- >> well, the big news today is that there is still not one shred of evidence that there is some coordination between the campaign and some foreign -- >> that is an indication. and that is not what the hearing is about. >> but this saul wrapped into this. and it is all -- sgland the investigation is ongoing. >> right. >> and but, this is why it is all going on today. this, and that is the fundamental thing to try to supposedly get to the bottom of this, and in eight months later, they still haven't put anything forward. >> and with comey, what is stunning is that what we heard about the attorney general and how we heard about her meeting with bill clinton and the airplane that day. >> that he did not have confidence. >> i believe and can i finish, that i believe -- >> as should he -- >> and one of the reasons that i believe that he bent owent out talk about hillary clinton that day and called her reckless is

because he felt that he had the reputation of the justice department, and the fbi on his shoulders. and i think that he still sounds that way. >> and this is kill iing me. the fbi director comes across that he is is a moral voice for america, and he is not. he runs the fbi and they determine whether we walk across pennsylvania avenue and suggest ed to the department of justice based on the investigation whether or not somebody commited a crime. he made one mistake that is speaking in july to talk about this. and he should not have done. this he made a second mistake in july, his personal opinion about hillary clinton and why do i care? not your job. you are not the high school principal and he kept talking about october 28th. wrong date. he set up october 28th, because he closed the investigation publicly and then rightly said, now that i screwed it up, i have to double down. >> and he was worried, and i know for a fact that he was worried about the spirit, and the esprit de corps of the

morale in the fbi that all of the agents mad and wanted hillary clinton charged would not believe in him or congress and that is why he did all of the extra stuff. he should have not said that no reasonable person would not have prosecuted her, and he should not have pleased you or trashed her either. >> and he should have shut the hell up and done his job. >> we have tike a quick break. it's your paradise perfected with behr premium plus paint. the best you can buy starting under $25. only at the home depot. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months.

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as we started to discuss before the break, the fbi director james comey said that he would do it again, testifying before the senate judiciary committee he said that the fbi was looking into more e-mails of the clinton investigation 11 days before the election. >> it makes me mildly nauseous that we had any affect on the election, but honestly, any i would not make the same decision, and anybody who disagrees, you would have to go back to october 28th, and would you speak or cop seal? i could be wrong, but we made a decision between these two choices and that even in hindsight, and this has been one of the most painful decisions,

and i would make the same decision. >> he said, abby, mild nausea, and i don't know what it takes to make him really nausea, but i want whatever makes him really nauseous. >> he seems to have been worked up about this and we were talking about the long history of the gladiator for justice and that is what he has fashioned his decision into it, and he has had the to become comfortable with it, and he has made himself the president, because on the other hand, what he laid out specif specifically saying that i think they did the right thing or what is the right thing to do is what he is supposed to do is not actually the test that he faces as the fbi director. if your job is to not sway the election in one way or another, and in some ways, you have to kind of pay attention is something that i am going to do affect things for someone or against someone or even vice versa. he had no way to know what the outcome was, but he had to have

known that it had some impact. >> and you have take into consideration politics. and david, you said that the original press conference was the original sin and that is true for comey, but also remember that the original, original sin was that private serv server. if hillary clinton had not had that private ob sserver and eve paul might have agreed with this, then the ball would not have been roll, and i am not saying that she did not do nothing wrong, but -- >> and both candidates were uninvestigation, and one was not. >> and i agree, but -- >> and paul, comey said that he did say that he would speak about it in august about the russian and president obama would not. >> no, he is coming out of the convention and the most partisan speech that you can give and if you are doing that, and the entire intelligence community in october came out, and by the way, it is the fbi that is the

last in line, and 116 of the 17 intelligence communities said yes, and director combmy said that he wanted to do it months earlier, and that is not fair. if both were under investigation and one clear and one still under investigation, anded he trashes the one under investigation, and violates the procedures and this is what i cannot stress enough. we are a government of laws and not men and women, and in the tough cases that is when the guidelines matter the most, and eric holder, the attorney general had signed an order telling everyone, and every attorney general has done it for 50 years, don't mess with anything near an election, and it is meant to be 60 days, and for decades every attorney general has issued an order like that, and comey violated the orders and it is the tough case s. >> and there is also protections of the individuals in the country, and people associated with this investigation had the fbi leaking interviews done with people who worked for hillary clinton sprayed across the newspapers with the content of

their interview, and any individual going up against the federal government with entity, that is why you need the protection. if you want to see hillary clinton go to the jail, you don't get to decide and the justice department said no, and you can't punish her bad judgment, because it was punished on the polls and ultimately on election day, it was a factor, but those protections matter. >> and it turns out that barack obama seemed to care more about not influencing the election, than james comey which is shocking, because obama made a decision hold off on the release of anything. just, let's, let's be careful about this, and where with trump and russia whereas comey on hillary clinton basically said, okay, i have to do this for myself. really. >> and this is making me mildly nauseous here and let me intervene, because we are

talking about whether somebody should have spoken in august and president obama said no. and two issues, intervention in te l the election and trump participation with that and you cannot speak in august about trump participation in that. >> and the white house is showing a border wall in construction showing that president trump is keeping it a top order, and claiming that he got the funding in the latest bill, but that is not the full story. we sent gary tuck to find the wall construction in question, and tonight, he is keeping them honest ahead.

president trump wants to build a wall on the border with mexico. you might have heard about it. in the recent budget, there wasn't any money for it. there was some for border security but not for the wall itself. that hasn't stopped the white house from showing up with props in the briefing room to try and argue otherwise. press secretary sean spicer showed border fencing under construction and pointed to a fence he said is being replaced by a steel wall. both of them he said are examples of how the president is keeping his pledge about the wall. just yesterday, the budget director also talked about securing the border and used some of the same photos. take a look. >> when you heard about the deal, did you think we could build this? i bet you didn't.

nobody did. is it a replacement for existing wall? yeah, that's fine. is it new wall? no. this is what's out there right now. this is what's going to be put in as a result of this bill. that's better border security. you can call it new wall. you can call it replacement. you can call it maintenance. you can call it whatever you want to. the president's priority was to secure the southern border and that's what this does. we are building this now. there is money in this deal to build serve hundreds of millions of dollars of this to replace this. that's what we got in this deal. that's what the democrats don't want you to know. this stuff is going up now. why? the president wants to make the country more safe. >> keep in mind, that is not the whole story, not even close. we sent gary tuchman to the

border to where they were the photos were taken. here is what he discovered. >> reporter: a after the budget director pointed to the photographs of border wall construction, he was asked where it was. >> i don't know where it's being built. >> reporter: we do. we matched up photographs and discovered the location is in new mexico, which board a small town near mexico. we came here. workers are building a new approved and more secured steel wall. construction workers tell us is the portion of fence where the picture was taken. the opening in the fence in the photo is now closed with that gate. interestingly, the picture was taken from the other side of the fence on the mexican side. the mountains that you see in the background are the mountains here in new mexico. the budget director declared, quote, this stuff is going up now because the president wants to make this country safe. but keeping them honest, this stuff has nothing to do with president trump. daphne griffin works at a restaurant. >> this came from the bush administration. >> reporter: is that common knowledge in this area? >> yeah, absolutely.

>> reporter: president george w. bush signed the secure fence of 2006 in october of that year. since then, he and president obama approved new construction to border walls and fences from texas to california. it's those two responsible for improvements done to this wall. this project began in the summer of 2016, months before donald trump was elected. it's nothing unusual? >> no. it's not unusual to see the wall being fixed. >> reporter: in addition to the frequent trains chugging along the border, one of the first things we noticed was this skimpy chain-link fence separating the countries. which a child on mexican side was climbing. a fence the budget director actually pointed out. >> this doesn't stop drugs and doesn't stop criminals from crossing the border. it doesn't stop hardly anything from crossing the border. >> reporter: sean spicer also noted it. >> if you look at that one in particular, you have got a chain-link fence is what is at our southern border. that's down there now. we are able to go in there and instead of having a chain-link fence replace it with that wall.

>> reporter: keeping them honest again, the chain-link fence has never been a border fence. workers and law enforcement say they can't go on camera, tell us it's part of the construction site put up by the construction workers for safety. to be clear, border wall and border fencing is often getting repaired and replaced. if president trump wants to build a new wall in a place that hasn't had one, he doesn't have the authorization or money to do that. at least yet. what mr. trump does have is the right to improve and repair current walls and fences. the same exact thing presidents before him have had. >> gary joins us now. i just want to go back to one thing. the chain-link fence that the white house keeps saying they are replacing, that is not actually border barrier? that's part of the construction site put up by construction workers? >> reporter: right. a temporary fence. before the temporary fence was there, there was a fairly tall steel wall.

but it got old. there were repairs that had to be done. people got through it, over it. that's why this project to improve the wall started this past summer. this is between 18 and 20 feet tall. to get over it, you need a ladder or you need to shimmy up a pole 16 feet and get to the top where there's a four-foot hunk of metal. then you have to get over that. there's a couple more months to work on in this project. one thing i noticed, which is interesting, when the white house points out this chain-link fence, if they want to prove the point, it's easy to do so. much of the border, there's no fence. much of the border there's knee high barbed wire fence. they didn't have to point out the chain-link fence. i believe it's an honest mistake. >> it's good to find out what the truth is. thanks very much. more ahead in the next hour of 360, including carter page, a former trump campaign adviser. will get his take on james comey's testimony on the russia white house investigation. his name came up a few times. their experience is coveted. their leadership is instinctive. they're experts in things you haven't heard of -

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welcome back. we're live from washington, d.c. tonight on this very busy day in the nation's capital. tonight's russia white house watch, four committees are investigating the meddling in the presidential election. the fbi has an investigation into whether president trump's associate colluded with russia, something comey confirmed today that they are investigating that. comey was asked about carter page.

let's hear the exchange. >> was there a fisa warrant issued? >> i can't answer that here. >> did you consider carter page an act of the campaign? >> same answer. can't answer that here. >> okay, do you standby your testimony that there is an active investigation, counter intelligence investigation regarding trump campaign individuals and the russian government as to whether or not they collaborated? >> to see if there was any coordination between the russian -- >> is that still going on? >> yes. >> nothing has changed? you stand by those statements? >> correct. >> you won't tell me about carter page? >> not here i won't. >> carter page joins me now. the fbi director refused to answer questions about you specifically. have you spoken or been contacted by the fbi? >> you know, anderson, i don't want to talk about any ongoing investigations. it's the same thing i was told when i tried asking lisa monaco about this back in january. i have no comment.

>> you don't want to say whether you have spoken with the fbi? >> let me just say that i've been very cooperative with a lot of individuals in government. and most -- >> i know you have written letters to the senate intelligence committee. the last time we spoke, you denied -- there's been focus on your trip to moscow when you made the speech in the summer of 2016. you've repeatedly denied having any conversations in a lot of interviews about lifting sanctions when you were in moscow. you have denied this many times on this network and others. in an interview in april, you suddenly sound less than definitive. i want to play what you said to george stephanopoulos. >> it sounds like from what you are saying it's possible you may have discussed the easing of sanctions? >> something may have come -- i have no recollection and there's nothing specifically that i would have done that would have given people that impression. >> but you can't say without equivocation that you didn't discuss the easing of sanc