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the end of the trumpcare debate, only the beginning. the bill faces a number of challenges going forward including the senate. tonight, the president is back in new york for the first time since he took office with australian prime minister, malcolm turnbull. what was the president's reaction to the bill passing today? >> reporter: the president obviously was very pleased about what happened. anderson, i think he made a very good point here. this is the first step of a three step process the easiest step and then it goes to the house and there will be changes, an understatement. there will be changes to this bill, key portions that took a lot of republican effort and internal squabbles before shifted to the senate. after that it will have to do to the house where the house will likely eat or take on a proposal a lot of their members are uncomfortable left. there is a lot of work left on this bill. it's important to note, you make
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a really really good point, this is a dramatic shift in the u.s. healthcare system. no question about it. there's been a lot of talk about specific amendments, interesting details and political winners and losers here. it's important go through what this bill will actually do, even if it will be changed, compare it to what current law is. this republican proposal, how it will actually finance things and focus on heavily refundable tax across. this is a shift from what we've seen on obamacare and rely heavily on generous subsidies and a phasing out on the medicare expansion program and conservative shifts republicans wanted a long period of time of that medicare program changing the funding on per capita basis, based on enrollees itself. what we're seeing here is a proposal of a major change that will impact everyday lives in a way we haven't seen in seven,
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eight years. it shifts things more towards a conservative way of thinking and more towards the conservative healthcare they wanted for a long period of time. i can't stress this enough. despite the political squabbles, internal battles back and forth between republicans the last six weeks when it comes to the dramatic changes that occur, they will absolutely affect every individual in this country. this is a very big deal even if it is only the first step. >> it seems like a number of republicans voted for this bill without actually having read the whole bill. i talked to house member congressman garrett. he said he hadn't read it, fully read it, his staff hasn't even briefed on it. of people you talk to house republicans, how do they feel about voting on it without reading on it and without having a cbo score. they walked themselves into a major political liability without getting that score. they had a score that had only bad news for them. $24 million over the course of
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10 years would lose insurance based on the proposal. myself and my colleagues spent the day asking members, is this a huge concern you don't know what these new additions to this proposal will actually do? take a listen. >> how do you explain to constituents the fact republicans will have voted on this bill without a full cbo score, we only have a score on the original bill? >> the three amendments that are new aren't going to change dramatically that cbo score, so the basic cbo score is going to still be in the ballpark. everything else we said either expands coverage, takes care of preexisting conditions or lowers premiums, every amendment added is a good move. >> how do you know this is going to be right given there is no cbo analysis to say how many people lose coverage and the impact this would have on the economy? >> i know we're doing the right thing. >> reporter: but how? >> i know.
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>> that's putting a lot of faith without numbers to back it up. republicans don't believe the models accurately reflect what a conservative view on healthcare would actually put to the table. it underscores the point both on the politics of this, there will be numerous attacks how this process went through, their willingness to vote on this without the score. it underscores another simple point, the speaker made clear when they have the votes they would vote no matter what was going on and was lacking process time. they didn't want this to linger out there, a possibility an updated cbo score would only update more problems them. they put it on the floor and turns out in terms of moving this to the next step to the senate was an effective play, anderson. >> phil, thanks very much. the president is back in new york for the first time since he took office. he is at the "intrepid" museum
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with australian's prime minister and we will play you sound with the prime minister. jeff is standing by live for us in new york. explain what the night holds for the president. >> reporter: the president is meeting here with the prime minister of australia. it was an abbreviated meeting and supposed to meet with him earlier in the day and they are having their meeting here, celebrating the 75th anniversary of the battle of the coral sea and talking about other threats happening now. the president is still so focused what happened earlier in the day in washington he delayed his trip by a couple hours because he was taking a victory lap in this rose garden. >> we are just getting some sound with president trump and australian prime minister malcolm turnbull. >> congratulations on your vote
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today. >> thank you velsry much. it was great. big day. >> every vote counts. >> we got it. we had a couple left over if we wanted them but we didn't need them. it was a very big day. appreciate your waiting. >> i know the feeling. we have challenges with our parliament, too. we have only 29 seats in a senate of 76. >> oh. >> we need a lot of work to get legislation passed. >> that means you're doing a good job. >> when you get it passed, you are. >> it's great to be with you. >> we get along great. always have. how important is the relationship with australia? >> i love australia. we have a fantastic relationship but i love australia, always have. greg norman is here today, a friend of ours. we have a lot of friends here
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tonight. >> a lot of friend in common. >> yeah. sn>> and the refuge -- behind y? >> that's all worked out. we had a good telephone call. >> we had a great call. >> you exaggerated that call. we had a great call. we're not babies but we had a great call. >> young at heart. >> we had a very very good call. a little bit of fake news as the expression goes. >> that's exactly right. >> when can we expect you to be in australia, mr. trump? >> that will happen. one of the great great places most beautiful places on effo-- earth and i will be there. i will be speaking about the battle of the coral sea tonight. that was some battle. that was a very important battle for both of us. >> it was. >> we did it together.
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>> it was. it saved australia. it was the turning point in the war. >> those are some of the comments between the president and australia's prime minister. >> he has clearly been focusing on healthcare the last several days and obviously even tonight, one of the reasons he was late tonight. he said it will undergo some changes in the senate. that's an understatement. >> reporter: that's a major understatement. the reality is the senate will basically start fresh. this house bill will be the underlying measure they work off of but the senate will reexamine all of this, which means this is back to the drawing board essentially here. one thing interesting to watch going forward, what did the president learn about this process? senior administration officials
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explained to me in the last couple of hours they believe the president has said he will have a more hands-on approach here. we'll see if that works. sometimes that was successful in the house process, sometimes it was not. the reality is this was just the very beginning of this. the president believes it certainly gives him a sense of energy. you could see the satisfaction and confidence he has. but again, even republicans in the senate never mind the democrats are not looking very favorably on this at this point, anderson. the goal remains for republicans to get this done, for the 2018 midterm election campaign rides on this, depends on it. he made promises in the rose garden premiums wouldn't go up. we'll see if that actually happens. >> you can hear dem straytors yelling. jeff. thanks. joining me tonight to talk about it. a huge win for the white house.
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unusual they actually had a rose garden celebration when it's really only passed the house, nevertheless, it was a good day for the white house. >> those are optics i don't remember seeing ever when there's just a first step in a very long process. they completely needed a win. i was talking to a republican strategist very focused on keeping the house not losing the house, the big challenge for them politically now is that the democratic base is so riled up, they're so on fire about this and so many other things, namely the president of the united states, that any chance that they have to try to rally their conservative base and remind them in a very public image symbolic way in the rose garden they will take. that's the main reason why they did this today. it is a very very long way to go. the senate is basically they're going to probably use the bones
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of this bill for procedural reasons, they're probably going to start largely from scratch because they have a wide spectrum, smaller numbers within the republican party and they will try to make a deal amongst themselves. >> gloria, the president said today he's so confident it will get through the senate and maybe a few minor changes. >> i have news for him. it's complicated. it will be very difficult. i've never seen anybody spike a football at halftime. i'm not a sports fan. i don't think that -- have you seen that? >> in baseball all the time. >> i have not. the president is going to say we will get it through what they did today was to motivate people. in the senate, there are the same problems as there were in the house. you have a lot of moderates who already said they don't like this bill. you have people like ted cruz. it will be kind of interesting here. he is someone who has played
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footsy with the house conservatives a lot. let's see how he behaves on this bill. let's see what happens when these people go home and start getting asked questions about just what's in this bill as congressman collins admitted to wolf blitzer earlier, he hadn't read it. >> congressman garrett same thing. >> hadn't read it. no hearings, no congressional budget office score and no text so there wasn't much to read. >> for the senate obviously preexisting conditions are the big sticking points. >> yes. you will have senators who have fairly poor folks at home. nevada where dean heller is on the ballot next year, parts of appalachia or gop senators who will be uneasy about passing any bill that could harm folks on medicaid. >> a lot of states voted for donald trump. >> overwhelmingly red states, deep red states but more down
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scale white parts of america. by the way, the senate moves slowly. this is going to be a real challenge for the president who now has this first victory under his belt trying to be patient with the gal lay shall pace of the senate. i asked one senator when i came here tonight, what's the fastest you can move any kind of bill out of the senate? the senate said, unclear. by contrast i asked a trump starve that same question, they said probably by june, as in next month. we'll see. >> they don't control the legislation calendar. >> 11 states most likely to be affected by preexisting conditions all voted for donald trump and 35% have preexisting conditions. >> 50% of americans have preexisting conditions. this is a very serious issues. a lot of republicans saying it doesn't really affect people because it's saying the states can get a waiver. reality is a lot of states get a waiver. there were about 35 states
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before who had these high risk pools before obamacare. this was something they were doing. can i just say, not to be the skunk at the picnic, this feels a little bit like giving donald trump a participation trophy. this would be like when cap and trade passed the house, having a rose garden signing ceremony. that's not -- it died in the senate. this bill is a very flawed bill. i don't think there will be a lot of things in it the senate is simply not going to go for and feels like paul ryan wanted it off his desk and over to the senate. if it dies there it's on the senate. it's not necessarily a good bill. the fact a lot of these members of congress don't even know what's in it speaks to that. >> if it dies there it would be paul ryan who loses his speakership next year because the senate is not really in play and the house is. >> could he also say we did what we could do and we put all the things in it our people want even though a lot of it will probably violate the bird rule.
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at least we sent it over there and the senate let it die. >> i had a republican consultant say to us if we hasn't passed this today, we would lose control of the house period. >> i notice you're caring one of the many donald trump books you like to tout. >> this is called "how turned my biggest challenges into my biggest success." >> who did he wright it weather? >> with marilyn macgyver, whom i know. >> should we take a break? >> the spine hasn't been broken but we'll take a short look. >> bernie sanders saying republicans voted to throw constituents off of insurance, they should be ashamed. coming up.
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companies and prescription drug makers. it keeps in tact the obamacare policy kids can stay on the parents' plans until age 26. as for losers, low-income families shifting the medicare and insurers could charge older people five times as much as younger people hiking premiums in 50 and 60s and weakens the obamacare protections for people with preexisting conditions and plans that don't include services mandated under obamacare everything from maternity to mental health. what about the preexisting thing? how do you justify the fine print? >> as i understand it that was congressman upton's demand. not so, you're shaking your head at me? >> that was just the money. >> how will you pay for it otherwise? the thing we need to understand here, let's be candid, insurance is about -- if there's 1,000
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people out there, you have 200 or so that may have a problem and you're balancing the system that way. when you're saying preexisting conditions, i'm for it, that's not insurance, that's an entitlement. therein lies the argument and it still has to be paid for. i understand the politics of it and i think they're sensitive to it and they will try to get it done. >> it seems like a major issue. sorry. >> i want to say is there an amendment in the bill that saying nothing in the act shall be construed limiting health insurers to limit access to people with preexisting conditions. 90% of people are enrolled through their employer or medicare or medicaid or children's healthcare. they won't be affected by this. >> that's not necessarily true. >> your base policies are protected. >> that's very misleading. >> because that's the law? >> that's what was in this bill.
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>> that's not what's was going to happen. >> it's in the bill. >> congressman, practically speaking you will have states who will opt out or not cover these or raise the prices so high, so if something is so expensive you can't afford it it doesn't matter what you call it, that's not access. >> i want to comment on this. the reason why jeffrey was stumbling through this is the reason why republicans will have trouble in the next few weeks. when you look into this bill and see what they have is preexisting conditions now, victims of rape, postpartum disease, you talk about all these things. postpartum -- postpartum illness, depression, excuse me, i'm struggling over here. you're starting to see the facts republicans have to go back to their district and explain this to their districts and it's going to be very very difficult. >> if you're a representative from iowa where one of the last
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insurance companies is about to pull out and leave tens of thousands of iowans without health insurance, that's not a problem to explain? >> i think this is a favorite republican talking point. the deadline is not until the end of the month for insurers in iowa. let's settle that. the second issue is states now will have the option to opt out of providing essential benefits. if you are a state and you're trying to save money you're going to probably opt out. a lot of them will. what obamacare did was it raised the standard so it made it so that health insurance companies had to cover maternity benefits, they had to covers a ma and a c-section. what this does it takes away that standard and leaves it out to the market and hopes for the best. that's a difference how democrats and republicans view hock healthcare. >> i'm concerned you don't trust your governors any better than that. i feel very good about my state's ability to run medicare
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better than this. i'm from historic savannah, i leave right down the street from him. any time we change a light bulb we talk about how great the last one was. some places had premiums as high as 100%. arizona, key swing state, 117%. the limitations are real. the choices are real. >> it only affected 3% of the public. >> for the average person. >> as the premiums went up so did the subsidies, that's a misnomer. i don't trust my governors. in south carolina perfect example, we didn't expand medicaid 240,000 people went without coverage, just went without coverage. people literally died. in states poor, rural states, appalachia, these states that voted for donald trump why would we all of a sudden assume they will have the resources to cover individuals with preexisting conditions. >> one of the reasons the aetna for example withdrew in iowa is
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because of the uncertainty in the marketplace and cost of high risk pools. what is to say it will become more certain suddenly when you have states being able to decide -- when you want to put it back to the states what makes you think suddenly insurers will opt in? what we do do in this bill, what is done in this bill insurers get more money, they do get more money. what happens to the people supposed to be insured? >> there are huge tax credits in here that run from $2,000 to 14,000 as family. there's health savings account deductions as high as $6500. i don't understand when this country got so afraid of market and market forces. more competitors getting into the market. >> when they haves s asthma and
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will be more expensive or cancer. >> jack, this is very good if you're healthy, let's be honest about it. >> or young. >> the way they are cutting costs in this is basically through not covering preexisting conditions, doing this $8 billion a pit tans, not going to come close to covering it. they're basically saying we will take care of people healthy and probably see your premiums go down, if you're sick and have a child who has diabetes and it costs $500 to get insulin for them. >> if you're insured now you cannot be cancelled because of preexisting illnesses. that is in this bill. kind of like somebody walking down the street or they're on the grass, what if a car hits me. we're talking about hypothetical situations absolutely addressed in this bill. >> everything here is
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hypothetical by its nature. it's insurance. i had one of your former colleagues, a current member, who voted yes, is a moderate admit to me the $8 billion is symbolism, help maybe get a couple people over the line because it seemed to address a concern about not just the preexisting condition. wait wait also how you pay for it. this person said he voted yes because of the concern that the news headlines will come out and it's all about premiums hiking and he's going to go home and say i didn't vote for anything -- >> i have to take a break and talk to bernie sanders about the gop bill in the senate and whether he plans to make it more bipartisan, next. the friends, the independence. and since we planned for it, that student debt is the one experience, i'm glad she'll miss
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expected to go to a whole new level. senator sanders just joined us now. earlier you tweeted republicans just voted to let thousands of americans who will die so billionaires get tax breaks. is that what you think? >> exactly. if the bill passed today and it became law thousands of americans would die because they would no longer have access to healthcare. it is wrong to talk about what happened in the house a healthcare bill. it provided $200 billion in a tax break to 1% when we have massive inequality today. what kind of healthcare bill are we talking about when you throw 24 million people off of health insurance, substantially raise premiums for older workers,
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de-fund planned parenthood. republicans talk about choice, everybody should have a choice. 2.5 million women choose planned parenthood. that will no longer be the case and they cut medicaid by $800 billion. >> when the president said premiums will go down, deductibles will go down, you're saying that's just not true. >> with all due respect to president trump, i think most americans don't believe what he says very very much. one of the interesting things he said today sitting next to the australian prime minister, he said something to the effect your system is better than our system. well, mr. president, you're right. in australia and every other major country on earth they guarantee healthcare to all people. they don't throw 24 million people off of health insurance. maybe when we get to the senate we should start off with looking at the australian healthcare system or canadian healthcare system which guarantees healthcare to all people at a much lower cost per capita than
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we do. >> do you believe the president is deliberately misleading or doesn't understand or simply misinformed? >> anderson, think about -- it's unfortunate you have to ask that question, is he lying or does he not know what he's talking about? i don't know the answer to that. it's pretty pathetic whatever it may be. the case is what he is saying is inaccurate and not truthful. >> just yesterday there was an announcement of pulling out of virginia's market and iowa on the verge of collapse. republicans are saying why shouldn't we be taking action to stop things like that from happening? >> first of all, one of the things happening, this will be a republican tactic, mark my words on this, not just on healthcare but social security as well, what they are doing is very consciously ab saging the
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affordable care act. does it have problems? you bet it does. dibbles too high, premiums too high, co-payment's too high. it has problems. we should address those serious problems. what they are doing is trying to sabotage it right now for example not enforce the individual mandate. many billions of dollars are now coming into the system and rates going up. they say it's a terrible situation, rates going up. they will do the same thing for social security, after you give huge tax breaks to the hundreds of billions of dollars to the very rich they will say the deficit is going up, we have to cut social security, the only way to deal with the deficit, that's their tactic. >> your colleague, lindsey graham said i believe we can work together in a bipartisan manner. would you work with republicans like senator graham in a bill in the senate or is this something you don't want any part of? >> no.
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of course. the goal is how do we guarantee healthcare to all people without spending, as we do today, almost twice as much per capita? that's the goal, how do we have a costs if healthcare system where we put our emphasis on disease prevention to guarantee healthcare for all americans. i'm prepared to work with lindsey graham and anybody else towards that goal. the function of healthcare right now to be honest is for insurance companies to make very large profits and drug companies to charge us the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. i noticed despite all of presume's rhetoric about lowering prescription drug costs, they don't have any language in there. we could save many billions of dollars if we had the guts to take on the pharmaceutical company esand pay the same price for drugs as people around the world. this the president was so confident, his term, this bill will get through the senate,
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minor changes but confident. >> let me break -- anderson, let me break the bad news to the president. mr. president, i'm sorry to disappoint you, this bill in its current form is not getting through the senate. no way. no way. >> how much does it need to change? how major changes are we talking about? i spoke to senator mccain today. >> you take this bill and you -- we don't want to clog up toilets or anything but you just toss it into a garbage can and you start again. this bill is a disaster and embarrassment. i want to say to the people that voted for trump and i know many decent who believed what he said. he said we will provide healthcare to everybody and it's going to be less expensive. providing healthcare to everybody is not throwing 24 million people off of health insurance.
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this, in my view, this healthcare view is an embarrassment. it's an insult to the american people and in the senate we will start from zero and do something that will work for ordinary americans. >> how important is it for you to get a cbo score from the congressional budget office? >> obviously it's enormously -- anderson, one of the many outrages we saw today is when you are dealing with legislation that impacts one-seventh of the united states economy, this is huge, don't you think maybe there might have been a hearing or two to discuss the implications of this legislation? these guys put it something in a few weeks time, zero hearings, they didn't hear from the american medical association who oppose this legislation, didn't hear from the hospitals that oppose this legislation or hear from the aarp, largest senior
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group in america because it would be a disaster for older workers. you don't deal with one seventh of the economy without one hearing. it is an embarrassment. we will start from zero in the senate and improve it on obamacare and hopefully guarantee healthcare to all of our people and do it in a more cost effective way. senator sanders, thank you. >> thank you. >> after failing to defeat the gop, democrats broke out in song taunting their republican counterparts over what it may cost them in the election. in a moment, also last night, "keeping them honest" report from gary tuchman, the border wall the white house has been trumpeting the last few days wasn't a border wall at all, it was a construction fence. find out what they said ahead. and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex.
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it is a marathon and democrats calling it premature. as the vote was ending, house democrats started singing. ♪ ♪ >> didn't catch all the words. at the end, hey hey hey good-bye, saying it will cost some republicans their seats in elections. does that reflect well on democrats? >> no. i think it's stupid, silly, childish, ridiculous and -- >> are you talking about congress? >> yeah. we know why their approval rating is so low. also, it's kind of saying -- it's about how many seats they will win in 2018 and not about the bill itself. it takes their eye off what people really care about how this affects me. i think it was ridiculous. >> democrats have been pretty confident in a lot of elections
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that have gone so well so i'm not sure they should be that excited for the next election. >> i was going to say, let's recall when obamacare was passed, i don't know republicans sang on the floor, when it came election time, democrats lost control. >> there is a history of doing it as jack knows. >> childish. >> i thought it was republicans singing it about obamacare until my colleagues -- >> if we had some people that could carry a tune. >> would you explain for viewers why this bill only needs 51 votes not 60 to pass in the senate in a way that's interesting and not really boring? republicans have 52 seats. >> there is a process through which they can pass a bill in the house that only requires 51 votes in the senate. they use that process but you need to have very specific
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elements to that in order to keep that process going. >> when bernie sanders is talking about working on something, they don't need democrats, do they? >> they don't for what they have done so far which is really the meat of the repeal of obamacare, the mandates gone. the taxes gone, medicare expansion gone, things like that. others like the central health benefits, that does require 60 votes. so that part, which is a big part of obamacare that is going to need 60 votes. remember the beginning of this process in january republicans' talking point was there will be three prongs to this process. that was part of it. in the short term this particular bill we're dealing with now assuming they don't change it dramatically will probably only need 51. even that, even getting the votes among republicans, just like in the house is not going
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to be easy. >> for somebody sitting at home tonight wondering how this affects them, it all depends what the senate passes and goes back, we don't know what the final form is going to be, what do you say to someone sitting at home listing to you guys argue what this actually means. i think it is confusing for someone sitting at home what this actually means to them. >> i'm sure it is confusing. at the ground level i can't tell you how many people would stop me during the course of the campaign to complain about obamacare, they dealt with it for a, b or c reason and were furious, those were the people who turned out in part to vote for donald trump. >> there's a lot of confusion about healthcare in general. that's been the case for years. research have shown about a third of obamacare don't know it's obamacare and that's what they're using for coverage. there's a lot of confusion. there are many steps to go here. not just the senate. it has to be back to the
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keeping them honest follow-up now. while the white house focuses on the health care vote, the senate voted and approved the $1.1 trillion spending bill to fund the government through september. the budget doesn't have money for the border wall that president trump has vowed will be built. there was some money for border security, a lot of money, but not for president trump's waltham. has not stopped the white house, though, this week from arguing otherwise, even showing photos of border fencing under construction to make their point and pointing to what he says, sean spicer says, is existing chain linked fence that is being replaced. here's what sean spicer said about it yesterday. >> you look at that one in particular, you've got a chain link fence is what is currently at our southern border. that is literally down there now. we are able to go in there and instead of having a chain link fence, replace it with that ballard wall. >> budget director mick mulvaney pointed to the same fence using the same photos. >> we are building this now.
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there is money in this deal to build several hundreds of millions of dollars of this to replace this. >> when he was asked, he said he didn't know where that fence actually was. we found without that fence was. it wasn't that difficult to find out and we sent our correspondent gary tuchman down there. he's been down there for two days. last night we said what they were saying is not the full story, not by a -- not even close. we learned the chain link fence mr. spicer and mulvaney kept pointing to is not an existing border barrier at all. in fact, it's just a fence put up by the construction crews working on that part of the wall since before president trump took office because that money was funded under george w. bush. gary's back at it trying to get answers from the white house about what he learned. here's his report. >> reporter: this is gary tuchman from cnn. we started calling and sending e-mails to the white house, the president's press secretary and the budget director to ask about their incorrect claims about the fencing found on the border near
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new mexico. we got no reply so we set out to get a closer look at the barrier. you can't get close to it on the american side, but you can when you make the short trip to mexico. >> we're american reporters from cnn on the mexican side. how's the construction going? >> we're not allowed to talk about it. sorry. >> reporter: everything safe? >> yeah, everything is safe right now. >> reporter: there was unhappiness about the construction in this desperately poor neighborhood outside of juarez, mexico. there's no question it's easy to scale this fence. possibly could probably do it quickly but this is not a border fence, this is a temporary construction fence that was put up for the construction of the permanent fence. the chain link fence gets taken down as the secure barrier takes its place. standard operating procedure, say the workers. the trump administration suggested two separate times it's responsible for the new barrier, keeping the campaign promise, they say. that's not true.
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>> this wall came from the bush administration. >> is that common knowledge in this area? >> absolutely. >> reporter: on the mexican side, people we talk to give responsibility to -- >> donald trump. >> reporter: donald trump? >> si. >> reporter: donald trump? >> si. >> reporter: jose casas lives across the street from the fence, he operates a food stand. he says yes it's donald trump's wall because since he's been in office they're continuing to work on the fence. some workers tell us rocks get thrown on them on occasion. jose casas doesn't endorse that but says it's hard seeing taller and taller walls where you live. he says "how could you not be offended? it's not right." the construction here is expected to continue into the summer and if you want to give credit, it goes to george w. bush and barack obama who continue to permit it while he was president. donald trump getting credit will have to wait. >> so gary, are there other
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projects like this one along the border that were started before president trump took office? this seems like it's kind of the general upkeep and improvement of the existing fencing, correct? >> reporter: that's exactly what it is, anderson. big project taking place right now, for example, in the border town inaof naco, arizona, a similar, taller stronger fence is going up. they're also using a chain link fence as the construction fence. so even though this project and that project are happening as we speak, they have nothing to do with the presidency of donald trump. >> and i know you called the white house and informed them of this and this is obviously the second day you've been down there, the second night you've been doing reports for us. any response from the white house. >> reporter: the white house, the press secretary, the budget director at this point have absolutely no comment about what they said the previous two days. >> are you sure they have your number to call you back? >> reporter: they definitely have my e-mail, anderson, i know
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that. >> okay, all right, gary tuchman, thanks, we'll continue to follow it and find out why they were claiming the chain link fence is border when it's not, just put up by the construction workers. president trump is back in new york for the first time since taking office and he's praising his first victory on the gop health care plan but he faces a tough sell in the senate. of your allergy season for continuous relief. claritin provides powerful, non-drowsy, 24-hour relief. for fewer interruptions from the amazing things you do every day. live claritin clear. every day. ♪ ♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. ♪
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