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a year? chris, this is about people's lives. this is benefitting and helping people. a single woman less than $6,200 with two children. come on. get real. stop the politics. do what is right. build a strong economy. keep our folks healthy. we have a lean system. in fact, we have one of the leanest systems in all of america. i don't have room to cut. that's the problem with the per cap. i can't go back and cut. do i tell the single woman i'm taking it down to $5,000 a year? these are real people and real numbers and unfortunately the rhetoric of political campaign has come in and it will do grave daerpg danger to the country. >> governor, thank you for calling in. be safe. >> thank you, chris. >> thank you, sir. per cap. that means per capita. they have choices. you can get money on individual basis or block grant. you will get less. thanks to you our international viewers for watching.
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for you "cnn talk" is next. for u.s. viewers, what does this health care bill mean to you? we have the answers. let's get after it. >> we're going to take care of a lot of people with health care needs. >> if the bill became law, thousands of americans would die because they no longer have access to health care. >> i don't think this bill will go anywhere in the senate. >> we have a lot of work to do. one thing is clear. republicans are committed to keeping our promise. >> i didn't come here to take away people's rights. i'm not going to. >> this is repeal and replace of obamacare. make most mistake. >> the ayes 217. >> they have this vote tattooed on them. this is a scar they will carry. >> this is "new day." with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to "new day." president trump celebrating his first legislative win in the house, but the fight to repeal and replace obamacare shifts to
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the senate where it faces an uphill battle. some senate republicans are rejecting the house bill. they want to write their own. >> the president taking a victory lap from the white house to new york. democrats vowing republican lawmakers will pay when people head to the polls next year. they were doing the hey, hey bye-bye. >> why didn't you sing it? >> my voice can change your day for the worse. >> i know that. >> we have it covered. let's begin with suzanne malveaux live on capitol hill. >> reporter: house republicans took a significant step to fulfilling a promise to the american people in passing health care plan on the house side. there is a significant way to go before it becomes law. senate republicans rejecting key provisions of the bill. some even vowing to start from scratch. >> i think we'll get it through. mitch mcconnell knows.
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>> reporter: the republican effort to repeal and replace obamacare now in the hands of the senate with the controversial bill that narrowly passed in the house and faces an uphill battle. >> it could change. it could get better. >> reporter: senate aors vowing do things their way. >> mr. president, this bill in its current form is not getting through the senate. no way. no way. >> the senate will write its own bill. >> i don't think the house bill necessarily predicts. >> reporter: the legislation passed in the house. eliminates the tax penalty for americans who choose not to buy insurance. replaces the generous subsidy offered under obamacare with tax credits. and rolls back medicaid expansion in 2020. it also increases the limit on what insurers can charge older enrollees and allows companies to charge more for pre-existing
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conditions. among those to lose the most, those with pre-existing conditions, elderly and low income americans. while younger americans, healthy and middle and upper class and insurance companies stand to benefit. ♪ hey, hey good-bye >> reporter: democrats taunting republicans after the vote which they say is a political liability in 2018. >> some of you said they will fix it in the senate. you have every provision of this bill tattooed on your forehead. you will glow in the dark on this one. >> reporter: republican senator lindsey graham stressing the bill should be viewed with caution because it was rushed through the house without cost and impact estimate. >> we should have had a cbo estimate. i don't always agree with cbo. i quite disagree. we should still have assessment. >> reporter: some house
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republicans admitting they haven't read the legislation before voting yes. >> i will admit, i did not. >> my staff did. >> i would be dishonest. >> reporter: something congress member paul ryan blasted democrats for back in 2009. >> i don't think we should pass bills we haven't read. we shouldn't rush this through. >> reporter: cbo score is expected to take several weeks. of course, senate republicans saying it will take several weeks for them to go through the deliberative process. it is a process that is not going to be rushed and it will also consider compromise and that bill will go back to the house where the debate will start all over again. alisyn. >> you will cover all of it. suzanne, thank you very much. president trump is taking a victory lap. he is riding high on the first legislative win in the house. and declaring obamacare dead. he made head scratching comments after the vote.
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jeff zeleny has more on that. >> president trump is waking up at the golf course in new jersey after spending a little more than four hours in new york city last night. it was his first visit back to the hometown since taking office. welcome by protesters which is why he did not stay longer. he arrived with a sense of satisfaction about the biggest campaign promise is one step closer to reality. president trump savoring a victory. the first major legislative win. presiden presidency. a new era of confidence after house republicans united to repeal and replace obamacare. >> republicans came together all of a sudden two days ago and it was like magic. they came together. they are very, very united. >> reporter: the president meeting with australian prime minister malcolm turnbull. >> premiums will come down
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substantially. deductibles will go down. >> reporter: the president making this offhanded remark. >> i shouldn't say this to this great gentleman from australia. you have better health care than we do. >> reporter: democrats point out australia has universal health care. >> mr. president, you are right. in australia and every other major country they guarantee health care to all people. they don't throw 24 million people off insurance. >> reporter: delaying the first face-to-face meeting with the prime minister after a victory lap in the rose garden. surrounded byes hou e e e es ho republicans. >> we get this passed through the senate. >> reporter: promises on health care can be hard to keep. just ask president obama. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor under the proposals we put forward. if you like your private health
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insurance plan, you can keep it. >> reporter: under his watch, democrats lost control of the house and senate. largely over health care. the question voters will ultimately decide is trumpcare better than obamacare? >> we suffered with obamacare. i went through two years of campaigning and i'm telling you no matter where i went, people were suffering. >> reporter: the president basking in the moment. vindication from failing to pass the bill a month earlier. >> how am i doing? i'm president. can you believe it? >> reporter: the president has no public events on the schedule today as he breathes a sigh of relief. there is an uphill battle in the senate. a white house official tells me the president learned a lesson and plans to be more personal involved in the next phase. the reality is he owns the reshr reshaping of the american health
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care system. it is on him. the politics and policy of trumpcare. >> let's bring in the panel to discuss. we have cnn analyst abby phillip and maggie haberman and chris cilliz cillizza. are they starting from scratch? >> you heard them say we will not pay attention. you are not seeing the process that we are used to of reconciliation where you have dual tracks in the same direction. there is a lot going to be tossed out. we will see what it ends up like when they try to marry these bills. make no mistake. you have senators from purple states or red states where president trump did well who have a lot of working class or rural voters who do like obamacare. obamacare is not a slam dunk for a lot of voters.
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i heard voters complain in the 2016 campaign and premiums had gone up. enough of president trump's base of support and swing voters favor it. it is not the easiest thing to take it and get rid of it. the provisions that those voters like in many cases are not in the house version. >> if they didn't like obamacare, it is hard to argue they are better served under what just passed as trumpcare in the house. mr. cillizza, the idea of the president looking at the australian leader and saying you have better health care than we do. you have universal health care. which is what the implication was from that. is this donald trump trying to be complementally and not knowing what is in the health care or admission on its face he prefers the democrats' version?
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>> this is a larger pattern of anytime he goes off script he does stuff like this. i do not think he knew what he was endorsing there. i think he has a tendency to tell people what they want to hear. particularly in a public setting. that's what he was doing here. i don't think he -- my guess is he did not study up on the australian health care system before doing that sit down. again, the more he talks, i think his 100-day mark was a bad one because he gave so many interviews. i counted 12 or 13 interviews. he just talks and talks and talks. it is almost always, maggie and abby can attest to this. it is almost always off script. this is like reading jack kerowac. he says stuff that he heard. that is not good -- it is not
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good as a statesman. when you are the most powerful man in the country. even with the house republicans. am i president? huh, huh, huh? i'm not sure that's the best thing to be doing when you are trying to reform health care system lots of people are worried about. >> by the way, this is not the first time he has endorsed universal health care. in his book, he was all for it. let me read a passage. i'm a conservative on most issues, but liberal on this one. we should not hear so many families ruined by health care expenses. we must take care of our own. we must have universal health care. obviously he seemed to like it yesterday. in terms of what republicans are thinking with this bill it would be political suicide if it was all bad. clearly they see some advantages in what they passed in the ho e
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house. >> you are right. the universal health care thing is one thing trump held on to perplexingly over years. as recently and a few months ago, he wanted everyone to have insurance. this plan clearly does not accomplish that. there is a disconnect here between trump wanting people to have everything that he thinks is good for them. he wants them to be covered and he wants pre-existing conditions to be covered and political reality that is not really possible in a republican house. i think if trump is going to move forward here, it will be with a bill that is going to be substantially changed in the senate and republicans are actually -- you heard mark meadows saying i think the bill well get better in the senate because they don't think that the substance of the bill is doing what they need to accomplish. the tax credits are not high enough. the medicaid expansion process does not work for the states. there's a lot they have to fix and republicans in the house are
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hoping for that. >> it would be interesting if this gets exposed in the senate process as naked political play by those in the house and if they get punished. and another piece of sound. ryan hanging this as victory as speaker. we got it done. this is the right way to do it. here is what he said about obamacare. >> last week, in a stunning and revealing statement, speaker pelosi said quote we have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it, end quote. this is the transparency that the president promised. t this is not just a simple fixer bill. this is a lynch pin for health care. >> he went on to say we shouldn't have done this before we knew its impact. he just did. obviously hypocritical move.
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he is being celebrated for it. maggie, explain. >> i think it depends on who you see doing the celebrating. we saw the white house celebrating and members of his conference. you saw democrats waving and saying na, na, na, good-bye. republicans are looking at a mirror version of what they complained about democrats doing. remember, obamacare was debated over many months. this was not rushed through in a couple of weeks. there was a longer process. to be clear, you can have complaints how the bill went down, but it was thorough. there is no cbo scoring yet. you had chris collins acknowledge he wasn't familiar in the bill and hadn't read it. the sound you played is the type of campaign commercial you can expect to see in another year or so. obviously not against paul ryan, but against the moderates in
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swing districts who are vulnerable with voters. >> when you take things away from people, it harder. you have to explain it to them. you cannot just say, oh, your pre-existing conditions were here yesterday, but they are gone tomorrow. we won't tell you how the process will work. it is the gamble they are playing here. that's why the republicans were so opposed to obamacare in the first place. you give people entitlements. taking it away is hard and unpopular sgrch unpopular. >> you have a slice, chris, that is zeroed in on trumpcare. 1.5 million to 2 million individuals in the individual market with high deductibles and high premiums. that is the gamble. how big are the stakes? >> that is huge. 1.5 million to 2 million people. we don't have a cbo score. we don't know how much it will cost and how many people are
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going to be missing coverage as a result. the problem for republicans is we're going to find that out. the cbo will score this almost certainly before the senate does anything with it. my guess is you will have more than 1.5 million people or 2 million people not covered. 24 million people when the cbo first scored that had coverage under obamacare that would not have coverage under the house plan. i think abby makes an important point. when you take something from someone that even if they didn't like it, they had it. it is very hard politically speaking. the explanation for democrats now is you had this. they took it from you. you don't have it anymore. the explanation for republicans. you don't have it anymore, but let me explain. that explanation goes longer than a 30 second television commercial. the democrats explanation takes five seconds in a commercial. you play a clip of chris collins
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say i didn't read the bill. end scene. that to me is the problem. i don't -- there are real policy impacts here for people with pre-existing conditions. if the medicaid funding freeze goes through. from a political perspective, this is a much easier sell if you are a democrat running against a republican who just voted for it. >> you make a good point. hands off my stuff. even my bad stuff. thank you, panel. the house bill promises to give states more control of health care. you have been hearing a lot of people talking about what governors want. you have not heard from governors. we gave you a democrat in virginia. terry mcauliffe. now we have the governor of arkansas. what do they want and what they are getting with the bill? next.
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i am angry. an angry constituent. you work for us! >> that was in february. one angry arkansas voter taking on senator tom cotton at a town hall. now the republican controlled house voted to dismantle key parts of obamacare. governors are used as a reason for many of the changes. this is what the governors asked us for. now, what does that really mean? we have not heard from governors. we will hear from one right now. arkansas's governor asa hutchinson. governor, thank you for joining us. i do not want to ignore a very pressing situation going on with flooding in your state right now. we know especially in northeastern reas northeastern regions there's a problem. how great is the need?
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>> i did a flyover yesterday and saw the flooding region. the water, thank goodness, is receding in parties. we had broken levees. it will impact our farm land and we will have significant damage. we will ask for a national declaration down the road. right now, it is all about recovery and saving property anand s lives. thank you. >> the concern is real. we are here to get out the information as needed for what will be done to help those victimized in arkansas and elsewhere in the flood region. let's use that as a pivot point to your job. being governor is taking care of those in need. what do you say to your constituents in your state about what trumpcare, this bill just passed, means for them? >> whenever we pass the bill in the house, yes need we need to d
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it is not the completion of the proper cys process. there needs to be more changes in the senate. what we have from the governor's standpoint in arkansas is not manageable over the long term. we cannot afford the system. for example in arkansas and medicaid expansion, we estimate at 250,000 would be on the program. it is increase over 320,000. that is one of the things we started doing in our reform in arkansas. asking for waivers from the federal government that we could not get under president obama's administration. there needs to be change. it started in the house yesterday. it gives us more flexibility to manage our health care systems. it still results in a cost shift to the states that needs to be rectified when it gets to the senate. >> i want you to explain that to the audience. i had so many congress members on. i know governors are busy.
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they say this is what the governors asked for. they wanted flexibility. i can give it per capita or a block grant. that is what they wanted. what they ignore is they are cutting how much you are going to get period. they will shift that cost to the state as if you guys had bottomless pockets. what is the reality? >> the reality is we need that flexibili flexibility. a good example is we want to put a simple work requirement in for those on medicaid and able-bodied and don't have dependent children. obamacare refused to give that to us. we need the work requirement in place to get people trained and move them into the work force. we don't want this to be a permanent entitlement program. we want to concentrate the resources on the poverty level or before. the obama administration
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insisted we cover up to 138% of the poverty level. we need to concentrate and asked the federal government to limit to 100% for those in the greatest need. we have to look at the per capita cost to make sure sufficient money there to cover the program needs. i'm also worried about those moving toward the exchange that the subsidy on the exchange continue in a fashion that gives people a solution whenever they are in that mid range above poverty level, but not enough to afford health insurance. >> i'm not hearing you on that. they are cutting the amount of money you get from the federal side. they will ask you to chip in more. looking at your fiscal numbers, i don't see where that money will come from. is that a real issue that is addressed in the senate? how much money to take care of people who cannot take care of themselves. >> i think the federal
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government can save money on the medicaid expansion side. if you give us more ability to control the costs and we save money for the federal government and the states. where the issue i think most dramatic is whenever you are looking at the subsidy on the exchange, you have to have the focus on the federal resources of those moving off the exchange and moving up the economic ladder and trying to get a better job. that is where we need to concentrate federal resources. right now, it struck out too much on the higher income levels. we want to make sure we don't absorb the burden on that. that is what needs to be looked at in the senate. >> what do you say to the senate who takes up the bill? what do you see as change? >> i would like to see a closer examination of the cost shift to the states and how that could be
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remedied. this is a partnership with us anthd them. what we want is more flexibility in the insurance market. we believe that competition will drive those costs down and increaseavailability. that is what we need to look at the cost shifts to make sure it is sufficient when we move off medicaid expansion and move off medicaid that they have somewhere to go. let's focus in the senate. partner with them to save the federal government money and states. if we have flexibility in the programs and make sure they are sufficient for the subsidycurre exchange. we are concerned that is limited from the house. >> governor hutchinson, thank you. again, many wishes for safety
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and quick resolution. >> thank you, chris. coming up, senator tim kain ir e. what is he going to say about what the senate will do with health care? alisyn. how will the gop health care bill impact all of us? we have experts from both sides to break it down next. people confuse nice and kind but they're different. it's nice to remove artificial ingredients. kind never had to. we've used real ingredients, whole nuts, and natural flavors from the very beginning. give kind a try.
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all right. so we now see that the republicans got what they wanted. what would this health care bill, this new trumpcare reality mean to you? let's discuss with andy slavick. the former administrator for medicaid services under president obama. he opposes the house bill. and david hobbie. kpo former chief of staff to paul ryan. now with the one nation health coaliti coalition. he this the house bill is a significant move. let's start with why this is a good move for americans. >> the good news is what we are
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trying to do is change this from a government-dominated system to the system controlled by the patient and doctor. what the aca did was put government control on health care since world war ii on steroids. changing that over so people haves choices and access and benefits health savings accounts and wide array for opportunities which what you talked about with the governor in the last segment. states have the ability to find the best program for the people in the states. this is the first step. not a complete step. a first step. >> let's talk about the first step. sounds good. more about me. more about my doctor. i like it. what do people need to know? >> i think the thing that people need to know is what the house did yesterday overwhelmingly had little to do with their own exchange and their lives and was a significant cut. $830 billion cut to medicaid. the program that the governors
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around the country and americans depend upon. furthermore, they took the care and support that goes to older americans and people in rural america and people with pre-existing conditions and put that in jeopardy by increasing the costs and increasing the -- decreasing the protections that americans enjoy. it may have been an exciting day in washington, but millions around the country, not so much. >> mr. hoppe. >> under the current system what you have seen is premiums rising tremendously on people. the deductibles rising for people. it got to the point to have insurance, you could not afford to use it. that's part of the problem that has to change. >> let's stop right there for a second. let's take a look at that. mr. hoppe. that was the problem. explodingpremiums and high
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deductib deductibles. how many people effected by premiums that are spiking and deductibles that are too high? people should remember the rate of increase of cost under the aca is less than the costs before it. what is that population? how big a population? >> the critical answer is who is the population. it is the population of people who need the most help. who have the health problems. older people. these are the ones you have to look at and those are the ones priced out of the market. there were a lot of families priced out of the market. these are things everybody knew, every candidate had a plan to do something to adjust the aca. it simply wasn't going to work long term. that's what everybody is trying to do. republicans want to go in the direction of making it a doctor/patient relationship instead of the government. >> i get the point. what i'm saying is nobody was arguing the aca didn't need
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fixes. that was the most politically ex-peditious route. they told people they would repeal and replace. mr. slavitt, mr. hoppe doesn't want to talk about the number. it is 1.5 million to 2 million people caught up in the spiking trend. what do you see? >> if what mr. hoppe said was accura accurate. the house would wait for a cbo score and would have said to the public that the deductibles would go down and premiums would go down. the problems he complained about would be worse. it is set to go up 60%. premiums will rise 15% next year. we need surgical solutions. if people pull together from both parties which we have not been able to do and focus on the
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solutions that effect 1 million to 2 million people. alaska has done it. this bill does the opposite. it takes the things that people have been complaining about and makes them worse. >> mr. hoppe. >> i think what you need to look at is how are you going to make this better over the long term. even the cbo scoring said the premiums would start to go down after you get through the transition period of out of the aca. premiums would go down for people. that is the key thing. more importantly than that. four ways to get health care in the country. most people go through one or two or three or four. medicaid. through your employer. you get it through medicare or the private individual market or small group market. in all of those, people should have the right to are access, benefits, choices. health savings accounts have
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different options so you figure out what you need and best way to provide the health care knkcs for that family. that is what you need to do as we move forward. a system to allow people in the four areas where we have health care in the country to have the same access benefits and choices and health saving accounts to cover the family with the doctors they choose and have the best health care for families. that's what we believe the market will bring. that is what the one nation health coalition will do. get to the markets so individuals and doctors and families can work together to find a solution to problems that is not pricing them out through higher premiums or deductibles. >> one thing i can get you to agree on. we ain't there yet. mr. hoppe and mr. slavitt, thank you. alisyn. will democrats work with republicans in the senate on the health care plan? we ask senator tim kaine when he joins us live next.
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>> alisyn, great to be with you. >> we know that democrats and you do not like the house version of this bill. what worries you the most? >> the consequences are very, very drastic, alisyn. as you know, they rushed through the vote before the cbo could score it. when the cbo scored the earlier investigati version which was similar. 24 million people would lose insurance. that is the combined population of 16 states. premiums would go up for many. medicaid gets slashed. this bill eliminates funding for planned parenthood and hurts funding for schools providing special education services to kids. the bill is going nowhere in the senate as many of the republican colleagues said yesterday. we will work on our own bill. this bill is a non starter. look, here is a point where we can agree. president trump made promises to the american public. he made three. he said premiums will go down. nobody will lose coverage and
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folks with pre-existing conditions will be protected. that's not the case with the house bill. if we can work toward those three goals, we can find areas to make progress. that's what my job is as a member of the committee. >> as you know, republicans have a lot of issues and they always have with obamacare. what they say is the reason it cannot stand is because premiums have risen and deductibles have risen and people who had it can't use it because they can't afford premiums and deductibles. they say it is in a death spiral. they said something had to happen and happen now. do you disagree with the issues on obamacare? >> look, i do they we need fixes. i said that all along. i led a group of 15 democrats say we will work to repair it anytime. but repeal the law that is providing insurance to millions of people. the uninsurance rate is the
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lowest it has been in a long time. the worst thing to do is take insurance away from 24 million people. if this is improvement and repair and reforms and advances, dems are glad to be around the table. if it is about politics, no, we are not going to participate i / slashing health care for millions and give tax cuts to the richest. when the house passes the bill rushes it through before the cbo score, it tells you it is not about health care. it is about politics. the good news in the senate, we will get the cbo score. we should have hearings to hear doctors and hospitals and patients about what they think. if we are earnest about that, we can find improvements. >> speaking of politics, there is a democrat running for governor in virginia. tomorrow periello.
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he wasted no time to turn this campaign into gold. let's play it for viewers. watch this. >> republican heard leaders areg to do this to affordable health care. i voted for obamacare. it was wrong that millions weren't covered while insurance companies held the power. now i'm running for governor. it is wrong that incomes have not gone up in 20 years. together, we can stop donald trump. raise wages and build an economy that works for everyone. we'll make sure this never happens in virginia. >> i'm impressed he did that in one take. you had to do that in one take as the ambulance is being crushed behind you. the larger question for you, senator, are democrats going to sit back and hope republicans are hoisted up and hope you can make hay out of this for the mid terms as republicans did so effectively against democrats in
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the mid terms in 2010? >> alisyn, this is a huge issue. tom perriello ran the ad. the other democratic candidate for governor in virginia who i support. ralph's a pediatrician. ralph is a doctor who is a strong supporter of the affordable care act. you will hear that as a feature in the governor's race this year in 2017. the right answer for a u.s. senator is like do what is best for the folks. again, it is an untenabilile situation to pass a bill to raise premiums for seniors and cut services for kids and special education. we will not be party to that. that is not about politics. that is about trying to have people's backs and protect people vulnerable and need health insurance. if the republicans are true to the promises that donald trump made, lower premiums, maintain
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coverage and protect those with pre-existing conditions, we can find a path forward. i look forward to colleagues to doing that. >> senator, i want to ask you about hillary clinton's comments this week. she sat down it christiane amanpour. she did a postmortem of what went wrong with the campaign. you were seconnected to that. she seemed to hang the loss at the feet of do you agree with that assessment? >> well, you know, director comey appeared before the senate judiciary committee this week and i think the testimony was very plain. there were two rules the fbi follows with respect to elections. they don't talk about on young investigations and don't put out controversial material on the eve of election. >> but this was extraordinary circumstances. >> well, that's not really -- i don't think that's what the
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rules are. the rules were there for a reason. director comey made a decision to break both of those rules with respect to the investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails and he made a decision to follow the rules and keep silent about the investigation into the trump campaign's connections with the russian effort to destabilize the election process. the fact that he -- oh, no, i didn't say that. i'm just saying director comey testified this week and he made it very plain that he broke the fbi rules with respect to the clinton campaign, and he chose not to break the rules with respect to the trump campaign, and that was a factor. there are many factors, but i think it will go down as probably the lowest moment in the history of the fbi, probably next to the decision to wiretap martin luther king and it was unfortunate. but, look, we're all now in our places with jobs to do and chief among those jobs is protecting
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the health care of all americans. >> senator tim kaine, always nice to talk to you. thank you so much. >> all right. these floods must be paid attention to. they are devastating the midwest. we have a live report from hard-hit missouri, just one of the areas underwater. next. can i get some help. watch his head. ♪ i'm so happy. ♪ whatever they went through, they went through together. welcome guys. life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you.
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brave officers jump into action after a bridge collapses in atlanta. >> the flames were so huge and the smoke was so black. >> we don't know what's burning. it's up on the 85 bridge. >> thousands of people just trying to get home. suddenly a massive fire in their path on a crumbling interstate bridge. a city paralyzed, except for a few first responders who answered the call that officers had no clue how dangerous the situation was going to get. >> came over the radio and said we've got a fire. >> we've got the second alarm. we immediately headed out here. there was so much black smoke.
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i could see the flames bellowing up. >> those flames did not stop the officer from jumping into his parole car. thomas ran up an embankment up into the interstate to get people out of harm's way. >> you're so focussed to make sure nobody crosses the line. and then -- >> kept on hearing mini explosions. >> it was very hot, and a lot of fire does not do well with concrete. >> we don't know anything about bridge supports. >> but the fire chief did. >> boom! boom! boom! you could hear it. and that's the sign. you've got to take heed to the sign. >> he moved everyone from underneath that interstate bridge. and then moments later. >> boom! we could have easily buried some people in there. but while the damage was extreme, not many people injured
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that day. and many, including the president, credit the responders willingness to head into danger. >> your skill and courage saved many lives and represented true strength. >> when you get the call from the president's office, that's like a whole another -- it's a game changer. >> still, these guys say -- >> it's not warranted. we appreciated. >> do you feel heroic? >> i feel like it's part of my job. >> diane gallagher, cnn, atlanta, georgia. >> what a hero says every time. >> floods devastating the midwest. levies are failing in arkansas. we had a governor on saying there are extreme situations there. now there are fears of levy breaches in parts of missouri. live in hard-hit arnold, miss
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missou missouri. >> reporter: the near by river overflowed and flooded these communities. you can see they are making some progress. they got the sandbags out and the water level is beginning to recede. you've got 500 or so homes that have been impacted. the good news is the forecast is clear today and again the water level is going down. but folks are looking north of st. louis to where the rivers converge. there could be more flooding perhaps this week. and folks will keep a close eye on that area. >> thank you very much for that update. we're following a lot of news this morning, including what health care means to you. let's get right to it. >> we will have great, great health care for everyone in our nation. >> the bill is passed and without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.
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>> if the american people could sue congress for malpractice, my republican friends would be in deep trouble. >> i am confident that we just made a vote to stop this death spiral. >> if you have a pre-existing condition, you may have just lost your health care. >> welcome to the beginning of the end of obamacare. >> this is a fraud, this bill, and we are going to fight it with all we have. >> we will get this passed through the senate. i feel so confident. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning and welcome to your new day. up first, the fight over health care reform starts all over again. the senate has it now and they're saying they are going to create their own bill. >> president trump celebrating his first legislative victory from the white house to new york. so how will lawmakers answer constituents who are angry about this gop plan? we have it all covered for you.
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