thanks for doing this hour. i'm in for kate baldwin. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us. some positive economic news. 211,000 new jobs added in april. unemployment rate at its lowest point in ten years. 4.4%. that's good news for a country for the country and a president who is ready to celebrate. he believes the house kate to repeal and replace obamacare to give his spirits a much needed jolt. >> this is a great plan. i actually think it will get even better. this is, make no mistake, this is a repeal and a replace of obamacare. make no mistake about it. make no mistake. >> now, though, on to a most uncertain next step. the senate.

republicans have a tiny majority there and don't like a lot of what they see in the house bill. >> reporter: the senate will write its own bill. that's clear. mitch mcconnell's made that clear. others in leadership have made that clear. so we'll be writing our own bill. >> and as these policy fights play out, the next campaign takes shape in an instant. democrats lost the house, remember, after passing obamacare. they think republicans are returning the favor. >> you have every provision of this bill tattoos on your forehead. you will glow in the dark with this one. you will glow in the dark. >> with us this friday to share their reporting, cnn nia-malika henderson, michael, and mary katherine. on day 105 the president was down right giddy. >> coming from a different world and only being a politician for

a short period of time, how am i doing? am i okay? i'm president. do you believe it? >> he is president. it's a celebration he earned. his efforts played a big part in winning house passage of legislation to repeal and replace obamacare. now it's day 106 and the reality is this. yes, the vote gave the president and house republicans a very much needed win. but your fifth grade civics lessons still apply. but yesterday does nothing to change health care in america. one chamber does not new law make. the senate is next and the republican majority there, well, has little maneuvering room. 52-48 is the edge for republicans and also lots of policy differences with their friends over in the house. >> the house freedom caucus made the bill a lot less bad, but what i'm still concerned with is this will be the first time that republicans have affirmatively put their stamp of approval on a program where federal money, taxpayer money, is paid to

insurance companies. >> i want everybody in the individual market to be protected against pre-existing conditions by getting into the group market and letting market forces work. it can work, but the current bill acknowledges that it doesn't work and then we just subsidize the insurance companies which i think is deplorable. >> so where are we today? again, significant achievement, especially given what happened six weeks ago when they went off the rails. the house has now passed a bill. the president is happy. that's a big step in the direction. his maneuvering and negotiating helped move it along. but that's rand paul. on the right saying the tea party, libertarian people in the senate saying this is still too much government. republicans saying let's use government to help people. then you have people more to the center and i'll say to the left of the republican party, the moderates, who say wait, this bill leaves too many people at risk. what happens? >> i don't think we know yet. but i think the fact that it came out of the house and it came out of the house because republicans need today to come out of the house.

they need to make good on the repeal and replace, make it not a slogan but make it a reality. that kind of tribalism that avs the pl -- was at play in the house kicks in in the senate. mitch mcconnell is good at wrangling. look at how he was able to stall merit garland forever and get gorsuch on the supreme court. there are meetings going on about what this bill will look like. yeah, there will be a lot of policy differences. what happens with planned parenthood funding, what happens with the medicaid expansion. but my money in some ways is on mitch mcconnell and getting this done. >> here's three things we know are going to happen. some of them are outside of the senators control and they're going to be watching them for signals. number one, they're going home for a week and see how much they get yelled at. see what the passion is from the grass roots. both the activist grass roots on the right and the larger grass

roots of their districts. are people passionately upset about this, are they supportive of this. what is the vibe they're going to get. number two, the cbo is going to score this bill some weeks after the fact and that's going to give people at least in some guidelines of what are the estimates of how this will affect people. number three, the senate's going to write a bill. the septembnate has said they'r going to take up the house bill. it's up to the senators and mitch mcconnell to decide how much does the bill we write resemble the house bill, given it was much more about process but putting a win on the board and much less about substance of policy. >> i want to show as we continue the conversation, the white house is celebrating. i want to show you a picture yesterday. social media director tweeted this. it's hard to see, but if you look closely the president of the united states surrounded by steve bannon, but gary cohen, jared kushner, his daughter

ivanka. the question, mary katherine, the republicans in the house decided we have to pass something because our base is going to collapse. let's do the best we can and see what happens in the senate. the problem is the senate is likely to send something back to the house if it passes anything. you make your bet on mitch mcconnell. we're going to have the same debate all over again with the freedom caucus and with the conservatives. >> that is one of the perils of doing this. it's actually very hard to do. i think it's less of an ideological or a practical win than some on the right are saying. it's much less dire a loss for those on the left than they are acting like it is if you look at the provisions that are actually in this which by the way is not at all how it will look if it becomes law in the future. so i think people should take a deep breath. the good thing is as somebody who has been negatively acted by obamacare, there are many, many us of, but there is this situation in the individual market. you have aetn adjua just droppi

out. if you leave it, it will not fix itself. moving at all was necessary. it was a promise that the gop made and i think it's necessary for actually helping. >> it helps with their messaging. obamacare is broken and we're going to fix it. the democrats message is something like republicans don't care. >> but their calculation is democrats passed obamacare, it is broken. we republicans are going to fix it. this is still not a -- there's no effort and -- if the senate collapses, and they can't get back together, it will be interesting to see what the president does. for now this is on a republican only track. >> look at what obama found when he was doing this. you have to live to fight another day. right? and there were lots of places. there were lots of times along the way of the obamacare fight where if they hadn't cleared a committee, they hadn't cleared the house, they hadn't cleared various pieces, it just would collapse. the republicans are right to

celebrate in the sense that if they had failed here, they would have all gone home as molly said and that would have been a tough thing to explain. >> i just want to point out i think there are a couple of other lessons that the obama administration and the democrats learned the hard way in 2009. the republicans have not heeded here. one is that you disrupt the existing health care system at your peril. even if you believe you are helping a lot of people, that disruption to that system is something of a third rail. it's really hard politically. and somebody two, it's even harder if you do it on partisan lines f. y lines. if you don't have bipartisan buy-in to sell this, it becomes much more of a political hot potato. >> there's no congressional budget office score. that's a tradition. they look at the bill. how many people will this put on health care. how many people will it kick off. how much will it affect the federal deficit. what impact do they think it will have? which is why senator lindsey

graham when everyone asked the senators, okay, what do you think of the house bill? he said i'm waiting to see if it's a boy or girl. anything posted less than 24 hours not scored needs to be viewed with suspicion. so the senate is, a it's just the senate for those of you that have been in town for more than a week. it's a very different beast than the house. here's the president of the united states who thinks his approval rating has been down. his first 100 days was want scored great or fabulous. but the president believes this gives him a bit of a boost. here he is in what we call a radio address, trying to use whatever momentum he has to kick the senate. >> on thursday the house voted to repeal one of the worst job killing laws of all. it's called obamacare. perhaps you've heard of it. i'm calling on the senate to take action. repealing and replacing

obamacare will be a big, big win for the american people. >> does he have the juice to get the senate to move at least at a quick pace? if we know, if we know the senate is going to write something that is a grand canyon away from the house legislation, and then they're going to have to spend weeks or more trying to bring that together and the pace of that impacts tax reform and the pace of that impacts infrastructure, does the president have the juice in his first phone call, ashley parker tweeted out yesterday right after the house bill passed, saying here you go, ball's in your court. does he have the juice to get them to move quickly? >> it's interesting that he used some of his juice on this. he seems to have learned that lesson and apply it to the senate, but the senate is perhaps less movable. >> the art of the deal, mr. negotiation. i think we'll find out more about some of the conversations and how those, you know, how much arm twisting there was, et

cetera. but it's a very different thing to deal with some of these senators who are not maybe going to be quite so -- >> they run statewide. most not all. we'll get to this. most of these house republicans think they're in safe districts and are more worried about not doing something. so as we close this part of the conversation, we'll talk more about this. the president after leaving washington in his celebration sat down with the prime minister of australia. there was some talk they had some bad blood. no. we're putting that behind us. he sits down, listen to his take on health care with the australian prime minister. >> premiums are going to come down very substantially. the deductibles are going to come down. it's going to be fantastic health care. right now obamacare is failing. we have a failing health care. i shouldn't say this to our great gentleman or my friend from australia because you have better health care than we do. we're going to have great health care very soon. >> now, trump supporters say he

just likes to be flattering and nice to everybody he sits with. this is him being nice and flattering. you have great oceans. you have great mountains. you have great health care. you have great food. you have great everything. democrats say ding, ding, dipng they have a single run government health care system. >> i don't think trump knows the details of the policy passed out of the house. but i also think that trump if he got a universal health care bill on his desk, he would sign it. and his supporters would love it. that's my sense of it. >> even if he knew what was in this bill versus what australia has, he might pick australia. he's on the record having said -- >> he wants to sign a bill. >> yeah. i think that's right. >> it seems like a potential slip. he's on the record supporting single payer health care for a lot longer than he's ever been for conservative approaches. >> there have been days i thought it might be a little

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president trump's words into a 2018 game changer. look at the map. this is the house of representatives. all that red, that's your republican majority in the house. i want to go back in time. after president obama came to office, it was a democratic majority. see all that blue? that was then. this is now. that's a lot of red replacing a lot of blue. so democrats think republicans are vulnerable for the vote yesterday. these are the 14 they think are most vulnerable. 14 republican house members all elected in 2016 in districts that hillary clinton won. if you see this of -- in 2018, hillary clinton by five. less of an opportunity for democrats maybe. but they think this haeealth ca vote will help them. watch these 14 as they get targeted to see the political impact of the vote that happened yesterday as the health care debate fist.

nancy pelosi led the charge. she remembers these numbers. she was speaker heading into this midterm election. in the next election the democrat didn't just get beat. they lost 63 house seats in the first midterm election after passing obamacare. so among the most passionate during the final hours of debate yesterday, nancy pelosi, the former speaker, now the marrijoy leader, she thinks there's a chance she'll get the gavel back. >> you vote for this bill, you have walked the plank from moderate to radical and you're walking the plank for what? a bill that will not be accepted by the united states senate. why are you doing this? do you believe in what is in this bill? some of you have said well, they'll fix it in the senate. but you have every provision of this bill tattooed on your forehead. you will glow in the dark on this one. you will glow in the dark. >> now, for most people watching at home, they care about the

policy in this bill. and what is going to change in their lives and is it going to be better for their health care, better for their wallet, better for their children and parents and neighbors. this is washington. this show is called "inside p-- just by casting this vote yesterday that dozens of republican house members have put themselves at risk? >> i would say first of all, we don't know. i mean at this point in the 2014 cycle the shutdown hadn't even happened and democrats were sure that was going to be terrible for republicans and they ended up doing pretty well in 2014. >> they took the senate. >> i don't think we can every take nancy pelosi's word for what's going to happen in the house. she predicted democrats were going to take back the house in 2012, in 2014 and 2016. she always makes that prediction. but it is interesting how few republicans you hear making the opposite case. you don't hear any republicans saying no, this will be good for

us, this will enable us to challenge democrats, democrats will pay for being against this. everybody on the hill, republican and democrat, is assuming that this is in some way a political negative even if it's eventually going to fade. >> that was also the refrain of the nancy pelosis of the world about obamacare. it's going to become popular. that day never came. and so i don't think it's wise to gloat about this too early on either side. glowing in the dark by the way is an alternative lifestyle that should be covered. but -- >> essential health benefit. >> i think this is -- it's hard. it could be risky for these guys. because this is down on paper. but i also think you made the promise and many of these guys feel like that was the important thing. and also the folks who were negatively affected by obamacare are the ones who voted these guys in so they're going to be looking at this. >> did ownership at least partially if not completely change hands yesterday in that this was a democratic issue? they passed obamacare with only democratic votes. so in 2010, 2012 obama gets

reelected. damage wasn't as bad. republicans take the house, then they get the white house in 2016. obamacare was a factor and some would say a huge factor. others would debate the margins. now that the republicans have a republican president and they passed something through at least one chamber, do they now own health care? >> i don't think. so i think trumpcare is still to be determined. i think the first weeks of life came yesterday with this passage out of the house so they are framing it like obamacare is still terrible, it's still here and we're going to promise you something much better. i think for democrats we still don't quite know what their messaging messaging is. for democrats they have never been good in terms of obamacare and health care and selling it. they still have to figure out who the candidates are in these different districts. is the resistance real. how do they get their base out. they've never been good over these last cycles in terms of

haelg health care. >> they ran from it. which is a lesson for republicans. if you do like this and you run from your vote. to your point about what is the message, i want you to listen to bernie sanders. you find a lot of troubling poll numbers. the one very solid thing is his base has been rock solid. people who voted for trump say give him a chance, it's not his fall the stumbles, they blame paul ryan, they still blame hillary clinton. listen to bernie sanders trying to make the case last night that he thinks democrats should make. if you voted for trump thinking he was going to help you, in bernie sanders view this health care bill is quite different. >> you take this bill and you -- we don't want to clog up toilets or anything, but you just toss it into a garbage can and you start again. this bill is a disaster. it is an embarrassment. and i want to say to the people who voted for trump. he said we are going to provide health care to everybody and it's going to be less expensive. providing health care to everybody is not throwing 24 million people off of health

insurance. so this in my view, this health care bill is an embarrassment. it's an insult to the american people. >> can the democrats make that case? candidate trump did say costs would go down. under the bill as it now stands, we'll wait for the new cbo score, but the prior bill said older americans your insurance companies could charge you more. >> but two things here. first of all, that are maybe different from the democrats in their situation, first of all, we don't really see the kind of intense activism. second of all, none of these things that bernie sanders suggests might happen are going to happen by 2018. so even if it's true that four years from now or six years from now there are millions of people thrown off the rolls and haelgts

care premiums have spiked, people are still going to be feeling the after effects of obamacare, not trumpcare. >> that's why i asked the ownership question. things won't change that fast but who will they blame? >> i think what republicans proved in 2010 and every election going forward was that you can hang health care on the party that tried to change it relentless le and it is much easier to say anything you don't like about your health care system is their fault. and just pound that negative message over and over again. and what democrats found out is it's really hard to explain and to sell and to say but no, it hasn't even been implemented yet and to say but no, these things aren't our fault, they had to do with the previous system. none of that works because when you can tell the entire american public anything you don't like about health care is their fault, that's pretty effective. >> it will be interesting. the first political test on the ballot will be the georgia special election.

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the billboard music awards. sunday, may 21st eight seven central only on abc. welcome back. at some point before midnight president trump will sign a big spending bill that keeps the government running for the next five months. those are the final five months of the fiscal year. things could change, but for now no public event to show the signing. the white house says they will probably release a photo of that. perhaps this is why. the president received scathing reviews in the conservative media this past week for agreeing to a spending plan that among other things has no money for his border wall but continues to fund planned parenthood. look at those headlines. ouch. today's headlines on those same sites are much better from a white house perspective. the president hopes his base is thinking more about health care than spending. >> this has heal brougreally br

republican party together. as much as we've come up with a really incredible health care plan, this has brought the republican party together. we're going to get this finished and then we're going as you know, we put our tax plan in. >> i'm not sure if rand paul and susan collins, two very different senators would agree with the president that it's brought them together. it has given them a joint me mission. in the past weeks the reviews of this president and the reviews of the spending bill, want just him, why did the speaker go along with this, why would the republican senator go along with this, but he's the president and the places he goes for affirmation were kicking him in the teeth. >> it was an easy thing to kick everyone in the teeth over because everyone in the two factions chose their first villain. either paul ryan or donald trump. donald trump caved. paul ryan caved. they just choose the person. but the republican and conservative wing has to figure out how to work together and what you saw in that rose garden

ceremony, the most telling thing was ryan and trump coming together and working together and deciding that this was the thing they could get across the line together. it's just the first step. i do think that's a signal of sorts. >> i think the question with this spending bill is given that it doesn't do so many of the things that conservatives and nonconservative trumpists, republicans of all stripes of life elected trump to do, be it the border call or cutting spending or defunding planned parenthood, is is it going to be less than meets the eye? >> we've seen a republican congress that probably would like to rock the boat as little as possible. that's generally what politicians like to do. so are we going to see a president trump who is just a lot less mold breaking than we thought? >> and at some point does that affect the brand in the sense that you often hear it's more on foreign policy issues, but you hear don't pay attention to what the president tweets, pay attention what he does and what

we do. does he run that same risk with his own base? he still sounds disruptive. he says things that sounds like he's talking to his voters, but is he going to do things that gives what he promise. >> i think that's possible. he's shown the mastery of the rhetoric. i do think it's very interesting that after a bunch of years with a democrat in the white house to get blamed for everything when you have to run the government, you have to fund the government, you have to do things actively, republicans spent those eight years being able to, you know, stick to their principles, you know, nick mulvaney sticking to the absolutist budget kind of situation. now they're in a position where they're in charge. they have to fund the government. they have to raise the debt limit. they have to do the things that they could always blame obama on. and it looks like what they did here was cave a little bit on the principles so they could get the political win. >> to your point, mick mulvaney who considered themselves

reformers now has a boss who tells him i don't want to touch that stuff. >> >> just in speaking to trump supporters in the past week or so about this specifically because i was curious where they were coming down, i found a lot of forgiveness and a lot of leeway and a lot of giving hem the benefit of the doubt. this is the guy who knows how to do the deal and he's decided doing it later is the way to do it. now he's also the guy who said we're going to try to push this health care thing again wherein this town most people would have said don't do that. they did get it over the line. i think there's leeway. >> that's to come. >> the calendar gives you 2020. the question is i still don't rule somebody will challenge him in the primary. to your point that sometimes the difference between what he says and what the end product is, listen to the president yesterday in the rose garden on national day of prayer bringing religious e van yevangelical,

christian, catholic, using that important symbolism to sign an executive order lifting restrictions on political groups getting involved in activities. >> as we tawe will not allow pe faith to be targeted, bullied or silenced anymore. and we will never ever stand for religious discrimination. never ever. >> now, this event in the rose garden, before it happened, the aclu served notice that it was prepared to go to court as quickly as yesterday to sue. it said that what it expected to happen from the white house in the aclu's view was going to violent all sorts of

constitutional protections and separation of church and state issues. then they tweeted out we thought we'd have to sue trump today but it turned out the signing was an elaborate photo op with no discernible outcome. >> it was a big nothing burger. >> was is t? >> if you're a preacher, you can basically speak from the pulpit about what your politics are and i think most preachers do that already. >> it was an irs provision that was almost never enforced. >> most of the churches i've been to, black and white it's clear what the policy preferences of the preacher s. l the fact that he is standing in the rose garden, using the language of the church, using the language that evangelicals use, that's a victory for them. none of the polls suggest that white evangelicals are going anywhere. >> i do hear a lot of anger that this was something of a bait and

switch. the type of liberty they thought they were getting was from freedom of conscious for business owners, particularly when it comes to lgbt issues. this order had nothing to do with that. as the aclu said it didn't affect much policy at all. they really were expecting that's what they were getting that community has been very disappointed in past presidents wlr . so i think there is a risk for the president there. if they get disappointed again. and they gave him a lot of ground. a lot of people that voted for him had reservations and thought he would change things. >> they also got gorsuch but i do think there was disappointment on this front. they're not terribly unused to being disappointed on the religious liberty front because many don't go to bat for it. >> that's the question. the brand at some point doesn't suffer. we'll see. up next the president's first

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welcome back. president trump's first overseas trip will be an ambitious on. the apytrip includes stops in si arabia, isreal and the vatican. says his visit to the nation that is home of islam's two holiest mosques is critical. >> saudi arabia is the custodian of the two holiest sights in islam and it is there that we will begin to construct a new foundation of cooperation and support with our muslim allies. to combat extremism, terrorism and violence and to embrace a more just and hopeful future for young muslims in their countries. our task is not to dictate to

others how to live. but to build a coalition of friends and partners who share the goal of fighting terrorism and bringing safety, opportunity, and stability to the war ravaged middle east. >> no matter where you look in the world, if you look in the media, you talk to friends around the world, donald trump is the center of conversation everywhere. it's hard to project a trip where it hasn't happened yet, but this will be the first time he will leave the country. these are big annual events. global economic pressures going. going to saudi arabia, trying to talk to the muslim community about helping fight terrorism when he received a lot of pushback for the language he uses in that fight. a fabulous diplomatic moment to start. >> i think two things. one, i do think that there will be even more intense kind of focus on him and this moment given the rhetoric that he has

employed throughout the campaign and then, you know, with the travel ban and all. i thought it was interesting the white house did a briefing for reporters and a senior administration official, at one point this was just talk about the trip, and at 1.1 of the seen year administration officials referred to we feel an obligation to do this, right? this is what all presidents do. you covered a lot too. they all come into the oval office. they all feel an intense obligation to try to do something in the middle east, to try to figure out how to make the situation better. and i think to -- to some extent this is something they sort of felt like they have to do. i don't think any of them really have a good sense of what the result is, how they get -- not only how do they get from "a" to "z" but what "z" is. >> and so many of these issues have been the intractables to past presidents. whether it's the rivalries

within the neighborhood and the israeli/palestinian issues. >> i'm not confident there's a clear strategy here although i was pleasantly surprised by the rhetoric in some speech here where he's saying our muslim allies. and keeping it pretty low key. but you never wknow when he travels, he could be saying about what about letting the ladies drive. that's the nature of who he is. he's just a strange figure in that way. that will play out overseas as well. >> the rest of the world is still very much getting a customed to donald trump. to your point, foreign policy is the arena in which he has most scrambled the occasion. if part because what you say is what you do in foreign policy t.t. it's how diplomacy works. he so little enslaved you might

say to the nice tities. he has not performed in a way of what you believe the framework. there are clearly different factions even within his cabinet on these issues. and so i think a lot of foreign leaders just want some clarity and to the extent that they are able to have conversation with him where they can come away feeling reassured, that's good. the question is does he have the power. >> our friend writes about this. there have been much focus on president trump's erratic foreign policy, the many flip flops, the mistakes, but for more damaging might be what some have termed the trump effect, impact on the domestic policies of other countries. that affect appearing to be powerful and negative. could undermine decades. believing they could go back to more of a nationalist approach. >> and there's some suggestion that that's at play in this

french election. we'll see what happens with that. it will be interesting to see what trump learns from this trip. he talks about his conversations with it is chinese leader and how much he learned from that conversation. he's usually very open about, you know, what he learned in these conversations. so it will be interesting to see what he comes back with on that. melania trump, this will be her kind of debut on the world stage, too, as the first lady. that will be interesting to watch. >> keep an eye on that. that's at the end of the month. when we come back, we'll follow brexit. france picks a president sunday. presidents trump and obama, surprise, view the candidates differently. people confuse nice and kind but they're different. it's nice to remove artificial ingredients.

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. welcome back. france picks a president sunday. and the campaign is testy to be

polite. >> translator: i am talking about the party of the far right. the one that you lead. the party that spreads lies on social media which encourages hatred but less journalists who dispense brutality everywhere. >> we have never molested anyone. >> translator: you did on several occasions. at my meetings you have threatened and beaten people and i have experienced that. that is the truth, ms. la pen. so it is your party, the party of the far right which has no resemblance to our country. >> an interesting campaign. marine la pen is anti-european union pro union, pro putin. la kro lacrone, pro union. or you could look at this way. president obama is endorsing -- president trump won't endorse because such presidents won't do

such thing but he has nice things to say about la pen. will they get to the significant issues? i don't mean too be too snarky about it, but here's what president trump said in an interview about marine la pen. he said i'll work with whoever wins. but she's the strong oeest on borders. who ever is the toughest on radical islamic terrorism will do well in the election. clearly his sympathies, if not his personal endorsement, lie with marine la pen. president obama is a bit of a surprise. he's been relatively quiet when it comes to u.s. politics but here's what he thinks. >> i have admired the campaign that emmanuel macrone has run. he put forth values for the role that france plays. he is committed to a better future for the french people. >> he should have record today in french. i think it's kind of weird.

>> can obama be more influential than he ever was in an election in the united states? >> he's coming out. it looks like, i won't try to pronounce it in french, but i don't know why he's -- it sort of backfired with him and tried to transfer his popularity and so i think it's just kind of weird that he's in this election. but it does i think affirm what people -- the kind of framing of this donald trump versus barack obama. >> it's an interesting calculation. i agree with you on both ends. it looks weird so clearly on the one hand his campaign has made the decision that this helps him. they have tested it or something and they have found that obama's popularity is such that this gives them a boost. if it was going to be bad for him they'd ask him not to do it. and it's a very interesting calculation by obama as well. it clearly signals that he intends to continue to be a player on the world stage. perhaps in the mold of, like, a jimmy carter where he is going

to try to advance his sort of world view. because clearly the differences that you are articulating, and that trump was describing, this is a clash of world views. it is about the populace nationalist wave that many have described as sweeping the western world, sweeping europe. the question is has that wave crested or is it going to continue to sweep? and so this is a really important test. >> and is macron a test for this country who takes -- he started a new movement, essentially don't take the baggage of the established parties because we know from trump voters don't like. that can you sell establishment positions loon positions sloon positions as long as you have an outside label. >> it does make sense what obama is doing. he put this stricture on himself that he will will not get engaged with donald trump.

but this is where because of trump's sort of need to kind of stay neutral technically, obama can be out there and engaging some of these big topics without it looking directly like he's taking on trump. >> the good news is the french have never been known to take a religion too far. >> that's the last word. that's it for "inside politics." hope to see you sunday morning. she picks up after a quick break. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands.

. in for wolf blitzer. it is 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you are watching from around the world, thank you so much for joining us. we're keeping our eye on the white house briefing room. we are waiting for the briefing this hour. it's the first since house republicans won the vote on their plan to repeal and replace obamacare. we're going to take you there live as soon as it starts. and in the meantime, what is next for the bill? is a date with the senate. don't expect a quick resolution there. some senate republicans say it could be a month to a month and a half before they have a working plan of their own. joining me now from capitol hill is cnn congressional correspo