to get this right. >> in our country, the best change is that which is representing across the political spectrum. obamacare was jammed through by democrats. if we would have democrats and republicans come together on an american plan, that will work for the american people. by the way, i think cassidy-collins, which returns power back to the states, allowing blue states to do a blue thing. red states to do what's best for them, actually accomplishes that and that's why i'm partial to our bill. >> okay. senator bill cassidy, we will look forward to see iing that. lots of news this morning, so let's get to it. >> people believe the national security advisor could be blackmailed by the russians. >> that's a big question. >> why didn't he suspend general

flynn? >> the vetting process or someone working in the white house is far, far than a standard clearance process. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shut down of muslims entering the united states. >> he made clear he was not talking about muslims around the world. that's why this is not a muslim ban. >> this is new day with chris comeau and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your new day. it is tuesday, may 9th, 8:00 in the east. sally yates sounding the alarm, saying she repeatedly warned the trump white house that michael flynn was vulnerable to blackmail after he lied about his contacts with russia. >> we are also learning that former president obama personally warned donald trump after hiring flynn. why did it take president trump

18 days to fire flynn? let's begin our coverage. >> good morning. former acting attorney general sally yates tried to lay it out for lawmakers saying he warned about michael flynn's misstatements. >> we felt like it was critical that we get this information to the white house. we believed that general flynn was compromised with respect to the russians. >> sally yates warned about flynn's conversations with the russian ambassador. >> not only do we believe the russians knew this, but they likely had proof of this information. and that created a compromise situation, a situation where the national security advisor essentially could be blackmailed by the russians.

>> her testimony directly contradicting the white house's muted account. >> the acting attorney general informed the white house council they wanted to give, quote, a head's up to us. >> yates explaining she stressed flynn has engaged in problematic conduct just two days after president trump's inauguration. >> we told him they were giving them all of this information so that they could take action. >> but president trump didn't take action, waiting 18 days to fire flynn, only after flynn's false statement became public. >> michael flynn might still be but for the washington post report that chained them into getting rid of him. >> president trump attempting to down play the hearing, pointing to former director james clapper's testimony that he has seen in evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and russia before he retired in january. >> is that still accurate? >> it is. >> but clapper noted he was

unaware of the fbi's investigation until it was announced by james comey in march. president obama warned trump against hiring flynn just two days after he was elected when the two men met in the oval office. >> president obama made it known he wasn't exactly a fan of general flynn, which shouldn't come as a surprise as he was an outspoken of president obama's shortcomings. >> sean spicer continuing to blame obama for the trump administration's failure to properly vet flynn. >> if he was concerned, why didn't he suspend general flynn's security clearance? >> clapper challenging that saying flynn's high profile position would require expentive vetting. >> the vetting process for a political appointee or someone working in the white house is far, far more invasive and far, far more thorough than a

standard clearance process. >> but one question not answered that that hearing, whether sally yates warning were heeded. chris? >> all right, jessica. approach ka how much warning did the administration need and why weren't those warning heeded for 18 days? obama warned trump about flynn, telling him not to hire flynn. defenders of the president say he acted quickly. let's take a look at the time line and figure out for yourself what we're looking at here. okay? this is where it all starts november 18th, okay? michael flynn will be an invaluable asset to me and my

administration. by all accounts trump and his people went after flynn. it wasn't flynn seeking out a job here. then december 29th. this is then flynn discussions sanctions with the russian ambassador. and the idea was what were they talking about at that time? >> that conversation they did not discuss anything having to do with the united states decision to expel diplomats or impose a sanction against russia. >> they have this phone call. then in january we hear the vice president. the fbi calls in michael flynn. they talk to him about this. they remind him about his answer on sanctions. he says it didn't happen. they say, are you sure? he said i don't remember. the fbi winds up saying this report is maybe there won't be

charges. but sally yates believes there is something there and she goes and talks to the white house council and doesn't give a head's up. she says he could be compromised by the russians. flynn of course denies this and puts out a statement saying it didn't happen. he didn't talk about them. the spokesman said while flynn has no recollection of discussing sanctions, he couldn't be certain the topic never came up. remember, the washington post hadn't broken this story, would anything have been done before that resignation that we saw on february 13? that's the big question. let's talk about what we still don't know, which is this 18-day period we all keep talking about, right? if they knew and it wasn't a head's up and she said something like, don't forget we don't like him, us lefties or the obama administration. they say he could be compromised. let's talk about that.

>> we have chris cillizza, jeffrey tubin and phil mudd. what is the answer? why the 18-day lag and only when the washington post broke the story did mr. trump get rid of michael flynn. >> let me throw one other thing ton time line. donald trump does a press conference in which he talks about the conversation he had with don and says he was just doing his job. not a big deal. when it suggested unless don mcbegan pulled punches and didn't tell the president what sally yates told him, it wasn't just about doing his squlob. it is about not telling the truth about it, about the justice department having concerns that he was blackmail bait given what the russians knew about him. there is just a lot of questions there. we either have to believe that donald trump didn't -- was not told, didn't believe what he was

told or thought sally yates was lying or not telling the truth because otherwise there is no obvious solution for why it took so long, why in the wake of it he continued to defend michael flynn publically. he knew what yates told mcdltcg >> we also learned that president obama told president elect trump about his concerns of michael flynn and basically admonished him or at least warned him not to include michael flynn in the cabinet. >> and just one thing on that. sean spicer's spin is we all know that president obama didn't like michael flynn. okay. but president obama took a lot of incoming from lots of people over the years. i mean, this is not someone who is not used to people saying bad stuff about him.

that he specifically chose to talk to incoming president trump about mike flynn is not to me president obama settling scores about people who said mean things about him on twitter. it seems to be a higher level that he could raise it in that. it is a bigger deal than sort of a, well, mike flynn didn't like him and president on to be didn't like him. that spin doesn't make sense when it is a president versus incoming president conversation. >> what is your take, mud? >> i think it's simpler than that. i think there are explanations about the 18 days that are pretty straightforward. the first is these guys are brand-new and this is a huge potential scandal. they don't have experience dealing with national security information. they haven't seen the intelligent. they don't trust sally yates. that's a judgment about whether mike flynn could be blackmailed, not a fact. then we have a president being

so confidence in his judgment that he steps in it all the time. if you look at these characteristi characteristics, 18 days doesn't seem like that. i'm betting the president is saying, don't worry about it. i just him. he's okay. >> we don't know if president obama knew what kind of investigation was going on of michael flynn when he talked to him. we don't know if don mcgann communicated to the president. sources around the president suggest that they were all figuring out what to do about mike flynn. do you think part of the answer could be that every time they hear about russia, earmuff is go on and they don't pay it any mind? >> i think they certainly believe that every time russia comes up it is a political salvo. there is obviously a defensive crouch that the trump

administration has been in from the beginning. but let me add one point here, that we, as compelling as sally yates testimony was yesterday, there is still a hole at the center of it, which is the classified information that prompted her to go to don mcgannt white house counsel. what did the intelligence show that convinced her that flynn was subject to blackmail? that has not been declassified yet. and i think that is something that we're going to want to know before making judgments about whether the white house was d derelect in not firing him earlier. >> where does that leave us? where are we today after what happened yesterday? >> i mean, it seems to me the

ball is firmly in the white house's court. i take phil mud's point on this. and i think he's right. it is possible that this was simply, well, you know, sally yates, we don't necessarily trust her. it maybe took them some time to do some investigating of their own. although, i would note flynn was fired as a result of the washington post story uncovering this. but regardless of the reasons, the white house has to do more to explain the why. if it is that reason, if they wanted to conduct their own investigation, they should talk about that. they should say we wanted to pully examine this and make sure it was right. i was going to say, this is the fake news media. we didn't learn anything new. this is all a hoax.

james clapper exonerated us. that's okay for his supporters. but in terms of trying to get to the bottom of what actually happened here, that is not instructive or helpful in any meaningful way. they have to shine a light here. sally yates has had her say. what is the white house's explanation of those 18 days? and you have to be open to listening to it. >> the problem is not just michael flynn. the problem is there were lots of people connected to the trump campaign who had contacts with russia. it was carter page. it was paul manafort, jeff sessions. all of them had contacts with the russians. none of it has been fully explained at this point. so it is not like there is going to be one simple explanation. >> spicer has one. it's obama did it. flynn is obama's problem. he should have done it. and if he knew so much about these other investigations, they

should have done something. they didn't. it can't be that big of a job. and they gave the guy clearance in the first place. >> excuse me. i wish the president of the united states knew how the government worked. first of all, the former president fired him. the white house doesn't hold security clearances, the agencies do. president trump doesn't issue a security clearance. i got to tell you. let me echo what jim clapper said yesterday. i have been through multiple security clearances. i was re-cleared every five years and vetted during the white house process in 2009. it should be run by people like those involved in the trump campaign who are going into the white house. the white house process i went through is far more intrusive than the security clearance i received. they are asking questioning like whether i paid my taxes on my maid three years ago. the answer was i paid every tax, all the time and then i got rid of the maid because the taxes

were so complicated i couldn't figure it out. but my point is the president doesn't know what he's talking about it. >> thank you for always reminding us of how arduous the security process is. >> why does he need a maid? he lives alone. >> great point. that's the next segment. >> it casts a shadow on everything he said. >> how do democrats feel about what happened yesterday? what did they learn? we have a democratic senator who questioned sally yates and james clapper on next. our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something... set it free. see you around, giulia

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many years ago, an 18-minute gap trance fixed the country and got everybody's attention in another investigation. in this case, we have an 18-day gap between the notification of the white house that a senior official had potentially been compromised and action taken against that senior official's role. at best, the trump administration has displayed serious errors of judgment. at worst, these irregularities may reflect efforts that compromise or corruption at the hands of the russian intelligence. >> that is a senator drawing parallels between the trump administration and water gate during the dramatic hearing on russian interference in the government election. lots of information got brought out yesterday. what did it mean to the senate? let's discuss.

ranking member of the judiciary subcommittee on crime and terrorism. he was questioning yates and clapper yesterday. what did you learn? >> well, one thing we learned was that the interview of general flynn by the fbi took place in the white house, which shows a pretty high degree of predication. the fbi doesn't get to send fbi agents willy nilly into the white house. so that was interesting. the other thing we learned was the high degree of immediate alarm that that caused among the intelligence community and at the department of justice, causing the acting attorney general of the united states, even before the agent's full 302 report was completed, to rush up to white house council and say we've got something sensitive we have got to brief you on this. we discovered there was a second meeting with white house council the following day where they expressed further what their concerns were and off we go into this mysterious 18-day gap.

>> do you have any reason to believe that the president knew about the communications with the white house council? >> yes, because spicer, sean spicer has said that the white house council, after he first heard this from the acting attorney general went and briefed the president to use spicer's word immediately. >> so if the president knew, then we start counting until something happened. why do you believe that 18 days was too long? >> i think if you have evidence from the acting attorney general of the united states that a senior white house staffer may very well be compromise bd by t russians. at a minimum you fire wall that staffer until you get to the bottom of what is going on. you separate them from classified material. you don't let them make hiring decisions. you keep them out of sensitive meetings with foreign officials. you don't put them in the room when the president is on the

phone with vladimir putin. none of that is done. it is also not clear whether they did due diligence about this to look into it themselves. >> if whatever sally yates showed to back up her feeling that he could be blackmailed by russia was compelling, we don't know what she used to prove the threat of blackmail. do you know? >> she was unwilling to absolutely confirm it. but it's pretty clear, i think, from all of the evidence and from what director comey said just a few days ago that they knew that general flynn was telling everybody at the white house one thing about his conversations with ambassador kislyak and from the transcripts of those conversations, they knew he was not telling the truth. and they also knew that the russians knew that he was not telling the truth. and it was the russians knowing

that flynn was lying to everybody in the white house about this that gave him the leverage that could turn into compromise. and call up the -- >> what do you make up of a other things they knew, that the fbi in their interview with michael flynn reportedly had felt he wasn't lying to them, that he gave truthful answers and they didn't see charges coming that way and that the obama administration had renewed the security clearance for michael flynn. what do those factors mean, if true? >> not much to me. i think that the question of the interview and the 302 statement, i don't know if they actually went down and took up acting attorney general yates invitation to look at those materials, so i don't know how much they knew. but you had to know pretty quickly. what you have here is a transcript of the calls with

ambassador kislyak because they were reported and an fbi agent's 302, the investigation report that reported that flynn had said something completely inconsistent with the transcript. so what you have there is a slam dunk felony false statement case against michael flynn and the idea the white house wouldn't see that seems pretty improbable. >> by all indications, it seems that the white house is unable in terms of political perspective to separate efforts to tie trump staffers to russian collusion and russian interference in the election. they see them as the same. and i think as a result you wind up seeing a lot of these things being ignored by the white house because they seem like political attacks. what do you make of that? >> i think that's true. i think they may have seen sally yates warning as just a political attack and not seen the fact that she was there with

a serious national security concerned that she emphasized over and over again yesterday in the hearing. they're attuned more to defending the president than to taking care of national security business in an appropriate way. and that would help explain why for those 18 days, until the story appeared in the washington post and threatened to embarrass the president, that they didn't appear to take any serious action to limit this guy's access to classified information or sensitive meetings. >> yet, at the end of the day, do you have any degree of certainty that there was any collusion between any member of the trump administration and russia? >> there are so many different links between trump votes and the russians that it's hard to believe that nothing took place and there are lots of leads that need to be run down. but until those leads are run down, it would be impossible to

say. that's why i continued to investigate this matter so we know and can settle that question is so important. >> and you don't believe that the investigations have gone on long enough, that there should be proof by now? >> no. this takes time. let's say that the fbi has a cowop rc cowop ray tor. they need to debrief that person. they have to start to look down those leads. and they turn to other leads. it can take years for a full-on very well staffed and thorough fbi investigation to work its way through to conclusion. particularly, where there is such a broad array of evidence that needs looking into at this stage. i don't fault the fbi for not having rushed to a conclusion on this. they have a huge task in front of them. >> years. senator, thank you very much for coming on new day as always. >> my pleasure.

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so after the sally yates and james clapper testimony yesterday we learned a lot about michael flynn's firing. what happens next? where did yesterday's testimony leave us in terms of the investigation, knowing more and what is supposed to happen now. >> well, on the one hand, i think we understand that there is probably more to discover here about michael flynn and exactly what he knew and what he didn't know, what he told the white house and what he didn't and how that impacted the trump white house right out of the gate. on the other hand, i think democrats have to be careful here about collusion versus investigating russian meddling. this collusion deal could turn out to be a big white whale for them. they don't want to be talking about this in 2018 and how they are going to help people win seats. >> we heard from a senator that

knew the president knew because sean spicer said he was briefed immediately. that starts the clock ticking at 18 days and why did it take so long. here was his answer. >> but what i do know reasonably well is the president's personality about leadership and loyalty, how he thinks about his people and what he cares about. what i love about the president is he really cares about people first more than he cares about that sort of nonsense that goes on in the political arena. also i think -- >> to a fault here because this isn't we don't like flynn. >> i understand. let me finish. you're brand-new to the presidency. you have the opposing party railing on a guy that you think is super valuable to you, and, so, i think you are going to be caution. you are going to be patient and deliberate. >> do you think the white house was doing the opposite of what you just cautioned the democrats now to do, which was they heard

russia and they stopped thinking about what this could mean beyond a political attack? because they were conflating those two issues about russian contacts and potential collusion. >> i think that's what the white house has done repeatedly, taken a look at anything to do with russia in 2016 and decided it is an attempt to undermine the president's victory, which may be coming from certain democrats but i don't think saying russia meddled undermines the president's victory. it just says there is a problem here that needs to be taken care of. and this is an example in the president's transition from running a closely held family business when he had the liberty to show loyalty and take his time to running the united states government in which there could be national security issues if he doesn't move quick enough to replace problematic people. >> michael flynn wants immunity, as you know, from investigators.

so is there more? obviously he could reveal self-incriminating things about what he was doing with russia, but in terms of the political fallout, nothing after yesterday? >> well, look, i still think this is going to break down into partisan lines and i saw that yesterday and talking to different people. if you think trump is crooked, then they are going to get to the bottom of this collusion thing. one way or another, it needs more time and more energy and more focus. if you don't think trump is crooked, this is a big hoax and all you're trying to do is destroy donald trump. i think ultimately to me, flynn is a cancer on the trump white house. i don't care how loyal he was during the campaign and how important he was to trump. they haven't found any collusion. we do know that russia meddled. but we know that flynn is the source of all of these stories that causes trump so much heart burn, apparently. and i leave you with this in that part of the problem for

donald trump has been his problematic posture toward russia going back to the beginning of his campaign, all of which began to change after flynn was fired. now he takes a harder line with russia as it relates to the ukraine and the middle east. getting rid of flynn solved a ton of problems. >> but he is still the president of the united states. whether or not this is russia trying to meddle in the election. and you have to ask the question of whether or not flynn is a cancer or is he a symptom of a disease that that administration has. >> thanks for the bottom line. great to talk to you. >> all right. you have been watching the stock market. apple surging an all-new high. why? what could it mean for tax reform? are they connected? yes. the answer ahead.

is. apple is the world's most valuable company. the stock has hit another record high. why? what does it mean to the overall economy? chief business correspondent christine romans can answer that with numbers. what do you know? >> i know that apple is the first $800 billion company,

chris. after warren buffett said he nearly tripled his stake, the stock rose to an all-time high. apple having a great year. the stock is up 32%. just this year it has more than $250 billion in cash. think about that. just sitting in the bank. the snag, that quarter of a trillion dollars is mostly overseas and apple won't bring it back until one thing happens, tax reform. it is the only thing wall street cares about right now, guys. lower taxes could mean a flood of cash to stimulate growth. for example, these five companies, apple, microsoft, cicero, oracle together have more than half a trillion dollars combined sitting in bank accounts overseas. that money will probably stay parked abroad. >> fascinating and staggering numbers. thank you very much. so former president barack obama

is speaking at this very moment in a summit in milan, italy. he is expected to talk about climate change. so let's check in with nic robertson. he is in milan with more on this speech. >> reporter: yeah. i mean, it is a very relaxed looking president as well. i don't think we've seen him looking this way for some time, certainly not giving a speech to an international audience. what he's talking about here is giving the keynote speech addressing the issue of climate change and the need for sustainable, knew tranutritionay food. we think back to the happy, healthy, hungry free kids act of 2010, something that the food issue has been on the agenda for a long time. but the climate change issue and how the two couple together is

what this conference is all about here. the people organizing the conference hope that bringing president obama into the mix will stimulate at a higher level thinking and planning for the future with that climate change, with a growing population, with ska skarsty of food. climate change, one of his signature overseas achievements is something that's key to what he's doing here, something he understands very clearly president trump is opposed to. >> nick, good to have you there in milan. not a bad assignment either. so the bman on your screen also the author of a new buy yog gra fooe. it may suggest his marriage to michelle was a political calculation. is that true? the author joins us live next. i.

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there is a new biography out about president barack obama. it features accounts from his

ex-girlfriend and takes you through in a deep and long fashion the background of how he got to be in the seat of power. joining us now is the author of the new book "rising star, the making of barack obama." it is good to have you here. >> thank you. >> this is quite the compendium, the tone kol collecticollection things. >> nine years of interviews. >> what did the depth and time reveal? >> i think the most atonnishing thing is someone could serve eight years as president of the united states and a lot of important things in his earlier life never came out. most people have old girlfriends. he also wrote with his best friend and unpublished book manuscript in 1991 when he's in law school. talks about race. real insight into his political and intellectual.

he is bright. >> let's talk about his love life because that is kind of jui juicy. and we didn't hear much about it before. he sayou found a significant ol girlfriend, a woman named sheila yager. and she says he proposed marriage to her twice. for americans it is interesting to think there could have been a difficult first lady than michelle obama. you write the marriage discussions drags on and on. it was effected by barack's torment over this central issue of his life, the question of his own race and identity, the resolution of his black identity was directly linked to his decision to pursue a political career. tell us more about that insight and what she shared with you about their relationship. >> when barack is in chicago working as a community

organizer, that's his first emersion into the african-american community. he's working in a largely black setting, living with a woman who's half dutch, half japanese. they were involved for five years. it is a defining relationship in barack's life. and here we are only in 2017 is this really core experience of his finally becoming part of the historical record. and that's how i view this book. this is a comprehensive authoritative history of barack's entire political evolution. the man he was in illinois in the 1990s up through the early 2000s, very different political figure than who we ended up seeing as president and that evolution is the real story. >> they wrote it is odd he could seize on one former lover's

perfect. >> barack's years as a community organizer are very much the sort of font of his self-creation. he's creating himself both in black america, in black chicago. he also has this very deep, intense relationship with sheila. and it's during that relationship that his ambition to become a political candidate, to become president is first articulated. and it's so powerful to have multiple witnesses from that

time all attesting to what a crucial defining relationship this was in his life. >> some critics have not been kind. as you heard in "the new york times" review, they called it overstuffed and unfair. the unfair part they are referring to is they see you as a liberal progressive what was disappointed in president obama's positions and that somehow colored your review of his entire life and you couldn't see objectively. >> we have some people who bring their own partisan loyalties to how they react to this historical book, this historical record. barack, as president turned out to be very different from who he was in illinois. in illinois he had great relationships with extremely conservative republicans, more conservative than what we have today in the u.s. congress. and he had an ease of

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perfect. >> that's beautiful. that is such a nice gesture. >> what a gift. and, you know, look, you can hear this and say, why wouldn't you? people don't know somebody else. a wedding dress is a very personal thing. but she did it and made a memory that will last a lifetime. >> the queen of england can do something u.s. presidents cannot. she can still drive herself around. more on the queen of the road. >> reporter: one british paper dubbed her the queen of the road. queen elizabeth spotted driving her jaguar home from church. it is enough to make car loving american presidents jealous. president trump was the latest, i like to drive. i can't drive anymore. this is a guy who's owned everything from a ferrari to a

lam bergyny. with those riding shotgun, a cut las sierra was the car hillary clinton drove to the white house. >> last time i drove a car myself was 1996. i remember it very well and unfortunately so does the secret service, which is why i haven't driven since then. president clinton told ellen driving was the thing he missed most. george bush used to take angela merkel on tours of his ranch in his pick-up. sometimes the only way a white house occupant gets to drive is with the host of a comedy show. but president obama had to confine his 1963 sting ray joyride to the white house

grounds. >> i like the hand hanging over the wheel. >> yeah. >> james came to the white house to pick up michelle. >> so this is a treat. >> and jalen know gave joe biden an excuse to burn some rubber. the vp's '67 corvette. but these are the exceptions. usually these drivers are carried around like packages. cnn new york. >> i love to drive. >> me, too. time now for cnn news room with john berman and poppy harlow. >> we've got a lot of news. let's drive straight to it. >> state the obvious. you don't want your national security advisor compromised by the russians. those words part of