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he's the grand standard. >> director comey enjoyed broad support within the fbi. >> am i under investigation? he said you are not under investigation. >> i don't see that as a conflict of interest. >> i said to myself, trump and russia is a made up story. >> we cannot stop the men and women of the fbi from doing the right thing. >> if russia had anything to do with our election, i want to know about it. >> this is new day with alisyn camerota and chris quo cuomo. president trump contradicting himself and white house officials it turns out the reason given for firing james comey was fake. the president acknowledging he has russia on his mind when he got rid of comey after repeated
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denials from so many in his administration, including the president that it was the fbi's investigation into hillary clinton, not into his campaign that drove this decision. >> the president also for the first time detailing three conversations he says he had with comey about the russia investigation. the white house is struggling to keep up with what is growing chaos. it all but stole the president's agenda. let's begin with joe johns at the white house. joe, a lot to walk-through. >> that's absolutely right, poppy. plenty of contradictions and very important admissions eliminating almost any question about the motivations for the firing of the fbi director, at the very least. this latest interview is quite a look inside the mind of donald trump. >> i was going to fire comey, my decision. president trump changing the message again, saying now it was his decision to fire james
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comey, not the recommendation of the top two justice department officials. >> he made a recommendation. but regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey, knowing there was no good time to do it. >> contradicting days of statements from the white house. >> he provided strong leadership to act on the recommendation by the deputy attorney general. >> the president took the advice of the deputy attorney general. >> the president saying. >> he's a grand stander. the fbi has been in turmoil. >> and for the first time admitting the fbi's investigation into possibly collusion between his election and russia was on his mind. >> i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up store rhode island it is an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. >> a source close to comey saying he was fired over the
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accelerating russia investigation and comey's refusal to assure the president personal loyalty. the president was pressed about this paragraph in his letter where he claims comey assured him three times he was not personally under investigation. trump explaining how it transpired. >> a dinner was arranged. i think he asked for the dinner and he wanted to stay on at the fbi head and i said i'll consider it. we'll see what happens. so he said it once at dinner. >> did you call him? >> in one case i called him. in one case he called me. >> did you ask him, am i under investigation? >> i actually asked him. i said if it's possible, will you let me know. am i under investigation. he said you are not under investigation. >> isn't it inaprotoyat for the president of the united states to ask the fbi director directly, am i under
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investigation? >> no. >> the white house continues to change their explanation of why comey was fired. comey's interim replacement acting director andrew mccabe contradicting this statement from the white house. >> the rank and file from the fbi had lost confidence in their director. >> comey enjoyed broad support within the fbi and still does to this day. >> i don't believe there is a crisis of confidence in the leadership of the fbi. >> the trump administration suggesting that firing comey would help end the fbi's investigation into the russia's meddling. >> we think that we've actually by removing director comey taken steps to make that happen. >> something the acting fbi director vowed not to let happen. >> you cannot stop the men and women of the fbi from doing the right thing. >> the president claiming he wants answers on russia. >> there is no collusion between me and my campaign and the russians. in russia hacked, if russia did
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anything having to do with our election, i want to know about it. >> insisting he did not try to interfere with the fbi's investigation. >> did you ask him to drop the investigation? >> no, no. >> did anyone from the white house? >> no. i want the investigation speeded up. >> president trump also explaining why it took 18 days to fire michael flynn, even after acting attorney general sally yates met with the white house counsel to warn that flynn was vulnerable to blackmail by the russians. >> my white house counsel came back to me. it did not sound like an emergency. he didn't make it sound like he was -- and she actually didn't make it sound that way either in the hearings the other day, like it had to be done immediately. i think it would be very unfair to hear from somebody we don't even know and immediately run out and fire a general. >> trump defending flynn, who lied to the vice president about his contacts with russia and for
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concealing payments from foreign governments. >> this man as served for many years. he's a general. he's in my opinion a very good person. >> now, the time line on that dinner between the president and james comey is very interesting. "the new york times" reporting that it occurred one day after the acting attorney general informed the white house counsel that mike flynn had been compromised by the russians. meanwhile this morning, a little bit of news. we have a tweet from the president explaining the difference in information that's coming out between him, his staff and others. the president tweeting there is a very active president with lots of things happening. it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy. back to you. >> thank you very much. let's wring in our panel. reporter and editor at large for cnn politics, chris cillizza.
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abbie phillip and david drummer. i them thinking as i'm speaking here. i'm trying to make sense of this tweet. i've got to read it again. as a very active president with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy. help me on this? what does that even mean? >> that the fact that they have had 15 different stories about why james comey was fired is just the result of him being very active and busy. look, i know i say this all the time. i feel like i say the word remarkable 50 times in a show. but it is a remarkable thing when the president of the united states says, look, the official person who speaks for the white house on a daily basis, you can't expect them to be perfectly accurate in what they say, even though they are the
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voice for the united states because i do a lot of stuff. i'm a pretty busy guy. we are in different times, right? this is not something that normally ever happens. i mean, this is obviously the result of the fact he threw his staff under the bus with lester hoe holt. they spend 48 hours arguing saying the reason comey was fired was because of rosenstein's memo. donald trump took all of that explaining, threw it right out the window because he wanted to take the credit for it. the best thing about that clip you guys played at the top is when you said it was me, my decision, because he wants credit for it. he does not -- there is a part of him that refuses to give up, even if it's own political interest, refuses to give up that i'm the guy. i'm the guy sitting across the board room saying you're fired and that's what drives him. >> david, tell me i am wrong.
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i think even after chris cillizza's great explanation we need more help. am i wrong, or is this the president saying, yeah, you can't really trust everything out of the white house. >> that's exactly, poppy, what the president is saying. and this gets to the fact that he's running the white house like his closely held family business where everybody had to do what he said and basically he was the business. and, so, at any given time when he wanted to act or talk to the media or make a decision, it was all about him and everything resolved around time. >> standby because we have to get to this, the tweet that just came to the president. maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all press releases and hand out written responses for the sake of clarity. >> it assumes that the problem is somehow quantitative, you know, that this is about having too much. this is about telling
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the truth. the white house spun a lie about why james comey was fired to make it look like it wasn't about russia. it was about clinton and all the democrats hated how comey was with clinton, so this will be fine. and then for whatever reason, the president went on television and said that's not true. he contradicted every part of it. rosenstein's memo, i didn't care. i was doing this anyway. and i thought to myself, trump, what is going on with this russia thing? it doesn't make any sense. he's got to do. that's what it was about. when the media said that's what it was about, they got shouted down by the white house and the president made his people look like fools. isn't it that simple? >> right. this is reflective of a casual attitude about the truth in this wite house, that it is not as important to give the most accurate portrayal of the truth, but the most accurate version
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they want to give out at any given moment. what is amazing is it contradicts what sara was saying on the podium yesterday when she and other white house officials were telling me and other reporters that there is no daylight between what she said and what vice president pence said and what the president said in that interview. in some ways, you have to give trump a few points for honesty here because he's not even trying to pretend that there was any con grew washington nationals between the statements coming out from the podium and what he said yesterday. he's up front they were not the same, that sara sanders and other aids, including the vice president did not know or maybe did not speak accurately to the public. but, you know, i think that the problem here actually is beyond sara sanders. we have the highest levels of government. the vice president of the united states repeatedly being put out there, saying things that will not true. >> that part matters, by the
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way. he doesn't have to go out there and say things he knows not to be true, but he does and he does it with a earnest count and a lot of people believe him. sara sanders is doing partly that. but she's doing something else as well. for her to say that, oh, yeah, we think by getting rid of comey, we will speed up and this investigation done. no kidding. then she says, yeah, i don't think it was inappropriate for him to ask the director of the fbi whether he was under investigation. so you have a mix of her being told to say things that are not true and her not knowing what she is talking about. >> i think there is a tendency to feel some level of committee for the communications staff because donald trump -- david made this point -- he just says and does what he wants. so he says and does stuff and you have to scramble to try and fix it. then he may say and do other
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things and you have to try to fix it. if you signed on to join this white house, it is hard to imagine you didn't know what donald trump was like, right? i mean, it is not as if donald trump was deeply driven message driven candidate. he did this during the campaign. they knew what they were getting too here. same thing goes for mike pence. mike pence knew who donald trump was by july of 2016. everyone did. so they knew what they were signing up for. i'm not sure we should feel bad for them because they're getting in many ways what everyone expected would happen. >> well, and you know if you believe the president's latest tweet, perhaps they will have the afternoon off if he really does mean this. i hope not for democracy and journalism. but the presidency seems to be threatening that.
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i interrupted you, david, to get that latest tweet in. so finish your thought. >> fair enough. i think this is the president admitting he didn't tell people what he was doing and why he was doing it, which is the conclusion we have all obviously been able to come to here and he is trying to clean up what has been an unnecessarily dysfunctional firing of the fbi director when all they had to do was make this a deliberative process over the period of like a week to ten days. start to drop names of people that were going to replace comey and they could have made this about policy and about fixing problems at the fbi instead of making it all about donald trump. but this is the way he operates. the other thing i don't think we should leave on the table here, in firing comey, he has also been dragging jim comey through the mud unnecessarily, constantly referring to him as
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unfit and it does not help his relationship with his national security community to do that and even for people who are happy that james comey is gone, this is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. >> as the acting director, he still shares a lot of support at the bureau. but we've got to keep testing. we have to ask name koesmy, come on. we have to ask the president come on and do interviews. >> guys, thanks very much. we appreciate it all. we have brand-new sound from president trump's interviw and his answers to questions on the legacy of his presidency.
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we have new sound from president trump. this time it is not comey specific. he was talking about other things. he said in the future that the u.s. is going to do in afghanistan and the perspective of his legacy as the president. >> what is going to happen in afghanistan? >> well, afghanistan is always a difficult problem. it has been for many nations. there is no question about it. >> will you be adding more troops into afghanistan? >> we haven't made a decision. some people could like me to. >> do you feel like you are fighting for your legacy, that your legacy is under attack. >> the republicans are very, very much behind me.
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they love what we're doing on health care. >> some say what has been proposed is not great health care. >> now it's tt senate and they are going to change it around a little bit. it is going to come back to the house and we will end up with new health care. we don't have health care right now because obamacare is dead. so there is so many important things happening, so many important things and to be a part of it and helping people -- i'm helping people. i'm helping the people in this country. we had a group in the other day with poll numbers that were so good, so strong that if the election were held today, i would win by a lot more than i did on november 8th. >> wow. what a crowd. what a great -- look at this. >> do you miss the campaign? you seem to be in your element at the rallies. >> i liked it. but i like this even more. i love governing. i love creating great health care. i love the process.
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i love the management of it. i love the governing of it and i think we're doing a great job. >> in that same interview, the president also slammed his former fbi director james comey after firing him. >> look, he's a show boat. he's a grand stander. i also want to have a really competent, capable director. he's not. he's a show boater. he's not my man or not my man. i didn't appoint him. he was appointed long before me. but i want somebody who is going to do a great job. and i will tell you, we're looking at candidates right now who could be spectacular, and that's what i want for the fbi. >> let's bring in retired fbi chief of staff and counter terrorism analyst. nice to have you both here. the fact that in the span of the same like, you know, 15 seconds, one minute of the interview he
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says that comey is a show boater or a grand stander and then he calls the man, michael flynn, who is under multiple investigations a very good person. as a former member of the fbi, what is your read on that? >> i mean, poppy, is the irony lost on anyone? you have james comey and you contrast that with the president whose moral purpose tud was on full display in the campaign as well as in the past and it strikes me as detestable to hear that. grand standing, show boating. the fbi director is not worried about optics. politicians are. >> what is the balance because there was rightful criticism of comey for breaching protocol, for apparently politicizing the clinton investigation. it did hurt him with people in
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the agency. what do you think the true assessment is? >> well, a couple things. first i completely agree with james. i mean, there is a difference between saying the director of the fbi made mistakes. i've said that. saying an honorable man was dishonored by the president of the united states. if a seven year old goes to school you have lessons. be courteous to other students. don't mock other students. if you make mistakes, admit. the president is 0 for 3 on these. i got an e-mail a month ago from a dad. the dad said his 12-year-old daughter watches the show. she wants to talk. i said, is it okay if i called her. i called her and i'm still in e-mail contact with her this week. she sent me a question a few weeks ago. she said my mom disciplines me when i don't tell the truth. why doesn't the president do that. be polite to us and stop lying. i've had it. >> you know, it is an important
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point, what are children that are watching play out? the president was reportedly going to -- considering going to the fbi as early as today. he is now reportedly not going to go because of the perception he received. this is someone that pleaded the men and women that serve in our intelligence community to germany. what does it mean for the security of the nation and the trust the nation has in our intelligence community to have this rift between the president and them and his -- i mean, comey was out. he didn't need to use those words about him. what does that do big picture? why does it matter? >> poppy, what we need to do as viewers is say the fbi and department of justice, nothing is going to change. it is made of people that are career investigators, career prosecutors. nothing is going to change. the fact this has been floated out there, the president is going to visit fbi employers at
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headquarters, meet them, that was a photo op. if he wanted to work on the fractured relationship between the acting fbi director, he does that privately between closed doors. >> james, how is it not an issue in terms of who the director is in terms of the integrity of the investigation going forward? but you take your cues from the boss, right? and if the boss comes in and says, you know, we don't need more resources. you know what, james, start looking at these leaks. unless you get something that is really big, forget about that, let's focus on the interference. what would those men and women have to say? yes, right? >> i watched acting director mccabe testify yesterday before the senate intelligence committee and two emotions went over me. the first was immense pride in the men and women of the fbi he
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represents. the second is empathy because he has to deal with a wild card that i don't think any fbi director in recent history has had to deal with. fbi acting director mccabe is the kind of guy, and i have known him for 20 years, he is not going to let anybody push him in a particular direction. you saw that yesterday. he pushed back on some of the white house talking points. >> here is the thing. mccabe is not going to be the guy doing this. they are interviewing interim directors. he's not going to be the one and this is going to be at the selection of the president, a.g. sessions, et cetera. >> doesn't matter. if this investigation were initiated today, you would have an appropriate question. is it going to be initiated and cared through properly. if you think the dozens of people working on this are going to turn around and change their views and take it wherever it goes because a new director who happens to be the shield for the president of the united states walks in, that ain't going to happen. >> thank you very much for your service. thank you for being here with us
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today. how will james comey's out affect the investigations into any possible collusion between the trump campaign and russia? we're going to ask a congressman who is demanding emergency hearings about comey's firing. that's next. time's up, insufficient prenatal care. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. optum. how well gets done. but they're different.d kind it's nice to remove artificial ingredients. kind never had to. we've used real ingredients, whole nuts, and natural flavors from the very beginning. give kind a try.
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all right. president trump tweeting up a storm this morning after the initial story from the white house about why james comey was fired turned out to be fake and it turned out that way because the president directly contradicted it in an interview just yesterday. so there is a new tweet that deserves our attention. it says there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. democratic congressman joins us now. the context of this, congressman, would be that the president said in his initial letter something that was a bit forgotten in the moment. but wound up being the most relevant thing in the letter. the second paragraph where he said i asked comey and he told
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me three different times i wasn't under investigation. now, there is information coming out from those who know comey saying they can't believe he ever said that, that at this dinner that comey was pushed up to process his loyalty to the president and the president doesn't like those reckonings and now we see this tweet. what do you think about that? >> all of this is very shocking to the conscious and painfully painful to see what we're going through right now. first of all, for the president to invite director comey to dinner, and i know there is the president saying one thing and director comey is saying another. but then to talk about his tenure as director of the fbi and also talk about an ongoing investigation is just something
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that should never be done. and i think that anybody who does that, i think that's a real problem. there seems to be and i've said this several times before, that the president needed to back off the tweeting and concentrate on governing and back off the efforts to comment constantly on an ongoing investigation and let it move as it will. we have people who i know, many in the fbi, who are doing a great job. and i respect them and they're doing the best they can. but i've got to tell you, all of of this, the american people deserve better. that's why this morning i sent a letter the deputy attorney general, mr. rosenstein, asking
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him to look into the issue of whether we do need a special prosecutor and the question read whether there has been a true adherence to the recusal that secretary sessions said that he was doing with regard to the hillary clinton matters and to president trump congressional matters. we need to know exactly what the situation is. to be frank with you, i think right now at this moment, the key person in all of this is rod rosenstein, the deputy. >> that's a lot of pressure you are putting on him. first the president whether knowingly or unknowingly from rosenstein's perspective made him the hatchet man on comey with that memo, yes, we found out later the president didn't care about the memo, he was going to fire comey regardless. but now you want rosenstein to give an assessment on whether or not the attorney general is
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respecting his recusal. that's a lot of burden to put on someone who works for the ag, no? >> in our lifetime, chris, sometimes we don't go to the problem. the problem comes to us. and the question is whether there will be a sally yates or whether we'll be a clapper or whether we'll be a rosenstein. by the way, i know rosenstein. he served as the maryland u.s. attorney for over ten years. and even when president obama came into office, he kept him eight years in a deep blue democratic state. that says a lot about him. and he is a man of integrity and i really believe -- when i heard about this, i said this doesn't add up. this is not the rosenstein i know. and as i hear more and more, i am convinced. and when i heard, as a matter of fact, the president talk about the fact that he had made the
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decision to fire mr. comey when he had concluded that this whole russia thing was made up, i said that that sounds more likely. >> what do you think about the pressure from those among republicans and a lot of people in this country saying if there is proof of collusion we should know by now you should be able to show it to us and in the an sent of that it is proof that the president is right. this is all a hoax. >> yeah. these investigations take time. and you also got to keep in mind, chris, that we are dealing with foreign governments. we are dealing with the government of russia. and it takes years sometimes to untangle all of these things. i think when you look at what happened with flynn, who claims that general flynn who says that he has a lot to talk about.
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when you look at manafort, who may very well be cooperating with the authorities, i think some of these questions may soon be answered. and i think that justice is not always swift. a lot of us wish it was swift. but having practiced for many years, i have realized it can move very slowly. but justice does move. so i think the best thing is for us to allow the fbi and others to continue what they're doing, to look into this, let deputy attorney general rosenstein make his decision and move forward. one other thing, chris. >> yes, sir. >> one of the things that concerns me is that we've gotten almost -- we've gotten very little cooperation from the republicans on the house side. here we are sworn to uphold the
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constitution of the united states of america and protect its people. but we're sitting on the sidelines. nunes, i don't know what he was doing and then so he's out of the loop. when hillary clinton was being invested, he held six emergency hearings after comey had said she was not going to be charged, six. here we cannot even get the cooperation for them to issue subpoenas for us to get one document. he has one hearing. and i am saying to our republican friends help us do our job. this is not a republican issue. this is not a democratic issue, not even an independent issue. this is about the soul of our democracy and we are in a crisis of confidence and we have to address it.
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>> he did ask the inspector general to review the fbi's action in advance of the 2016 election and now he's asked him to take a look at the circumstances surrounding comey's dissisal. also your invitation to james comey to speak, that's more important than ever. he needs to clear up whether or not there was inappropriate discussions on his part. you always have new day as a platform to discuss our advances of these important issues. thank you, sir. >> thank you. i'm on it. >> thank you guys. back to this. president trump just threatened the fbi director in a new tweet this morning. after suggesting that press briefings should be canceled for the sake of accuracy, what is going on? david axelrod gives us the bottom line. t back to business. ♪ ♪
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she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. the trump white house is facing a major credibility crisis after accounts on why the president fired james comey. the president's tweets are raising more concerns. let's get the bottom line with david axelrod. he is the president going at it with unusual fervor this morning. what do you read in his efforts? >> well, we have seen him in
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this kind of mode in the past when things aren't going well. we saw after the republican convention he went on a terror. after the democratic convention he went on a terror. and obviously this has been a disastrous 48 hours for him. you know, i think he woke up this morning to different accounts of his meeting with comey than the one that he offered on tv and just enormous amount of discussion about what he has done to the surrogates who went out there to represent him, both his people who were behind the podium in the press room and the vice president carrying a story that he himself ended up impeaching. and, you know, he is undermining his own -- not just chris credibility, but the credibility of everyone around him. but i think he is reacting to all of this negative media. donald trump likes nothing better than to be called a winner and he's losings right now and he doesn't like it.
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>> david he tweeted minutes ago that james comey better hope there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. it is a direct threat to, you know, the man who ran the fbi a few days ago. why concerning is it? why should that be a concern to the american people? >> i think the bigger concern is the nature of that meeting, the fact that he apparently called -- he sort of fudged on the interview as to who made the information or who asked for that dinner, but he apparently invited the fbi director over and he asked him point blank, am i under investigation, which is highly improper. but the other thing was he asked for his loyalty, according to at least the reporting that was in the times this morning. what does that mean for the next fbi director? is there going to be a loyalty test and how is the public going to have confidence in the integrity of that person if this
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is the test that donald trump is applying. so i think we're used to these kinds of tactics, the tweet we saw this morning aimed at comey. i'm not sure comey is going to back down as a result of that. i'm quite sure he won't, given his history and his nature. but the larger implications for what this means for the integrity of the fbi, the criminal justice system is really -- the problem with the president is he spent a year flouting laws, norms, rules and the truth. and that's one thing when you're running the trump organization. it is another thing when you are president of the united states and a trustee of our democratic institutions, a trustee of our institutions who doesn't even gender trust is really bad for our country. >> one thing is for sure, james comey has to talk. you know, forget about the political implications and that of his own reputations. we have to know from his perspective, were you asked to
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give assurances about the president being safe from this investigation. did you offer those. why would he? that could be inappropriate of that director. that affects his reputation as much as anything the president has said here and it gives you a window on whether or not you can trust the white house to stay away from this investigation. if you can't, it raises a legitimate question for rod rosenstein about maybe you do need a special counsel. maybe you do need an entity that can't be called to dinner. >> yeah. no. i mean, i think the president has talked himself into a deeper and deeper hole in the last couple of days and there is going to be growing momentum. certainly comey is going to be called before congress and he is going to be asked to speak. when he feels he can and cannot speak to, we will see. that's part of the controversy that he's created. but i will say this. i was as critical as anyone of jim comey for the way he handled
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some of these matters during the election. but, you know, i had some exposure to him or certainly to his reputation when i was in the white house. i don't think that he's someone who takes his responsibilities lightly or his institutional responsibilities lightly. and the account that the president gave of that conversation doesn't square with a person who we have read about, that we have seen and who i heard about when i was in the white house. >> and he didn't just say this was one conversation. this was three separate conversations. >> it shows an intent to monitor and influence the reckoning of this investigation with respect to his own interests. >> and he said one of those phone calls was comey called him. your final thought, but also tell us what's coming up tomorrow night, a special ax files tomorrow on cnn. >> yeah. with my ax files podcast on tv on cnn with governor gary brown
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of california. i always joke when i started in politics i've been in poll sicks to long that jerry brown was governor of california when i started. he's governor again. he was the youngest governor or one of them in america in 1975. and he is the oldest governor in america today. and he has an extraordinary career and vantage point on history and a good story to tell about california right now that is in contrast to the story we see here in washington. so we had a really interesting conversation and i look forward to others sharing it. >> look forward to seeing it. >> and the timing couldn't be better. you need people who understand the same the way ax does. thanks for being it was, brother. >> have a good day. >> be sure to watch the axe files. two officers responding when a murder suspect posted video of a
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telling their story to cnn. this week's beyond the call of duty. take a look. >> reporter: it's a lot quieter right now. this is the first time pennsylvania corporals have returned to the spot where they helped stop a cold-blooded killer. >> when mr. stevens was allegedly in our area and on the loose, everyone was concerned. >> reporter: for two days, the entire country looked for steve stevens, a cleveland man who killed a 74-year-old strapger on easter sunday and then posted video of the shooting on facebook. >> i thought of the fact he had already taken one life and bragged about taking others and was going to take more. >> reporter: an employee spotted stevens at this mcdonalds and called 911. it was directly across the street from where davis was on a break. >> we saw the vehicle, the white force fusion drive by. he pulls over and he start to
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pull in behind him. >> what were you thinking? >> if he's giving up, i don't know if he's going to sur roendroend er or he know this is is the end of the road and he's not going to go peacefully. as we're about to come to a stop, he takes off again. >> reporter: the chase continued for two miles. >> i shot out around these guys and had an angle on his vehicle and i hit the back left corner of his car with the front of line. that spun him around. >> reporter: it is a tactical move called a pit maneuver. van horn says he's never had to rely on it. but with the help of boxing stevens in, the chase and nation-wide man hunt ended. through all the commotion, stevens look his own life. >> i think it was his intention to die that day, whether by his
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hand or ours. i know the family wants closure. we would like to have apprehe apprehended him as well. i try to remind myself of the human side of all this, but that it's my job but i still have feelings, too, and my heart goes out to those folks. >> thank you all for being with us on this very busy morning full of news. good to be with you. >> always, always. cnn news room with john berman missing the big star this morning, but still plenty to cover. it is going to start right after this quick break. they're headlines. stay with cnn. before you invest in a car, remember, it's not just the car you're investing in. subaru. kelley blue book's most trusted brand and, now, lowest 5-year cost to own. think about what you value most.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning, everyone. the breaking news this morning, the president of the united states just threatened a man he hired as fbi director. there will be people saying this is donald trump being donald trump. he says things on twitter. but this is the commander in chief threatening a man who is leading an investigation into the president's own campaign, an investigation that is still ongoing. the president just wrote james comey better hope there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. i want to bring in jessica in our washington bureau. this has to do with apparently calls for pledges of loyalty and also claims from the president that he was
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