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something as simple as purchasing a mat. >> to find out more about the welcome project how you can buy a well mat or nominate a cnn hero g going to cnn heroes.com that's it for us tonight thanks for watching happy mother's day everyone. and happy mother's day, mom. love you. rp he. good evening thanks for joining us what would you call a day in which the president of the united states issue as anyonely veiled threats against the man he was fired while that man was investigating him for improper russia i ties what would you call the day he denies demand ago royalty plenl. he remember denies records dfrgs attention in the office. imt all let pesky daily press brefrpgs smud disappear what wau cowl that day. around here we call it friday began with the president tweeting this about the fired director which took place the day sally yates warned the white house again that the president's national security adviser waste vul they were abel to black name
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the president tweeting jaems comey better hope there are no tapes of conversations before he starts leaking to the press. the implication eye the president do have tapes. now at issue whether or not the president demanded director comeyy's loyalty prum mri to himself here is what he told fox news ace jean on a in a interview just released >> did you ask that question. >> no i didn't. but i don't think it would be a bad question to ask. i think loyalty to the country, loyalty to the united states is important. you know i mean it depends on how you define loyalty. number one, number two. i don't know how that got there. because i didn't ask that question. >> what about the idea that in a tweet you said that there might be tape recordings. >> that i can't talk about. i won't talk about that. all i want is for comey to be honest and i hope he will be. i'm sure he will be i hope. >> the president not denying he records white house conversations more did his press secretary when asked directly more on that shortly he was asked about how surrogates
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including vice president pence all put out a account of the comey firing that turned out not true. we know it was bog us because yesterday the president offered a completely different account here is how he addressed it. >> are you moving so quickly that your communications department cannot keep up with you. >> yes that's true. >> so what do we do about that? because. >> we don't have press conferences and we do. >> you don't mean that. >> well just don't have them unless i have them every two weks and i do it myself. we doesn't have them i think it's a good idea. >> first of all you have a level of hostility that's incredible and it's very unfair sarah huck a bee is lovely young woman. you know sean spicer. >> um-hum. >> he is a wonderful human being he is a nice man. >> today that nice man president picked up the topic how and why the white house was caught up in its own spin cycle. >> i think he is a little displayed as well as a lot of people that we come out here and try to do everything we can to provide you and the american
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people with what he is doing on their behalf what he is doing to keep the nation safe what he is doing to grow jobs and yet we see time and time again an attempt parse every little word and make it more of a game of gocha as opposed to really figure out what the policies are, why something is being pursued or what the update is on this. i think that's where there is a lot of dma. i don't think it's something that just alone the president feels. >> well keep in mind it is a little rich just generally that the president chief spokesman is complaining about being held accountable to what he says especially about something so freightwood the controversy as the charge firing a guy in charge of investigating himself and associates. it's something to hear just hours after scene sean spicer and so many others as including as we said the president of the united states spent nearly two days putting out what with he know were phoney talking points on why director comey was fired. . >> president trump made the right decision at the right time. and to -- to accept the
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recommendation of the deputy attorney general. >> the president accepted the recommendation of his deputy attorney general. >> he took the recommendation of rod rosenstein the deputy attorney general. >> he brought the recommendation to the president that the director of the fbi should be removed. >> look i think when you receive a report that a is so clear and a recommendation by someone like the deputy attorney general you have no choice but to act. >> he provided strong leadership to act on the recommendation of the deputy attorney general. >> he is taking the recommendation of his deputy attorney general. >> and i'm perm am grateful that we have a president who is willing to provide the kind of decisive and strong leadership to take the recommendation of the deputy attorney general and the attorney general to remove an fbi director who had lost the confidence of the american people. >> well that was the drum beat. kellyanne conway with me the vice president sarah huck mae sanders the white house even gave aus time line on paper pushing the phoney narrative.
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as you can see there was no game of gocha to use the word sean used today. we report to do. the president said it was something else entirely we reported that what apparently bothers sheen spicer and we and soems others doesn't take a rocket scientist notice the difference between the two and reported that more on a busy day from jeff zeleny. jeff you've been following the twists and turns. what is the latest right now. >> anderson as we end the week here there are so many questions still hanging offer the white house. one is the question of credibility of course. one is the question of who the next fbi director is going to be. but we're doing some new reporting tonight. talking to so many people here in the west wing. a top adviser to the vice president says he was quota little rattle the by what happened this week was taken unaware by the president's sudden change in story line here but now the question tonight is does the president have recording -- a recording system in the oval office? is he recording some phone calls he is making? this is what sean spicer said
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about that today. >> did the president record his conversations with former fbi director comb. >> i assume you're referring to his -- the tweet i've talked to the president the president has nothing further to add on that. >> why did he say that? >> why did he tweet that what should we interpret from that. >> as i mentioned the president has nothing further to add. >> are there recording devices in the oval office or the residence. >> as i said for the third time nothing further to add on that. >> does he think it's appropriate to threaten someon like mr. comey. >> that's not a threat. he simply stated a fact the tweet speaks for itself i'm moving on. >> sean spicer may be moving on anderson but the reality here is that question hangs over the white house. there is reason to believe tonight that the president intentionally sent that message out this morning to sort of create a bit of diversion as he has done before for several times over the last four months or so to try and change the story line we do not know
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tonight if he does have a recording system. he talked about in previous sort of stations of his lives how he likes to record phone calls back when he was the at trump tower et cetera. this is of course an entirely different matter np this would be nixonian if he is recording phone calls. certainly alarmed democrats on capitol hill senate democrats house democrats sent a letter to the white house. the office here the chief counsel sheer and said look if there are recordings must turn them over this is part of something we would like to know about here. at the end of the day we'll find out going forward if this is something the president just short of throughout as a diversion or actually recording these conversations. but the director with the fbi director said look i have nothing to hide. he told our own pamela brown our pamela brown about he has nothing to hide. the reality will the white house release those tapes if if serves their interests? at this point they're not saying but i can tell you anderson at the end of this week an
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exhaustion over in west wing and simply wondering how they change the subject and move forward. >> jeff, you've covered politics a long time. president said said in the interview released on fox he is so fastest moving that none of his spokes people can keep up and get all the accurate information. and that's -- it seems the idea that's why there is inaccurate statements being made by his spokes people because he is so fast moving he is like the fastest moving president in history they can't keep up and get the facts, even though he does seem to have an awful lot of time on his hands to watch an awful lot of tv probably more than any president in certainly really modern -- well probably since tv was invent sflood no doubt about it. >> this idea that he is so fast moving they can't even pin him down to get facts from him and get the stories straight does that make any sense. >> it doesn't. it's not fast moving as much as changing his mind. he is minute by minute hour by hour certainly changing there is
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not a long-term strategy for any of this. if there was a long-term strategy to replace james comey as some advisers here have said they would have had a replacement immediately. they would have announced someone the next day and that would have changed all of this. but people here do one top white house adviser speaking to me confidentially called him the hurry up president he said it's filled with risk and reward. this week we have seen the risk in that because they did not have a strategy going forward here. so the end of the day, was he throwing his staff under the -- the bus if you will or offering them a life line in some people saw it differently here. he may be right that he -- it's impossible to be accurate when he is constantly changing his mine because the person who writes the narrative the story line is him. in fact he is changing his mind a lot. a lot of staffers here the morale was very low he talked to people individually tonight "i" told earlier today to try and build them back up anderson, the reality is one thing not
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discussed this week afghanistan, his legislative agenda any of that. now all of that is bogged down in this james comey firing. >> jeff thanks very much. he a moment ago you heard sean spicer trying as he put it to parse every little word his phrase rather than he seems to believe ket get at the truth. you can make the case both he and the president did that today suggesting former director of national intelligence james clapper have cleared team trump. cnn national the security correspondent has the reporting on thatment i want to read jim exactly what the president tweeted this morning he wrote when james clapper himself and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt says there is no collusion when does it end? but that's not true, right that is not what james clapper said. >> it's not true. it's not what james clapper said let's be clear. not just what james clapper stayed in interview today but in testimony before. i've spoken with him about this directly many times. one he hasn't said there is no evidence of collusion. he said there is no conclusive evidence and he has made it
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clear he would not see the whole range of evidence because he was the head of the intelligence agencies he left issues of law enforcement, criminal matters to the fbi, particularly issues that involve u.s. citizens because that's the way the law works. listen to james clapper today. s. >> so i left it to the judgment of the fbi and that was certainly the practice i followed here. but that was consistent with what i did during the whole six and a half years. so it's not surprising or out of -- or abnormal that i would not have known about the investigation or even more importantly the content of that investigation. so i don't know if there was collusion or not. i don't know if there is evidence of collusion or or not more should i have. in this particular context. >> and you were not intending to clear -- to convict or clear anyone of exclusion it just was outside of your scope. >> that's correct. >> the white house in effect is
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cherry picking a misunderstanding of clapper's comments. and keep in mind anderson you and i talked about this before. you have the fisher director i testified under oath that collusion is still being investigated not to mention the senate and house intelligence committees and democrats and republicaningsen oh both committees saying still open question. still something they are investigating. >> and jim the "wall street journal" i saw just before wint on air post-ed a story that a treasury department unit focused on money laundering is sharing financial records with the senate intelligence committee to aid in the investigation to possible ties between the trump campaign and russia. what are the implications of something like that. >> it's potentially significant. we reported earlier the senate intelligence committee had asked this department of the department of treasury for this information. and it's key here. their peshlty is money laundering. they are experts at tracking the money, following the money in effect. they do it in terrorism cases do it in money laundering case if
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there is a there there in terms of unseemly financial interactions between trump associates, trump himself and russia there is a group that could find it ands in the group. turn over the records and the committees and the fbi will see where that information leads. >> and we should point out it doesn't mean there is a there there. it just means this is the committee that would find it if there was. >> exactly right. and they are in effect fezing up. providing documents if there are documents that provide evidence of that. >> jim sciutto thanks when we come back more breaking news the justice official overseeing all this weighing on the calls for special prosecutor later was sally yates's warning to the white house connected to the alleged loyalty demand to comey hours after yates repeated her concerns. we'll investigate. >> okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it.
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. a lot to talk with the panel including jeff and i willny reporting that the vice president was in the word of zeleny's source rattled by the events of this we can. staff morale at the white house is low yet more breaking news tonight. this time from the much rod rosenstein. did i get it right? yes. i did got it right i'm sorry. all week he tells cnn he doesn't yet see a need for a special prosecutor in the russia probe. once source telling us he is not inclined to make change unless the fbi vex als to be imperilled
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back thement kersten power aimed carpenter be jeffrey toobin phil mudd backup the whole notion of tapes in the white house. obviously we have been done this road before. is that legal now? it's certainly legal and i think as a matter of course every president tapes phone calls with foreign leaders for example. i mean i would think err responsible not to. what did about every day conversations? this is something could be cleared up very easily it would be an interesting test of how serious these investigations are. have the mouse and senate committees write a letter send us a subpoena, have the fbi in their investigation send a subpoena for any tapes that exist that are relevant to the investigation. the supreme court in 19749 to nothing said the president would have to answer a subpoena like that. so in question can be answered this doesn't have to be a mystery. but the committees have to show
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they're serious in order to find out that answer. >> i mean we haven't talked to you this week or at least i haven't. the end of in week how do you -- where are things in more your mind. >> here is what i'm reflecting on the president asked jim comey about loyalty. everyone in the republican should be asking about loyalty whether they are loyal to the office as a figure or the oath of office all officials take to uphold the constitutes constitution we're no longer in the world of binary choice between president trump and hillary clinton i see way too many fence sitters all over the media on the republican side want to take the position we're antiliberal. they can't defend donald trump on the merits. they blame liberals blame the media they say you can't understand the situation unless you live in a one stoplight town in middle america and you have to believe the best about what might be in his haernt what he says on twitter every day. this is ridiculous. it's not tenable. and republicans if they -- just
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now that we know president trump in the early days of his presidency had din we are fbi director james comey it's worth a look to what was else was going on the tomb time line of two days in particular has gotten more significant. >> the warning came january 26th from then acting attorney general sally yates. to white house counsel don mcgahn. >> i called don mcgahn first thing that morning and told him i had a sensitive matter i needed to discuss with him. >> a sensitive matter concerning national security michael flynn who had just been interviewed by the fbi at the white house two days before. yates warned that flynn hadn't been forthcoming about conversations he had had with russian ambassador sergei kizlyak about u.s. sanctions during campaign 2016. eye. >> that created a compromise situation, a situation where the national security adviser essentially could be blackmailed by the russians.
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>> after yates's warning. >> the president was immediately informed of the situation. >> on january 27th. process. the day after her yarning yates testified she returned to the white house for a second meeting with mcgahn. during that meeting yates said mcgahn asked her if he could look at the evidence that had her so concerned about general flynn. >> the date of january 27th is key. and here is why. president trump has now revealed that he had dinner with then fbi director james comey on that very same evening. january 27th at the white house. a private dinner soon after the president learned that his nsa director was being investigated for ties to russia. >> his interview with nbc the president said he can't remember who called the dinner. but new cnn reporting reveals comey says it was at the president's request. so was the timing of in dinner just a coincidence? what exactly had the president been told that the department of justice and fbi had learned?
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and would it have been enough to trigger a dinner at the white house and a test of loyalty? trump apparently had a few questions of his own for the man leading the russia investigation. >> i said, if it's possible, would you let me know, am i under investigation he said you are not under investigation. >> randi kaye cnn new york. >> the president flipcharted in a interview with lester holt he asked jamie comesy he was under that investigation. sean spicer. >> did the president ask the -- the white house counsel whether it would be appropriate to ask such a question given that it was against generally justice department guidelines to indicate whether or not investigations are ongoing against any individual let alone one at the white house. >> i don't know i will tell you i know several legal scholars, including allen dershowitz and others you had said there was
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nothing. >> if only we could find legal scholar allen dershowitz. thankfully he is with us and cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey tuber >> we heard sean spicer is that accurate do you believe the the president has been completely appropriate in dealing withes james comey. >> everybody wants to know they're under investigation every time i i have a contract i try every way to find out whether they're under investigation. i know they're not supposed to tell me that doesn't mean i shouldn't try. and sometimes they do give me hints for example they'll say well if i haven't gotten a target letter then ushld know he is not a target. or if you've gotten a subject letter -- you know so you do get information but the president is different of course the president also a. >> also at a dinner where according the president james comey basically saying he wants to stay on i guess that adds to the dinner of i would like to stay on in my job you know are you loyal to me a am i under investigation? >> well he is not -- at that point if he is under
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investigation he is not going to say, no you're not under investigation. and i want to keep my job. he is just trying to find out a fact. and presumably he did not find out that fact at least other than the most general terms. i suspect what happened is that comey did say something like, you haven't gotten a target letter you're you are a not a target the president then interprets that as i'm not being investigated look we had a tape of this i don't thinks in taped. i think the president is bluffing if we had a tape about this i thinked you would hear words like loyalty. you would hear words like investigation. but you'd hear words that each side could easily interpret in a somewhat different way. >> but i just think ---en a i don't know what was said. but it was inappropriate for the president of the united states to ask the director of the fbi whether he the president was under investigation. period. it is just an inappropriate -- first of all there is -- and an
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established policy going back to the days of jimmy carter about how much a president or any white house official is allowed to know about pending white house investigations -- about pending criminal investigations. that is -- i mean that's been followed by presidents as a matter of course for decades. but think about it this is not some defense attorney asking about his client. he is the boss of the justice department for which jim comey worked that's. >> you don't make that. >> that's what's so inappropriate for you that's not. >> it's relevant. it doesn't turn it into a crime. it doesn't turn it into a -- a specific ethical violation. should he have done it? if he had asked my advise i would have said have your lawyer ask about it have white house counsel have your personal lawyer ask about it it's better you not have the conversation. >> when you you is a the tweet from the president today tweeting what some interpreted asset a threat against director comey basically don't be leaking there may be tapes james comey
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better hope there are no tapes of conversations before he starts leaking to the press. >> i don't see that as a threats. everything is so overblown let's go back to the blackmail this whole blackmail ning is utter nonsense this they were afraid flynn was going to be blackmailed that's east 80 sally yates g guess to flynn and say by the way we know that you had this phone call with the russians no more blackmail. it's over. so why are they talking about blackmail why are they putting the responsibility on other people it's the easiest theng to indiana the blackmail you just tell him the russia beens have nothing over him. >> that tweet is a good example how we are normalizing behavior that would have been seen as completelily outrageous from by any other president. i don't know if you want to call it a threat. i think it's certainly a taunt. >> it is. >> it's inappropriate for a president to behave that way towards one who was until 48 hours ago a very senior government official. i don't know what -- i mean also he is -- he is essentially
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challenging all of us to ask about whether the tapes exist. i mean it's just inappropriate for whatever. >> it's foolish because it opens the door to. ises. >> look there are so many foolish things he has done if the president has called comey i hadded in said you know how how much i admire you you were in a terrible position either you way you did the clinton thing you would have disqualified yourself from further service i have to plieltly ask you to please submit resignation many comby would have been done it no story. >> as an attorney if you were advising the president would you advise him to stop giving interviews stop talking public will the fiv. >> absolutely take his tweet, tweet- dsh twirt account but you won't lnlz. >> clients to listen to lawyers. >> other chts would simply sar look there is an ongoing fbi director investigation we are cooperating fully. we want justice to run its course and that would be the end of it. >> no that won be the end. they would do that publicly and then they'd have the people
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surreptitiously try to find out what's going on. but also this is an example of how different donald trump is from other -- from other presidents. now if you were donald trump you are going to say to yourself you know what i got to elected president of the united states by bafrg in way where everyone told me that you can't say this stuff about megyn kelly. you can't say this stuff about john mccain. and i am who "i" not changing. it's worked out pretty well. >> professor good to have you jeff toobin as well the president's threat about possibility of taped conversation or threat or comment isn't the first time we've heard about white house recordings take a look at how former presidents ran the tape recorders and when and why that was shut down next. from your ph. a few weeks ago, you still didn't know if you were gonna go. now the only thing you don't know, is why it took you so long to come here.
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as we've been reporting the cht of the united states has threatened to fired fisher director with possible tapes of ard rowing many something a source tells comey is not worried about if they exist. this is the nirs time secret recordings have been a parts of history. it's a first time the specter of tapes has been raised on twitter. brian todd has more.
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>> former white house staffers tell us the technical capability exists for the president to tape phone conversations. but that's different from a built in white house taping system. president kennedy used one as did president johnson. here trying to convince someone to be hayes campaign manager. >> any way you want to do it but i want you to do it. >> among nixon's legendary recording a 1972 oval office conversation on how to push back on the watergate investigation. >> what the hell did mitchell know about this thing. >> this one is often referred to as the smoking gun tape. >> that white house taping system was shut down in the summer of 197 at the height of the watergate scandal. >> the american people, press or the media didn't know anything about the taping systems. until alexander butterfield a white house aide in july of 1973 told the senate watergate committee -- told the staff that tlfrs a taping system.
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at that point richard nixon had the opportunity to destroy the tapts he decided not to. >> nixon was asked about that in a 1980 interview with absent aesz barbara walters. >> are you sorry you didn't burn the tapes. >> you know interestingly enough everybody in europe that i talked to said why didn't you burn the tapes? and the answer is i probably should have. >> as for the one-on-one dinner between trump and comey at the white house former staffers tell us they don't know of any built in systems in the dining rooms to tape conversations they stay the president could bring in a recording device or have an aide take notes on the conversation but it's unlikely he would. could comey have taped the phone conversations on his end? we got no comment from the fbi. former top broi feshls tell us that would only be allowed if the president himself was under investigation which trump says he is not. and if the fbi chief got a warrant to tape him. >> i cannot imagine that happening. the fbi director does not tape conversations with the president or members of the hill or staff
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members. i cannot see that happening. >> if there are any tapes of president trump and james comey recorded at the white house, there is now significant pressure on mr. trump and his team to produce them. this letter was we just obtained from democrats and conconier and elijah cummings of to you oversight committee ises is calling on the white house to turn over any copies of recordings, emails any communications between president trump and james comey in this matter so far no comment from the white house on this letter. >> brian todd thanks. >> presidential historian and rice university history douglas brinkley obviously there have been taping systems in the white house before. it would be unique to have not only sitting president tape the fbi director over dinner dinner but -- unique to have this raise the specter of it in a tweet. >> the key about mixon was that he developed a voice activated system. it would pick up things all over
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sfwla any oval office. >> you also hear drinks being stirred and people walking. it was that ewe big-ticketous in the nixon white house. he didn't do any taping in '69 none in 70 but by 71 he started thinking i better start making tapes. >> he want to do for history sfwlp winston chfl he was thinking i'll do the 10 volume history he thought it was a nest egg for himself and ammunition against people he didn't like somebody who said he said something. he'd say i have the transcript a little bit by trump did he wanted as ammunition against people who met him. it's plausible that donald trump wugd his dinner knowing the stakes were high as head of the fbi. it seems to me like a bluff. he would have had to put a taping system in very, very quickly and ma made it a priority here. >> there would be nothing illegal -- i talked to the professor about this it's not
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a -- two party consent state of florida if he was recording something in florida he would have to have the consent of the person recording. washington and new york you can record. >> that's right and all presidents tape some amounts of international calls fdr had tapes works kennedy you mentioned in the package of cuban missile crisis. it's a record. but the phone is different if you're calling donald trump you got to think somebody is listening in on the white house phone but a private dinner one one-on-one what an intrusion of comey's privacy if he had done that. >> brian was mention attention the letter asking for the tapes unless it's a subpoena the white house doesn't have to go along with it. and it was nixon's refusal to hand them over the subpoena that that is what led to downfall. >> the big difference nixon didn't want anybody to know not henry kissinger not anyone. it was secret donald trump is kind of bragging -- you know i
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might be listening -- did there might be a transcript come. that wasn't a nixon stunt in that regard. nixon did anything to squelch anybody knowing he had the tapes. >> what do you make of the last week we've seen. >> it's just gets stranger and stranger all the time. one can't understand why there is so much obstruction going on in the trump white house, why they're so afraud to talk cleanly and openly about russia. this has to get put behind donald trump but he seems to feed the beast of the story regularly with odd tweets and firing of comey it's not going away he has no strategy in mind except to have war with the press over it. >> also interesting to hear his spokes people saying look you're holding us to unreasonable standard of being factual and accurate in what wra saying our boss is moving too fast doing too things he is too quick of a leader in order to be pinned down and get all the details out of. i mean that doesn't seem to hold
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water. >> of course not presidents need to tell the truth. obviously somebody might story tell once a while we do the pinnochio game but the first days 145 out and out lies coming from donald trump historians are going to have to do books the lies of donald trump. but we are understanding he doesn't know when he is lying if pure a kpulsive liar and inventors of things. we're dealing with a condition he has. >> douglas brinkley appreciate you being on. >> townhalls across the country as constituents kofrpt republicans and vent outrage over the health care bill. up to 50% faster today at invisalign.com
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>> will the rich benefit -- >> shut your mouth. >> reporter: many republican congressmen who held town halls have heard the wrath of many of their constituents. in new jersey, congressman tom macarthur got an earful. his amendment helped push the health care act over the line. >> is rape considered a pre-existing condition under your amendment? yes or no? [ cheers and applause ] >> yes or no? one word, please. one word. >> folks, you get to ask the questions. i get to answer them. >> so answer them. so answer them. >> i will not describe a violent act against a woman as a pre-existing condition. that, to me -- but what i will say is that this bill does not allow discrimination in health insurance based on that. >> at this point you can say what you want. but i think we all know the
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truth here. thank you. >> reporter: kevin kramer heard from a woman with a disabled child in north dakota. she asked him not to repeal obamacare with her family facing bankruptcy. >> this is what $3.5 million looks like. she's 2 years old. >> a man upset for the woman started walking toward the congressman. >> shut your mouth. >> another town hall participant grabbed his neck. >> take my money and the billionaires money and give it to that woman. here you go. take it. >> that's too far. >> both he and the man who grabbed his neck were taken out by police. there was a woman asking a question to republican congressman rod blum in iowa about how he could support president trump. >> how come bill clinton could be impeached over a [ bleep ] and this thing that's in the white house now brings the russians into the oval office with their news cameras. why is he not being impeached? >> reporter: the answer didn't
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satisfy most in the audience. >> there is no proof of collusion between the trump campaign and russia. >> reporter: the representative held three other town halls this week and ended up leaving this mostly combative one without telling the audience good-bye. gary tuckman, cnn. cedar rapids, iowa. >> much more ahead on a day that left heads spinning. the white house struggling to get the story straight about why james comey was fired even as mr. trump threatens mr. comey in on twitter and won't rule out that he has tapes of the conversations. my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line.
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there's more breaking news tonight from the president's conversation with lester holt. he revisits the notion he fired james comey. he seems more concerned that director comey exonerated her and in reconciling the opposing thoughts the president may have revealed something of how he sees his responsibilities as a candidate and a president to the truth. >> was there justification he shouldn't be doing that or you didn't like that the investigation didn't lead to the indictment? >> when i'm a candid
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