and deaughter stumbled on an unmarked envelope, sent by a woman to her husband, it didn't make it to him until this week. 72 years later. the letter read i love you as i love the warm sun. the sun about which everything else revolves for me. the couple's 66-year-old son read the letter to his 96-year-old father. in a tweet, he said there might be tape recordings. >> i won't talk about that. all i want is for comey to be honest. if the tapes exist, it would be very disturbing if suddenly they disappeared. >> i talked to the president, the president has nothing further to add on that. >> i am focused on what is in my control. that is what is congress doing to solve people's problems. >> loyalty to the country, loyalty to the united states is

important. >> this president needs to be impeached. >> no one, no one in this country is above the law. >> someone who might be subject to investigation, looks like obstruction of justice. >> don't have press conferences. >> you don't mean that. >> you know sean spicer. he is a wonderful human being, he's a nice man. >> any other questions? >> better day is waiting for you. glad to have you here. >> president trump is hours away from giving his first commencement address since taking office. >> speaking to graduates at the conservative christian institution of liberty university. there's a live shot. people are getting into place, about two hours from the time the president will take the stage. in the meanwhile, it is the first day of interviews for a

new fbi director, the most controversial job right now in washington. sources tell cnn these four candidates you see here are in the running to replace james comey. the new hire will be in charge of investigating russian meddling in the election, possible collusion between president trump's campaign team and russia. >> this as the president's threat to comey on twitter is getting questions in response. he hinted to having tapes of their private conversations, but the president snotty lis not elg on that at all. >> what about the idea that in a tweet you said there might be tape recordings. >> that i can't talk about. i won't talk about that. all i want us for comey to be honest and i hope he will be, i am sure he will be, i hope. >> cnn washington correspondent in lynchburg, virginia ahead of trump's commencement speech. any idea what trump's message will be? >> victor, one thing for sure,

don't expect the president to talk about the tumultuous week in washington, the topic of james comey to come up at all. instead this is going to be a message of encouragement to the graduates here at liberty university. this is a significant place for the president of the united states. it was the endorsement of the school president, dr. jerry falwell, junior, that started to allow him to coalesce evangelical voters in that republican primary and he rode that support all the way to the nomination and eventually to the white house. in many respects, this is the president saying thank you to this base of voters that supported him. last time someone from this administration was here in lynchburg, when mike pence visited in october before the election and that was shortly after that "access hollywood" tape came out. he attempted to defend the president and ask for forgiveness, he wasn't the president at the time, there was

a smattering of boos from the crowd. we don't know exactly howl be received, we expect a warm reception. seen red make america great again hats in the crowd. there will be protesters but relatively far from where we are here at the commencement address. overall, victor, this is expected to be a warm reception for the president of the united states. >> brian nobles at liberty university. two hours away from the president's commencement address. cnn political commentator with us as well as douglas brink lee, cnn presidential historian. we look to what might be said, we know george w. bush and barack obama when they spoke there in their terms, they did speak about some things political based on the head spinning we have seen this week. would it do the president some good, is there anything he could say in this speech coming out that might tam p things down?

>> sure. we can always hope for that. i wouldn't expect it though, the president has used these kinds of settings where he is addressing the base directly to give himself a morale boost, go back to some of the greatest hits from the campaign trail. frankly, what i'm listening for, what if anything he says about his ban on muslim immigration, which is red meat to this crowd, but has been a great source of controversy and frustration and tied up in the courts now. this is the kind of thing he would hit on again and again when speaking to this sort of crowd on the campain trail. we will see if he is going to be in campaign mode today. >> doug, between the comey investigation, there are calls from at least nine dems for impeachment. what do you think has been the most jarring this week and could pose to be the biggest obstacle for the president in the coming days? >> without question, the firing

of comey. it just shocked everybody. here's the head of the fbi that was investigating perhaps collusion between the trump campaign and russia and suddenly he he's nixed from the scene and creates a void at the fbi when the investigation was starting to gather some momentum. he is going to get a high today at liberty university, he seems to thrive getting out of washington, d.c. he does better in mar-a-lago or in front of an arena of people that like him. at liberty he has a group of students and faculty that will be cheering for him wildly. most universities and colleges didn't want donald trump. he is seen as too polarizing a figure. the exception of an evangelical school like liberty or military academy, west point u.s. naval

academy, it would be hard this commencement season for this particular president to even give an address. >> jack houston is with us. do we have jack with us? >> yes. >> hi, jack. thank you for being here. appreciate you being here. >> let me say this, we will take him at university of georgia, could get him at georgia tech, texas a&m would love him, north carolina or at least north carolina state. if the president is looking to give commencement speeches, we could line him up. >> i don't doubt it. >> i would doubt it. >> you would doubt it? >> i would. >> we will have a gentleman's bet. >> why isn't he there? where are the invites? people are scared to invite him. >> because there has been so much that happened this week, and you're right, we're talking about the commencements, but i want to talk about sean spicer here a little bit. jack, i want to ask you about communication between the president and his communication teams. we had spicer come out as well

as huckabee, could give no indication of whether there are indeed taped conversations in the white house, no indication if there will continue to be news briefings. they didn't have a lot of information. if they did have information, it seems to contradict what the president said in his nbc interview. where is the disconnect? >> i'm not 100% certain. i will say this. donald trump is an entrepreneur. one of these self made guys who in many cases operates out of his head. i served under newt gingrich when he was speaker. often the communication wasn't perfect and the reason was because those type leaders are entrepreneurial in thinking and make decisions quickly, sometimes get ahead of their team. i don't think it is unusual. i think in this case it was unfortunate. >> all righty. i want to listen to senator mark warner here, senate intel

committee chairman talking about fbi director james comey and him testifying or not testifying in front of the senate intelligence committee. let's listen. >> we just heard from the director that he is not able to make tuesday. it is my hope that we'll be able to find a time. i think it's really important that the congress, more broadly, the american people hear director comey's side of the story. >> reporting in "new york times" this morning, a source close to comey says he does want to testify but wants to do so publicly. do you think that will happen? >> i certainly hope so, christi. that's the thing that has been missing from a lot of the conversation has been the truth, the truth expressed publicly, freely, openly with a chance in real time to ask questions, to clarify what is meant.

if james comey now unfettered by requirements of leading the fbi wants to speak on the record in public with helpful and add v adversarial questions put to him by members of congress, that's our institutions working. i hope he would take them up. from the clip you played, christi, sounded like it might have been a logistical problem, perhaps wants to confer with his lawyers, wrap up loose ends from having been fired as director of the fbi. i hope it is nothing more serious than that, and that he does intend to show up and i hope congress will take him up on it. >> remind us of the tweet yesterday when the president tweeted out james comey better hope there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaks to the press. that started a whirlwind of is the president taping conversations behind closed doors in the white house. it has been characterized as equating to nixonian era.

>> any time you say white house tapes or secret tapes, rings people's bell. nixon wanted to hide the fact he was taping. nobody nguyen '71 and '72 that he was taping. it is only until '73 it got discovered and caused him a lot of problems. conversely, donald trump is right out of the gate in his presidency kind of bragging that i may have tapes. my gut tells me that was a bluff tweet. he tweets all sorts of things. probably wasn't a tape of that dinner conversation, but who knows. they're so easy to do. people's phones can pick up conversations, maybe he had that dinner wired for his reasons that he wanted a transcript of it. we'll have to find out, but it has created a lot of havoc for the white house, the connection that secret tapes are being made of private conversations. >> jack, the last word.

would it be smart to tape conversations? >> i don't know if it is smart, it is legal that you can do that in washington, d.c. i bet you every time i have been interviewed as a member of congress, the journalists who would be interviewing me record the conversation, and rarely do they tell you. often you go back, you say are we recording, on record. common. all hearings are recorded. a guy from the fbi should be used to knowing there's no privacy in this town. certainly they were listening in on many, many conversations, including that of general flynn. i don't think there's anything unusual about it. i think it is one of these sort of maybe a white house, not so much a threat as maybe a volley. just sending a signal. >> always grateful to have you here with us. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. take that live shot at joint base andrews, air force one on the right of the screen, awaiting president trump to

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we are seeing how technology can effect people's lives with ransomware. we're not out of the woods yet. >> you talk about hospitals, you talk life and death in a situation like that possibly. help us understand what the threat is at this hour. i remember listening to somebody this morning saying they tell you you have to pay $300 and that doesn't guarantee you get your information back. >> it doesn't guarantee you get your information back, but many times the way these type of cyber criminals work, they wan th want that money. people pay the money to get access to files. people have to make the decision, if this is happening to you. this is fascinating, it is not about clicking on a link and phishing attack, it is going through vulnerable computers, window systems with this problem because people haven't done the annoying security updates. people have to make a decision do they want to pay $300 to get

information back or decide they don't want the files. it is all about how valuable that data is on the computer. >> terrible position to be in. samuel burke, thanks so much. again, we're less than two hours away from the president delivering a commencement address to the largest christian university in the world. there are some of the graduates on their phones, no less. mom, look at me! in the meantime, some conservatives are still conflicted over their support of the president. >> i want him to be a good representation of america. i love this country. hey allergy muddlers

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weekend. take a nice deep breath. i am christi paul. >> i am victor blackwell. good morning to you. in about 90 minutes, donald trump, president of the united states will deliver his first commencement speech as president to liberty university. >> he may be bringing with him son-in-l some of the remnants, the cloud of the investigation into russia meddling in the 2016 election, the controversial decision to fire fbi director james comey. there's a live picture on the left side of the screen of the graduates as they're getting ready, on the right side, joint base andrews as the president gets ready to depart for lynchburg, virginia. as the president heads to that speech. some of us waiting to hear from him say they're conflicted over support of the president. >> reporter: the white family tackles everything at the dinner

table from their projects to politics behind the controversial firing of the fired james comey. >> those were pro-trump, voted for trump. i think something like this isn't going to shake them one bit. >> larry white and his white kathy are raising their family in lynchburg, in the center of virginia, leaning right, more than 50% of the city voted for donald trump. >> we all basically have the same world view, a christian world view but when it gets into politics there's certainly going to be some variation. >> the whites are highly conservative but also conflicted when it comes to their views on president trump. >> i didn't actually vote for him. >> 23-year-old anna white one of a few in her family who did not cast a vote for president in november. recent trump tweets reassure her of her decision. for trump voting family members, they stand by the choice. >> i don't think there's one

time where i'm like oh, okay, shouldn't have voted for him, he was not the hero i thought he was. he wasn't a hero to begin with. >> you didn't vote for him because of thinking he was a hero. >> yeah. i would add i have trust issues with the former president and the president before that. so the idea of trusting this president or not trusting is not new. >> this is the kind of dialogue you find at the whites' dinner table. >> intense. we all get in tense and passionate. don't get angry but get passionate when we're talking. >> and there's a lot of us, it i hard to talk. >> this weekend, it is trump's turn to talk in lynchburg, a place that welcomed him as a candidate and now as president. this part of virginia home to some of trump's steadfast support as the city's republican advice chair griffin. >> he was part of the reagan administration and moral majority. that's why it is important for people to come to lynchburg, meet voters, see what liberty is

all about. >> over 100 days into trump's presidency, griffin and fellow republicans seem unfaced by the cloud of controversy swirling over the white house. >> i want to support the role he plays, the job that he's doing. i want him to be a good representation of america. america. i love this country. >> the whites' faith in president trump is being tested but their faith in the office is unshakeable. a feeling shared by many in this brass buckle of the bible belt. polo sandoval, cnn, lynchburg, virginia. >> democrats attorney generals blasted the firing of james comey and called on the deputy attorney general, rod rosen stein to appoint an independent counsel to continue the investigation. washington attorney general joined the push says that they perceive no response to the call so far. so there is a response i talked

about that the deputy ag, rod rosenstein sees no need for special investigation or probe now, at least not yet. what do you make of that? >> i respectfully disagree as do my colleagues at the democratic attorney general association. it is clear we are talking about a serious investigation, talking about potential of meddling in a presidential election with the russians. we need a thorough investigation that doesn't have anything to do with politics or partisanship. the only way to do this is do what janet reno did many times in president clinton's tenure, that is to go outside of the department of justice, hire special counsel, special counsel who has not been hired by the president and can't be fired by the president. it is only that type of special counsel who can restore public confidence in the justice system. >> you say you want this investigation to happen without

partisanship. what do you make of the relative silence from republicans both in washington and attorneys general like yourself across the country? >> well, the democrats have spoken, there's no doubt about that. my colleague ward heely from massachusetts led the charge, got 19 of us to sign on the letter. the silence from republicans on the hill and colleagues in the ag world speaks of a level of partisanship, the kind of partisanship that will not get down to the facts and will not reach a full some conclusion. janet reno in president clinton's tenure appointed 8 independent and special counsel to ensure the public could be confident in the result of an investigation. and one more point, victor. jeff sessions when he was united states senator, he called for independent counsel on several occasions and he made the same

argument that i'm making today. namely, that an independent counsel is necessary when the president is being investigated. why? because you need to have a lawyer who is not subject to being replaced by the president of the united states. >> let me get your reaction to something from senator dick durbin, said this friday. put it on the screen. this is a statement from his office. to preserve his reputation as a credible prosecutor, deputy ag rod rosenstein must appoint an independent special proper to pursue criminal charges or he must resign. do you go that fire, we know senator dianne feinstein agrees he can't do the job if he doesn't appoint an independent special prosecutor? >> i frankly associate myself with senator durbin's remarks, i think he is exactly right. if you think about it, a few days ago, the white house would have all of us believe that the reason why former director comey

was fired was because of an investigation that the deputy attorney general made. we now know that wasn't the case. we know that president trump was going to fire in his words comey no matter what, and that the cause of it was the russian investigation. frankly, the deputy attorney general has a well ernld reputation for honesty and integrity. in order for him to retain that reputation, he must hire special counsel. >> the president scratched a plan to visit the fbi according to sources that was scheduled to happen friday possibly because of ill feelings surrounding comey's firing. you remember the law enforcement community. how can the president mend this relationship with members of the fbi? >> well, it is clear the only way to mend any relationship in law enforcement is to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

stop obfuscating and lying and otherwise allow the fbi to conduct a full investigation under jurisdiction of independent counsel. >> washington, d.c., thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you, victor. a woman says this blurry cell phone video shows the moment her husband was choked by a sheriff deputy. one community says they have been dealing with it for decades. next in this week's united shades of america, traveling to an indian reservation to hear about struggles going on in our own backyard.

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welcome back to "new day." the right side of the screen, that's president trump and steve bannon, you see president trump headed to the stairs of air

force one. they are headed to liberty university in lynchburg, virginia. live pictures at 38 minutes after the hour. the president will be delivering the commencement address in two hours. this is a very conservative, largest christian university in the world. the head of that university, jerry falwell, junior, endorsed the president during the primary, major supporter of president trump. we will carry the remarks live in the 10:00 hour eastern. meanwhile, a federal lawsuit filed this week that claims law enforcement officers are violating civil rights of african americans living in one specific mississippi county. >> the plaintiffs say they were targeted for traffic stops and subjected to illegal search and seizure. i went to the city of canton to speak with the people who say they not only witnessed the injustice, they're the victims of it.

>> reporter: this cell phone video is blurry, but she says she remembers the day a madison county, mississippi sheriff deputy choked her husband very clearly. >> i was hysterical, i couldn't believe. >> reporter: she says last june six deputies demanded they write witness statements saying they watched a man break into a nearby apartment. manning says they didn't see anything. >> my husband decided to tell me he didn't have the right to write that statement. instead he demanded. beat him, drug him down the stairs. i went along and wrote the statement, i was afraid of what would happen to me or my husband. >> reporter: she says her husband so badly beaten and scared that he wrote one, too. >> really is a permanent state of siege. >> reporter: the legal director of aclu of mississippi. >> these types of stories are everywhere in this community but are not special. they're simply particularly memorable. >> reporter: manning says the

sheriff's department does not treat everyone in madison county equally. according to aclu, canton, 75% black, represents 14% of the county's population accounted for nearly half of the arrests between may and september of last year. now the aclu is suing madison county, sheriff randy tucker and members of his department for violating civil rights of the black people who live here, citing among other claims regular road blocks and check points they're subjected to. nick simple ton lives in canton, has been stopped at road blocks more than 20 times. >> and is going to be predominantly in the black neighborhood rather than in the white neighborhood. >> sometimes these are plain clothes deputies in unmarked cars on the side of the road, only way you know to pull over is someone flashes a flashlight in your face. >> people are treated as if they're guilty before proven

innocent. >> reporter: although blacks account for 38% of the population county wide, between may and september last year, the aclu citing documents from the county calculates that blacks represented the vast majority of roadblock arrests. during the same time, the aclu says whites who were stopped were more likely to be charged with dui or drug crime. >> black arrestees, 300% more likely to be sitting in jail only for a petty traffic related infraction, not wearing a seat belt or having a broken taillight. >> reporter: and there's what the community calls jump out boys. aclu says they're plain clothes deputies that target blacks for unreasonable search and seizures, including the home of a 62-year-old great grandmother. >> jump out boys pulled up to her backyard, two plain clothes deputies get out, run up the patio to where people are having a celebrator family barbeque. they detain everybody, search

everybody. when they can't find drugs, they crawl around looking for some. when they can't find those, get back in the unmarked car in the driveway. >> the claims are highlighted in the lawsuit. madison county sheriff's office didn't return our calls. in a statement to clarion ledger, sheriff tucker says our deputies are professional law enforcement officials who enforce mississippi laws. if a law is broken, appropriate action is taken regardless of the race of the one breaking said law. as always, we have fairly and diligently executed duties for which we are required. >> everybody in the area has a story about madison county. >> reporter: people say blacks have been targets for decades. despite fears of retaliation, manning wants a fairer future for her three sons. >> i just don't want my kids to grow up afraid. i shouldn't have to go out and be scared every time i see the

police. >> the people we spoke with say the road blocks are so common, there's a facebook page with more than 1700 followers that post and read that facebook page to get a heads up on where they are around this small town. as part of the lawsuit, the aclu is asking a judge to order monitoring of and training for madison county deputies and they're asking a community board to give the people oversite over the sheriff's department policies. stay with us. how a conservative governor in a conservative state saved money taking on criminal justice reform. this happened while president trump and his attorney general appear to be making major changes to federal guidelines. it's our little differences, that can make a world of difference. expedia, everything in one place, so you can travel the world better.

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attorney general jeff sessions is rolling back some of

the justice department reforms made during the obama administration, specifically directing prosecutors to charge suspects with the most serious offense they can prove and reviving guidance on mandatory mince. in a statement, former attorney eric holder says the new policy is quote, dumb on crime. it is an i did logically motivated cookie cutter approach that has been proven to generate unfairly long sentences. joining us, bert george, and cnn political commentator, jack kings ston, former adviser to trump campaign, former congressman from georgia. jack, to you, good morning to both. jack, to you first, your assessment of what we are hearing from the former attorney general? >> i think this is part of trump's campaign promise to crackdown and get law and order restored in our country. as you probably know, since the

sentencing leniency instructions from obama came out in 2013, crime rate has gone on, violent crime, murder rate has gone up, highest since 1971. 15,000 people killed in 2015. so about an 11% spike in murders. what he's saying, we need to have prosecutors need to consider the quantity of the drug they're trying to sell, but he also said there should be some discretion. i think that's where there needs to be a big discussion of what kind of discretion do you want to give prosecutors. >> brad, how about that point. the murder rate in 30 largest cities climbed by 14%. sessions says getting tougher on charges will combat that. you say what? >> getting tougher on violent charges is great. here's the problem. when you have one size fits all solution where you put everybody

in jail for longer sentences, you have less room for the most violent offenders. in georgia, we had significant criminal justice reforms under a conservative governor and very conservative legislature that passed unanimously. our prison population has gone down in the last five years. that's unheard of. it doubled in the 20 years before that. so we have gone from 50 somethi something percent of population in georgia of violent offenders to 67% in prison are violent. we're making more room for the most violent, the most dangerous offenders in georgia and taking a smarter approach to nonviolent offenders, particularly those suffering from addiction or mental illness and putting them in accountability courts, giving them the treatment they need, that is expensive, but much less expensive than a prison bed. >> let's talk about that, the cost. i went back, read the president's budget blueprint.

put it on the screen. there's a line under department of justice where they say their budget, proposed cuts achieve a savings of almost a billion dollars in federal prison construction spending due to approximate 14% decrease in prison population since 2013, which potentially is what brian is talking about. get the most serious charges, you have longer sentences, fuller prisons, costs more money. how do you pay for this? >> first of all, let me remind everybody for the 15,000 people who were killed in 2015 and for their families, the cost is probably not the number one thing on their mind, i don't mean that sarcastically. some of these are hard to put a price on. as brian knows, in the 1980s in georgia, we had an awkward court order that was a metric system, had to release prisoners because of jennifer crowding. they came in with a conservative

legislature, said we have to have mandatory sentences, two strikes and three strikes and you're out laws, brought down the crime rate but increased prison population, but you built more prisons. i think one of the saddest things we have to figure out, what do you do to actual crime. we debate sentencing, prison populations, but are not focused on how to get the crime rate down. all we're doing is keeping the streets safer, which is important. that's where the balance has to be. >> one more to you, brian, then we have to go. quickly. what about the argument that this is what the attorney general took an oath to do, execute and enforce laws congress gave him. if you want to change laws, pursue congressional strategy. >> i agree with that. that's what we've done in georgia, we changed the law. we need to take a serious look at that in congress. one of the people that stopped reforms from moving forward was former senator jeff sessions who is now the attorney general. look, we know that if you go to

prison, you're significantly more likely to resid aggrevate, come out, commit another crime. if you're diverted and get treatment you need, your chance of committing another crime drops precipitously. we have 4 to 5,000 people in georgia in accountability courts. those people when they get out aren't going to go out and rio fend. those that go to prison will. smarter way to keep it safe. >> got to wrap it. i apologize. we are up against the clock top of the hour. thanks so much. all right. melissa mccarthy brings white house press secretary sean spicer out of the bushes and into the streets in new york. what we know about her return tonight as spicy on "saturday night live."

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this week, a guitar company making instruments with wood around for centuries. >> somebody jam on something we made. nothing but pride. i am jason burke. >> frank sly with georgia custom guitars. we make electric guitars out of historically significant wood. this wood is special. born in 1400s, it is older than the country. in 1856 was cut down to be used in a dam in the chattahoochie river. >> it makes a connection to weave the story around the guitar, make a piece of history come alive. that gets at the spirit of what we are trying to accomplish. giving this material a second chance at life. a chance to sing and become

something more beautiful than it was before. >> the burning is a special thing. it brings the sap out of the guitar and cooks it. that adds a lot of character and depth to the wood you wouldn't normally seeing. >> one of the main strategies is put the guitar in the hands of musicians, gives us a chance to shine along with them. the social media piece plays back into it as well. promote them, they promote us. to be financially successful doing something you're passionate about, that's been the real measure of success for us. >> out of the bushes and into the streets, melissa mccarthy is getting into character. her return to "saturday night live" as white house press secretary sean spicer. >> the podium taking a spin outside the new york office yesterday. bystanders capturing video of her taping for the show. wonder what they're up to. we have the highlights tomorrow

morning. >> see you back here at 10:00 eastern. smerconish is with you now. i am michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. when donald trump suddenly fired fbi director james comey this week, did he harm the credibility of his presidency or firm up his base? maybe both. and firing someone who's investigating his administration and then hinting he recorded their conversations. >> what about the idea in a tweet that you said there might be tape recordings. >> that i can't talk about.