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want to think about your legacy. that's called a memory. and i like being in action. >> governor, thank you so much. great to be with you. this episode is all about chicago and we're going to the places people think you're not supposed to go to because that's what we do on this show. people have a skewed perception because all the news is about how the violence, the gang violence and people put it on the whole city without going to the city and i've noticed we do that in this country. a city gets that label. you don't want to go to new york city. washington d.c. you don't want to go to detroit, you don't want to go to chicago.
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the pattern is those are heavily black cities. nobody ever says you don't go to spokane, washington. you don't want to go to butte, montana. you don't want to go to salt lake city. you're right, i don't actually. the salt lake city the black fixture in town is utah jazz. as a comedian i've made a livering finding humor in parts of america i don't understand and now i'm on search for all the believes. this is "the united shades of america." chicago, illinois not only helps define america to americans but helps de9 fine america to the rest of the world. chicago's been home to some oof
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most influential icons like oprah winfrey, michael jordan, these two and even this cultural icon. hey. i spent my awkward teen age years in the neighborhood of hide park. oh, look there's that restaurant that wouldn't hire me. and there's the dorks with the cool guy in the middle. i'm the one in the middle. but chicagoens aren't only famous we're infamous like the original gangster, al cupone. you can literally go on a bus tour of al's greatest hits. that's where he sent his goons to brutally murder people on valentine's day. in 2016 there were 762 murders in chicago, making it one of the
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deadliest years in decades. that's more than new york and los angeles combined and this led to the all-too depressing nickname, "chiraq" and as someone who grew up here, this narrative of chicago being too dangerous to lev in piss me off as people in the media are painting this city with one big black brush. when it's coming from very specific areas with very specific reasons. one thing that shouldn't be over looked is the other reputation that chicago has which is being known as one of the most segregated cities in america. but how segregated is it? i'm headed to the predominantly -- neighborhoods hyde park to see if they feel
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this divide and i'm going to bring my copy of the 13th amendment. it do people talk about that? >> not really. >> why do you think they're so much worse? >> lower income, no jobs. >> and those tend to be the black hoods? >> they're not the white neighborhoods. >> i used to walk there and the police would stop and ask if i needed a ride because i was in the wrong neighborhood. >> really? >> yeah. >> no police officer has ever asked me if i needed a ride. >> maybe not in the front seat. >> well, since this lovely white man brought up unequal treatment of black people by the police, let's jump all in and talk about black lives matter. i know some of you out there tuned in because you were excited to hear about violence in chicago and gangs and it's the fault of rap kids and the
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saggy kids and my lawn. we'll address that but first following the killing of trayvon martin in 2012, three activists started a #black lives matter. they had this crazy idea that maybe it shouldn't be cool to kill black people. it's sparked a necessary but for some reason polarizinging debate. because for them shouldn't it be all lives matter. what do you think of that? >> i don't know if it's a color thing but i think every life should matter. >> what coz the phrase black lives matter mean to you? >> it's a touchy subject but i want to say it means all lives matter but right now there's hardships going on with black lives. >> that's a completely
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acceptable answer for a white lady on the south side of chicago. all lives should matter -- but all lives don't really matter in the same way and all lives matter is an assprational goal. >> i love the black lives matter movement. i think it's important but i wish there was more of a focus on education. >> lady who was such a big fan of the show she pulled over to talk, ask and you shall receive because i'm meeting with one of the lead thofrz black lives matter. he's often seen at city hall. today he's joined the city. >> the working class people of the city can't afford more budget cuts and teacher layoffs
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to our school. >> mayor rahm emanuel cut the budget leading to layoffs from the south side and west side where the black people live. that's a really odd coincidence. >> why do black and brown parents, educators, why do we always have to fight so hard for what should be given to us 12? >> if we want to talk about violence in our community, we have to talk about the support systems. black lives matter chicago stands firmly on that. thank you. >> because we're here to talk about the violence in chicago. a lot of the parents connected to wlak lack of schools and sch resources with the community. i think they think violence is one thing and schools is another
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thing. >> people want to individualize it and put it solely on the shooters and gang members. reality is people are connecting the dots. >> i think poverty brings all of these problems. why do you cut our kids down to the bare minimum? we do what we have to do and if we don't push back we will lose this battle and that's why this is an absolute class struggle. >> they were talking and the little boy's telling his brotherer you have art this morning. he was like art, what's that? i was floored. you go north, you don't see any of that. kids are going to grow up, they're scared. they want a gun. okay. they get a gun. they kill somebody. it's all a set up.
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furth further. if we say black lives matter, we should say white lives matter. yeah, we know. nobody needs to be convinced of that. that #never trends. across the country black lives matter continues to be one of the hottest topics in mainstream media and in chicago it's been well documented. leader has invited me to the south side neighborhood of bronze vill so we can talk about it and i find him filming cops arresting black people. >> i'm just cop watching making sure people are safe. you're not going to shoot nobody or beat nobody up on my watch. >> think he's over reacting? tell that to black kids killed
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by chicago police over the last few years. the department of justice concluded that the cpd repeatedly was racially biassed towards black people and trampled all over our civil rights and this one stuck out to me. in order to get information from gang members, they would take a young person to a rival gang neighborhood and either leave them there or display the youth to the rival nembers immediately putting their life in jeopardy by suggest esiing he has provid information to the police. >> what charges? we'll never know. >> as we were watching colby watch the cops. people started watching us watch koefy and they wanted to know what we were doing in their neighborhood. >> why were you all filming right here? >> we can talk to you if you want to.
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>> it's cnn show called "united shades of america." >> you want to exploit us. >> no, brother. i got to be able to leave my house. >> y'all got to come out when the police do some real bullshit to us. we're just minding our business chilling. we walked up and saw the police arresting them. >> oh, they were doing real police work. sometime people do bad shut. some -- do bogus shut. get them. all i'm saying is it don't be us all the time or majority none of the time. >> you're saying you're fighting with cops when you're doing good police work. >> i don't know what you're doing. i'm assuming your doing some real police stuff. >> cops are doing some real police shut.
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the reputation online is that black lives matter only cares about police violence against black bodies. >> if they research and learn for themselves they'll learn that people are talking about referations, resources, all these different things that are going to improve our community. >> you just said the "r" word, reparations. there's white people watching right now like no! that's a scary word. how do we approach that? how do we make that less scary? >> it's not about black people getting this huge check and that skit dave chappell did. if we have proper education, access to food, health care, that's the way you fight back against violence, not hiring more police and firing teachers. you do things that are going to
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support and help people thrive and have a high quality of life. they're doing the opposite. that's how we know oppression is real. that's how we know we're still colonized. happening right now in this country. >> when black lives matter shows up for the teachers union, are you just supporting the black teachers? >> all teachers matter. >> all right. there's a real reason there's so muf much focus on the youth. 75% of the deaths were black and 21% were those under the age of 25 -- 51%. and if there's someone i need to talk to about this problem it's dianne ladker. a woman doing everything she can to put names to these horrific numbers. >> we're in the memorial tribute to young people killed by violence in chicago, illinois.
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>> there's a huge number of stones and i think in my brain i was trying to make this be over the last 30 or 40 years but this is just since -- >> may of 2007. >> wow. >> it started off with this young man who was killed in may of 2007 on a bus coming home from school. >> so what made you decide to build this memorial? >> when blair was killed i knew his father and i got angry because everybody wanted to march and rally. it wasn't working and home depo i saw these stones and i wanted to shock my community. i waned to let them know we were losing all these young people to violence and the families come here because they apreciate keeping the memory of their kids alive. >> every memory is a story. >> that's the reason why we do it. >> there was a one-year-old getting the diner change and they're shooting her father.
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are you kidding me? where are we living? there are over 500 here and we're 500 behind. >> so you have to make it big snr. >> yes. we're go having to to tear it down and rebuild it again. >> and i notice two american flags. >> i put them there on purpose. we're in america. >> yes, we are. >> and these young people are part of the landscape that calls itself america. >> so in some sense this is an ultimate patriotism asking the country to live up to the ideals of the flag. >> we were all created equal and we all deserve to pursue happiness, liberty. these are lives. they won't be forgotten. you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa! you're not taking that. come with me. you're not taking that. you're not taking that.
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having grown up in chicago i know some neighborhoods are as safe as any in this country but for much of the young black population growing up in the dangerous parts of the south and west side, gang violence has become a way of life and the violence gets all the headlines. what's life like in these neighborhoods for real and what's life like in a gang? i'm meeting with somebody who
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grew up in this life and working hard to have a better life for others. he work would kanye west, which means he earned that grammy. outside of chicago we were talking about gangs. we don't know how many of them. >> in the hundreds. you got stones from right here. the gds the vice lords, the black disciples. gangster disciples, four corner hustlers. the latin kings, the popes, all these different fashikszs. >> which faction. >> black stone. every day going outside was literally taking life in your own hands.
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you looked up to the dude saying stone love each other. i would do anything to hear stone love. they say go beat shorty up, i'm going to do that so they can say stone love. that meant everything. i still feel it right now. >> i can tell. >> to be accepted in a group, that's human. everybody wants that. >> somebody loves me and got my back. you're still connected to the youth out here. >> and they're really everybody killer. gang structure is different. >> don't be fooled that changes by design. in 1992 they had a higher murder rate of 933 people and they successfully prosecuted the heads of the gds the vice lords and the black disciples. many thought it worked great because it lessened the crime in
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the first decade but many believe it ultimately backfired because it splintered them into even more factions and made more violence where there was order under the old regime. for more google al qaeda and isis. i'll wait. >> y'all been getting more police for the last 40 years, dog. quit playing. that's not the solution. >> the >> there's not a number of police -- there's not a magic number that once we get that number the winter's only 15 degrees, the houses get nicer. >> unfortunately no. >> malik has set up a meeting between me and current affiliated gang members. i'm totally not scared. okay, i'm a little scared. i just let some pee out.
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>> nice to meet you, brother. >> the general is the leader of his crew, the pirate gang at altgardens, a hot pocket and if you know me, i hate hot pockets. >> it may look like it look now but it ain't sweet. trust me this is one of the most infamous projects. >> i feel like you just invoked the thunder. >> that's the force. that was the verification. no validation needed. >> you got verified. nationally when people talk about chicago it's the most notorious place in the country. do you think it's worse than people think it is or is it exaggerated? >> it's worse. it ain't exaggerated. >> a lot of shut don't make the news. d different blocks separate
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different factions of gangs. you might have the vice lords in block one and grngs d's in block six. everybody was separated but now because of the money not coming together, they brought all of us together. but now your enemy is leving next door to you and all these residents have to suffer behind that. we ain't safe right now. it might be calm, it might be peaceful. you might think it's swisher sweet but this ain't sweet. i'm all about y'all security and everybody out here we watching each other's backs right now. >> a boogie is a gun and what wow wow the general is saying is that there are people around me with guns and i brought a camera crew to a possible gun fight.
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>> there's been kids that witness murders right here in this block and they're still jumping rope. they don't run no more. they trained. you know you got cha, the blue and whites, the helicopters out here and that don't stop nothing. people who come from here, they think you got to be a driller. everybody look up to the shooter. he can walk up to you and be like give me $100. they respect that and the other shorties is like dam, that's what i want to be. don't nobody want to play basketball no more or baseball. they took the resources and programs. where we at right now used to be basketball courts. when you ain't got that, the next thing you put in your hand next is a gun and some drugs. we need the resources back. and if we give up, that's the main thing.
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don't give up. that's what i tell people out here, don't give up. because you find hope in anything. >> come together and be a family. >> thank you, baby. >> come together and let's be a family. stop the violence. >> she said it all. >> for those watching on twitter, that lady just did an old school live tweet. consider this a retweet #i'm with her. >> anytime. tell the truth, my brother. >> and appreciate the security. >> first and foremost. trust me. >> yeah. thinking about what to avoid, where to go, and how to work around your uc. that's how i thought it had to be. but then i talked to my doctor about humira, and learned humira can help get and keep uc under control... when certain medications haven't worked well enough.
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after a day of visiting one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in chicago, it's time to hangout with people who make me feel stupid. i'm meeting with mr. je-vaughn johnson. he's a nationally acclaimed slam poet and author of racial study. his most recent book is a collection of kids from the south of chicago telling their stories. talk about that term, "chiraq." because i think for most people it is just a spike lee movie. >> i don't think we can pinpoint
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it, like a lot of slang. as a kind of place we could remove america from and i wouldn't even say chicago. i'm thinking parts of chicago because of how seg reigate said shaugo, as a major city is. >> hypersegregated. so what does that -- i lived here so i think i get what you mean. >> we think of cities as further along with in inclusiveness and diversity but chicago reminds us that's not always the case. >> there's a sense that it's happening. there's no reason it's happening. they're just sort of violentvio. >> i try to talk about the historical reasons and certainly poverty isn't one of them. there's a history of denying
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weth to certain people and have economic power. it's the ability to take care of your family is one of the things that marks manhood in a capitalist society and i am not given fair access to the labor market, then sometimes violence becomes a means. >> but some people think it's black people in the city need to express their masculinity. >> we have to allow for multiple types of mask you linties to exist. you can be as black as steve irkal, dmx. >> those are the two polar opposites? >> i want to give you a good range of possibilities. y'all going to make me lose my mind over here.
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>> nothing like talking black masculinity over carrot cake and tea. malik has set up a meeting with members of the vice lords, gangster disciples and my new friend, the general. despite how it seems, these are long-time rivals eager to come together to talk about stopping the violence. >> we keep the communication line open. >> this is e from broken wings. and he has an unexpected announceme announcement. >> due to the situation aen hour ago on 119th -- you know how it is down here. >> it turns out a gang leader who was supposed to be here was just shot. these issues are happening right outside the door literally. >> so something went down an hour ago, right? right near here?
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>> we ain't even safe here but we safe here. >> while i'm shocked, these guys take this news as business as usual. has anybody had a gunpointed at them? >> can't even reach out to you straight. .45 straight through. >> what do you think people need know about what's going on in the south side of chicago? >> there's a lot going on. we just talk to about seven or eight little youngsters now and it came across to me as well as others that was with me that real reaching out but the younger generation is not reaching back out to us. they stuck into what they're doing. >> somewhere we failed them and by we, we failing that young -- that i falg, that be the mother -- that killed me. >> and it's a cycle, right? >> it's a cycle.
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>> see a lot of older cats let it slide. so by it letting it slide so long, it's out of hand. >> people know the phrase of gang banging and gang. what does that mean when you're on the streets? >> it all went around protecting your neighborhood and peep thij media took it as gang banging. we're not gang bangers. >> for the younger generation, what does that mean? >> when we grew up, there was no instagram and twitter. that's the new streets. y'all facebook live each other and twist each other. >> hell yeah. >> these posts are serious threats. and known as cyber banging. which honestly i would have guessed was something completely different. when i became a father and had kids things started to feel more crucial to me. >> of course you being a dad you
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want the world for your kids. but you try to protect them on what's going on. you try to make them avoid the mistakes that you made and try to make they life better and within today's society it's kind of hard. >> yeah t is. >> if you could control all these circs, how would you make it better? >> you got to get these shorties back some hope, man. >> while the meeting is ending on a call for hope, i can't help but think how it start would the news of another gun victim and when it ended we talked about dinner plans and took selfies. to them this is normal. this should not be normal. i have spent years taking over-the-counter products for my belly pain and constipation. i've had it up to here! it's been month after month of fiber.
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but emotionally. you grew up in these neighborhoods, lived the life of these neighborhoods and now have a church. >> you know the violence that have hit our city of chicago, it's perplexing. even somebody like me who grew up in gangs, who grew up with gangs being around me, it was a little contained, it was structure. it was something there that's not here today and you wonder what is it all about? why is the rage the way it is and why are the decision making that these young people are doing today -- then why are you hurting your brother? why are you killing your own? what is it all about? you know. i don't know if you know but my niece got caught up in that this particular year. going to school just to register the babies.
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>> alterage was shot in the head while she was walking and pushing her new born in the stroller on friday. >> instead of saying ma'am, it's time to get out the way, this going to go down, you just shoot. so you wonder what were you thinking? >> these two offenders are the prime example of the challenge we face in chicago with repeat gun fenders who don't care whose life they take and clearly don't fear the consequences of their actions. >> your son is dewayne wade and your niece's passing was used as a political tool by some people to talk about chicago but not in a positive healing way but to use it as an example of a lawless place. >> republican nominee sparking controversy for plit sizing the death of dwayne wade's cousin.
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"just what i've been saying donald trump will vote trump". >> you heard the saying i got a choke hold on you. we got faith hold on jesus and we won't let him go. so we refuse to allow what happened to make us bitter. we look at what happened could even happen to our family. to use this voice since god gave us this platform. requir it's in the mindset of that dope fein, that alcoholic. why did i do somethi? i don't know. i just did it. but once my mind changed, everything else began to change. that's what we have to get to our babies doing it and half don't even know why. >> trz >> there's a lot of power in the
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church and people who have been through some things. they know you know what your are arspeaking of and you have both of those things. >> and i'm there to share with them i was once that person or i hung with that person that was like that and they start looking -- listening to the real message because i'm real, i'm raw and up front because the streets didn't play with me out there so why should we come to church and play with the peoplp? >> i think that's the first time i've heard of a pastor call themselves raw. the raw reverend. >> oh, i like that. there's love missing. i could hug one of them and say it's okay and they'll start weeping. love is missing because we look at them as being little bitty terrorists and all these different names they have given
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them and it's somebody's kid that got misdirected. let's not take from them, let's give them something. >> and those are the nicest kicks i've seen on a minister in my life. i think i have a clue as to why but i had to point those out. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you. (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) (flourish spray noise) the joy of real cream in 15 calories per serving. enough said. reddi-wip. (flourish spray noise) share the joy.
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music is is always a voice for the streets so my last stop is a legendary blues club in chicago where malik accomplished something that was once thought to be impossible. he got two gangs, old school do or die crew and new school. if you're just tuning in, i'm dr. cornel west. do these guys all know each other? >> not really. >> they all know you? >> yeah. >> but don't know each other? >> not really. >> is that anything that can lead to an issue? >> yeah, definitely. >> okay. all right. even though they are all musicians and cool with you, we don't know they are cool with each other? >> nah, nah. >> not only have they not met each other it becomes instantly apparent to me they have no idea who the hell i am. this room felt like the tension and i was cast in the role of
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the uncool vice principal. >> when i said i was coming to chicago, everybody was like uh-oh. >> get shot. >> yeah, you're going to get shot. you have to join a gang and this nonsense. [ laughter ] >> when i hear people talk about coming to chicago and they are afraid to even come to the city, what they don't recognize is that so much of the violence is centered in very specific areas. you know, because chicago is so segregated. we're on the north side with lincoln park, people might tell you be careful coming to chicago but what the [ bleep ] are you being careful about over here? [ laughter ] >> it's nothing to be careful about over here. >> you run over by a baby stroller. >> this is a ridiculously safe neighborhood, and you have those in chicago just as you have hoods in every city. >> a lot of people in chicago, that would be the main thing. why y'all can't squash this?
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it ain't about what you can do. a lot of people don't want to. see what i'm saying? it even about being a bigger man as a human. you take one of my brothers or cousins, every day i'm going to wake up missing them. see what i'm saying? if i see one of your people, that's what makes me want to retaliate. >> they don't realize why we are where we are. when you're in the middle of it, it's like i can read books about the statistics behind this. when somebody on my butt, i'm not thinking about anything, you know, and i have to do what i have to do. >> you can't say i read a book this is not the right way to go, brother. >> social media and rap sheet [ bleep ]ed it up, though. it started happening when the lights started getting on chicago. >> exactly. when there was no social media, think back there, there was more killers then. the killers now, social media. you can pull up on social media and see five people get knocked off befuddle me.
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seeing a shorty live and get killed. >> we shouldn't be posting guns on instagram. we have to put different mentalities and blueprints for the shorties. you can't say that because you have people infatuated with guns. how we into shoes, why y'all post shoes? shoes don't kill. >> what is the solution? >> we have to rectify the problem and say how did this beef kick off. we have to be able to come together and squash it before it gets bigger. >> you can say i'll put the rappers together -- >> you can do it for the look. it's not going to work, though. it's hard to do that. >> i understand that from y'all perspective, too, because i'm learning from y'all. >> does the music have responsibility considering how critical the times are? >> yeah, music supposed to give you two sides, supposed to give you the problem and solution. we got to be mindful of what else we need to feed our other generation. >> you listen to the radio,
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everyone talking about killing. then they turn around and say stop the violence, the radio personality. it's confusing. you feel me? >> music can be part of it but i also think the solution has to come down to investing in the communities because the schools lost gym programs and music programs because there is no money being put into the schools. you have schools in the same school district but the black school is getting way less funding per student. >> is music the best way out now? you know, used to be people talking about having a good jump shot. >> hell no. >> i really don't want the kids who aren't musically inclined, who don't know how to drop and do entertainment to feel like they don't have a way out. i want them to understand it's about the discipline and rich is a behavior. it's about going to class on time. it's about washing the dishes. it's about any of that. you sending an energy wave to the universe like you going to get it right back. >> there need to be different
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avenues for shorties to be starting tech startups and being accountants and lawyers. we got to tell them that ascending in society is dope. >> i'm real happy right now this is a start, bro. i haven't seen this until today. the old heads and young heads have never really sat down in this manner where we really chopping it up. the cameras are here but i believe in my heart each and one of us can reach somebody and teach somebody and save somebody. you feel what i'm saying? this is that moment. the impossible is possible. >> once the conversation got going, i'm pretty sure if i had left the room they wouldn't have noticed. it was like high school all over again. >> love to the legends, do or die. they pave the way for us to do what we are doing in chicago. these men are real chicago legends and pioneers of the craft.
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thank y'all for being here, man. >> we ain't that old. that conversation was great and just when we were wrapping up, something happened that i never saw coming. >> before we leave, why don't we all pray, please. can we do that? if it's okay with you? ♪ >> our father heaven thigh >> our father which art in heaven. >> i can't help but reflect on everything i have seen and heard this week. despite the war zone reputation, chicago's violence is hardly a new phenomenon. whether you want to call it investments or reconciliation or reparations, it's clear that chicago just like the rest of america needs to make amends with its black population. these communities just want to be heard. they have the solutions. they are invested in the solutions. were you listening?
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>> we actually want to thank you in the name of jesus, amen, amen, amen. i had never really thought about the difference between being an immigrant and a refugee. on a very basic, basic level i learned an immigrant is someone who moves willingly for the most part from one place to another whereas a refugee is like i've got to get the [ muted ] out of here. yes, thank you. thank you for somebody dropping the f bomb on me. an immigrant you move out of your apartment at noon. and a refugee you move at 2:00 in the morning. because you don't want the landlord to know you're leaving. where did they go? and a colonialist shows up at your apartment and goes this is nice, i'm going to stay. i'm going to stay. i'm going to stay. [ laughter ] that's my new favorite reaction. "tell them!"
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