welcome to special edition of 360. with the white house under siege over the firing of fbi director james comey we're bringing you central figure, director comey's boss is former acting attorney general sally yates who serves for the justice department in the trump administration and warned the white house that michael flynn was vulnerable to

russian blackmail. sally yates was fired and now for the first time in her only television interview she's speaking out. the white house has called her pa partisan and opponent to the president now she wants to set the record straight. what did you think when you heard director comey had been fir fired? >> i think this is a really troubling situation there's serious questions about the timing and motivation of the president's action. >> what was he like. >> jim is obviously he held my position deputy attorney general and we had a common back ground and i found him to be shoez

boater but he would speak his mind. i don't want to go much more into it other than that. the explanation seemed to changes on what is an hourly basis seems there's only one truth and we better get to that. >> he. >> the idea of a direct yoor of

white become asked for some sort of loyalty pledge is that appropriate? >> not to him individually our loyalty should be to the people of the united states and no one and nothing else. >> why isn't loyalty to the president something that should be pledged. >> because our oath is to uphold the constitution and the law and we got to call it like we see it. >> if someone asked you to do it what would you say. >> i wouldn't have done it. it's inappropriate.

. >> in your view was russian investigation the reason fbi director james comey was fired. >> i captan't speak to that i worked with the men and women of the justice department and fbi for over 27 years and i know they are going to find out whaf the trunl is and they should do their jobs without fear. >> would it be on sunday thinks it will be tough to find new fbi director and the president's actions are

troubling. how critical is it. >> it's essential that the fbi director be independent it's doubly true right now. the public has got to have confiden confidence >> this is the first time sally yates is speaking out since being called to testify last week in front of a senate sub committee about russia. she told them she went to the whiteside to give a warning less than a week after president trump was inaugurated ambassador the warning was about his national security advisor michael flynn >> when were you first made away michael flynn was lying about

his relation about the russian bamd ambassador. >> can you say when you were made aware about an issue with his under lying conduct? >> in the early part of january we had indication what he was involved in and the middle part of january false statements started coming out of the white house based on inrepresentations he made there. >> statements like the one he made to cbs news when asked if michael flynn ever discussed sanctions with the ambassador. >> what i can confirm haven spoken to him about it is those conversations that occurred around the time that the united states took action to ex pel diplomats had nothing to do with those sanctions. >> we were real concerned about the under lying conduct in and of itself even before there were

misrepresentations about it then there were misrepresentations again where they were saying it was based specifically on what general flynn had told them and they were getting more and more specific and it became clear they weren't going to stop latest being monday january 23rd so we were balancing that with the navy investigation agency to be able to complete it's investigation and not have any kind of notification negatively impact that investigation but when those final misrepresentations were made on the 23rd the fbi then interviewed general flynn on the 24 able we got the read out of that on the 25 able and i called again on the 26th to go over and make the notification. >> don is the man sally yates met with to warn about general flynn. >> why wait until the 26th to

take the information to the white house. >> we were trying to balance notification against an impact it would have an on investigation. >> you would have to wait until flynn was interviewed by the fbi. >> a combination of factors, that as well as the fact the misrepresentations didn't really start until mid-january that aggravated the significance. >> because of mitsubishi representations to . >> because of misrepresentations to the president and others in the white house it took it to another level. >> it certainly did affect the ability to use that information for compromise with the russians. >> did you leak to the washington post. >> you're a brave man mr. stevens. your testimony will save lives. this is your new name. your new house. and a perfectly inconspicuous

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>> continuing our exclusive conversation with fired acting attorney general sally yates. part two begins with miss sally yates explaining the basis for what for her was deep concern. >> explain the idea of come prom i compromise. >> >> the gist is simple if they have information they can use as

leverage over someone they will use that. they even have a word for it comprot. we had the under lying conduct and then the public misrepresentations based on lies that general flynn told the vice president and others and the combination is absolutely information that the russians can use as leverage with general flynn who was the national security adviceor. security advisor. the last person you would want the russians to have leverage over. >> he is privy to white classified information. >> yes. >> what did you say in the meeting with donm cann.

with respect to general flynn's conduct and how we knew it wasn't true and what our evidence was. >> did don mcc ann tell you what he was going to do with that information? >> no we went through and told him what we knew and why we were concerned about it. the pub was misled we were very concerned about the under lying conduct and went through an explained the compromise significance with the russians and told them we were giving them this information so they could act. >> it's important to know sean spicer has repeatedly characterized as just a head's up. >> the acting attorney general

informed the white house council that they wanted to give us a head's up. >> sally yates came over and give us a head's up. >> just because someone gives you a head's up doesn't mean you take immediate action. >> but sally yates insists it was far more than head's up. >> no, i did not use the term head's up. there was no kwascasual about t. no. i called don mccann and told him i had a very sensitive matter i needed to talk to him about that day and it needed to be in person. his off is just a skip. >> so he would have been unaware to have the acting attorney general coming over and doing this on such urnlent notice in a skich. >> sure, mr. mccann knew it was

serious and important. >> just last week president trump saying he didn't believe sally yates was informing them of an emergency. >> my white house council came back to me and didn't make it sound like a emergency like it had to be done immediately. this man has served many years, he's a general, he's a very good person i believe it would be very unfair to hear from somebody we don't even know and immediately run out and fire a general. >> president trump he also said, quote, she actually didn't make it sound that way either in the hearings the other day. is he misinformed?

>> well, i wasn't there for the meeting between mr. mccann and the president so i don't have way of knowing how that meeting went but i know we conveyed a sense of urgecy when we met with the white house council. i don't know if i used the word emergency but when you call the white house council and say you got to meet with them that day and tell them their national security advisor may be blackmailed by the russians and you want them to take action i'm not sure how much of a siren you have to sound. >> that's not a typical day at the office. >> no. >> the president also said would be unfair to take information from someone we don't even know. >> i'm not going to speak to his characterization. >> people in the white house now who you were. >> sure they had asked me to

stay. >> they were aware of your position as acting attorney general. >> right, right. >> don mccann asked you whether or not you thought the national security advisor should be fired what did you say. >> i told them it wasn't my call. there was criminal statute incriminated by his conduct. >> yates was asked to come back on january 27th the day after her initial warning, yates disputes the way the white house is characterizing the reason for the second meeting. >> sean spicer said it was to zuts issues that were unclear in the first meeting to mccann. >> i don't think there was anything unclear about the first meeting. there was additional things he wanted to discuss but there was

nothing unclear about the first issue. there were three or four issues he raised first, why does doj care if one white official lies to another white house official and we discussed it was a lot more than just a white house official lying to another >> this is the vice president of the united states lying to the american people. >> exactly and this created a compromise situation and we walked through those things. >> so they were interesting in the under lying behavior and potential for compromise. it was a national security threat. >> absolutely. >> you have no doubt about that. >> i don't think anybody in the intel community has a doubt about that. >> the seriousness of her warning is not the only

discrepancy. she said she gave access to white house on january 30th. >> they didn't get access until february 2nd. >> it was ready january 30th. >> you wanted the white house to act. >> we expected the white house to act. >> did you expect them to react quickly. >> yes. >> there was urgency to the situation. >> yes i called monday morning to let mr. mccann know it was ready. that was another issue he raised in the second meeting was whether they could look at the under lying evidence that established general flynn's conduct, this is really unusual for us or for the fbi to allow this. >> because there was an ungoing investigation. >> but this was real important we gave a good bit of detail not just a conclusion we walked through in a fair amount of

detail what general flynn had done. >> had you also given the white house what general flynn said in his irnlt interviewed. >> no. >> did done mccann want to know how he did in his fbi interview. >> he did i declined to answer that. >> why? >> because it really impacted our investigation. it wasn't information the white house needed to know to make a national security assessment. >> if flynn had not been credible in his answers to the investigators while that is important to your investigation that is not something you felt was important for the white house to know. >> it wasn't essential on that we tried to look at what he had done, the fact he lied about if and the compromise situation it

created and we tried to give them as much information about that. >> three days after first warping the white house about michael flynn, sally yates was fired. she instructed the department of justice not to defend president trump executive order . sally yates is out and nothing has happened to the security advisor. >> even as a private citizen did it concern you. >> well sure i was concerned about it. >> it took the white house 18 days after sally yates first warned them to get rid of michael flynn on february 13th he resigned the next day sean spicer said he was let go because of trust not because he did anything illegal.

>> the president thought michael flynn didn't do anything wrong, there's not a legal issue rather a trust issue. >> do you agree there was no legal issue with flynn's under lying behavior zpr i don't know how the white house reached the conclusion there was no legal issue it certainly wasn't from my discussion with them. >> do you think michael flynn should be fired. >> whether he's fired or not is a decision for the president of the united states to make but doesn't seem like that's the person should be sitting in the security national security position. >> did you leak to the washington post? >> absolutely not. >> did you authorize someone to leak to the post. >> i did not and would not leak classified information. >> have you ever leaked classified information. >> no. >> the president seems to suggest you were behind this. the morning before you testified he tweeted ask sally yates if she knows class actiified

information -- what did you think. >> there's been a number of tweets that have given me pause. >> if you hadn't been fired and were still in your position and hadn't seen action over the course of 18 days was there more your role as acting attorney general have permitted you to do. >> i would have gone back to the white house. >> why? >> because i was concerned we had a national security advisor that was compromised. >> what sort of questions would you have asked. >> what have you done? >> some of the president's sur gates have pointed out you come from democratic family clearly implying you are partisan.

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interview with fired attorney general sally yates. she comes from long line of lawyers. sally yates brought a story to the office and department of justice but after her senate testimony on russia none of that stopped the white house from labelling her a political opponent to the president. >> appointed by the obama administration. >> the day after you testified the white house called you a political opponent of president trump. >> no look i'm a 27 year veteran of the department of justice. >> some will say look politics must play a role in some way. >> that has nothing to do with how i did my job here. and i've opinion doing my job for a whole lot of job in doj even when you're appointed by the president at that point the

politics is supposed to end at doj. >> after she appeared at the senate time magazine reported sally yates talked to them. >> time magazine talked about you were testifying and said quote watch them start to choke like dogs watch what happens they're desperate for breath what do you think when you hear that. >> i'm not going to dignify that with a response. >> you come from a family involved with democratic politics in goernl. politics in georgia.eorgia. politics in georgia. clearly implying you were partisan. >> i have been working for

d.o.j. forever ye years now. >> she is a democrat but hired in 1989 by a staunch republican. >> i come from a long line of law or preaching. and after law school i came to washington and worked for a couple years and as a thought about career option everything else seemed like a job and practicing law seemed like a professional. >> why did you pick government service. >> i went to a big school in atlanta for three years. when i was in law school i didn't have thought i would be a prosecutor. didn't even take a law class would probably concern some people. but i went to private practice and decided i would go to the u.s. attorney office.

at the time i was think i would get trial experience and an opportunity to do some work that was really more meaningful but i was totally unprepared for just how meaningful it would be. >> what about the work kept you going? >> well you know it's a really unique opportunity as a lawyer to be able to be on the right side every time. p and i understand that some people don't always agree with whether we're on the right side but when you work for the justice department your job is not to win cases it's to seek justice. >> there's clarity to it. >> yeah absolutely i know it sounds incredibly corny but to feel like you're doing something to make the community safer but also doing it in a way that instills confidence of the people we're serving. once you've done that it's hard to go back to just two companies fighting over money. >> she rose through the ranks. was the lead prosecutor in the

olympic park bomber case and went after lawmakers in georgia for public corruption and tried a series of cases against city officials including the mayor. later became the first woman to head the u.s. attorney office in the northern district of georgia. >> i'm very grateful for this opportunity and for president obama nomination. >> in 2015 president barack obama nominated her as deputy attorney general under loretta lynch. >> did politics rear its head. >> it reared its head in the sense u.s. attorneys under him would change in the administration but not in terms in how our cases operate. that's something most folks don't entirely appreciate, that is the wall that exists between the justice and the white house and the rest of the administration. the white house and administration more broadly, does not and should not, have

any influence whatsoever over any matter at the department of justice. any criminal matter or civil matter. that's really for d.o.j. to decide. i think that the public really counts on that independence >> that's crucial for the department of justice to be pen independent. >> it's really been a core principle. the white house and administration should have absolutely sno investigation over investigations. >> you don't want the white house calling up and inquiring about investigations. >> no there are strict rules about it, they're not permitted to call and contact anyone at the department of justice in

fact only two people are authorized to have contact with the president that's the attorney general and deputy attorney general. >> miss yates you're going into a different world. >> yates was asked by jeff sessions if she would be able to stand up to the president. >> do you think the attorney general has a responsibility to say no to the president if he asks for something improper. if the views the president wants to execute are unlawful should the attorney general or deputy attorney general say no. >> i believe the attorney general or deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the constitution and give their independent legal advice to the president. >> like any ceo with a law firm sometimes the lawyers have to tell the ceo mr. ceo you can't do that. don't do that it will get us sued it's going to be in violation of the law you'll regret it, please, no matter how

head strong they might be. do you feel that's the duty of the attorney general's office. >> i do believe that's the duty of the attorney general's office. >> session voted against her but she was confirmed with wide bipartisan support two years later she did exactly what she said she would do with president trump on january 27th. >> i'm established new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. we don't want them here. >> just hours after the meeting at the white house to discuss michael flynn that zult executive ordered banned immigrants from seven muslim nations. >> when did you first hear about the travel ban. >> late friday afternoon around 5:00.

the next night my husband was in atlanta so i was on the way to the airport and i got a call from my principle zdeputy that e saw that the president issued executive order with respect toim gragts ato to immigration and this was the first we had heard of it. >> you're the acting attorney general of united states of america. >> right. >> and you did not know about this executive order. >> that's right. y282uy ywty

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been asked to weigh in on it. >> they were asked to review for form and legality. >> if department of justice legal council was asked about it to review it wouldn't they give you head's up. >> normally they would but my understanding they were asked not to tell us about it. >> they were informed not to tell you specifically the acting attorney general about this executive order. >> that's my understanding. i wasn't informed >> is that normal procedure. >> no first i heard of that. >> you never heard it happening before. >> no. >> was it don't kick it up higher or don't tell sally yates. >> i don't know all the details about that. >> reports around the country the legal challenges came the next day and sally yates had to decide what she would do. >> we spend the weekend and a flury of activity trying to get our arms around what is this

thing and what are they trying to accomplish. >> when did you make the decision you were going to instruct your attorneys, the department of justice not to enforce this. or not to argue this >> on monday i brought in the folks from the department of justice who were hands on involve in this. that would include the career people at mcdonad.o.j. and the appointees at d.o.j. at this time. i had pulled up the legal challenges and read through those, looked at cases, wrote down issues i was concerned about. >> had you already seen what was happening at airports. >> oh, sure on tv. >> you seen people coming in demonstrating and the impact. did that have an impact on you. >> it had an impact in terms of the chaos it created. i was trying to get a handle on what did this executive order do and was it lawful and

constitutional. by monday i realized we had to take a position on the constitutionalities of it the facts reflected this was act to keep good on president's pr campaign promise and for department of justice ip couldn't send in d.o.j. lawyers in to make a argument that wasn't grounded in truth. >> on monday january 30th she made a order not to defend the president's executive order. >> you knew you were challenging the president of the united states states. >> i didn't view it as a challenge. i viewed it as fulfilling my oath and doing my job. >> you knew it would bring you into conflict with the president of united states. does you think about that. >> sure. >> is it intimidating thought.

that decision you must have known would change the tranl of your career from then on. >> certainly intel intellectually i knew there was a chance i would be fired as a result of this. would be stupid not to recognize that was a possibility. i also knew how i lived and tried to do my job 20 plus years before this. it seemed to me to fulfill my only and uphold the law and constitution that this was the course of action that i needed to follow >> several hours after telling depts department of justice orders not to defend president's executive order sally yates was fired. >> how did you know you were fired. >> a letter arrived at my door.

fired. >> a letter arrived at my door. >> what was it like after 27 years to read that letter? >> intelligenceectually i knew a possibility it could happen but i would be less than honest if ip would say it didn't feel like a punch in the gut but to do anything else was an ab recognization of my responsibility but given the situation i was in i couldn't have done anything else and lived with myself. >> do you believe the president madit right decision in firing snu you. birds eye voila so veggie good "how to win at business."

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from democrats. stephen miller in the white house said your behavior was reckless, err responsible, former attorney general called it foolish naked political move by what appears to be louisiana ambitious holdover official. >> was it a political move. >> i was doing my job. >> politics had nothing to do with it. >> allen dershowitz said you're a terrific public servant but quote irving she made a serious mechanic scherr. holdover hero i. spo easy ton hero innot appoint fwhid president. he says you went on to make a political decision and not a legal one. >> i struggled over the decision whether to resign or whether to direct the department of justice not to defend. >> you thought about resigning. >> i went back and forth. >> because two former attorney generalless william bahr say you should have resigned if you disagree with the order and that essentially you were grand standing to looking in for a way to get out to is the get for you

to for a political year. >> i think it's a fair question to ask why didn't you just resign that is something i grappled with during that time. sort of the bottom line is that i felt like resigning would have protected my personal integrity. but it would not have protected the integrity of the department of justice. >> this does allow you by essentially confronting the president of the united states and declining to ask doj lawyers to support the executive order it does set you up in a way -- i mean 80s dramatic finale to a career and sort of brings you into the public mind in a way that you weren't previously. the idea that it's setting up for some sort of political career. >> look, i believe in public service. and i hope that in the future i'll be able to have an impact on issue that is i care about. but anybody who knows me knows i've never been interested in running to are office. >> from the time she was fired sally yates didn't speak publicly until she was asked to testify in front of the senate

judiciary subcommittee on russia last week. while many democrat senators praised her actions she faced tough questions from republicans. >> are you familiar with 8 sus c-section 1182. >> not off the top of my head now. >> it is the binding statutory author to the executive order you rfrzed to implement and led to termination it certainly it a relevant not a terribly obscure statute. >> i'm familiar with that lass familiar with a additional gigs of the ina says no person shall receive prefrps or be discriminated in issuance of a visa because race nationality or place of berth that i believe was promulgated after the statute you quoted. >> no other president has been denied his authority under that 19529 provision who stopped visa to iranians during the crisis i guess the question did you go too far. >> i don't know we had a situation where the true intent

behind a president's actions has been laid out in the kind of vivid detail it was here. and an intent nas unconstitutional in my view. >> assuming this goes to the supreme court, that's what it's going to boil down to an argument over that 1952 provision. >> i don't know -- i think it will boil down to -- well, it could be a number of issues. on that. but certainly i would think the president's motivation wab what he was trying to accomplish wab was that an effort to disfavor muslims essentially an effort to make good on the travel ban as best he could excuse me the muslim ban as best he could. ed i would expect that would be an issue before the supreme court. >> are you planning on getting into politics? for 72 hours of intense and continuous hydration. not heavy, sticky or oily. skin's quenched.

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the white house put out a background paper on sally yates. inside an article speculate bag whether she would run as a democrat or governor of georgia in the final part of the exclusive interview i asked sally yates the fired acting attorney general whether she has any interest in that or any other job in pliks. >> are you planning on getting into politics? >> no. >> there are some surrogates for the president who said or pundit it's who support the president who said you've already been approached by folks in georgia about running for governor or some political office. >> you know i raid that but i haven't even returned the calls i'm not running for governor. >> it's well-known the president watches a lot of tv cable news if he was watching tonight is

there anything you want to say to him. >> i don't think so, no. >> after 27 years working if the department of justice is it strange to have your career defined in the larger public i'll just ask, by the last week of your career? he is that's basically. >> yeah. >> people see you on the street they recognize you, recognize you as you know the person who testified or who -- who took the actions you did on the executive order involved with michael flynn. you have an entire career before that. is it strange to kind of be defined by the last couple of days? >> yeah it feels a little weird after having been you know a line prosecutor, and a u.s. attorney and deputy attorney general that folks would define me in that way. on the other hand, you know be, they wouldn't have any reason to know about the work that i had done and all the years prior to that. and i believe that the actions that i took with respect to those two issues and in the last ten days were consistent with

how i carried out might responsibilities the 27 years prior to that. >> you have no regrets? >> no. >> you wouldn't do anything differently. >> no. >> and that's our special report thanks for watching. see you again soon. >> and good evening thaungs for joining us i'm about to utter single shortest lived phrase in newsed to our top story as quickly as we say it tfs obviously obsolete by the next stop story and three more after that for good measure font a good example tonight right now on top of the president boasting to the russians in the oberle oval post office about firing nut job comby in addition to white house lawyers researching impeachment and the elts et cetera bad leaves for yoefr sees james comey will testify again will testify publicly before the senate intelligence committee. for that let's go toen cnn sunlen serfaty at the kpop. >> we know as of now know date firmly has been set. there is that expectation according to