we won't take defeat, this is the place where we stand strong together with a smile on our face. >> tonight the world stands with manchester. in its moment of sorrow. thank you for joining us, anderson's next. we're devoting a good deal of the program tonight to the manchester bombings. there are more reports throughout the next two hours, ordinarily learning more about anything and bringing it to you first is one of the great privileges of this job, it can certainly be a joy, not in this story. there are determination in the hearts of people in man chester and people throughout the united kingdom to resist being terrorized, even by this, even as the terror threat level is raised tonight to critical on concerns of another attack, and

above all there is sadness and there is dread, because each new development could bring the name of another child who now no longer is, who can only be talked about in the past tense as someone who was, or worse, someone who might have been, might have been anything at all, perhaps even the first one day to live in a world where what happened last night never happens to anyone's child or parent ever again. 22 people were mortally wounded during the arianna grande concert. john atkinson was a 26-year-old college student. georgina callander was 18. she loved disney and animals, she had just started driving and was studying health. saffie rose rrs oussos, the thot

that one could go to a conditce and not come home. saffie rose soussos. there are many remaining to be identifi identified. cha charlotte campbell has not been able to find her daughter. paul hutchinson spoke earlier today. charlotte describing the last nightti nighttime -- time she heard from her daughter. and to not give up hope looking for her. >> we spoke last night, she said they were amazing. she was waiting for arianna to come on and she was so happy.

and that was the last i heard from her. i got a phone call from her dad about 20 past 11:00, he asked if olivia was home, i said no, why? because, charlotte, there's been an explosion at the arena. i straight away got on the phone to the police, i phoned paul because paul was in north hampton working. i was told by the police that there wasn't much they could do at the time because it was so fresh. i just had to sit and wait.

i eventually got news that they were starting to be transferred to hospital. so i started phoning hospitals. i was constantly on the phone to her dad, to paul, to everybody. it was on facebook. the police said get it out on social media so somebody can find her, somebody might see her. and a friend of ours got it out on twitter for us. it's gone mad for what she's done. 3:00, i think it was, they finally released a number. so which i rung, gave a brief description of olivia and she was unregistered as a missing person. >> number 13. >> number 13. >> and we searched every hospital. we have got to a point, we

searched and searched, and the search can only do so much than that. tomorrow, we're going to be back out again tomorrow. i'm going to be back out. we're going to do it all over again. and we'll do it every single day until we find our little girl. whatever it takes, i'm going to find her. i'm going to bring her home. whatever. all we ask is if anybody -- we're sharing the pictures, there's several pictures out there now of her, that people carry on sharing, i know it might be getting boring for people. i know it might be getting to repetition. that one person who hasn't see it, and if one person sees it and we get her back. that's all we ask. we don't want much.

to all the other parents who are in the same position as us, and sadly to the parents who lost the children or loved ones, our hearts go out to them as well. in this present moment, we just need our ollie back. >> olivia is just a bubbly child, if you're feeling down, she'll make you laugh. if she can't make you laugh, she's hook you until you're smiling again. she's always there for everybody, no matter how she's feeling, she'll put everybody else first. she's just adored by so many people. >> a young lad got the tickets for his birthday and asked ollie and ollie, she's a singer

herself, and she loves music. yeah, it was -- >> it was like a dream come true to her. >> she wanted to see it. and as far as we were concerned, manchester on the metro, 20 minutes away, a young girl -- >> hundreds of people -- >> hundreds of people should be safe. and we went there under pretenses of her coming home. >> she knows if she's lost her phone, she knows my number by heart, she knows her father's number, she knows to jump in a taxi and come home. >> we have always said if anything ever happens that you can't come home, just jump in a taxi. >> she knows to find an adult, a police officer, anybody. >> and she's got the guts to walk up to somebody and go, i need to use your phone. >> yes. >> this is a stumbling block where we can't get a hold of

her, and we don't know why, we need an answer to why she's not -- >> i love her so much. and i want her home, i need her home. she's my baby. and i miss her so much. if she is out there, just know i'll be there, i don't care where she is, i'll be there. >> can't say more than that. we would just like to stay thank you to every single person that shared, has commented, that sends their love. we do appreciate it. a

and we want our little girl back. >> and there are many families in manchester tonight, that are waiting just as they wait right now. as we reported at the top of the broadcast, british authorities have now raised the threat level to critical on concerns another attack could be imminent. our christiane amanpour has the latest on that, she joins us now from manchester. what is the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: well, it's just so heart breaking when we listen to that interview, and as you said, anderson, there are more parvens in that terrible, terrible position, looking for their loved ones, searching the morgue, searching the hospitals. the authorities have made an arrest, they have made a couple of controlled explosions in other parts of the city. and they're trying to figure out if this person who they have identified as the killer,

whether he acted completely alone or whether he had any kind of support, whatever kind of support and whether there are any other cells or any other potential attackers on the loose, as you know, the raising of the threat level to critical by the prime minister, means that another attack could be imminent. so they have done that and they have also, you know, deployed thousands of military, of the armed forces as well, who are going to support the police and to relieve some of the police from other sort of more routine duties to help in this investigation. so that's where we are at the moment, anderson. >> christiane, there were today there was an arrest of another 22-year-old that could be in connection to this, do we know in fact that that person is connected to this? and isis has claimed responsibility, is there another connection to back up its claim? >> reporter: only sort of bits and bobs and threads that we're

sort of gleaning from what people have said and what they haven't said. isis claimed it later on during the day, calling the bomber a soldi soldier of the caliphate, and how he placed explosives in the middle of this gathering. and police said earlier today that the perpetrator that was found dead was wcarrying an ied today didn't say wearing, they said carrying, so we're waiting to see how the explosives were used and how they were placed and detonated. and in terms of the arrest, we don't know the full details at all. and we have heard lately from the scotland yard, who say they are freeing up for police to continue with the investigations, while they have military deployed, several thousand in various static areas, that are under the

control of the police, but they are militarily deployed. so this is crucial to figure out if this is part of a bigger issue, or if it is one of these, quote, unquote, lone wolves. > and in the last 24 hours, there are still people unaccounted for. there are still parents waiting for word. what are authorities and their families doing at this point? it seems like, for that family to be in this horrible, horrible limbo is just unthinkable. >> reporter: you know, when you listen to those parents, i mean, desperate, desperate parents, as parents, you can only imagine what they're going through and it's the most horrible thing that you can imagine. and that's why everybody has been so shocked, that this was so craven, even in the annals of the craven attacks over the

years, to deliberately target children, the youngest, the most vulnerable and the most innocent. the police are still trying to help the families, they've got hot lines and tip lines, and places where you can put photos. and that family wanted to talk to cnn not only so they could describe their pain but to show pictures of olivia, to see if there was anyone who had seen her and might pass along a tip. that's the sort of desperation that people are under. so formal and informal gathering of information on the missing. and one thing we learned about the bomber, you mentioned many of the victims who were university age, we're told, and they tell cnn that this person is sort of a dropout of one of the universities afternoon here called solford university, that he didn't really attend hiss

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the breaking news out of man che chester tonight. authorities there are certainly scrambling to try to find out if there's another imminent attack. there were some raids today, what do we know about these raids? >> reporter: there ease two location where is police searched, where i'm standing right now is where the suspect lived, or at least his last address. police used a controlled

explosion to get into the house, we understand they took documents and other materials, but police haven't told us what else they found inside. and the other property they searched was in a home nearby. and we have learned from family, friends and neighbors that that was the home of the suspect's brother. the 23-year-old suspect believed to be linked to the attack, was also arrested in that nearby neighborhood. it was quite dramatic, we understand from one eyewitness, police swooped in and really seemed to pluck him off the street as he was headed to the tram station. we have had a chance to talk to neighbors and friends about what's been happening, one friend who knew him since he was a little boy, described him as a lonely kid who grew increasingly devout. he did go back to libya, which is where the family were originally from, althouh the

children were born here in britain. we are getting more details on the attackers, but no word on what kind of detonation or explosive device. >> joining us as well is phillip mudd a mudd. how do security forces get their arms around something like this, and to raise the level, how does it help them? >> it's a pretty stunning development to raise this all the way up to critical, meaning an attack is considered potentially imminent, anderson. i think it's related to the fact that investigations today have raised the possibility of a conspiracy being involved, but it's also because there's been an uptick in terrorist activity in recent months and weeks in the united kingdom with a number of terror plots being thwarted. and also there's this election

coming up and we have seen attacks from terrorist groups before up coming elections. and it's also the -- last year isis called for a surge of attacks during ramadan. so they're ratcheting up their threat level now, but they were already on very high alert, so it's unclear to me how they're going to be able to do a lot more to protect the country, putting a lot of military on the streets, while that's mostly to reassure people, it's really the police and security services that have the tool kit to prevent terror plots, and that's really a military led. how they're going to -- >> the work of this bomber is more sophisticated than the work of a typical lone wolf.

is that surprisinsurprising? >> that surprises me, if you look at the contrast that we have seen since 9/11, you have a sophisticated centrally driven plot, what we saw in europe recently, then you see a lone wolf who picks up a knife and tries to cut somebody's head off in the street. in this case you have the middle ground, somebody who spent the time and sophistication to build an explosive device and planning to -- i think going forward, you got to look at this and say, are we sure, if with that sophistication, that kind of hybrid operation, he not only coordinated with somebody, but spoke with somebody, that's why talking with a brother is so important. i would be surprised if he never whispered a worth of his

intenses. not that he had a co-conspira r co-conspirator, or if somebody else knew what he was going to do. >> clearly they knew what target they were going for, they had a sense of, i asurm when this concert was being let out. and they knew, they must have known that this was going to be young people. >> well, apparently so, arianna grande is famous, around the world, precisely to this age group. that is clearly the number of people who were there, the majority of people who were there, with their parents as well. mostly young girls and their parents, mostly their mothers and this is a very particular target. we have seen attacks on people

in concert, at the bataclan in paris, and the language coming from isis supporters after this, was just vile, they were blaming people for being at this kind of, as they called, unclean event. i mean, really, grotesque. we're right here behind, you can see in the darkness, maybe make it out, the manchester arena behind, and still a vast cordon is in place, while they fry to preserve ed, keep looking, keep is place okay for police to go around and keep looking. but as phil said, this idea of a lone wolf or not, now there's a serious debate in the security -- even if somebody didn't do the attack with this man, perhaps he would talk to them, perhaps he would be inspired by them, perhaps he would have any kind of support, even though they didn't partake in the attack, so the lone wolf

in this instance, the line is being blurred, the actual definition of what that might mean. >> you hear of soft targets being looked at all the time. obviously in, you know, there's security in order to get into this arena, but you can't secure every possible place. and obviously in going into an arena, there's going to be people coming out and when they come out, they're vulnerable there. i mean at a certain point, it's incredibly tough to secure all these places. >> two things, anderson, first i keep hearing this term soft target. i don't view this as a soft target. when i get in the washington metro, there is no security around that perimeter, in this case there was security at least checking a bag. that is hugely significant here, somebody with this emotional intensity, going in there knowing that he's going to lose his life within a matter of seconds or minutes, is going do detonate early as soon as he realizes he's under threat.

so the security was very limited, so i don't look at this as soft. we have to look at perimeter security at football games, basketball games, it makes a difference. but security experts, terrorism experts are going to say every time they look at these, that target fits a pattern. there is no pattern, you want to go to schools, bus stations, train stations, at some point 15, 16 years in, after 9/11, you say i'm not sure we can secure everything because i don't see a clear pattern. >> word that president trump is about to hire outside counsel to assist him in the russia probe, this comes after two intelligence chiefs were asked questions related to the investigation on capitol hill, what dan coats and john brennan said and didn't say in just a moment. i get back to business. ♪ ♪

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throughout the program, we're going to be bringing you information on the terror attack in manchester, england. 2ru6rthe senate intelligenc committee is issuing two new subpoenaing seeking documents owned by michael flynn. senate richard burr, said a contempt charge is possible, his exact words, everything is on the table. at a house intelligence committee hearing, john brennan

testified about the trump ties to russia and how they concerned him. >> reporter: the former cia director said he was concerned about the communication he swau between trump campaign and russian officials. it was the most detailed account by a high ranking intelligence official in an open hearing. >> i don't know whether or not such collusion, and that's your term, collusion existed, i don't know, but i know there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not u.s. persons were actively conspiring and colluding with russian officials. >> reporter: today he told congress he received information that the russians were working to communication with the trump campaign.

he was so concerned he sent a warning. >> i told them if russia had such a campaign under way, it would be certain to backfire. i said all americans cherish their ability to elect their own leaders. >> reporter: brennan led the cia until the final stay of the obama administration. >> by the time i left office, i had questions in my mind whether or not the russians had been successful in getting u.s. persons involved in the campaign or not, to work in their behalf in a whiting or unwhiting fashion. >> people sometimes do not realize they're along that path until it gets onto too late. >> reporter: that has led to an investigation and whether trump has sought to obstruct that investigation. president trump asked two of the

government's top intelligence chiefs, director of national intelligence dan coats and national security director admiral michael rogers to publicly deny evidence of cooperation between his campaign and russia during the 2016 election, both men refused the request. today coats refused to comments on the reports. >> i don't feel it's fair to characterize conversations with the president. >> reporter: it was just last week that sources disclosed that president trump also asked fbi chief comey to shut down part of the investigation. and now former national security advisor michael flynn announced he will invoke his first amendment rights, and top democrat mark warner is promising to push back. >> we don't believe that you can take a blanket immunity on the fifth in terms of documents. take some further action today, two sets of options and as chairman burr mentioned yesterday, we're not taking

contempt of court often the table either. >> reporter: 300 pages of documents that include drafts of speeches, calendars and notes all from his time on the campaign. he was campaign manager until august of 2016. the senate intel committee, they asked manafort to provide materials documenting his ties to russia. so all these documents they don't include any materials of manafort's ties to ukraine. >> thanks, a lot of details to discuss. david gergen, and jason miller. john brennan said under oath that he saw evidence that russia was courting trump campaign

officials. they may have been compromised by the russians and not even known it. >> they're going to push back against brennan, they're going to say he's a lackey of president obama, he was an obama appointee, and he was trying to stick it to the president wherever he could today. and i actually put another piece of the puzzle and helped us see the pattern more clearly, i think what's new about this is that a lot of us have assumed that collusion means a meeting between individuals. and what he was arguing is that he was concerned that the russians were manipulating americans unwittingly, and they were trying to make them their dupes and put them in a position where they could be blackmailed if they didn't go along with what the russians would want. that's an interesting theory, but one obviously he took very seriously, this is a fellow that spent 25 years in the cia, rode through the ranks of republican

administrations as well as democratic administrations. >> it's interesting, one of the things that he said was somebody can be a target of compromise or be compromised and not even realize it. >> he had that startiling line and say you can go down the path and not even know it. this is the first time i can remember a senior administration or former administration, if you think of sally yates or james comey or clapper or mike rogers, all the parade of senior obama and trump officials who have testified recently, all of which have had bad news for the trump administration, he's the one that actually raised the word

tremendous s treason. he talk it about the president reportedly revealing classified information in that meeting in the oval office, with the two russian officials and he said that there were two pro toe cops in terms of -- according to brennan that the president did not abide buy. and finally when trey gowdy, asked specifically did he have collusion between donald trump specifically and the russians, he said he didn't know, he just handed over the intelligence to the fbi. >> the white house issued a statement, saying there is still no evidence of collusion, was it bad news for the white house? >> i think in many ways we're back to where we started. going into today, if you support president trump, you're going to say there's absolutely no evidence, if you don't like president trump, you probably found something today, some

silver lining you could grab on to say there is some scandal or some "there" there. but there are some important things to go back to, number one, where is all this outrage we heard from these folks today last year if there was anything out there. >> you mean outrage about possible russian meddling? >> right, and also too, even the point that the director, the former director made today that the russians have been trying to get involved with elections for decades. so i think many in the media have made this sound like this is something specific to president trump. but also this line today from the former director, saying he's into intelligence not evidence. i think as it's a line as a trump supporter, will look to and say, what's this all about? bottom line, we got do get this away from the hill and this is where the special counsel could be a benefit to the trump administration, because the hill has just become a circus.

>> do you see the difference between evidence and intelligence? i think evidence is something that could lead to legal prosecution, intelligence can just be informational but doesn't actually lead to prosecution. >> john brennan, his job is to gather the intelligence and gather the information. obviously the department of justice and a special counsel is somebody who would do the prosecuting, it's different. i don't think we should overanalyze what he's trying to say there. >> that's what we do k. >> sure. but there are times when it's warranted and there are times when it's more important -- but there are more important things that happened today and that happened during the hearing. i think brennan was saying he went through the proper chain of command, he raised the alarms is

internally, he basically had a working group on the hill and he's somebody that would know what an operative from another country was trying to accomplish. i think we learned a few things from his hearing today, but it frankly raised more questions. >> we do have more information, michael flynn taking the fifth. we'll talk about that ahead. -24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com.

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we're talking got the testimony at today's house intelligence committee hearing, former cia director john brennan telling lawmakers there was contact between trump aides and russian officials. he said the contacts raised his concern. his testimony came on the heels of new claims that russian -- david stepping back, looking at all these reports together, and again, one can, depending on what side the aisle you're on, you can say there's no "there" there, you can talk about trump's firing of comey, saying the pressure is off now that comey is gone, asking comey and two intelligence officials to say there's no collusion between himself and is russians. if all that is true, how big a problem is it for trump and his

administration? until there's actual illegality, evidence shown, you can look at it and say there's no "there" there, there's nothing illegal. >> i think it's indisputable that the president wanted this investigation to go away, that he's found it very burdensome, he does actually based on his view that of course that nothing illegal happened and it's interfering with my ability to govern. but even so, all the steps he's taken to maker it go away, add up to only obstruction, but anderson, as we all know, i don't think the obstruction issue is going to be settled in the court, it's more likely to be settled in the court of public opinion in the elections of 2018. all the efforts are being brought together with regard to trump, being brought together bipartisan on the democratic

side, they're heaping in 2018 they can win the house back, and there will be evidence they can bring to a possible impeachment hearing. i think it does matter what's being collected, it's not actually clear what there's obstruction of justice. clearly there's an arguable case for obstruction of justice, the other side is going to say there's not. >> do the politics matter? because with mueller's investigation, mueller is not tasked with is it something that's worrisome, it's something that's inappropriate. he's concerned with illegality, and if he doesn't issue a report, is it politically damaging? >> if he doesn't do what comey did at the end of his investigation, even if he doesn't bring charges -- >> comey was hammered for it. >> that may be a precedent that mueller does not want to follow.

on the other hand you may have a lot of democrats who will cite the ken starr example. saying we want a full accounting of what you found, we want you to report that to congress, because you have a lot of democrats who are using the "i" word already, and they're going to want some insirgt into that investigation, whether it comes up or not. some will say that's what kevin starr did, he wrote a report to congress, that they used for impeaching bill clinton. >> as a democrat, would you accept if mueller says there's no illegality there, my work is done. would you accept that? >> i think everybody has to respect it, i think he's put in a position by people on both side of the aisle and i think he'll do a good job. but the investigation that's expansive, you also have the

senate intel work, there was a view two weeks ago when mueller was named, that they would disappear into the dark of night, i think burr and warner proved that's not the case and there's a lot that can some out of that. >> do you think they'll move the goal post and say there may be no illegality there, but this is inappropriate. >> they won't stop until president trump is out of office. they'll keep pulling the string until there's no sweater left. when mueller was named, there was a question of how many democrats will still push for an independent commission, something of that nature put together. look, there's a special counsel, mueller's probably the best person probably for both sides let him go and do his job. >> i'll talk to congressman jim heins about john brennan's testimony today and more on manchester, we'll be right back.

back to breaking news no washington. john brennan testified today there were clear contacts between the trump campaign and russia during the 2016 election, interactions he found concerning because of known russian efforts to suborn this.

jim heins joins me now. i'm wondering what your reaction was today when brennan said he saw evidence that trump aides were being courted by russian operatives. >> i want surprised. he said that in answer to a question from one of my republican colleagues. i think that my republican colleague was hoping to get the answer that he had seen no evidence of collusion. to be very careful about what brennan said, brennan didn't give him the answer he wanted. he said i saw contacts that raised some concerns. as we do, because we're not a law enforcement agency, we referred those to the fbi. what that tells -- i was listening to the previous panel. there's a lot of possible outcomes of the investigation that the fbi is doing and of the investigations that the congress is doing. one of those outcomes may be -- it could be that there was criminal behavior. it could be there wasn't.

it could be there was inappropriate but not criminal behavior. one outcome may -- this could be featured in a report we write, not necessarily the fbi but that we write could be when you have a transition and you have a foreign power like russia that will dedicate a lot of resources and people to try to make those contacts, to try to cultivate people, here is how you should react. here is how it works. we could learn from how the russians seek as john brennan said today this suborn people and processes here in the united states. >> frankly, it's what the cia -- it's what any intelligence service does when they're trying to recruit assets overseas. they basically develop relationships and can be a long recruitment -- as brennan said, the subject maybe doesn't realize the road they are going down until it's too late. they phasing that they have done something which they -- they are compromised. >> yeah. that's exactly right. i take some exception with the member of the previous panel who said that this is fundamentally

about politics and you can tell what's going to happen based on the party label associated with investigators. i think they have been fact based. warner and burr have played this down the middle. i think we're all aware that there's lots of possible outcomes from the crazy hollywood outcome of all sorts of sinister things to, quite frankly, the conclusion that nobody did anything wrong but we can all learn a lot about how russians and others by the way try to do this in a transition. maybe some of the lessons are about protocol associated with contacts with russians and antagonistic groups. we will have learned some valuable lessons. >> the white house put out a statement saying it backed up what they have been saying that there's still no evidence of any russia/trump campaign collusion. is that what you heard today in

the hearing? >> well, you know, again, i just don't understand how the white house comes at these things. there's an fbi investigation under way. the white house and the congress have absolutely no idea what is inside that investigation, what information they have. so when the white house comes out and says there's no evidence, they are very clearly saying something that they can't possibly know. that act, of course, damages your credibility. why this white house persists in damaging its own credibility by making statements they can't know to be true is a mystery to me. i would have thought if i were the president, i would say, build up my credibility, don't damage it. >> congressman, good to talk to you. >> thanks. just ahead, the latest on the terror threat raised to the highest level. concern another attack could be imminent. raids are being carried out as we learn more about the suicide bomber and our focus on the lives he took. americans - 83% try to eat healthy.

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we continue following breaking news out of manchester where the terror threat level is critical, another attack in the wake of last night's bombing at a concert could be imminent. that's what that level of warning means. soldiers are out on the streets in kilo indicationeiley locatio. we learned about the suicide bomber. we're learning about some of the lives he took. i want to go to clarissa ward. where does the investigation stand? >> reporter: it's as you said, anderson. we know that police have identified the bomber. we're starting to get a better picture of who he was. 22 years old, born and bred in the uk. of libyan dissent.