members and their families. >> we got to see that she speaks so many languages. thank you for joining us, don't forget you can watch "out front" any time anywhere on cnn go. good evening, thank you for joining us for joining us on a very busy night, there's a new nonpartisan party line on the new obama care replacement bill. it could leave millions more without care than with obamacare. there's tonight's dead line for the fbi to turn over fired director comey's memos. now investigators and special counsel now have to get to the truth. we begin with two pieces of the trump russia picture. also what cnn has just learned about what attorney general jeff sessions did not reveal about his contact with russians during his security vetting.

what are have you learned, manu? >> reporter: attorney general jeff sessions did not disclose meetings he had with russian officials when he applied for his security clearance. this ov earlier this year, he came under withering criticism from democrats after he was revealed that he did not disclose these same contacts with russian ambassador sergey kislayak during his senate confirmation hearings. he meet with kislayak twice and he did not note those interact. he had with a foreign government, over the past seven years, sessions initial fame your to disclose these meetings to the senate judicial committee

actually led to him recusing himself from all matters relating to the russian investigation. he has said during his testimony, after his testimony that he did not recall discussing any campaign matters with kislayak, anderson. >> in terms of not disclosing these meetings, was it just the russians he left out, or did he not disclose any meetings thinking he didn't mean to. >> reporter: my colleague emma perez was told by a justice department spokesperson that initially sessions listed a year's worth of meetings with foreign officials, but then he was told by a staff fbi employee who assisted in filling out these forms that he didn't need to list these meetings with foreign ambassadors in his capacity as senator. a legal expert who regularly assists officials with filling out these forms, and this

attorney said that senators would still have to reveal the appropriate foreign government contacts assuming they were not in a foreign context, even if they were a senator and these meetings were not in a foreign conte context. just moments ago, john cnyers calling for an investigation into jeff sessions, saying there should be at least a hearing in his panel to look into what sessions did and did not do, and lawmakers on the house and senate intelligence committee say it is possible that sessions could be questioned about his meetings and his role in the campaign as part of their ongoing russian investigation. and anderson, a big question that congressmen have is in the firing of fbi director james comey. the meeting with deputy attorney

general rob rosenstein last week, and i'm told that rosenstein refuses to discuss whether he had a role. but i do have to say that it's something that special counsel bob mueller will look at. >> some of the conversations with the president, some of them the president asking comey to go easy on the national security advisor. tonight is the deadline for the fbi to turn his memos over. >> reporter: tonight the house oversight committee has not received the documents it requested from fbi director james comey, about his meeting with president trump. the committee chairman jason chaffets. mueller's investigation into russia is taking precedence over

congress. >> if he has such a document, that would add credence to his testimony, from his training as a lawyer, he would want to document in writing. >> reporter: michael flynn and lawmakers are turning up the heat on flynn who refused to provide documents to the house intel committee. flynn already invoked his fifth amendment rights, now the senate committee is narrowing his requests with new subpoenasing at thing -- targeting his business. the chair of the committee pledged to do whatever it takes to get flynn's documents.

>> we'll seek additional counsel help to get those documents and at the end of those charges are contempt charges. >> reporter: the investigations continue to be centered on white house interference. on tuesday, coats faced questions from lawmakers about reports trump asked both men to deny charges of collusion with russia. >> have you talked about this meeting with admiral rogers? >> that is something that i would like to withhold that question at this particular point in time. >> reporter: sources tell cnn trump's former campaign manager paul manafort is cooperating, handing over more than 300 pages of documents from his tame in the campaign.

he will talk about his ties to russia, but not about ukraine's former russian prime minister. and as the investigations proceed, president trump has tapped as his outside counsel, mark cassowics. he doesn't know washington very well, but is a well known trial attorney, who also represents russian companies. meanwhile the white house is resetting its search for an fbi director, after wide ranging dissatisfaction with the leading candidate, former senator joe lieberman. liebermann was a partner at the same law firm, but trump wants to see a broader range of candidate force the job. >> kirsten powers is here, ma nusbaum. how big of a deal is it for the

attorney general not to have included others, if it was just the russians, i can see that a bigger problem than him just not disclosing anyone. that according to him he was told he didn't have to. >> in the context of everything that was going on over the summer and during the course of election season, to not put them on there, i think that was a mistake, he should have put them on there. that said, the justice department just put out a statement that he specifically was advised, not only by his own staff, but by the fbi investigator that was helping him fill out this form, that he didn't need to list every contact he had in the business of being a senator. i honestly don't think there was any maliciousness or an attempt to conceal, i think the staff was just trying to churn through a cumbersome process in the most efficient way possible. but these two meetings, you

would have thought would have certainly risen to the level. >> the form says what it says, the form says any contacts with any foreign government and he didn't disclose them. now he says that some fbi person told him he didn't have to do that. i think the appropriate thing is to find who this fbi person was, and see if he actually gave that advice, hor she and perhaps there will be an investigation. but not disclosing discussions during an election, where even at the time he was filling out the forms, contacts between the donald trump campaign, of which he was a part and the russian government and affiliates was a big deal. i would like to know who this fbi official is and on what authority. >> in the article that manu put out that cnn has, it does say

according to the legal scholar they asked, that if it was a foreign meeting with foreign personnel, that people don't have to necessarily put that out if it's done in the course of government business. so to me, this doesn't seem like a huge smoking gun in any way. >> i don't think it's necessarily a huge smoking gun, if it was just an isolated incident, i think it's just in the broader con text of the moving parts of this story, it makes it seem a little more suspicious. if this were the only thing that happened, i don't think anybody would be worried about it. and they're told they're not to disclose what this fbi person advised. >> remember, in sworn testimony, he also didn't disclose the meeting with the russian ambassador. so you could argue that this is part of a pattern. >> as far as director comey is

concerned, it's not a surprise that he's deferring to robert mueller, and we talked about this last week, about, not only are they very close, but he would not want to do anything that would interfere in an ongoing criminal investigation. >> it's disappointing, we would all like to hear from director comey, but it's clear that he's holding back and deferring to mueller's investigation, that has become the dominant investigation in washington. is senate investigation and the house investigation really pale in comparison to congressional investigations. >> would it be fair for comey not to testify at this point? >> i would argue in this context more power. this is an issue that goes well beyond whether there were any crimes committed. mueller has a very limited jurisdiction as a prosecutor,

whereas congress, part of its job is to inform the american public, were there any problems in the relationship between the russians and the campaign. the american public has the right to know that. comey has only three bases for refusing to answer, the fifth amendment, he's not going to take that, classified, seems to me that's a phony argument, he's using that i suspect to cover his own reputation, because he's looking worse and worse and worse every day. this new information now about this russian material that influenced his decision to make the statements about hillary clinton, turns out his own people told him maybe that wasn't even off ought then tick, he has a lot of answering to do and i think the public has the right to hear him testify in public. in the absence of that, congress has at least as much power and

should not defer to the special counsel. >> i want to give you a chance to respond to jeff sessions not disclosing this contact. >> i think it's much adieu about nothing. he initially had the information there, and they asked him to remove it. he was following the policies and procedures of the fbi. >> mr. crukushner, you have genl flynn, senate investigations on january 10, saying and i quote, i did not have communications with the russians. >> you carry that around with you in a notebook. >> i do, i have it tattooed on my forehead. we pull back, we're going to see what really happened. and i do think the professor makes a good point, that an independent public inquiry is necessary for the policy reasons, not the legal reasons.

but we don't have that. and we do have an independent counsel who seems very, very serious, and i'm not surprised that comey's not -- >> you say an independent counsel for the policy reasons, obviously the mueller investigation is about criminality, he may very well after investigating this say there's no criminality there, the public may wafbnt to know wt actually happened, was it morally wrong, ethically wrong. >> how did the russians get into our elections? how did we let that happen, according to a report today, that the fbi director himself fell victim to fake documents from the russians that prejudicprejudice ed him against clinton. >> we got some violence at an

event, ben jacobs says on twitter he was body slammed by the gop house candidate, a reporter for buzz feed who was outside the room, she join us now. you were outside of this room? what did you see or hear? >> reporter: that was the campaign meet and greet at the campaign headquarters, and there was a sort of main room where a lot of volunteers were making phone calls, and we were waiting around for a campaign event and a local tv crew was set up to do an interview. john forte went in there, the door was half open, i then went in to kind of listen in, so i had a half view. all of a sudden, i heard giant crash, saw feet fly in the air, like if someone gets knocked down. and then very angry, very audible to everyone in the room, yelling, i can't guarantee i

know who was yelling, but it sounded like john forte. and i believe ben posted audio. so he probably has a clear or a more exact version of this, but it sounded like -- if i'm remembering correctly, it was get out of here, are you from the guardian? this is the same damned thing the other people did. there seems to have been some kind of prior issue that they were upset about. they had previously making clear that they didn't want an inte u interview. >> did you actually see the reporter -- >> reporter: no, i saw and heard exactly what i said, ben was in the room, i heard a crash, i saw his feet flying in the air, i heard the yelling, then someone slammed the door, someone opened the door, ben walked out with

his broken glasses in his hands, like one of the earpiece things had come off. he said he just body slammed me, a campaign aid came out and said he needed ed ted to leave. and then he was allowed to leave and there was john forte and others cycling between rooms. >> john forte didn't say anything after the incident? >> he went into a room with an aide, closed the door, didn't come out. finally did come out, didn't speak to anyone, there were cops and ambulances outside, and i believe honestly the hospital, and you should ask her, you should ask him about that. but there were cops, cops were speaking to people. my understanding is that they must have spoken with john forte, because he disappeared for a very long time. and then the next time i saw him was in the passenger seat of a car with two of his aides and

they drove away without saying anything. >> do you know how many other people may have witnessed this? >> maybe 15 or 20. >> it wasn't an empty room. it was sort of volunteers there making phone calls, you know his bodyguard, ben and i, i think were the only national reporters there. >> where is ben jacobs now? >> last i saw him, he was in an ambulance, the paramedics say in these situations, what paramedics say, you're welcome to say no, you don't have to go to the hospital, but we always advise you to go to the hospital. so he's headed there. and the cops are taking formal witness statements. i have to go to the law enforcement center to give a formal interview after this. >> wow, that's -- alexa, i

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candidate for the house in montana. >> you're waiting to make your decision about health care, and -- >> let me talk to you about that later. speak with shane, please. >> the last time you came here, you did the same thing, get the h hell out of here. last time you did the same damned thing. >> you just body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> get the hell out of here. >> i would like to call the police, can i get you guy's name? he just body slammed me. >> and alexa is on the phone who was outside the room. so that's the audio, i guess that the reporter has released, do you know the back story on this? i mean i just read the guardian

story that the candidate basically had an investment fund or was invested in an investment fund that had invested, i guess in russian chinas. >> russian companies. >> i don't know, when john forte, one of his aides, this guy that was traveling with him. i had asked for an interview, and then ben and they came over and said, yeah, i think you're going to get some time. and shane, his spokesman came over and ben said, hey, can i have a few minutes and he made some allusion to some article that he had written in the past that they were not pleased with. they did something similar to me, they have been a little -- they clearly are taking press they don't like very personally. and i don't know what the story

was that had been written, but there was evidently some issue that they have with it and they made that clear to them and made it -- intimated he would not be getting time with the campaign. >> when he left the room, he indicated specifically that it was the candidate that body slammed him, not the bodyguard that you referred to. >> the body guard wasn't in the room. >> okay. >> i don't know where he was. i don't know exactly who was in the room. again, ben should speak for himself. because i couldn't see the whole thing. but i know the candidate was in the room, i know ben was in the room. i believe the tv people were in the room and the aide after the crash came walking out of another room and walked across to that room. >> we want to play that audio, because we're just hearing it really as you were hearing it for the first time. let's hear that. >> you're waiting to make your

decision about health care, and you saw the bill that just came out. >> we'll talk to you about that. >> there's not going to be time. >> speak with shane, please. i'm sick and tired of you guys, the last time you came you did the same thing, get the hell out of here. last time you did the same thing, are you with the guardian? >> yes, and you just broke my glasses, you just body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> get the hell out of here. >> i'll get out of here and i also would like to call the police. >> paul, you worked for the candidates -- >> i was just in montana a few weeks ago on a fact finding mission. it was six months ago a state that donald trump won by 20 points, yet it's close enough now, if the election's tomorrow, ryan zienke, he gave up the one

congressional seat that montana has. but trump won this by 20, this tell mess that mr. forte is feeling a lilt of pressure. but so far, the democratic candidate has not beat on up any reporters. maybe it help you in montana. >> do you know how this will actually play in montana? >> he hasn't beaten up anybody in the past. i don't know the candidate's past. >> he's a guitar player, and he used to play in nudist camps. that's focus. if you're going to play in a nudist colony, you got to have focus. >> passions are running high, we should wait for all the facts to come out. obviously you have one side of the story, and there will be another side and let's see how the election goes tomorrow. and how the facts bear out in the next couple of days?

>> is it possible that there's some connection with a president that rages at reporters? there's no comparison to the way it is today than it is a area ago, the absolute rage towards reporters. >> sit illegal to body slam someone? no. >> i doubt this is going to wind up with an actual prosecution, tempers run high, but its indicative of how tense this campaign is, it sounds like this candidate reacted inappropriately, this is not something you should do. i do remember right here at cnn center, howard wilson who is one of hillary clinton's aides, grabbed me during the campaign, in a certainly not what the law

enforcement community would think of as an attack, but i would have said that. it's not something i think the law should probably get involved in. >> matt have you ever seen anythingli like this? >> i can tell you i know ben jacobs, all i know is what ben's tweeted, the audio we just heard, but that's obviously very disturbing, it's one thing to berate reporters at rallies, but this is a whole other thing. >> usually, you might think, okay, some aide to a candidate, perhaps wants to try to get the person out of the room. >> remember during the trump campaign, cory lewandowski, there was a question about whether he grabbed a reporter or not, and that kind of faded away after the police got involved.

but a body slam is more dangerous, clearly illegal than what cory lewandowski did. it's bad, it's not something that should happen. >> according to the tape, what set mr. gene forte off. it's the health care bill, that's been a big issue in montana. in private, he praised the republican health care bill. the democrat opposes it. in public, he said i really don't want to take a position on it until we find how many people it will cover. this health care bill nationally only has 18%. so i wonder if he's feeling some heat about the health care bill, which has the potential to really hurt republican candidates.

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couple new developments in the investigation of the deadly bombing in manchester, england, which we'll get to in a moment. but first we want to tell you more about the victim. martin hett was 28 years old. marlyn's parents posted on social media looking for her.

nell jones was a teenager, the teacher said she was popular, always smiling, always positive. mish she is chelle klis was 27 . we'll keep your focus on the lives that were taken too soon, but we also want to update you on the investigation. also new tonight, these pictures published bring the "new york times," showing what could be the detonator, battery, fragments of a backpack. our chief international correspondent christian e amanpour is in manchester for us tonight. what more do we know? >> reporter: this has been a

very fast moving investigation, we have been getting information from authorities very, very quickly. there's been 17 identifications here in the manchester area, the latest one about 100 miles from where i am right now that, includes over the last 24, 48 hours, a couple of detonated eplosions, controlled explosions going into the various residences in this area, to see what they can find out. and the police constable said that this is a network we're investigating, not a lone wolf, they're desperately trying to find out if there is anybody else here in this region, and with the threat level critical, they need to find out quickly because critical means an attack is likely. we have cnn producers talking to friends and family inside tripoli, we know that the father was briefly detained.

he released a statement saying that he had lied to the family and had told the family that he simply wait a minuted to go on a pilgrimage to the hajj in mecca. and the explosion happened three days after the bomber came back here. and one of the brothers, arrested, all of this according to a militia working -- this is what we're seeing right now. these are the pieces of the puzzle that are being put together. we have to confirmation from british authorities about the libya connection, that's friends who have been talking to cnn and other reporters and militias there who have arrested the two who i mentioned. >> i want to bring in our intelligence and security analyst and former cia officer bob baer, you saw those pictures

of what are believed by the "new york times" to be pieces and fragments from the device itself. what does that tell you about the sophistication or lack thereof. >> it's very sophisticated. it's very unlikely this 22-year-old made that bomb. he probably had some help, or an enormous amount of training. these bombs are fairly simple. but this one looks sophisticated and also, the fact that he positioned himself right in the crowd, you know, they knew what they were doing, the packing, the shrapnel, the rest of it. it's -- this is a sophisticated bomb, as i said, and there's also the possibility that it could have had a safety switch, with the circuit board, and possibly somebody standing away with a radio device, just in case he changed his mind to blow him up. this happens all the time in the islamic state. these people, they panic, they

don't set the bomb off. and a second person will. >> bob, we have talked about this before in the past in ore incidents that bombmakers usually have a signature, they know a person way to make a device, and if you have one on file, you can kind of investigate who made the actual device. the fact that they were able to get pieces of this device, that's very helpful for the investigation, in terms of trying to determined the signature and who the fall manufacturer of this may be? >> exactly. i have worked with scotland yard a couple of years ago with one of their detectives that was amazing and took prepaid cell phone calls and the rest of it and they pieced together a suicide bombing, this was in lebanon, but it's remarkable once they get into the metadata, get into the signature of the bomb, get into cctv coverage and the rest of it, i think within days they're going to bean to piece together who was behind

it. and if in fact there was a master bombmaker, i think they'll be able to identify them. >> what kind of an effect do you think this will have in britain, politically and otherwise? >> reporter: politically, it has caused the suspension of the election campaign. don't forget there's a general election on june 8 here, it's been suspended and the parties are not cam paining. i must say, in terms of security and a little bit of a political shot across the bow, the home secretary here today expressed, quote, irritation at the leaks that were coming out from the americans. it will be interesting to know from bob how this happened, some of the, for instance, the name of the bomber, these pictures that you're reporting from the "new york times" and others, and various different details apparently have come out from leaks in the united states, officials there, and the homeland secretary says that can

only complicate our efforts. but to reiterate what you have all been saying, i talked to one of the world's leading isis experts and he said this bomb was so sophisticated in terms of its composition and the way that it killed so many people and injured so many people that it was a well put together plan. >> and in new york city, aurn often times the police have very close relationships with the fbi as well, to monitor the kind of technology, the kind of attacks that are happening? >> they do have close cooperation and they give everything to our embassy in london, and this is very unfortunate this has leaked out, a criminal investigation like this, we shouldn't be seeing these pictures, we shouldn't know the name of the bomber, simply because it undercuts the

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...just know that... you can, in portland. we have been reporting violence on the eve of a congressional election. here is audio of the alleged assault. >> the cbo score, because you know, you're waiting to make your decision about health care until the bill came out. >> let me get you with on that later. >> there's not going to be time. i just -- >> speak with shane please. >> the last time you came in here you did the same thing. get the hell out of here. get the hell out of here. last time you did the same thing, are you with the guardian? >> yes, i am. >> last time you did the same

damned thing. >> you just body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> you can get the hell out of here. >> i'll get out of here, and i'll also call the police. can i get you guys' names? he just body slammed me. >> in a statement, tonight as greg was giving a separate interview in a private office, ben jacobs enter the office without permission, aggressively shoved a reporter in jacobs face. after asking the reporter -- greg attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face. jacobs grabbed greg's wrist, pushing them both to the ground. it's unfortunate that this behavior from a little bb ber r

reporter. you heard the cbo's scoring of it, and the white house slamming that scoring. theories are that the cost and the impact estimates the republicans did not wait for before passing a revised gop bill to repeal and replace obama care. the cbo says the number of uninsured would increase by 23 million, they also found that the bill the house passed would save less money, by saving $119 billion versus $150 billion during the original by. history has shown the cbo incapable of accurately predicting what a health care bill will cost. author of saying capitalism for the many, not the few, and

steven moore, a former senior economic advisor to the trump campaign, i can guarantee, there will be no body slamming during this interview. this new cbo score, how much does this move the needle here? >> that 24 million people losing health insurance, that first cbocbo estimate, that was enough to basically scuttle that version all together. it didn't even go to a vote. the house then came up with its second version, without hearing from the congressional budget office, now the senator hears from the congressional budget office, and instead of 24 million people losing their health insurance, it's 23 milli million, this is not a big improvement. senate republicans are going to be scrambling. either they're going to have to

repudiate their own budget office. or they're going to have to say, what, it's coming apart anyway, the affordable care act, and if 23 million people lose their health insurance, big deal. there's a very untenable position. i tell you, most of those losses are in medicaid, and it's going to be even worse because of the trump budget that even cuts medicaid further. >> republicans are criticizing the cbo as you just heard in that white house statement. 23 million people are going to be uninsured as opposed to ob d obamacare, is this a mixed bag for house republicans? >> i think you are showing a much bigger story, there's a much bigger story than the congressional budget office report. in the next few hours, blue cross and blue shield, one of our biggest health insurance

companies, are saying they're pulling out of kansas and missouri. i think we can officially declare obamacare in the intensive care unit. you've got one of the biggest insurers in the country saying we're out of obamacare in several states. now you've got more and more areas of the country, that have no insurance company at all. i predict if we were to stay in obamacare, you wouldn't have 23 million people losing their health care, you would have tens of millions losing their health care. >> the trump administration has done everything they possibly can to undermine the affordable care act. before you laugh, let me explain, because of the insurance companies wanted some sureness, they wanted some certainty about what was going to happen, the trump administration has not only failed to give them information, it's been telling the federal courts to hold off on any

decision as to whether insurance is going to be available, they have been pulling -- they have been hinting that they're not going to fund the insurance. so obviously insurance companies are going to start >> i knew you were going to say that. the truth is, i looked at the numbers. the reason that blue cross and blue shield is pulling out is because of $100 million of losses they had in the last two years. not because of what's happening now. you can't -- you can blame a lot of things on donald trump, but you can't blame the collapse of obamacare on donald trump. >> wait a minute. i understand your focus. you have talked about it on the cbo score though, i know republicans attacked the cbo, don't want to discuss the cbo. how damaging is this? if the idea is to have people could have aernd ha covered, it doesn't work. >> i think what it means is the senate is going to have to

rewrite the house bill. that's something that the senators have been saying really from almost the day that the house finished its bill. it has been thrown over to the senate. there's only 52 republicans in the senate. they will have to have something they can all agree on. i think the final bill will look more like a bill that covers more people than this. the main point i'm making is, what people are saying is, all these people will lose health insurance under the republican plan. everybody will lose health insurance under obamacare until we though them into medicaid. >> that's a little bit of a speech's argument. >> well, because, the affordable care act, what's going to happen in the senate to get the votes they need and also to avoid the possibility of the 23 million people going to lose their health insurance, they're going to come up with a bill that looks like the affordable care act. maybe it's better funded so insurance companies can make money. the structure of the affordable

care act has to be there. mathematically, logically, it has to be there. the only way you cover people with pre-existing conditions is you have healthy people that have to pay in that are part of the insurance pool. you have to actually have rich people pay taxes to support 80% of the people in the insurance pools who are poor and won't be able to afford it. what are you going to? what's your plan? >> medicaid for everybody and medicaid is the worst insurance system in the world. >> don't answer my question with something else. what do you propose? >> then we have to go. >> what do you propose? >> allow people to buy insurance across state lines so we have multiple choices. >> yes, of course, we both agree with that. that's not going to change the insurance market. that's not going to bring 23 million people insurance. what are you going to do about 23 million people -- >> we're going to allow people higher deductible, medical malpractice reform. >> we have to leave it there.

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theer rift theorists have working to put it on someone else. >> i heard two gunshots. >> d.c police spent months investigating the murder of 27-year-old seth rich. they believe it was a botched robbery that happened as he walked home late at night. the unsuccessful hunt for his killer, a frustration for them and the vuk tictim's family. former republican speaker of the house newt gingrich claimed over the weekend with no evidence that the case may be about something more sinister. >> this young man who worked for the democratic national committee who apparently was assassinated at 4:00 in the morning having given wikileaks something like 23,000 -- i'm sorry, 53,000 e-mails. >> it was an explosive charge. a conspiracy involving wikileaks, the democratic national committee and assassination. one big problem though. it's not true.

in fact, the whole crazy theory had already been debunked by cnn and/or n other news organizatio. but gingrich wasn't alone. he had only joined a flood of right wing conspiracy theorists pushing the notion. >> there's a possibility this is a guy who provided to wikileaks all the dnc e-mail. >> then he was shot in the back. >> and with no proof they even suggested the young murder victim may be to blame. claiming he was so angry at his own party for some reason that he handed over the e-mails to get even. >> if it was true, that seth rich gave wikileaks the e-mails, wouldn't that blow the whole russia collusion narrative that the media has been pushing out of the water? >> where did these wild theories come from? from veiled hints from fugitive wikileaks founder assange, from a fox news story citing an

unnamed source and from this private detective who says he has never seen the e-mails, never seen rich's computer, yet -- >> it's very consistent for a person with my experience to begin to think, well, perhaps there were some e-mail communications between seth and wikileaks. >> the u.s. government invests a lot of money in spy clouds. >> in another bizarre twist, the notorious hacker known as kim dotcom seen here in a an interview claims he has the evidence. why won't he produce it? he is fighting extradition to the u.s. for conspiracy, racketeering and money laundering. but in a statement on his website said, if my evidence is required to be given, i would need a guarantee from special counsel mueller on behalf of the united states of safe passage from new zealand to the united states and back. seth rich's family sent a cease and desist letter to the private detective and yesterday pleaded in a statement that read in part, it's a travesty you would

prompt false conspiracy theories and other people's agendas rather than work with the family to learn the truth. with that, the story seemed to finally lose one of its biggest champions. >> out of respect for the family's wishes for now, i am discussing this matter at this time. >> even so today, the story lives on. >> there's some question as to whether the intrusion at the dnc server was an insider job or whether or not it was the russians. >> what evidence -- i'm sorry. the insider job, what are you referring to here? i hope it's not this information that fox news just refused to be reporting. >> there is stuff on the internet. >> tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> there's stuff circulating on the internet. an elected official representing us. it's the top of the hour. breaking news from the campaign trail. the alleged