international viewers. "cnn" newsroom is next. for the u.s. viewers, "new day" is next. >> michael flynn will provide documents. >> michael cohen will comply. >> we are in unchartered territory. >> spaean spicer refusing to answer. >> what your question assumes is facts that are not substantiated. >> setting up a back channel for the purpose of evade your government is strange. >> the story they like is fine. if this is a story they don't like, it is fake news. a massive suicide bomb attack has rocked kabul. >> chaos in the aftermath. carnage everywhere. people bloodied and walking away. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. we are following breaking news out of afghanistan. suicide bomb attack rocking

kabul's highly secured diplomatic quarter. those numbers may change. the attack happening yards from the general embassy. diplomats are among the injured. here at home, donald trump's fired national security adviser michael flynn reversing course. he is now agreeing to turnover subpoenaed documents to investigators. >> sean spicer refusing to confirm or comment on reports that jared kushner tried to set up a secret back channel to russia. this morning, one word is bringing people on both sides of the aisle together. that word is covfefe. we have it all. joe johns at the white house who can interpret all of this. >> reporter: i'll try. i'll get to that in a minute, alisyn. just ramping it up here in the russia investigation on capitol hill and washington, d.c.

first, members of the congress politely asked for information. when they didn't get what they want, they started issuing subpoenas. that is at the point when an individual who is being looked at by the united states congress finds himself with some potential legal exposure. the situation the president's fired national security adviser finds himself in this morning. president trump's fired national security adviser michael flynn now says he is willing to cooperate with senate investigators to provide them with documents sought by two subpoenas. flynn expected to hand over the first batch to the senate intelligence committee by june 6th. congressional investigators expanding sights to other trump aides. michael cohen, personal attorney to the president, flatly refusing the request to offer up information and testify. cohen lashing out. claiming a lack of evidence to corroborate the russia narrativ

fishing expedition. and sean spicer facing tough questions about all of the russia revelations when he held his first briefing in more than two weeks. >> does the white house dispute? >> i'm not going to get into it. the question pre-dissupposes facts that are not confirmed. >> reporter: the white house refusing to deny whether jared kushner sought a secret back channel with vladimir putin. >> discussed in general terms back channels are appropriate part of difficult employmeploma. >> reporter: and they look into the contacts with russia during the transition and why he met with russian banker sergei gorkov. kushner was talking to the russians as the primary point of contact with foreign

governments. the russian bank called it a business meeting. >> mr. kushner's attorney said mr. kushner volunteered to share what he knows about the meetingsment he will do the same if he is contacted with any other. >> did the president discuss it? >> i will not get into it. >> reporter: the white house in spin mode trying to downplay reports of turmoil in the west wing. >> i think he is pleased with the work of his staff. he is frustrated like i am and others to see stories come out that are patently false and narratives wrong and quote/unquote fake news. when you see stories get perpetrated that are absolutely false that are not based in fact. this is troubling. >> reporter: clashing with the media over the president's favorite subject. >> can you give an example of fake news? >> yes. sure. friday, the president was having a great discussion at the g7. and someone from the bbc and ultimately reporter from the new

york tyimes retweeted that the president was disrespecting the italian minister. when you all sit in with the ear piece that is used by the other presidents. the president did a great job at nato. >> and abrupting storming out. >> reporter: now a little bit more on the dust-up on covfefe. the president started a tweet and it did not end well. essentially saying something about negative press covfefe. he wrote covfefe. something anybody who uses social media mis-fires. he deleted the original tweet and then followed up with who can figure out the true meaning of covfefe. >> he is getting a pass.

did you see the number of retweets? many as he has gotten for anything he said as the leader of the free world. joe, thank you very much. let's bring in the panel. analyst david gregory. cnn political reporter chris cillizza and columnist at real clear politics a.b. stoddard. all right, brother gregory. what do you have on covfefe? >> i got nothing. i got we will trace the beginning of the western civilization to the president's use of twitter and fascination with it. to be more serious, clearly he is in the middle of the new round of ranting of press coverage and trying to distract from the investigation over russia. the extent is something that matters. an actual agenda. we cannot lose sight of the fact

that the coin of the realm for president trump is accomplishment. he has failed to accomplish key elements of his agenda that had a lot of excitement for conservatives who may not necessarily agree with him and those who supported him who might not have otherwise supported him if it were not for the uniqueness of the 2016 election year. whether it is stalled on health care and questions of the future of tax reform as we get deeper into the summer and facing the fall and election year next year for the mid terms. i think this has to be wearing on him. the reporting is bearing that out. there is obvious signs of frustration and how disoriented they feel. >> chris, the cloud of russia and the ongoing investigation and threads every day do get in the way of whatever the president's planned generagenda. michael flynn was all over the map.

he had a story to tell. he told congressional investigators. he wanted to tell it, but he wanted immunity. they said no. he would not appear. now subpoenaed documents. now the documents he has to hand over by june 6th. where does that leave us? >> more smoke. i feel like i say it almost every day. more smoke around the investigation around questions that nothing has been proven in terms of collusion. there is enough "there" there whether it is michael flynn or donald trump's defense of carter page. it is 7:08 and he was already in the middle of tweet number four. whether it is paul manafort or whether it is jared kushner. there is just a lot there. you see the president growing more frustrated and more isolated. the truth is this is his own doing. what he should have been and what he could do, welcome the

robert mueller investigation with open arms. what did he do this morning? call it yet again a witch hunt. he is his own worst enemy. all of the staff talk that we have and understandably so, the communications director left yesterday admits the only person in that white house who really, really, really matters is donald trump. you can sub other people in around him. fundamentally, if he doesn't listen to them and does what he wants to do which is what he does, then this isn't going to change. i don't think any reasonable person should expect it to change. >> a.b., here is the tweet i care about. my theory of the case here is that the president is causing his own problems even with the russia investigation. yes, i know the trump supporters will say it is congress and you and the media. no, it is what he did with comey and the dni and who he talks to. the latest tweets. now it is reported that the

democrats who asked about carter page about russia don't want him to testify. now he wants to clear his name by showing the false testimony from him. why set carter page, a guy who nobody around trump wants to own as being equal to and better than jim comey and john brennan. third, why is he leaning on reports when he says it is all fake news? >> he retweeted a news account yesterday that made it look better for jared kushner. it was based on anonymous sources. >> it is a story that got debunked. >> he likes anonymous sources. >> why tweet this? why create? >> they have gone to paigns, chris, to say they never met carter page. and he is a thread in the

investigation that he is the least close to trump world and really the -- basically the president doesn't know him and he is trying to get in. >> how does he know he can blow their case against him out of the water? how does he know that? >> you are right. he brings himself a world of hurt with the tweets. he is self destructive. the comey firing showed it. he said it was because of the rosenstein memo. the deputy ag. he sent his spokesperson out to say the same thing. he told lester holt it was all about russia. this is after we learned he asked james comey for loyalty and asked rogers and coats to come out and declare there was no collusion. this is a real investigation. it may be all the collusion that took place. if it did happen, it was

unwittingly. the fbi doesn't investigate for its health and it is bored. every time he rails on tweets, he brings more political heat and trouble. this is not something the president's staff can stop. you can get rid of the low hanging fruit on the staff and bring in new people who will be yes men. no one is telling this president no. not a white house counselor or lawyers to make it less damaging. >> and the covfefe thing is dumb. david is right. at the same time, and david makes this point. at the same time, it is indicative of a guy who is just sitting around late at night on his phone. you know, that's fine -- actually, it gets me in trouble doing that. when you are the president of the united states, you really

shouldn't be doing it. it is a lack of discipline and to a.b.'s point, lack of anyone who says at 10:00, let's shelf the phone and you will be up early the next day. let's shelf the phone and go to bed. there's no one reining him in. it is telling. and deeply damaging to him. >> david, if there is nobody reining him in or telling him no, there appears to be a problem from sean spicer's point of view with asking the president questions and getting real answers. so sean spicer goes to the podium with the press and he cannot confirm or comment on the questions that the press has about jared kushner and whether or not jared kushner tried to set up the back channel. why is sean spicer holding the press briefings? what is the point? >> there is really no point. what is unfortunate for sean spicer the white house press secretary position under

president trump doesn't have credibility. i've been in this job. i had interactions with press secretaries. i have a certain amount of sympathy for sean spicer. he has to do what his boss wants him to do. his boss is not truthful for the american people nor people who work for president trump. as long as that is the case, the white house doesn't have credibility. you don't know what to believe. you are on the receiving end of a rant. that is not information. it is not helpful. all it is doing is trying to foster divisions and create a lot of noise. the bottom line is we have an investigation running on several tracks. it is a serious investigation. you have a president without discipline. you have a president who will have a very hard time getting back to an actual agenda. apparently, i heard commentators say this is all about jobs. great. let's talk about jobs. where are the jobs?

where is economic growth? where are some of the things the stock market was excited about? you only have so much political capital. the president doesn't realize that. he is squandering it because he is allowing himself to be dragged into something that he cannot control. he thinks he still can. >> panel, thank you very much for all of the insight. nice to see you. we want to get to breaking news. there has been a massive suicide bomb that has rocked the diplomatic quarter in kabul, afghanistan. this blast happened during the morning rush hour which killed 80 people and injured 300 more. diplomats in the german embassy are among the injured. joining us now is reuters correspondent josh smith. he felt the explosion and felt the devastation first hand. josh, we are happy you are okay. tell us what you saw. >> reporter: as you mentioned, it happened early this morning. i was out on assignment elsewhere in the city when we

felt a tremendous shaking and turned around and saw the massive cloud of gray smoke and black ash filling the sky above the central part of the city. here in the bureau just a couple of blocks away from the blast site itself, it blew out windows behind the drapes here we have no more windows. actually pushed several doors off their hinges. the real victims, however, as usual, are the afghan civilians who paid a heavy price. i was at the hospital a few blocks from here this morning. there was a steady stream of ambulances delivering wounded and later dead bodies to the hospital. >> obviously children and women are, we believe, among the injured and dead. josh, it was next to the german embassy. is there a sense on the ground

that the general em rm even abo was targeted? >> it is still not clear of claim of responsibility. the taliban has specifically said it was not them. we don't exactly have insight into what the specific car gtar was. the german embassy was heavily damaged. the french embassy to a lesser degree. some of the other areas that were heavily damaged. there were buildings that housed the offices of a major telecom and bank and victims were working before the blast. >> josh, what do you make of this as a window to the security environment in afghanistan in general? as you know, the u.s. president contemplating more troops and what involvement is necessary? that decision is predicated on the understanding of the state of security there. how do you see it?

>> reporter: i have been here in afghanistan for over four years now. every time i write one of the news stories saying this is among the deadliest attacks in afghanistan, i hope it will be the last one. yet, they continue to have the attacks against all odds continue to be among the deadliest we have ever seen here. it doesn't bode well for the future of security in afghanistan and afghans are paying the price for that. the u.n. has been documenting record high numbers of civil casualties. there is also extremely high casualties among the afghan security forces whom the u.s. and allies work on training. what is not clear is whether a few thousand more advisers here will actually be able to secure the country in a way that ends this violence. >> josh smith, thank you for taking time for us this morning.

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the cloud of the russia investigation is real. no question about that. the question is, is the president making it worse with his tweets and spinning of what is fake about it and hindering his ability to get anything done for you, the american people. let's discuss with congress member sean duffey of wisconsin. thanks for coming on "new day" to make the case. i cannot take author ship of the theory. the wall street journal has it. criticizing the president for basically trafficking too much and what is going on in russia and becoming distracted and not putting into place the whole agenda he promised the american people. your take? >> no doubt this is a

distraction, chris a, and i thi the president should step aside and focus on the agenda. if you look, he had a great nine-day trip overseas. the russia cloud as you put it, did not have any influence on his ability to go out and make a case for america. whether to nato or middle east allies on how we should work together for a common good. i would agree with the point. stop tweeting about it and stop talking about it and get to business for the american people. >> what did you think about the trip? a lot of issues sty s stylistic? what do you think of it? >> they don't like him. his concern is security and safety and terrorism. i think you have other european leaders more concerned about the environment and global warming. those are two different tracks and two different visions for

the people. when you have a president who is not as soft and sweet as maybe the europeans and more rough and tumble and american style. they don't take kindly to it. >> here is case in point this morning from the president. now it is reported that the democrats who excoriated about carter page. adam schiff siaid we will not negotiate about a date to testify. they don't want him to testify, he says, because he blows away the case against him and he wants to clear his name by showing the false testimony by james comey and john brennan. witch hunt. isn't this the problem, congress member? he says he doesn't know carter page. his people call me all the time telling me carter page has nothing to do with the president.

the president never met him. now he knows his testimony so well and knows it blows it out of the water so much so he can put him on even footing with james comey and brennan sf. what do you think? >> this is my viewpoint. do i think the investigation will not show any evidence of collusion? i think you had james clapper on yesterday. he said he hasn't seen evidence not just before the election, but three months after the election. he saw no evidence of collusion of russia and president trump. i think the investigation is going to bear that out as will. in the process, as you pointed out, there is a cloud. listen, let's bring all these folks in whether they are coming to the senate or house intelligence committee or mueller's investigation. with you are now in the system where the investigation is happening and everyone should cooperate and provide as much information. in the end, if the president

doesn't have anything to hide because there was no collusion there. put him out there. i agree. >> the investigation is ongoing. we don't know what they have. let's say clapper went to great lengths to say it is wrong to cast my saying i didn't see proof as meaning there was no proof. i wasn't in charge with that part of the investigation. i respected the fbi's innocen independence. i wasn't aware of what evidence they had. he went to great lengths to not make the point you made. just for the record. >> i think it is important to note, terview as well. he watched his words closely. whether it was james clapper or with dianne feinstein who sits on the committee in the senate. she has come out and said it is with the fbi or dni.

she hasn't had reporting there was collusion as well. we had this conversation. that doesn't mean there isn't evidence. no one is publicly coming forward and saying they have seen evidence on the collusion. >> we will see what they have or don't have. trying to jump the gun on either side is counter productive. we talked about this before. >> jumping the gun is when we talk about it every day. >> there are new developments every day often fueled by the president or certain things that require as clapper said. not just context. what happened in the substance of those like with jared kushner? >> i think for you and i and for your viewers, we should sit back and say let the investigation happen. >> that's what i'm saying to you. >> it happens every day. >> there are new developments every day. >> it comes back to the point if

president obama was watching through intelligence community any contact that hillary clinton was having with the russians. donald trump connections to the russians. they were concerned about russian involvement in the election. all the way up to the election. that was the start of november. they had three months where they knew donald trump was going to be the next president. they were leaving bread crumbs all over the government on the information they had. i have to believe that the head of the dni of our national intelligence. the point of coordination on intelligence, if that evidence existed, he probably would have had it and would have been evasive. >> you can believe it. >> i can't tell you that or can't go into it. >> you can believe it, but a lot of people who defend the president believe it. i'm telling you clapper says that is not the case. he wasn't privy to the book on this case. he didn't know the evidence. that is why he didn't see any. he didn't develop any in the

intel phase. i know feinstein says she hasn't seen it. if you want to let it unfold, let it unfold. let me ask you this. i'm just reporting on the developments. when the president says this stuff about carter page that can't be true, i have to report on it. >> agree. >> back channels. with the russian banker part of the sanctioned kabal of power with putin. hanging in the air which was reportedly to stay away from the intelligence community in the u.s. secured by russia's own intelligence. do you not believe that is something that requires investigation? >> listen, do i have any evidence that jared kushner did anything wrong? no. what you laid outdo doesn't lea me to believe there is anything nefarious. what is good when russia uranium

one is trying to get hillary clinton as secretary of state to approve this deal and bill clinton -- went over and got $500,000 for a moscow speech. $500,000 for a moscow speech as this was happening. there is no evidence that jared kushner had money. he had a meeting. chris, it is important to note for me as this congress member involved with the trump campaign. my chief of staff ran trump for wisconsin. i had governments reaching out to me after the election. how do we meet somebody in the administration. how do we talk to somebody in the administration because they had no contacts. i don't think anybody thought trump was going to win. when he did, they were scrambling to say who is the point of contact? who can we communicate to have lines of communication? this stuff happens. >> if you were to fill out a security form and had taken the

meetings, would you disclose it? >> i think that should have been disclosed. i don't know the information or advice he got from counsel. i didn't have that conversation? does that mean something nefarious happened? >> i don't know. all i know he didn't want to disclose it. i need to ask you now. >> you and i both don't know the back story on what happened. was he told he had to disclose or not disclose? i don't know that. nor do you. it comes back to the point i have not seen anything that leads me to believe that there was any wrongdoing by jared kushner or by the trump campaign. if there is, i'll come on the show, chris, and i will join you and go what the hell was going on here with the contact that donald trump shouldn't have had with the russians. i'll join you in that call-up. >> with jared kushner, you cannot ask for the proof on kushner when he hasn't talked to

anybody. he won't give an interview. we have not heard his voice in a public forum. it is premature when he gave you nothing. he didn't disclose it. we will leave the conversation until we know more. >> absolutely. >> congress member duffy, i appreciate it. you make points the american people need to hear. >> thank you, chris. alisyn. >> chris, the president urging the senate to change its rules to speed up health care and tax reform bills. senator richard bloom blumenthal with that and more next. high-tech tary cameras that see through walls, can inspect our pipelines to prevent leaks. remote-controlled aircraft, can help us identify potential problems and stop them in their tracks. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.

more fallout this morning from the reports alleged that the senior adviser jared kushner wanted to set up a back channel communication with russia before donald trump took office. that caused senator blumenthal to tweet this. only someone with secrets wanted a secret line to putin. senator blumenthal joins us now. you hear what they are saying.

oth administrations have said they have back channels. rfk had one with kennedy and kruschev to stave off the missile crisis. >> they have official authorization and knowledge at the highest levels. here what we have is a secret discussion about a secret back channel using russian communication facilities and maybe most importantly concealment. the non disclosure on security clearance forms and part of a pattern because flynn had secret discussions and then failed to disclose them. in fact conceal them. so did attorney general jeff sessions and now kushner, again, with the russians. so the pattern here and the non disclosure and concealment are

what concern me. >> senator, we had governor johnson of new hampshire yesterday who basically said blah, blah, blah, all this is a tempest in a tea pot. until you have the proof, shut up about it. the fbi has not been able to prove collusion. >> those investigations need to move forward independently and aggressively. number one, the special prosecutor is pursuing hopefully, i have no insigside information, hopefully the meddling by the russians in the election and also trump collusion during the campaign. those have to be pursued. >> how do you prove collusion? >> there are a number of issues. the facts which led to support

aiding and abetting and encouraging and providing ass t assistance and support. number two, the concealing of information and obstruction of justice. >> obstruction of justice is different than collusion. do you think you will be able to draw a line from what you learned thus far in the judiciary committee, do you think you can draw the line in the investigation to collusion? >> what is significant is motive and intent. that will make or break this case. that is why we have a special prosecutor and the cooperation from the trump administration. not calling the investigation a witch hunt or charade. we need cooperation from the trump administration to establish whether the facts support it. also by the intelligence

committees and by the judiciary committee. they have an independent responsibility. >> next topic. paris climate accord. president trump considering whether or not to pull the u.s. out of the treaty. 200 countries signed on to it. what happens if the president decides to pull the u.s. out of paris? >> i think what the consequence will be inevitably will be the diminishing of confidence in our government and in our commitment to preserving the environment. clean air and water and most of all saving the planet from the continuing effect of climate change and be global warming. i think our credibility is undermines. >> if other countries lose confidence in the u.s. in belief in climate change, then what? >> if other countries lose confidence in us, they may cut back their commitment.ek equalll

produce jobs. other countries will similarly in effect create more jobs and surpass us in that kind of opportunistic and taking advantage of opportunities that we failed to fulfill. we have enormous opportunities for job creation and economic growth. in my state of connecticut with fuel cell development and solar and wind. there are huge opportunities if we invest. >> lastly, i want to ask about president trump suggesting that if the senate could change its rules, you could get things done more quickly in terms of creating jobs and tax relief. here is what he tweeted. the u.s. senate should switch to 51 votes immediately and get

health care and tax cuts. dems would do it, no doubt. >> to blame the lack of progress on the senate rules is laughable. president trump has yet to suggest a single serious policy proposal. the health care proposal was barely passed by the house. it was on life support there. it is dead on arrival in the senate because of republicans as well as democratic opposition to a plan that cuts 23 million people off health insurance and reinstates pre-existing conditions. his infrastructure proposal is nowhere to be found. he slashes spending and investment on transportation in his budget. so i think that there is a need for republicans and democrats to come together. hopefully we will around serious proposals. it has to be building on the

affordable care act and helping the middle class and establishing jobs. >> senator, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> chris. could president trump on the the brink of changing america's relationship with cuba? why he may reverse president obama's policy. next. hey, i've got the trend analysis. hey. hi. hi. you guys going to the company picnic this weekend? picnics are delightful. oh, wish we could. but we're stuck here catching up on claims. but we just compared historical claims to coverages. but we have those new audits. my natural language api can help us score those by noon. great. see you guys there. we would not miss it. watson, you gotta learn how to take a hint. i love to learn.

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obama's opening to normalize relations with the communist nation. cnn's elise lavot. it is is here with more. >> he met with president raul castro. we are expected as a candidate, donald trump before the election, had looked at business opportunities to take advantage of those openings. since he is elected, he has been taking a harder line. we expect he will rollback some of the regulations, including making it more difficult for americans to travel to cuba. right now it is easy for any american to legally claim that they are going there legally and also he is expected to make it more difficult for business opportunities in cuba. shrink that commercial space and crackdown on the military organizations and working with the military. now we expect that a lot of

these will be cosmetic changes. we don't expect him to officially roll back what president obama opened, but we think it will be more cosmetic changes, chris. >> elise, thank you. we appreciate it. let us know. that policy will be very important. the president's twitter feed has everybody talking again. this is what people are talking about. the most circulated tweet by the president and it is absolute nonsense. why is it dominating so many minds and finger tips? next. when this bell rings... ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business,

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you can actually remember, instantly. add that premium channel, and watch the show everyone's talking about, tonight. and the bill you need to pay? do it in seconds. because we should fit into your life, not the other way around. go to xfinity.com/myaccount words matter, even when they make no sense at all. an unfinished tweet became the viral moment of the day because it came from the most powerful man in the world. just after midnight, bad fact number one, by the way. despite the constant negative press, covfete. that's all there was. it was deleted this morning. president trump sent out this

light hearted response. who can figure out the true meaning of covfete. we've been told the president's tweets speak for themselves. we've been told this is what we should assess, and that's what we will do. let's discuss with john avlon and bill carter. i was surprised by the amount of attention that this tweet got. but it does give one honking message to the president, this is not working for you the way you think it is. >> yeah. i just got to say i'm not sure why covfete is going to be the thing that finally hammers that home. the president has been told by supporters to stop going on twitter, especially late at night. and he still does. yes, this is a great example of an unforced error. simply deeply weird, a made-up

word and it should not inspire confidence in fib. but if anybody has the hope president trump is going to change his behavior right now, that's the hope. >> bill, we have to decide how much weight to give this. is it a window into his psyche. >> his soul. >> his soul as we've been told that his tweets can be. let's in fact recap from the experts on how we are supposed to interpret his tweets. listen to this. >> you are not going to stop him from tweeting. >> if he says something to me or via tweet, that's what he means. >> i think the president's tweet speaks for itself. >> i wish he would sleep more and tweet less. >> bill, how do you see it? >> well, obviously it's a source of humor. it's a crazy word, et cetera. he clearly fell asleep with the phone in his hand, i guess. and, you know, that's just an innocent thing that just

happens. but the country is kind of an edge about a whole lot of things. what was interesting last night is watching a lot of people say, well, does this mean anything? did he have a stroke? people were interpreting in these really outrageous ways, as well as making fun of it. this is a guy that blurted out classified intel to russians in the oval office. the idea he has a phone and he's falling asleep should make some people nervous. wasn't there somebody to say what happened with the president there? it is odd it lasted all that time. >> let's be honest, this is a bobble. this is meaningless. this is getting attention because it is just so transparently weird and from the fingertips of a president late at night. but it is not more important than questions about russia. it is not more important that the kathy griffin controversy in terms of its offensively. but it comes from the white

house. you can't say the tweets speak from the president and that these late night absurdies don't matter and we should ignore them entirely. >> it is just the reflection of an arguetive and wrong minded discussion. you begin the next, which is kathy givriffin. the president tweeted about that as well, that his 11-year-old son is having a hard time with what she did. if you don't know by now, you haven't been alive for the last 24 hours. she held up a picture of the president's severed and bloody head. it was disgusting. she has apologized. but is that enough. bill carter, your take? >> well, i think it was outrageous. when i saw it, i knew it was going to be disastrous for her and the reaction has been very interesting because she's been condemned by left and right.

and of course one has to then say let's look at the other example. let's look at ted nugent. no one worried about his children seeing that. in fact, he was invited to the white house and spent four years getting a tour by the president. >> you know, john, i don't know. that's the good point. there is something almost refreshing that both sides of the aisle can see this as appalling. and that kathy griffin then apologized so quickly for it. >> yeah. i do think that's hopeful. the standard we should be using as americans is if you are offended when it's done by a president to your party, that's the standard you should apply for a president of the other party. this wasn't funny in any way. it was simply a visible bloody threat. that said, i think the key point is it was condemned by democrats, by folks on the left as well as the right. we need to apply those standards

not only when people are saying oh, i'm offended. it is when repeated statements of the nature he did and then campaigns for a candidate and gets a white house tour. that's got to be held consistently, too. >> it is good to know that there is a line that can be crossed. >> apparently. >> in this day and age. yes, i guess that is the line. we found it. >> we found out. >> the question is what will it mean for kathy griffin? we'll have to see. thank you very much. always a pleasure to have you. we are following a lot of news. we have an interview with senator al franken. he has a new book. >> michael flynn is going to hand over a batch of documents to the senate intelligence committee. >> michael cohen made it clear if he is subpoenaed he will testify. >> this group isn't acting like people who don't have anything to hide. >> the white house refusing to deny whether jared kushner sought a secret back channel to

vladimir putin. >> your question presupposed facts that have not been proven. >> he is frustrated to see stories come out that are false and narratives that are wrong to see quote, unquote, fake news. >> powerful car bomb exploded near the german embassy in afghanistan. >> the streets were flooded so we can certainly expect casualties to arise. >> this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. it is wednesday, may 31st, 8:00 in the east and we do have breaking news for you. this out of afghanistan. there was this massive suicide bomb and it has rocked the diplomatic border, killing at least 80 people, injured hundreds more. the blast happened about 400 yards from the german embassy. this bomb was