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dedicating the news channel for america. ted's boldt idea changed the world and the mission of this network has never been more important than it is today. ted certainly alsoing changed the lives of all of us who have worked for cnn. tonight we want to thank ted, thank all our viewers here in the united states and around the world. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >> next breaking news. president trump pulls out of the prisz climate deal. he wants to renegotiate. world leaders say no way. plus did the attorney general lie to congress about his meetings with the russian ambassador? we have new breaking details tonight. the date now set for the former fbi director jim comey to testify. could the president of the united states block him? let's go out front. good evening, i'm erin burnett. "out front" thoent, the breaking news, the united states out. president trump appearing late today in the rose garden announcing he is withdrawing the united states from the paris
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climate accord. trump almost giddy as he made it clear the united states will go its own way. >> the united states will withdraw, so we're getting out, we're out of the agreement. our withdrawal from the agreement. exiting the agreement protects the united states. it is time to fit paris accord. >> he couldn't say it enough. trump insists that the deal would cost america quote billions and billions of dollars, that's what he said today, billions and blgs of dollars, along with massive job losses and factory closings, trump said. but the man and the president has found himself with virtually zero allies on this. right that announcement, they slammed him. the chairman of general electric obviously, massive manufacturer tweeted he was disappointed in the president adding that "industry must now lead and not depend on government." general motors said "we will not
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aterritory from our commitment to the environment." the ceo of goldman sachs tweeting today is a setback for the u.s. in the world. and elon musk, a leading voice for clean energy who had sort of stuck by the president amidst a lot of criticism tonight says he is quiting the president's advisory council. here's the thing. you surprised? after all, the president of the united states is the same man who campaigned on this. >> i'm not a believer in global warming. i'm not a believer in manmade global warming. while the world is in turmoil and falling apart in so many different ways, especially with isis, our president is worried about global warming. what a ridiculous position. it's a money making industry, ok? it's a hoax. a lot of it.
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>> we begin our coverage with sara marie at the white house. sara, the president today as we were playing, giddy, couldn't say we were out of this deal more times than he did. he went into campaign mode. >> absolutely he did. we heard a lot of nationalist america first rhetoric that we heard from president trump on the campaign trail. we didn't hear him come out and say definitely. on a day when he made this monumental decision to pull out of the paris climate accord. >> the bottom line is that the paris acovered is very unfair at the highest level to the united states. >> today president trump is putting a check mark next to one of his key campaign promises. >> so we're getting out. but we will start to negotiate
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and we will see if we can make a deal that's fair and if we can, that's great. and if we can't, that's fine. >> trump announcing the withdrawal from the paris climate agreement in the face of protests from business groups, world leaders and even trump's own daughter, ivanka. critics say it will put the u.s. at a disadvantage on the world stage. trump insisted the paris agreement was bad for u.s. business and bad for the u.s. economy. >> at what point does america get to mean -- at what point do they start laughing at us as a country. >> he's claimed climate change is a hoax but shifted his rhetoric on thurgsz. >> as someone who cares deeply about the environment, which i do -- >> insisting his decision was driven by economic factors rather than his view of global warming. >> this is less the about the climate and more about other countries gaining a financial
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advantage over the united states. >> trump also left the door open to striking a new climate deal with the help of democrats in washington. >> so if the obstructionists want to get together with me, let's make them nonobstructionists. we will all sit down and get back into the deal and we'll make it good and we won't be closing up our factories. the move toed with draw distances the united states from nearly every nation on the globe. just two countries, syria and nicaragua refused to signed on to the agreement to curb climate change. it also scratches off another campaign trail promise, one that's sure to be cheered by trump's conservative base. >> i was elected to represent the citizens of pittsburgh, not paris. >> plenty of democrats have slammed president trump's move today. among them, former president
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obama. it was under his administration that this deal was negotiated. he said this will diminish america's position on the world stage. >> sara, thank you. tonight the outrage swiflt, direct. michelle kuczynski is out front. the president saying he's going to renegotiate a new deal, right? but that just might not happen. >> reporter: for years the united states has been twisting arms trying to get countries on board with this deal. so for the rest of the world to see the u.s. start the process of pulling out, the action was immediate. a mix of regret, deep disappointment and some snark. france, germany and italy said that the paris agreement is a vital instrument for the world and that it cannot be
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renegotiated. president trump left that door open but they seem to be slamming it right back shut. the french president saying in english that it's everybody's responsibility to make the planet great again. we heard the president of the european commission saying he doesn't think president trump fully understands how the deal works. the vatican calling the pull ooult disaster for the planet. china calling it reckless, and irresponsible. there are foreign policy experts including ones who have felt in republican administrations who feel this will have the greatest diminishing effect of u.s. influence around the world, more than willing to check in and fill that leadership void, especially on the environment. erin? >> thank you very much, michelle. we're learning more about how this decision went down.
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shortly after the president made this announcement, i had a chance to briefly speak the transportation secretary wilbur ross. here's what he told me. when it came down to the ultimate decision, was this the president's decision alone to leave this agreement? >> well, it wasn't his decision alone. screen shot pruitt weighed in on it, i weighed in on it. lots of people weighed in on it. one of the good things about this president is he encourages hearing all points of view aggressively before he makes his final decision. so i think it's a very, very healthy thing that he heard from both point of views of view, maybe more than two point of views of view prior to coming to what's a very big decision. >> but he listened to recollection tillerson and others who wanted the u.s. to stay in the paris accord? >> well, herve had a different view. at the end of the day we're simply advisors to the president. our job is to give him our
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opinions as to what's best for the country but he's the one the american public elected. he's the one who has to make the decision. >> up front front david gergen, john avelon, and jason miller former senior communications advisor for the trump campaign. this was a landmark global agreement, right? there were only two countries today that were not privy to its. now the united states joins that group. is this an unpress dented decision? >> yes. and i'm sorry to say this, but erin, listen, some 70 years ago, the united states entered an international agreement called the marshall blaj we came to the aid of europe. it was one of the noebelest acts in human history. today we've walked away from the rest of the world and it's one of the most shameless attacks around the world. it's a terrible setback for the
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planet. we represent as a country 4% of the world's population, but we represent about a third of all the excess carbon dioxide just warming the planets. we're the largest contributor of carbon dioxide in the world. as we walk away from that, it's grotesquely irresponsible. it's true that the nations that are going to faye greatest price for global warming are the poorest countries of the world mpltd and yet they've -- for us to walk away from that is immoral. >> grotesquely irresponsible, one of the most shameful acts in our history. >> i see it in a different lens. first and fore most i think it was great that the president up held another campaign promise. pittsburgh, knots paris, i loved that. for all of the sky is falling rhetoric coming from the left,
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al gore's jet is going to take off just fine tomorrow. whether it may have been a binary choice to stay or leave, it's not a binary choice. erin, there's one bigger thing i vnlts seen anyone talking about a all. that's the political impact of this move today. i think that the lack of advertising efforts and lack of a political push we saw from the left and from the democrats on this simply because their base is split -- >> ok. but -- >> and the way the president -- >> the politics -- politics important here. john, let me ask you this question. because what i think is important and the point up tried to make at the top of the spram i almost don't care about the politics. the reality is he says it's going to save jobs. after ceo and ceo and ceo in the industry say it's a lie.
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they say the future is investing in green jobs. you see bob ago er pulling out along with elon musk. i could go on and on and on. watch the business networks. this is not a politics reality. it's a dollars and cents reality. >> the president said this was about defending american jobs. he said it was american business leaders disagreeing with them. so this is about playing politics inside the whoiite hou. ites about the nationalist wing of the white house hijacking it and the globalists being quotes unquote defeated. this is on its face bs because it's not being backed up by the ceos. >> ice not but let me give you this. in the united states solar, ok,
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374,000 american jobs, colbertly 160,000 american jobs. this is the department of energy statistics. the growth is in alternative energy. >> the reason they call them green job is because they're so expensive to create. many of these green jobs aren't self-establishble afternoon putting money into them. i want to go back to when i was talking about the political realities of this. when i was talking about the democratic base is splits. this is where so many of the people in the corridor and new york and washington don't get where the rest of the country is on this. if we fought with both our hands tied behind our back, we would loose several -- >> those statistics -- >> no, no. >> those statistics aren't -- >> you can't tell me to stop.
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>> stop, jason. you're not listening to me. >> joe -- you have no right. >> absolutely not. >> that's -- >> you're a republican. >> no. you can't say that. those are absolutely true. >> i'll give you a chance to respond. >> john, john -- >> jason. >> john -- >> stop talking. >> hold on one second. jason -- >> no. >> hold on guys i'm the anchor of the program. please be quiet for a second. let john go. go ahead. >> the reason it's called an acover aaccords is it's essentially optional to opt out of it is a political decision that flies in the face of not only the vast majority of americans, democrats and republicans, any preapproved spin being given out by the white house. >> i think it's shameful you
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would allow the chinese to continue another 13 years without cutting carbon migs and the united states would have to reduce -- >> you might -- >> that's not -- >> china, india's not going to follow it. the u.s. is a country that follows the rule of law, that we would have enfortsment mechanisms whereas these other countries wouldn't do it. you can try to talk louder, shout me down. the facts is that the stats are on our side. >> no they're not. >> and that's the reality. >> absolutely. >> this is an argument that they're making, that china, as an example, is allowed to let its emissions go until 2030. wilbur ross described that to me as a feeble deal? is there any truth that? >> the enforcement deals are feeble. let's face a larger reality here
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and that is that the 20th century was the american century. the way we're actsing now 21st century is going to become china's. it's taking the leadership flag away from the united states. we increasingly across the world, i will tell you, especially in europe, there's a lot of people who are going to see this as the united states is now in the hands of a mad man of some sort. they don't get it. they're upset about it. and they believe that china is the country that's going to benefit middle east in the united states pulling back. >> today american workers will benefit and that's the difference. >> all right. we'll leave it there. thank you all very much. next, did jeff sessions commit perjury live? that's the charge. plus officials who met with every person named in the trump vex. jeanne moos does her best sean spicer. >> hey, turn that off.
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general sessions lied under oath during his confirmation hearings. this as congress verse try to find out if sessions hat a third and an third undisclosed bheegt the russian ambassador. >> reporter: democratic law enforcement called on the fbi to investigate whether attorney general jeff segs lied to senators after it was revealed in march that sessions had met twice with sergey kislyak despite that answer from sessions during his confirmation hearing. >> i did not have communications with the russians. >> senators al franken and patrick leahy asked three times for an investigation into false testimony and any undisclosed contacts he may have had with russian officials. franken and leahy have not yet received any response to the letters. congress investigators are looking at the possibility
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sessions had a third undisclosed private meeting with ambassador kislyak at the may flower hoteling in 2016. >> if it's true, it's extremely disturbing and i'd rather let it come out. >> the department of justice responded saying the facts haven't changed. the then senator did not have any side or private conversations at the hotel. meanwhile, the intelligence committee issued seven new subpoenas including three seeking details of the purported unmasking of u.s. residents by susan rice, john brennan and samantha power. a source says these subpoenas came directly from chairman deven nun etz. >> this is what the white house wants to see happen. >> chairman nunez fired back on twitter. seeing a lot of fake news from media leads and others who have
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no interest in unmaskings. meanwhile russianant vladimir putin talked about president trump at the st. peters berg economic forum. >> he is a straightforward ss man. you can't really classify him as a traditional politician. this is a person with a fresh view of things wlchlt you like him or not, but this always very often brings something good. >> and the date is now set for fired fbi director james comey to speak out publicly before the senate intelligence committee. it will be next thursday one week from today. he's expected to detail his conversations with the president including whether president trump urged him to drop the fbi's investigation into michael flynn and flynn's ties to russia. some believe that could amount to obstruction of justice. >> jessica, thank you. let's go to mark preston, nina
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backos and richard. richard, welcome to the cnn family, by the way. i know you're now part of our legal analysts. the attorney general are looking into whether there was a third meeting with did russian ambassador that was undisclosed. senators are saying that he could have purgered himself in this meeting inl deed occurred. how significant is this tonight? >> looking into is different than showing that such a meeting occurred. >> yes. >> so i would rather not jump to conclusions, let's see if there's any evidence that there was a private. >> right. and if there was -- so if there wasn't, there's nothing there the there. if it was. >> it would add to the other information we already have that was serious enough to cause the attorney general to recuse himself from any further involvement in the investigation of the russian interference with our elections. >> the reason, mark, that this would be very significant and
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the fact that they are looking into this, the attorney general had to clarify, right, as we all know. he was asked about meetings with kislyak and he said he didn't have any. here's his explanation as to why he didn't disclose those meetings in those here's. >> i did not respond by referring to the two meetings, one very brief after a speech and one with two of my senior staffers professional staffers with the russian ambassador, where no such things were discussed. >> mark, right, first in the confirmation hearings when he was asked about meetings he said he had none. then we foinld out there were two which he says were not about the campaign. if there is a third, how significant, how damaging is this -- would this be for the attorney general? >> it would be incredibly significant and damaging. you would probably see calls for a resignation. we don't know if in fact a
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meeting has happened which causes us to put a red flag up and say what do the snertsds know? why don't they send letters to the d.o.ful j. asking them. if they are going on a fishing expedition, then that is political malpractice on the democrats' part. however, if they actually do know something they should come forward instead of trying to launlder it, it appears, through the department of justice. >> neata? >> i think from a an intelligence perspective, even if sessions hadn't scheduled this meeting, if he happened to run into kislyak, this is still something you would document and talk about. he didn't just run into the prime minister of the uk. it's an adversary we deal with very carefully from that perspective, you're very careful about what you discuss let alone disclose. >> richard, this all comes in the context of james comey. as you heard jessica report,
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going to testify next thursday. that is going to be a crucial moment. is it possible the president could invoke presidential privilege and stop that testimony? >> i don't think so. i don't think on a legal basis since the president has already commented on what's happened in those meetings, three times you told me i wasn't the subject of the investigation. >> that's -- because he's talking about it, he wouldn't be able to claim it. >> but going back to the kislyak potential meeting, one of the things that we have heard about is the over hear and perhaps somebody else can throw more light on it and that is, did kislyak or smbl on the russian intelligence have a conversation with someone else that was overheard that suggested that there was this other contact. so that's another possibility and again it's rank speculation.
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>> right. >> but one of the things that the russians, in fact, putin was arguably concerned about was loose talk by his people about their contacts with the trump organization. >> yes. and this comes as putin today said that russian hackers who were "patriotically mind ed may have medaled in the u.s. election." that's pretty big. he's still saying not the russian government but now he's saying atri othericly minded russians could have interfered in the u.s. election. >> right. well, i think this is just his way to cover up them medaling in our election. the lengths they went to were involved. they put out fake news stories. they had social media bots spanning media continues. you can't really deny it at this
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point. i think this is his best cover story so far. >> interesting that he's startsing to make up a cover story as if the iron is getting hot. thank you very much. attorney general session sgs is the only one in the trump administration. global affairs elise labbin is out front. how tangled is the kislyak-trump web? >> it's very tangled, erin. ambassador kislyak is so prominent in washington but now he is at the center of the investigation into russia and really in the thick of the storm. ambassador sergey kislyak is at the center of the investigation of ties between russia and the trump campaign. u.s. officials consider him a spy and a spy recruit ever. a charge that the kremlin denies but he raised eyebrows when he
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appeared with president trump in the oval office. he's been in contact with several of trump's inner circle during the campaign and the transition. attorney general jeff sessions met with kislyak at the republican national convention in july and again in september at his senate office. secret talks that forced him to recuse himself from the russia probe. >> i never had meetings with russian operatives or russian intermediaries about the trump campaign. >> kislyak was front and center at then candidate trump's first major policy address at the may flower hotel. >> an improved relations with russia from a position of strength only is possible. >> cnn first reported that now congressional investigators believe sessions and kislyak may have met on the sidelines of that speech as well. but the justice department denies any private talks there.
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trump's son-in-law and closest advisor jared kushner also met kislyak during the transition, including on september 1st at trump tower where sources say he proposed a secret communications channel which the white house said would have relied on russia. his attorney said kushner quote has no recollection of the calls as described. another point of contact, president trump's former national security advisor, michael flynn. ultimately fired over lying ability his communications with kislyak. and two campaign advisors, page and jordan met with kislyak last summer on the sidelines of the republican convention. >> meeting is a technical term. i said hello to him a couple times. >> and kislyak's powerful network in washington made him
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one of the most poichl ambassadors here and highs been here for nearly a decade and has served over some of the most difficult periods in u.s.-russia relations since the end of the cold war. he's expected to end his post by the end of the year and is up for a top job in the united nations. >> up now, republican congressman dana roar backer. great to have you with us. i appreciate. . when you look at this, congressman, knots a single meeting between the trump associates and ambassador weren't disclosed, not until the meetings leaked to the press. could they have avoided all of this if they had just disclosed these meetings? if they are so insubstantial in nature? >> well, they wrnltd substantial in nature. you're putting sinister words out there to make it sound like something sinister is hang. someone meets someone in
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passing, that's considered a meeting. one guy -- oh, attorney general sessions didn't remember that he had a third conversation with this man instead of two. how sinister is that? come on! this is -- >> but you say -- >> much to do about nothing. >> ok. >> that is just incredible. >> the reason -- >> go ahead. >> -- i raise this question, that is possible that that's the case. but -- >> how many meetings did the democrats have at that time. >> not single but these were members of the trump campaign. trump associates, right. >> all right. how many people -- >> ok. wait a minute. i'm going to ask you right now. if you think they should know that, how many meetings did hillary clinton and her people have, especially in trying to set up these pooip type of contributions to the clinton foundation and the speeches that her husband would be giving and receiving money for. how many -- >> congressman -- of the united states but she's not. donald trump is. >> oh, donald trump was not --
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oh, holt on, hold on! >> much more significant right now. >> no, no, no, no! half of what you're talking ability is when he was running. ok. when he was running for president but you don't know that about hillary because you haven't looked into millions of dollars from russian ol garks going in there. you're trying to make this look like attorney general sessions is doing something sinister because he forget that he'd had one extra conversation with the russian ambassador who is supposed to have all kinds of meetings with people. come on. >> what i'm asking you is if it wasn't -- >> yes. >> -- sinister, why didn't they tell us about i would? we don't know if it was sinister or not. >> well -- >> failed to disclose meeting after meeting after meeting. >> no it wasn't meeting after meeting. attorney general sessions had three inner tie -- i don't know how long the conversation lasted. he had three of them over a long period oofr time and during that time he had thousands of meetings and thousands of
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conversations. you're trying to make it look sinister that he only rebelled two of them. come on! get real! this is -- >> i've made a point of what i think the fair question which is why they were not disclosed. >> ok. yeah. >> that is a crucial question. >> ok. >> because you're giving your side of this congressman, i want to ask you something tsh. >> right. thank you. >> -- your knowledge with russia. you have contact with russians. you've been very open b about it. back in the 1990s you met vladimir putin. you said i arm wrestled him in a bar. that's a lighter one but in april you met we will alleged soviet spy. >> wait a minute. when did i meet with an amgd soviet spy? >> that was in april. le. >> no, no. that was ten years ago. it's ok. >> ok. >> that was ten years ago i was warned by the fbi that one of
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the guys it talk to was a soviet intelligence guy and i treat everybody from the russian embassy, everybody from all the other baess -- >> our reporting is that it was in april of 2017. i can just go on our reporting. >> no. not if you reported it. it happened ten years before that. >> the new york times is report that the fbi warned you. they're saying the fbi warned you in 2012 -- >> right. >> that russian spies were trying to recruit you specifically, congressman. you've denied it. >> that was one five years ago and one ten years ago as well. >> are you aware that they tried to recruit you? >> i was aware that when people -- whatever embassy is talking to me, especially the russian embassy they are trying to do the job of their government, which intelligence -- and you assume they are intelligence people. all of us do that. that's why there is so many meetings angds you're ignoring
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all the meetings that hillary and all the other guys went through even when there's money being transferred and now you want to focus on that. ok. the answer is i'm always aware that anybody from the russian embassy is probably involved in intelligence. le. >> and i imagine part of the reason you're aware of that is that you are a sophisticated washington player. you've been in congress for nearly 30 years, so you understand -- >> i was a special assistant to the president. i actually fauts russians in afghanistan. i've been engaged in the fight against soviet aggression all my life. >> so -- >> -- from the time i'm a teenager. >> and i'm saying you're a sophisticated player. >> yes, i am. >> unwittingly becoming a spy and you found out john brennan said people can become witting or unwitting spies for russia. you're aware of the risks when you had all these meetings.
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do you think that jared kushner tried to end around the system to talk to putin contacts, to avoid become an unwitting russian asset? >> sure, he did. i imagine when he got back, he was able to accurately portray to them what he'd been talking about. of course, he's surrounded by spertsds. >> so you have no dern -- >> in the white house. he was a -- >> meetings whether it be with sergey kislyak or the chairman of the bank. >> first of all, an ambassador is supposed to see all oz vr of these people, that's number one. the russian ambassador is supposed to see -- and again, whether this young man had the experience enough to understand everything that was being said and the maneuvers that were going on, when he got back to the white house, i'm sure he talked to the people he works with. he was surrounded by them. and -- >> which congressman brings me
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back to the question -- >> in in the beginning. >> ok. if we take your point as a fair one, then when he was filling out his national security form why would he have not included this meeting. if it was important enough for him to know that it was important to talk to people around him, wouldn't it be important enough to disclose on your national security cheerns form? >> i don't see anything serious about people who make paperwork mistakes and sometimes when they've had thousands of conversations to forget they had an extra one, you can make that sound sinister but nowhere near as sinister as what you're ignoring with hillary's people taking millions of dollars. >> they tried to tell people around them. >> no, no. no it's not a contradictory statement. when someone meets you because they happen to be someone who works for the russian embassy,
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maybe they wanted to talk about how we could have space cooperation, something like that. there are a lot of areas we can cooperate with the russians. that's what i'm all ashlt. i think we should -- instead of talking about russia as in it's still the soviet union we should find ways we can use them defeat radical islamic terrorists. cooperation rather than hoz tillity i believe is best for america. i've been called a soviet dupe for that. >> yes, you have. and i want to ask you about that before we go. >> ok. le. >> the washington post recently obtained a recording of kevin mccarthy and he was talking about you and trump and putin. he said there's two people i think he pays. roar backer and trump. he later tried to say he was joking. what do you even -- >> yeah. >> even say about you? >> let me ask you this. did you hear the tape? >> we have not heard the tape.
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the washington post has it. >> no. it's been played over and over again. it's been played over and over glen. you didn't hear the tape. i'll tell you what's on the tape. laughter! >> he said he was joking but i'm asking you why -- >> that's why he said it and that's why -- why? because i am someone sbheeks his mind. i am advocating something that a lot of other people aphrasefrayed to add indicate because they'll be called names and be made fun of. i think it is so serious with the radical islamic terrorist movement that are murdering both russians and americans, it's imperative that we work with the russian instead of treateding them like a hostile power. i'm going to get -- >> congressman, you're saying that we need to work with them with it comes to radical islamic terror mplgts. >> and others things, too. >> he said that vladimir putin is a greater threat than isis.
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let me play you what he said. >> i think he's the premier and most important threat, more so than isis. >> is he right or wrong? >> john mccain, the guy who wants to go to war everywhere in the world, ok, that's fine. mccain is a war hero and we know that. but the fact is that does not make him right on this at all. his -- the fact is use your common sense when radical islamic terrorists are murdering our people all over the world, trying to shake the courage of the west and cower us away and we need to work with russia to defeat that force. and those people who don't think so and are always trying to find some negative thing and russia has lots of negative things to bring up, and you got to try to find those areas that you can work on and otherwise it's harmful to our security not to do that. >> congressman -- >> all sorts of personal criticism and people making jokes acts it. but i'm going to keep it up
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saying the truth because that's what's good. donald trump has that same kind of courage. >> thank you. i appreciate your time. i enjoyed our conversation. thank you. >> thank you. god blegs. >> next, hillary clinton sounding off again on her election loss. is she taking any responsibility for it? we're going to wyoming coal country where miners support trump and the environments. can they have it both ways? >> we're coal miners but we care about this planet. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that's the power of and.
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president trump. >> i've won races, i've lost races, i've never felt the way i feel about this. we're living in such an abnormal time when we look at the way that this white house is behaving about some of the biggest challenges we face, the dis honesty and fabrication and whether you call it fake news or lies, pick your choice. it is deeply troubling. and it is also worrisome that it could cause lasting damage to our institutions. >> "out front," the chairman of the democratic national committee tom perez. tharm, thank you for being me. >> good to see you. >> she spoke yesterday about why she lost. i wanted to play a brief clip of that for you. >> look, i take responsibility for every decision i make but that's not why i lost. i inherit nothing from the democratic party. >> what do you mean nothing?
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>> i mean it was bankrupt. it was on the verge of insolvency. its data was mediocre to poor. nonexist enlt, wrong. i had to inject money into it. >> all right. she calls your organization mediocre to poor. is the dnc the real reason she lost? >> well, you know, my focus, erin, has not simply been on 2016 and what happened there but the fact that we lost over 900 seats over the last eight years. what it reflects is we have to up our game at the dnc. i have great respect for our staff but when you have a size 7 budget and a size 14 need that's not enough. that's why we're investing in the basics, including technological innovation. i'm very excited about the tech team that we've put together. i'm very excited about our
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investments in our grass roots organizing, including the resistant summer we're undertaking. when you don't invest in organizing, in the training of candidates, technology to the extent that you need to, then you're not investing in that basic infrastructure and that's a big part of how we lost a lot of elections over the last eight years and that's what we're trying to change. >> obviously you weren't there at the time at the dnc. i want to make that clear. part of what she's saying is true. the other thing she said there was i take responsibility for every decision i made but that's not why i lost. she went on to blame jim comey and the media among other things for her loss. president trump saw this and responded in a tweet as he is oft to do saying crooked hillary clinton blanls everybody but himself. even democrats and the dmc.
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joe biden said i never thought she was a great candidate. are you disappointed that she still seems to be failing to recognize her own flaws. >> we're totally focused on the future at the dnc. you remember barack obama correctly said she's one of the most qualified candidates in american history. we did not win that >> what we're doing at the dnc, we're focused on the future. what we have to do is number one, change our mission. that's what we've done, we're here to elect school board candidates. and we're trying to help john osoff and i think he will win that race. i'm trying to make sure we build the organization for success, technology and that's how we will succeed. >> i know you think you will win that special election in georgia, hotly contested.
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we will get that in a couple of weeks. we ask you about the future. the former vice president joe biden launched a pac, political action committee and some see it as showing interest to run. he will be 78 on inauguration day the next time around? is he a candidate for the future? >> i have profound respect for him and what he stands for and always stands for and what he has done for this nation, distinguished career of public service dating back almost 50 years. that's a decision he'll make and a decision or presidential candidates will make. my job at the dnc is make sure we have a transparent process and everybody is treated equally and i'm focused like a laser to make sure we do that. >> all right.
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breaking news, the backlash building after president trump announced he's pulling the united states out of the climate deal from america's biggest key allies to biggest corporations and the outrage in the new york "daily news" very critical of the president. trump to world, drop dead. it fits with politics and business leaders as well. the president says his reason is to protect american businesses. specifically he talked about coal. he said it will put coal miners back to work. in coal country there is mixed feelings. >> reporter: in most of america, coal used to be king. in wyoming, it still is. wyoming accounts for 40% of america's coal production and a significant number of coal miners here are women.
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>> you start for the obvious reasons, the money and benefits and security. then it turns into something you eventually you don't know anything else, you just -- you start to love it. >> reporter: they work in an industry that's demanding and dominated by men. >> it gives you strength when you know you can go out there and compete and do what everyone else does, like she said, as good if not better than they do. >> reporter: strength isn't the only thing they have in common. >> who voted for president trump? >> i had a little bit reservations of him as a person and the way that he is, voting-wise, no. >> reporter: do you think he's being treated fairly? >> no. i think it's awful. >> reporter: what about all those campaign promises trump made to bring coal mining jobs back. >> have you seen that? >> yes. there has been more jobs in the base open up, there has been. >> reporter: thousands of jobs?
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>> i wouldn't say thousands. >> i know 250 have been re-hired, within the base and within the 10 or 12 mines that we have here. >> reporter: jodi, that's not the numbers that he promised? >> i think it's a process. >> reporter: part of that process, they say, is easing environmental restrictions on coal, something trump did by taking america out of the paris climate agreement. but it's here, these coal miners split. >> i wish he hadn't just because it makes us seem as though we're not in with the rest of the world in combatting climate change. we're coal miners but we care about this planet. that's also our -- it's our responsibility to take care. >> i was in favor of him pulling out. i think the united states itself is responsible for the united states. >> i think we need to focus on the united states first and
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foremost in making us great again. >> reporter: do you believe climate change is a real thing? >> no. >> not really. >> i am not a climate change denier, but i do believe that we certainly have an impact, but i think we can lessen that in a responsible way that doesn't -- that doesn't put entire groups of people out of work. >> reporter: for many of these miners, there were only two issues that mattered last november. jobs and energy. nothing has changed. show of hands who would vote the same? here in wyoming, it's home to some of the largest coal pit mines in the world. even as the coal miners are split, so are the coal companies. peabody coal known as peabody energy say there's okay pulling out of that energy accord, cloud
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peak energy wishes the united states had remained in. the impact on this state is still divided because they have also invested heavily in alternative energy. >> martin, thank you very much. we all need to understand the story. thanks for joining us. ac "360" starts now. >> good evening, the president of the united states kept a campaign promise with globe aim packets on the jobs and oceans in the world and whether they rise or fall. and he announced his intention to be one of three in this country, nicaragua and syria and now the united states. the president said he was striking a blow that would hamstring industry and put the country at a global disadvantage. he said he's elected to represent pittsburgh and not paris. the pittsburgh mayor is here and