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the document leaked was the same one detailed in the intercept's article. this document an issue describes an attempted cyber hack by russian military intelligence on u.s. voting supply software supplier last year. while there's no evidence that any votes were affected by the hack, the document does provide new details spoke potential vulnerabilities in voting systems. prosecutors say winner was caught because the news outlet sent a copy of the document over to the government for authentication before the story was published. they could see pages and to have a crease before printed out. investigators did an audit of who precipitated the document and traced it all back to her. she's facing serious charges carrying up to 10 years in prison. her lawyer says she's simply been caught in the middle of something bigger than her. alisyn, chris. >> thank you very much.
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let's bring in our all-star panel to talk about all this, this breaking news. we have cnn political analyst maggie hagerman and david gregory, chris cillizza and senior analyst jeffrey toobin. let me start with you. this arrest, 25 yearly young woman with the most 21st century name i've ever heard. reality winner who has now been arrested and could be. >> randy: under espionage act for handing over these classified documents from the nsa. what do you see here? >> if the facts are as the government alleged, this is a very simple case, a contractor, like a government employee, has an obligation to keep secret materials secret. she intentionally and knowingly shared it with "the intercept." that's a crime. unfortunately we as journalists rely on leakers like this who
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take these sorts of risk but -- >> can't she be considered a whistleblower instead of a spy? >> there is not a distinction there. if you have a top secret document and you essentialally share it, there's no excuse, there's no explanation, you're caught. >> whistleblower statute is very specific. it anticipates certain types of revealing of things mi misconstrued. she also admitted it, didn't she jeffrey? >> whistleblowers aren't allowed to take classified information and give it to the press. if it's classified you have to go through channels if you don't do through your agency. >> my point is she didn't share it with the russians, media outlet. >> classified information.
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>> this is moral ambiguity. >> it's about the law. >> the problem is we have been treated, and i mean that, to wonderful investigative reporting "new york times," "washington post," colleagues at cnn that involved at times disclosures of classified information. but our sources take tremendous risks. this is a risk they take. she, it appears, got caught in a very bad place. >> david gregory, the substance of what she leaked, that there may have been attempts by russian connected hackers to try to get into software companies that had partial control of electoral machines, what are indications politically? >> i thought for a long time, more evidence of the fact president trump has put his own sense of insecurity and legitimacy as president ahead of actually responding to an attack on our democracy. those are words from senator
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john mccain and other republicans who considered what the russians did, attempting to interfere in our lec as an attack. why haven't they taken steps to retaliate, safeguard or democratic system. that's a separate system from whether it actually received the result. there's no indication the russians actually tilted the election in favor of donald trump, though it seems he tried. yet his ego and those of his advisers seem to get in the way of dealing with this substance and doing something about it. >> although, maggie, this goes further than anything we heard. the revelation she revealed to intercept. this is not hacking dnc, hacking john podesta's e-mails, this is trying to interfere with election officials, 122 of them across the country and voting software supplier. this is a different, a new wrinkle. >> it's a new wrinkle except we
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don't know how far it does. the emphasis to do that. we don't have any reason to believe yet there was some substantial result from what was efforted. but look, it will add another layer, as you say, to those who are saying the russian efforts to go at the u.s. election we are deeper than believed. certainly media has tried to move past russia too fast. i think it all goes back to david's point, though. there's two things the president can say in response to all of this, e-mail hacks, doesn't delegitimize my election but outrageous and wrong for somebody to interfere. the president has time and again chosen not to do that and that's a human problem. >> this plays into it directly because it is clear the president hears anything that has to do with russia and interference as bad for him, this even will cut a little
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closer to the quick. probably he'll ignore it or if he comes out about it, it's not going to be pretty. >> let's remember this is a president who for the first, how long have we been, four months, he spent three of those months reminding everyone who asked or sometimes people who didn't ask, he won the electoral college, no one said he could, picked that log. it's to maggie's points. he cannot deal with the fact he lost the popular vote. remember, 3 to 5 million votes, -- cast illegal votes. if they wouldn't, i would have won. waiting on that commission's report. when donald trump hears russia he doesn't hear this an assault across a foreign government across a lot of spectrums to meddle with, delegitimatize an american election. that's an historic thing that needs action.
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what he hears is anyone who says russia, they are trying to say i didn't win fair and square. so it's about him. it's not about the country. as a result, he's never gotten beyond it. if donald trump believes in his heart of hearts that he has nothing to hide, this whole russian thing is a smoke screen you should be throwing at bob mueller's feet saying what can i do to help you. >> we will all hear fired director james comey's testimony because, jeff, the white house will not invoke executive privilege. so what do we anticipate? >> well, we're doing to hear about these conversations that took place between president trump and director comey and what efforts, if any, trump took to secure comey's loyalty, personal loyalty to him. and most importantly any efforts
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trump might have made to shut down the investigation that we're just talking about here about russian interference in the election. obviously the big looming question over this testimony will be, will there be evidence that people can fairly interpret. that is the fair question that will be addressed by comey's testimo testimony. >> david gregory, no real indication the white house was going to block the testimony. when he gets up there, is there a chance democrats will be greatly disappointed by what comey said, it will be somewhat in deference to mueller, wanting to preserve some things out of friendship or some sense of duty or there's not that much there that goes to a crime? >> they might be disappointed. maybe it's more in the realm of politics. maybe in the realm of potential interference that falls short of a crime. so if that's the only
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expectation, people may be disappointed. i don't know. i think the other question that jeffrey is alluding to, if james comey thought that the president was interfering, maybe even on trukting, who did he tell about it? who did he report to, or did he feel he had this under control. the whole debate about executive privilege and all that, can you imagine invoking that, whether legal justification for it. it would only show that the president had something to hide, which is what apparently did when he fired the guy investigating him and tried to secure his loyalty. there's enough here that bears more explanation that i think will be highly embarrassing. >> maggie, there you have it. a lot of people can't imagine many things, couldn't have imagined many things that happened, such as firing fbi director in the middle of an investigation. what are you looking for? >> a couple of things. look, it's going to be interesting to see what james
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comey says about things we have reported on, things others have reported on about his conversations with the president. i'm confidence he will be skask about that. previously there will be limits on what he can talk about in terms of russia specifically. i think what he says about the president will be interesting. i also think, look, one unanswered area for me, one gray area, this whole time has been we saw in the letter, termination letter, dismissal letter, whatever you want to call it the president sent to james comey he sent the throwaway times you told me three times i wasn't under investigation. obviously whether it belonged in that letter is under investigation. i'm curious to see what comey said he said when asked by the president on this issue. >> that will be an unvanished moment. will comey answer it and will he say the president of the united states is full of it when it comes to what he told him about being under investigation. >> maybe he's not. we'll find out. >> we will know one way or
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another on thursday, assuming comey is open to the questions that come his way. that's going to be must-see tv. in fact, "new day" is going to start an hour early, 5:00 a.m. eastern on thursday in anticipation. cnn's special coverage will begin at 9:00. comey's testimony supposed to start at 10:00 a.m. eastern. >> we will bring it all to you. when it comes to president trump's travel ban, the president and his own staff cannot seem to get on the same page about what it is. are the president's tweets undermining his legal defense? we discuss that with the panel next. ♪ ♪ for those who create their own path.
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again contracting his own aides. the white house says the president is not picking a fight against london's mayor despite renewing his attack in another tweet. cnn gentlemen johns has been following all this. he's live at the white house with more. hello, joe. >> alisyn, we have seen this script before. the president not only undercutting his own aides but potentially undermining the latest agenda. an example of that, the president putting a big emphasis on his travel ban at a time the white house is trying to promote his plans to improve the nation's transportation
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infrastructu infrastructure. president trump defiant against insisting trying to stop travel from six muslim majority countries should be called a travel ban. a direct contradiction from this statement from his deputy press secretary hours before. >> i don't think the president cares what you call it, whether you call it a ban, whether you call it a restriction, he cares that we call it national security. >> previous criticism of reporter for calling it a travel ban. >> when we use words like travel ban, that misrepresents what it is. >> the husband of top aide kellyanne conway, a leading republican lawyer, warning that the president's latest tweet storm may have repercussions if and when the case goes before the supreme court. >> this obsession with covering everything he says on twitter and very little of what he does as president. >> that's his preferred method of communication with the american people. >> that's in the true. >> administration appearing to downplay the importance of the president's tweets. >> it's social media, chris. >> it's not social media. it's his words, his thoughts.
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>> not policy, not an executive order, it's social media. please understand the difference. >> after touting twitter as an essential part of the president's strategy for months. >> donald trump's twitter platform is a purrful way for him to connect with people. >> president trump escalating his fight with london's mayor in the wake of saturday's terror attack accusing mayor sadiq khan of offering a pathetic excuse when he advised londres dents not to be alarmed. khan offering scathing response when asked about president trump's visit to the uk. >> i don't think we should roll out the red carpet to the president of the usa in circumstances where his policies go against everything we stand for. >> so still looking for a reset here at the white house this morning, the president will try to get the train back on the tracks by meeting with congressional leaders today with the focus once again on the top agenda items. chris and alisyn. >> all right, joe.
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bring back panel, maggie haberman, chris cillizza, jeffrey toobin, david gregory. let's deal with the easy question first. it is absurd to hear from anybody that the president's tweets don't matter. we have been told nothing else by the president of the united states himself and by everybody around him when convenient, case in point, they put out the big guns yesterday, kellyanne conway, sebastian gorka to say you media, you focus on the tweets, you should focus on what matters. the president chose london terror attack to tweet about the travel ban and what he wanted. that was on him, listen to dpork, a adporgorka and huckabee sanders talk about it. >> it's social media. >> it's not social media. it's his words, his thoughts. >> not policy, not an executive order, it's social media. please understand the difference. >> i think social media for the president is extremely
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important. it gives him the ability to speak directly to the people without the bias of the media filtering those types of communications. he has over 100 plus million contact through social media and all those platforms. >> cillizza, thank god for the media, otherwise you won't know what the heck to believe coming out of people. it's like they are foes with each other, like they don't work for the same place. >> look, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. either twitter isn't something making potomac policy, isn't important, shouldn't be obsessed over, or it's the direct way to reach the public and an incredibly powerful social media platform. you don't get to have both those things be true at the same time. by the way, hours after she said he doesn't care what you call it, he tweeted he cares what you call it. so look, to me, maggie and i were talking about this off air,
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i think -- i think maggie agrees with me -- his tweets are more important in many ways than what huckabee sanders, sean spicer, kellyanne conway official statement, guess what, it's him doing. it's a most direct line spoke his brain, what he's thinking at any one time. it's not manufactured, not put through the spin cycle. it's him and his phone. >> maggie, we know that you agree with that because you, too, are trying to figure out if these constitute official statemen statements. in this social media age, how can he not be official statements they come, as chris says, from his own brain and finger tips. >> i'm not trying to figure it out, these are the president's statements. if he wants other words he could do a press conference and answer questions. he could submit to interviews he
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was proud of doing early in the administration. he could answer a single question from a journalist on his lengthy foreign trip. he hasn't done any of that. what he has done, it's funny listening to the administration or some of the administration take on the argument we shouldn't focus so heavily on the tweets. that's the arguments democrats used to use during the campaign and early on in this administration. don't focus on the tweets, what matters is x, y, z. no, this is what matters. this is what he thinks. he has said repeatedly. he described it as his own media venture, why wouldn't we focus on it. >> there's an obsession the president has with being outrageous and being at the center of the news story. that's not going to change. what unimportant is what all these white house aides say it will be long forgotten by tomorrow because it's ridiculous. what matters is he's president of the united states. on june 6th we celebrate leadership in this country. we celebrate what it means to be
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an important leader on d-day when america liberated europe years ago. can you imagine what general eisenhower who said the eyes of the world on our brave soldiers invading europe, liberating europe would have thought by this nonsense, by a president who apparently doesn't take the presidency seriously enough to stay off of social media and speak in such erratic, inaccurate and scatter shot ways about our staunchest allies, about democratic process, about the power of our democracy and our judiciary. he can't control himself. it's bad for the presidency. it doesn't matter what sebastian or other white house officials say. they are just doing a job it's just spin, a game, not real concern for the presidency. >> now this latest string of tweets about the travel ban is more than just trump talk.
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sometimes he tweets with silly things. like with my politician you mary beth it based on the context. now, jeffrey, he has a strong legal case, constitutionally in terms of practice executive gets a lot of broad discretion when it comes to immigration. he should have measure of confidence going into the supreme court. maybe george conway, kellyanne conway's husband is right, that these tweets go so directly to the intentionality, not only does he say it's a ban, but he says he wants the original ban, that to common sense and courts have very clear intention of blocking muslims, giving carve outs for other religions. could he have compromised the case? >> i certainly believe these are president trump's words and we should take them seriously as we take any statement seriously. i don't think that this statement was so devastating to the case in the supreme court. the real issue in the supreme
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court is whether the administration engaged in religious discrimination against musli muslims. if he said this is a muslim ban, that would be a bigger problem. a travel ban is a much more generic term. even though the white house objected to that term, it's not necessarily unconstitutional. the fact he says it's a travel ban i don't think hurts his case that much. >> maggie, let's talk about another story you have broken for "the new york times," that is no one is immune from the fickle finger of president trump, including jeff sessions, who was one of his earliest, most visible supporters and acolytes. somehow the attorney general has fallen out of favor of the president. >> it's been a long falling out of favor. essentially this all dates back his frustration with jeff sessions. yes, the travel ban is his own thing, whatever we're calling it right now, travel ban is his own
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thing. he's been frustrated with jeff sessions since jeff sessions recused himself from anything related to russia investigation. that enraged the president. we all reported that, he was upset and yelled at people. two days later he did wiretap tweets, one that caused all manner of problems. if you look at his last two months of headaches, the president's, a lot dates back to his frustration with jeff sessions over that. in his mind he believes without that, a lot of this cascade of events, according to a lot of people who talked to him, would not have happened. so when you see him doing this sort of swipe at the justice department, part of it is related to this one issue on the travel ban. part of it is his overarching frustration with attorney kbenl. >> very interesting. thank you very much panelist for sharing thoughts.
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coming up on "new day," we will discuss all of this with several members of congress. we have democrats jim himes and nancy pelosi with us. republican chris collins and independent senator angus king. >> we also have new details about the three terrorists who pulled off the london attack. one of them was on the radar of british intelligence officials, therefore feeding the question of could it have been prevented. how did they know about him, what did they know about him and what decision did they make with regard to an earlier investigation. all that ahead.
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identified the men who terrorized the city. turns out one of them was on the radar of british intelligence. cnn senior international correspondent clarissa ward live at london's borough market with the latest. clarissa you've reported before they have tremendous volume of people who are under scrutiny in the british intelligence there. this man was one of them. they have made determinations about him in the past. what do we know? >> reporter: that's right, chris. i mean, according to british security sources they are currently observing or investigating roughly 23,000 people, so they do have their hands full. but one of the three attackers was quite well-known to authorities. he was part of a group, a very well-known local extremist group. i have interviewed several of them over the years and even the foreign minister boris johnson conceded this morning british intelligence services are now coming up against some really tough questions as to how he was
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able to plot this attack under the radar. take a look. >> because -- we have to stay. >> khuram shazad butt seen her during a 2015 police search was known to parish intelligence but authorities had no indication of an imminent attack. >> they don't believe us. >> reporter: the british national, born in pakistan, was a brainwashed follower of the local extremist group who appeared in this 2016 british documentary "the jihadis next door." >> associated with armies the past 12 years. >> reporter: police identifying 30-year-old rachid redouane, who claimed to be moroccan and libyan as one of the three men responsible for saturday's deadly terror attack. he was not previously known to
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authorities. the third attacker has been identified, but authorities have not released his name. according to police, butt is believed to have lived in this apartment complex in east london, one of three areas where police have carried out raids and arrests. the neighbor, who described butt as a friend, told cnn tuesday the attacker had recently started talking to neighborhood kids about islam. >> his views changed. he became a bit more erratic about what to believe. >> reporter: just hours before the carnage, he saw him speeding down the street in a white van like the one used in the attack. >> speeding, unusual. >> reporter: the neighbor telling the reporters butt took an interest in his rental van. >> where can i get a van, details, how much is it.
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>> the real mystery is who is the third attacker. police identified him but they are not telling the public who he is and how did these three individuals know each other. still a lot of questions alisyn. >> clarclarissa, thank you veryh for that reporting. are president trump's tweets undermining the credibility of the white house. we'll talk to jim himes who just called the president's behavior unhinged. ming out! man #1: [ sighs ] flo: [ amplified ] i got this. guys, i know being a first-time homeowner is scary, but you don't have to do this. man #2: what if a tree falls on our garage? woman: what if a tornado rips off our roof? flo: you're covered. and you've bundled your home and auto insurance, so you're saving a ton. come on. you don't want to start your new life in a dirty old truck. man #3: hey. man #1: whoa, whoa. flo: sorry. woman: oh. flo: you're safe. you're safe now. woman: i think i'm gonna pass out. can you stop using the bullhorn? flo: i don't make the rules. can you stop using the bullhorn? the beswith neutrogena® beach? beach defense® sunscreen.
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president trump's tweets attacking london's mayor over the terror attack sparking new criticism. one democratic lawmaker calling him dangerous, completely delusional, demented. congressman, these words, appalling, completely delusional, unhinged, demented, dangerous. these have an i'm fed up, at my breaking point quality. >> this is just today's installment of donald trump reality show. why do i use language like that.
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you need to be about 9 years old in your social development to understand when your neighbor, friend, brother, sister, which is what the british are to us have suffered a great tragedy. the only decent response is to say i'm terribly sorry and how can i help. number two, the president's tweets were based on a total misunderstanding of what the mayor of london are saying. he was saying you're going to see a lot of police around. number three, this is the reason i use the word dangerous. i sit on the intelligence committee so i spend a lot of time thinking about those who would do us harm. these are very smart people who watch us closely. they just saw the president of the united states respond to an attack in britain less appropriately than as i said a 7 or 8-year-old would respond. now they are thinking to themselves, what if we did this in the united states, could we count on the president to act in such a way that the american public -- would he act responsibly or not. the answer is of course he would not react responsibly. >> you've gone further than
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other lawmakers. others have used maybe one of these adjectives but you put them all together in this sort of tweet storm. is that -- was there some sort of tipping point for you? >> well, you know, i criticized the president before when he has lied on twitter in speeches for his policy. we're forgetting that the senate this week is taking up a house health care bill that would deny 24 million americans health care insurance. this is just a moment by mom, day by day thing. what concerns me most is you have this long conversation with whether the president's tweets are official statements or the same as policy. you know what they are? they are a window spot man's mind. this country has challenges. the mind that we see in this person who occupies the oval office is not the mind of somebody that we want in charge if this country is hit with a terrorist attack. >> why? if you look into that window, what do you think the response would be if, god forbid, we had
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a london situation? >> you know, i give george w. bush credit for the way he responded on 9/11. obviously i'm not politically on the same page with george w. bush but he responded with dignity. he urged the country to be calm. one of his very first statements was to say this is not about all muslims. we have lots of very loyal muslim american citizens, brothers and sisters. george w. bush responded with prudence, dignity, facts. what donald trump did in response to the british tragedy was, again, i think inappropriate for a toddler, much less the president of the united states. >> i want to read your first two tweets so people get an idea what you sent out. you said here criticizing the mayor of a city recently attacked by terror appalling. donald trump is not qualified to be mayor of a small town. these are very strong very vehement words.
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>> i probably owe mayors of small towns an apology for that. i understand donald trump maintained the loyalty of a core group of supporters. if you sort of step back and look at any of his daily actions and the way he behaved in europe, in a way that caused germany and angela merkel, another absolutely critical ally we have against terrorism and russia to say, hey, folks, it appears we're now on our own. again, i could list this stuff but we adopt have time. the president of the united states is damaging the national security of the united states and making us a laughingstock around the world at a moment in time when american leadership is particularly critical. >> in the next tweet you do call out this small team of advisers. let me read this. completely delusional. i don't know how people like mcmaster, mattis, cohn and powell may serve. if i may use trumpian quotes, this man. you're accepteding a message to him.
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why did you single out these people. >> i'm not so much sending a message than acknowledging the president, and i took comfort in this, appointed good people. general mcmaster, mattis, a few others on his economic team are very solid people. very different in temperament, tone, knowledge and experience than the president of the united states. >> what do you want them to do? >> i don't want them to do anything other than reflect on what's doing to happen to their reputations because of this association with the president who is out of control. again, for me it's more than just a mystery. i know some of these people. i think they are good, solid. i may not agree with them but they are good, solid people. i don't know how they get up every morning and say i have one of the most responsible jobs i will ever hold and the president just tweeted something i would ground my 16-year-old for saying. i don't know how you do your job under those circumstances. >> have you heard from the white house? >> i have not heard from the white house and don't necessarily expect to.
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chad myers has our forecast. this is not the summer weather i ordered. >> not yet, not for the weekend either. a couple of warm days. this is brought to you by purina, your pet, our passion. raining across northeast, adirondacks, catskills, boston, maine and most of massachusetts and spoke vermont. the rain continues for all day long across upstate new york. only scattered showers for new york city. you don't warm up today, only in the 50s. heavy rainfall across catskills,
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adirondacks, north of new york city. the heaviest rain, chris, right where we need it, right in the pickle barrel, where the wildfires are, florida. >> i'll take it. even if it's doing to mean you have an uneven weekend with something like that, you've got real problems down south there. god bless them hopefully they get the help they need. chad, appreciate it. big story. nashville predators roar back into contention for stanley cup. big impressive win over defending champ pittsburgh penguins. cory wire more in the bleacher report. hard to tell the teams apart. >> that is true. good morning to you. doesn't get better than hockey and honky tonk for nashville predators. hockey hottest ticket going in music city. tens of thousands packing city blocks down broadway to watch game four on television. who is doing to sing the national anthem? which country star would it be?
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now to a cnn exclusive families trying to escape last territory, holding hostage including thousands of children and murdering those who try to flee. cnn senior international corporate live in iraq with their heart wrenching stories. tell us more, arwa. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. it's really hard to find the words that truly encompass what it is people have been through, especially the children. when you look at their faces one gets an understanding of the depth of the trauma. we do have to warn our viewers, some of the images they are about to see they may find disturbing. >> they stumble towards the iraqi troops. they are breathless, their voices are shaking from fear and shock.
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they use single sentences that seem to hardly encompass the scope of what it is they have actually just been through brap. >> as isis is squeezed into even smaller territory, the civilians they are holding hostage are running out of food. it was only enough to feed the children to try and keep them
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from crying out. she and her husband, they weren't hungry. on the frontline helping the iraqi army is dave eubanks. he's american ex-special forces. with his team of free burma rangers, volunteer medics. just days earlier, isis massacred dozens of people who were just trying to make a run for it. dave was called to the scene. >> we saw these 13 poeds and we saw movement. look at that wall. >> a man alive and a little girl who creeps out from underneath her dead mother's hijab where she had been hiding for days hugging her mother's corpse.
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they use the tank for cover to move out, dragging those they just saved past the corpses of those who perished. the little girl, she has not yet spoken, not a single word. no one knows her name. the next morning they spotted even more movement. >> ran, got across the road, went through rubble like this. isis on three sides of us. they can hear us talking. finally get off the street isis is shooting. three days no sleep, no water, wounded. >> much of western mosul is already apocalyptic. the fate for last square kilometers, it's going to be so much worse than anything we've seen before. there's no past blueprint for this kind of warfare.
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no one has fought an enemy like isis holding civilians hostage in a dense suburban battlefield. we go to a clinic that's further back from the frontline. there's an old man who can't speak from the shock and a little girl. her name is maria. she's ten. there with her older sister. they say a mortar hit their house just as they were trying to make a run tore it. one sister they know is dead. they saw her lifeless body. the others are buried under the rubble of their home but isis still controls the area. the reality of what she's just said perhaps not quite sinking in or maybe she's just looking
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for any distraction from a loss that she cannot yet fully comprehend. >> and chris and alisyn, the united states estimates around 100,000 children are still living in very dangerous conditions, whether still an isis held territory or around other parts of western mosul. isis is still targeting iraqi security forces with suicide car bombs and in some instances even deliberately using droebs to drop explosives on the civilian population. we're really only just beginning to understand what it is this battle is costing these children and their parents, these families that have already been through too much. >> oh, my god, arwa. that was so striking, all of your video and the interviews. we just wouldn't know this stuff without your reporting and you going there to the front lines. it was hard obviously to watch. i didn't want to

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