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of resources and coordination trying to make it through there. we heard different accounts from the firefighters. phil, i'm sure you have has well about the hell in the building. this is far from over. stay safe. thank you for the reporting. to the other top story. attorney general jeff sessions denying that he or anybody in the trump campaign colluded with russia. the embattled ag calls it a detestable lie. democrats are accusing sessions of stonewalling and refusing to answer questions he could have. we have athena jones from the white house with more. >> reporter: good morning, chris. for all reporting about a deteriorating relationship between president trump and attorney general sessions, sessions loyalty to the president was on vivid display during the hearing yesterday. sources tell cnn the president watched the hearing during the
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flight from washington to his event in milwaukee. a white house spokeswoman says the president thinks sessions did quote a very good job. at times emotional. >> the suggestion that i participated in any collusion is appalling lie. >> reporter: at times combative. >> why don't you tell me they are non, senator. this is a secret innuendo leaked out there by me. i don't appreciate it. >> reporter: attorney general jeff sessions came out swinging at the hearing tuesday forcefully denying any collusion with russia to interfere in the election. >> i have never met with or had any conversation with any russians or any foreign officials concerning any type of interference with any campaign or election in the united states. >> reporter: but for all the fireworks, sessions refused to
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answer several key questions. despite the fact that president trump did not invoke executive privilege. sessions would not say what he spoke with the president about before recommending the firing of fbi director james comey. >> i'm not able to discuss with you the nature of the private conversations i had with the president. >> reporter: or if the russia probe was a factor in the decision. >> i'll let his words speak for himself. >> reporter: sessions silent if the president was upset over refusal. something he was compelled to make because he was adviser to the trump campaign. >> i recused myself from the investigation into the campaign for president, but i did not recuse myself from defending my honor against false allegations. >> reporter: the attorney general blames the comey
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handling of the e-mail investigation for his firing. a far cry from a year ago. democratic senators lashing out for refusal to answer questions. >> i believe the american people have had it with stonewalling. >> you are not answering questions. you are impeding the investigation. >> what is the basis for refusal? >> i am protecting the right of the president to assert if he chooses. >> reporter: republicans coming to sessions defense. >> have you ever in the fantastical situations heard of a plot line so ridiculous that a si sitting united states senator and ambassador of a foreign government colluded. >> reporter: sessions confirmed the comey account of the oval office meeting in february where the president cleared the room so he could talk to comey alone. sessions downplayed its significance. >> my sense was the attorney general knew he shouldn't be
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leaving. >> i left. it didn't seem to me to be a major problem. >> reporter: it didn't seem to be a major problem, sessions said. one more point to add in all this. the white house said yesterday that president trump has no intention of firing special counsel robert mueller. deputy secretary sara sanders refused to say if the president has confidence in mueller. sanders confirmed the president interviewed mueller for the fbi position one day before he was named special counsel. >> thank you. let's bring in the panel. we have david gregory and reporter chris cillizza and editor of real clear politics a.b. stoddard. david gregory, how did the sessions testimony go? what did you learn? >> i don't think we learned a lot about what they are really
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investigating, which is what did the russians do? how did they interfere in the election? who might have been involved. sen a lot of questions about the contacts with the russian ambassad ambassador. it raised real questions. i think the level of from ustran is how the attorney general handled the questions with what is happening about the investigation. not the under lying offense, but how the president con ducted himself. you get him at odds with the fbi director jim comey. somewhat. basically he is not telling us what he discussed with the president. he is only adding to the suspicion that somehow they came around to thinking jim comey was doing a bad job once the russia investigation got heated up and they became outraged with the
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handling of the hillary clinton situation which they could have dealt with far earlier. i think democrats and republicans come away for frustrated. i think this is a strong defender of the president who leaves the hearing with a more support among republicans who came to his defense. >> so a.b., one of the contradictions is that sessions says, the way comey was with the investigation was a problem. he seemed to suggest he had never been briefed on the russia investigation which is really weird to hear from the ag. how is that playing and his questionable basis for refusal to answer questions? >> right. that was remarkable. all along, people have been asking in the different witnesses in hearings whether or not president trump is concerned privately with the russian interference since he doesn't
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make remarks publicly if he expresses urgency to get to the bottom of this. >> except to say it is a hoax. >> right. and it could be the chinese. for jeff sessions to say i have not been briefed on it and concede it is not really a great urgency to him eage either is se part of this. in his answers about comey in which he did not refute the actual account that comey gave about the private meeting and discomfort over it. his communication to sessions about the discomfort. attorney general sessions did not seem to think it was a big deal. as attorney general, he is to think the boundaries are significant. that in and of itself was strange. i think there is not a lot of consensus if he was alollowed t use the esoteric right to use executive privilege at another
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time down the road. >> logically, if that is the way it worked, then the president would never have to assert a privilege. because nobody would ever talk. >> preemptive protection. >> i think it became clear to republicans and democrats on that committee that jeff sessions is very loyal to the president. he is on the outs with him. that did not come up. he is stranining to make sure h doesn't say anything quote/unquo quote/unquote revalatory. the white house think it is is a good day if nothing new is revealed. these are open sessions. we don't know where robert mueller is going with the investigation. the comey firing is at the center of it. it doesn't mean that because sessions did not do anything to make donald trump upset yesterday that the issues remain in real legal trouble. it doesn't mean he does. i think everyone there, including the republicans, you
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know, asking him on the committee, there were not a lot of answers to the central question of how the obstruction of justice was playing out in the private meeting and the other conversations they want to hear answers to which is admiral rogers and dni dan coats. too many questions without answers. >> chris cillizza, sessions invoked executive privilege and also could not recall many things. let us play the times he said that to the senators. >> it's conceivable that occurred. i just don't remember it. i still do not recall it. not to my recollection. i don't have recognition or knowing he would be there. so i don't recall that. >> i don't recall any such. >> i don't recall. >> i do not recall any of those individuals. >> okay. chris cillizza? >> i started counting the number
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of i do not recalls. it quickly went beyond my limited math skills because he said it a lot. quickly i'm not recalling. the reason he is doing this is not complecomplex. it gives him an out of discovery that contradicts. he can say i didn't say i didn't. i said i didn't recall. my take, sessions wanted this hearing which we were surprised honestly. remember, 96 hours ago, it was surprising he agreed. he wanted it because he felt insulted permanentsonally. the parts of the hearing with which he got emotional or mad were all about him feeling as though people were suggesting he had colluded or done something with the russians that he did not do. the thing that just doesn't make sense if you do as a.b. noted,
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if you put the comey firing in the center of this, the logic of how he gets to firing or recommending comey be fired doesn't make sense. in july and then in october he praises comey. he never meets with comey to say he is not doing a good job. he never has conversations except with rod rosenstein. then all of a sudden, he is signing off on a letter relating to the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. that's after donald trump told them in a meeting he is going to fire james comey. all of that doesn't really add up. the reason james comey was fired is because donald trump said it. the russia thing. you know, that was the part where it was clear he and sessions are bending over backward and bending over again to make sure he is selling the
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company line and not making donald trump angry. it doesn't mean it makes sense. >> do you remember, david, back in 2014 or too long ago when sessions was questioning holder at a hearing and holder was talking about not wanting to reveal a conversation with obama and sessions was pushing it. >> the fast and furious. >> you can talk about it and there is no privilege. my, how it changed quickly. do you think he did the president any favors in denying any kind of curiosity about the investigation or the events with comey or the conversations with comey or odd description of the lin lingering? did you think he helped? >> i think it is more the latter. i think it was bland in that respect. i think it invites more scrutiny. the notion he wants us to believe a couple of things at once. one that comey was not a good
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leader. that it was time for a fresh start. yet, he was such a professional that he put himself against pressure by the president and he would have confidence in that. that seems so thin. i think what comes across clearly is what chris is saying. this was a good soldier who was going in and defending the president while saying i haven't been close enough to any of this to render judgment. i think that's what comes out of it. he comes early enough in the process that they will have more questions about his role and his role in the firing. >> people can go online and read chris cillizza's winners and losers. as a tease, a winner is the k n cranberries because of what lingers. >> there was a lot of talk about why he lingered.
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why was he left in the room? i know i'm dorky, but it was fascinating to hear from the comey angle and the sessions angle. >> and cranberries angle. >> there is always the cranberries angle. >> you have to remember, when sessions raised his right hand, he pledged an oath to defend the constitution, not just the president of the united states. we have a big show. we will talk to a lot of the key players in this investigation. take a look at your screen. we have senators king and harris. we have senators blumenthal and franken. yes, a lot of democrats because it is not easy to get the republicans on to talk about this stuff. we do have former u.s. attorney general alberto gonzalez and congress member schiff and chris few a stewart. >> now the president is calling the health care bill mean.
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senators to spend more money on their plan to make it quote generous and kind. not exactly what conservatives what to hear. we have dementhave suzanne malvn kp capitol hill with more. >> reporter: you may remember the republicans to the white house signing health care legislation. some of those members this morning feeling like they are under the bus. this happened just yesterday at the president and vice president hosting senate republicans when the president made it clear he singled them out for appreciation. the group of a dozen conservatives and moderates saying they had something that was kind and generous and needed more money. when the cameras were not in front of them, sources tell us he went further calling the house bill version mean and the son of a b the expletive.
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saying there was not enough money to take care of people in the marketplace and protect those people? house republicans clearly disappointed in the language. understanding this is part of the negotiation process, but also feeling burned. >> it's one of the things where i look at the president and say we're on the same side. help us out. throw us a bone. we are not trying to be mean. we're trying to help people. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell setting a deadline to push this forward on the senate side. that being before the july 4th recess. you can imagine the question now is whether or not the president helped our hurt his cause trying to move forward key legislation. >> suzanne, thank you. the president seems to be keenly picking up on the disconnect. how do you help so many of those you need to help when they lose access to care? chris stewart will be on the
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show this morning defending his position. let's bring back david gregory and chris cillizza and a.b. stoddard. david gregory, we have an indication why the president may be saying what he is saying. his disapproval has hit a new high in the gallop tracking poll. 60% disapproval. this puts him in the history books for now. do you think this is a reflection of him wanting to deal with disapproval and dealing with an obvious cause for it. >> and get a tangible accomplishment on capitol hill. i think that is what is so important. the president, white house officials said no. health care is not dead. it is not dormant. the president is working the issue. we will get something done that will repeal obamacare and replace it. when we have known that is always going to be the difficult combination. it does focus on how much money
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you are prepared to pay. you know, at the end of the process insurance companies have to be taken care of in order for enough people to have quality and affordable health care insurance. so that comes through subsidy or grants that are large enough to the states to allow them to fund some exchange and some ability to afford insurance. that's where the rub is. between a potential senate deal and what you have in the house. i just don't see at this point where the momentum is in the senate among conservative republican whos who don't want pay as many under obamacare. that will be difficult when you go back pre-existing conditions and subsidy in the house legislation. >> a.b., it is not just a political maneuver on the part of president trump. if we believe what he has said for years, he has been much more open to universal health care or
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something akin to that. that's what he always said. everyone needs to be covered. do we have any sense of whether or not the senate plan is kinder and gentler? >> let's start with this. the senators who are working on this have been trying to do this without the white house because they know where this sweet spot is with the moderates and conservatives and chamber and they know how to get to the vote. if you remove the mandate and taxes, mr. president trump, you will have everyone covered and getting coverage they can afford. that is the crux of the argument. for him to come in this late hour and try to tell the senate they need to make it -- boost subsidy or provide more of a safety net is not something that's likely going to help them get to 50 votes with pence breaking the tie by the july 4th
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weekend. that is what they were working toward. there was momentum. they figured out a medicaid soft landing and trying to get to a place to keep some people on board who needed some protection from medicaid patients and their states. president trump is not -- i can't tell you the significance of what he does by embracing the house bill and cutting off the legs of the moderates who voted for the bill by refusing to back them up weeks later. this is a trust issue with congressional republicans and the white house. they don't feel he will be there later. they are worried for the 2018 cycle. he will blame them for anything that hasn't gotten done. yes, they do think some time in his life he was for single payer. there is a lot of mistrust and a lot of problems getting to some bill working with him having a change of heart. i'll quickly add in a quinnipiac poll in march, he had a 60%
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disapproval with college. they are concerned that the health care debate has eroded support among strongest supporters. that concern is real. i don't know if it gets you a bill at this late hour. >> it doesn't get the voter base if you take away the ability to get health care. that is a group effected the most. especially when you get into people above 50 years of age. a big group for the president voting for him. they will be exposed. chris cillizza, the virginia governor's race. the primary and gillespie beating back the former chairman. is this the window of what happened with gillespie and stewart? >> that is a stunning result. ed gillespie won. if you told me he would beat corey stewart because president
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trump fired because he was too out there. as a small amount as he did, it is stunning. it tells you and you have to be careful one event is one event. it suggests that trump is not a black swan. that trump being elected in the republican primary is not something that is a one-off. that corey stewart ran as the trump candidate. drain the swamp. against the confederate statues around the state. unapologetic like president trump. for him to almost beat ed gillespie more has been running for the office the last four years is stunning. it suggests the republican base is not unenergized. it is the trump base is energized. the establishment wing of the base is not. if you are a republican facing a
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primary, establishment republican facing a primary, today is a worrisome day for yu. >> i would add that the notion that trump is some kind of rogue wave is dissipatindissipating. somehow we will go back to a republican, even mainstream republican establishment that looks the way it did, i think that's not going to happen. i think you have conservatives in the trump wing which is still largely together even though there is strain in washington. >> thank you, panel. there is a massive nationwide manhunt for two fugitives. both considered dangerous beyond belief. that is the quote. after they killed two guards on a prison bus and escaped. we have a live report on the search. police need your help next.
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a nationwide manhunt at this hour for two accused killing two police officers. they are dangerous beyond belief. cnn's kayli hartung has more. >> reporter: alisyn, it was the two inmates overpowered their correction officers driving a prison transport. murdered them and caught a vehicle down the road. this manhunt continues 24 hours with the two men on the run. there have been many reported sightings of the two men over the past 24 hours. what we do know is they were responsible for a burglary. 30 miles from where we stand now in etonton, georgia. they were said to ran sack the home and taken food and clothes as they left prison whites behind.
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that car that they overpowered and took a 2004 green honda civic. we have not heard of reported sightings of that vehicle. it is expected to be the mode of transport. now while there are many questions of how this happened and the priority for the putnam county sheriff and state apparent federal officials is finding the two men. when they look back, alisyn, to figure out how this happened in the first place, there is video from that prison transport vehicle that can answer a lot of those questions. chris, the reward now is $70,000 for anyone who can provide any nofr information to lead to their arrest. >> that is the question. urgency on finding the two men. we are putting the word out so local folks can help the authorities there. kaylee, thank you. if you learn anything more, tell us. we'll come back to you. some another troubling question that has geo-political
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all right. this is an important story to
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follow. the american student currently in a coma after released by the north korean government. he is back home in ohio. he is not in good shape. video captured the moment otto warmbier was carried off the plane last night. he spent 17 months in detention in north korea. he has been in a coma, we are told, for more than a year. cnn's paula hancocks live in seoul with more. the obvious question is how? >> reporter: exactly, chris. that is what everyone is asking. the information is from north korean side. they are telling u.s. officials that otto warmbier contracted botulism after the trial in 20116 they claimed he took asleeping pill and never woke up. the state department here is clearly saying that they are going to not take it at face value you.
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they don't know about the timing and cause until the doctors look at him. go back to march of 2016 and remind ourselves of the trial. hour-long trial televised. clearly otto warmbier was under duress. he was found guilty against the acts of the regime. he took a political poster off the wall. he was charged with 15 years of hard lab or. he is now headed back to the states and his family who last week found out he had been in a coma for all that time. clearly a devastating time for them. >> paula, thank you very much for all that. we want to discuss with our cnn military analyst john kirby and medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, you heard what paula said. he contracted botulism and took a sleeping pill and slipped into a coma. >> it doesn't make sense.
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botulism is a bacterial infection that you connect with botox. it causes paralysis of the muscles. that is what happens if you get the bacterial infection. people get muscle weakness in the face. it can get pretty bad and affect the muscles of diaphragm so you no longer breathe on your own. someone could have a stroke. >> could you slip into a coma? >> lack of blood flow to the brain, that could cause a coma-like condition. a brain stroke which would look like a comb a. sleeping pill would not cause a comb coma. it doesn't make sense. nevertheless, with botulism, if you are on a breathing machine. we are talking over a year. it would not last that long.iag
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timing and treatment, it is hard to piece it all together. >> it was hard to see that video of him coming off the plane on the stretcher. it is hard to know exactly what condition he is currently in. they say he is in a coma. can someone come out of it? >> if it has been over a year -- first of all, several things come to mind. you saw a tube in his nose, but didn't seem to have a breathing tube. it seems he has been fed, but wasn't requiring a breathing machine. that is all i can make out watching that video. the concern is if this has been over a year. that excludes the more, if you will, reversiblreversible. it has been over a year. it is concerning. i think what he will get here is a more clear cut diagnosis for sure. about that leads to some treatment that obviously
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everybody wants, you know, it is not encouraging given the timing. >> john kirby, gosh. this is a heartbreaking story and tragic story. seeing him in that, you know, courtroom for lack of a better word after the one-hour trial pleading to the heavens f for mercy. and him being sentenced for 15 years for taking down a propaganda poster. this would be a fraternity prank in our country. how is it he was released? >> kooaccording to the state department, once the condition was relevant was known, we demanded his release. i give credit to secretary tillerson foraggressively. what led the north koreans to be accommodatin accommodating? i don't know. it would not be good for them for an american to die i
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in incarceration in pyongjong. they are not known for treatment. there was a lot of effort that paid off. >> his parents say they did not know he was in a coma until last week. the regime had not shared that information with the americans. what does it mean for the three other americans who are being detained in north korea? >> we have our minds on them. when i was at the state department, we never lost focus on them as well. this is an incredibly opaque regime. we don't know how they operator manage their processes. we cannot get inside the mind of kim jong un. we have to assume, sadly, we have to assume the worst for the way political prisoners are treated. we will know more as they take a
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harder look into otto warmbier's case. we have to assume that the other political prisoners are treated badly. >> john kirby, dr. sanjay gupta, thank you. all right. so the nba champion golden state warriors. they want to celebrate. the question is where? will they go to the white house? details in the bleacher report next. you could fill a book with all the things you'll never learn from a book. expedia. everything in one place, so you can travel the world better.
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all right. the bleacher report with the provocative question. will the nba champs golden state warriors are going to celebrate at the white house? andy scholes has more in the bleacher report. what do we know? >> good morning, chris. many don't expect the warriors to go to the white house. steph curry and steve kerr have been critical of president trump. klay thompson told cnn in february he would go to the white house. quote, i don't have to agree with everything the president says. at the end of the day, he is still our president and the leader of the free world.
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the team said we have not received an invitation to the white house. we will make the decision when and if necessary. the penguins saying they would love to visit the white house. in a statement, the stanley cup champions said the penguins would never turn down a visit to the white house and if invited, we would go as a team. we respect the office of the presidency of the united states and what it stands for. any opposition with the president's policies or agenda can be expressed in other ways. penguins are said to have a championship parade later on today. >> thank you, andy. nearly 200 democrats in congress announced they are suing president trump over his business deals with foreign governments. senator richard blumenthal leads that charge. he joins us next. ♪
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adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there. i can even warm these to help you fall asleep faster. does your bed do that? oh. i don't actually talk. though i'm smart enough to. i'm the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let's meet at a sleep number store. democrats accusing attorney general jeff sessions of stonewalling during his testimony during a senate panel yesterday. senator richard blumenthal took it a step further. tweeting quote ag sessions should be subpoenaed to judiciary committee to answer questions. he's dodging today. publicly and under oath. we have senator blumenthal with us now. make the case.
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why is it wrong for the ag to say i do not think it is in the national interest or in the protection of confidentiality for me to reveal these conversations with the president? >> there is no executive privilege. there is no legal protection. he is a public official and the intelligence committee is conducting a lawful supremely important bipartisan investigation into russia's meddling in the election and possible collusion of the trump campaign or others in the russian interference. even possibly obstruction of justice with mounting evidence. he has no legal basis to simply dodge the questions. that's why i have urged he be subpoenaed under oath and publicly to testify before the judiciary committee.
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he puerto riarticipated in the f jim comey. he should answer to the judiciary committee and why it was compromised in that way. >> why do you think he would give different answers because it is a different committee? >> he would be subpoenaed and under oath in the committee where he has a direct responsibility to provide those answers. if he fails to do so, i think the judiciary committee would be within its rights to take action. i hope he would provide different answers because it is the right thing to do and the president could give him permission to do so in the meantime. >> we know about a new lawsuit against trump. nearly 200 democrats accusing donald trump over the emoluments clause. we all have to learn about the
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emoluments clause. the arcane history of the constitution. what is the basis of your lawsuit? why do you think you have an actionable claim here? >> we are going to court. 190 of us members of congress. largest members ever to sue the president because he is flagrantly thumbing his nose at the constitution and at the american people. this clause in the constitution may seem archaic, but it was profoundly important to the founders. it is the premier and t anticorn of the constitution. it needs the consent of congress. >> but the scant case law on it and the history of understanding, could the case be made this was about greft?
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congress needs to authorize something before you receive a gift from a foreign government. contracts or bargains or exchanges of goods. is that outside the scope of emolument? >> the president has a far-flung empire of 500 companies doing business in 20 different countries and we really have no knowledge because he has failed to disclose about all of those business operations. we cannot consent to what we don't know. he has a duty at the very least to disclose what those deals and payments and benefits are so the american people know he is putting our interests first and not his business interests. >> is that what this is? senator? a clever way to get disclosure from the president? you are hoping this survives
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summary judgment as you say on the civil side and get to discovery and the president has to turnover information about business practices that he has to this point refused to provide? >> at the very least. he has to disclose what the business payments are. we know some of those payments. saudi arabia paying thousands of dollars in rent. the trademarks from china worth millions of dollars. permits in india for development there. possibly, we don't know for sure, but money pouring in from russia. that's what his sons have referred to happening. the american people deserve to know whether when he praises turkey or the philippines leaders, he is doing it because it is in our interest or because he has business deals there. we know about the deals and other deals around the world where potentially he could be sending arms to saudi arabia or
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other kinds of diplomatic relationships that otherwise he would not engage in and otherwise and maybe not be in our interest. these are profoundly important to the constitution and enforcing the constitution is our role and responsibility because we have the unique position. he cannot get these payments without consent of congress. >> it is interesting. the political propcess to this point has failed the president to give out anymore information than he has already. it is interesting if the legal route gives more satisfaction. if you are found to have standing on the criteria. we will track it. senator blumenthal, thank you for making the case here on "new day." >> thank you. we are following news for you this morning. including a massive inferno that has been burning for hours in a london high-rise. "new day" has the latest right
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now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to "new day." we begin with trouble breaking news. six people are dead and dozens hurt and a lot still unknown. this was the scene at 1:00 a.m. in the morning and shortly after in london. a massive inferno. a 24-story building. the flames shooting out. the large scale response by first responders there. we still don't know the details of what is going on inside that building. simply too much smoke and too much damage. >> you can imagine what firefighters were up against when they got there and saw this scene. we don't know how many people are missing and witnesses describe a horrifying scene. people jumping from the building and children screaming for help. cnn's phil black is live at the

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