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some of the questions becausewas because he thought robert mueller. >> investigating president trump for possible obstruction of justice. more on that coming up. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." our breaking news coverage begins right now with "out front" with erin burnett. >> "out front" next. breaking news. new details on the gunman who opened fire with a semi automatic. what we're learning about him tonight. more breaking news at this hour. the washington post with a stunning report. saying president trump is now under investigation, why special counsel robert mueller for possible obstruction of justice. this is a major turning point in the russia investigation. we have all those breaking headlines. let's go "out front." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "out front" this evening, the
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breaking news, steve scalise is in critical condition tonight after fire was opened on softball practice. the first shots ringing out at about 7:00 this morning. the heavily armed shooter crouching behind the third base dugout. several officers on the scene fired back. the gunman later died from his injuries. cell phone video recorded the chaotic scene. [ gunfire ] >> hey. is that guy ok out there? the guy -- has that guy been shot? is he ok. anybody talking to him? [ gunfire ]
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>> stay down! stay down! [ bleep ] [ gunfire ] [ bleep ]. >> shoot him! [ bleep ]. >> that's what happened in that suburban park outside washington this morning. the gunman has been identified as james hodge kinson. the fbi also revealing that the
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gunman had been in the washington area since march actually living out of a cargo van. four people were shot including congressman ka lease who was shot in the hip. there's one more in critical condition tonight. zach bart was shot in the leg. he's been treated and released. crystal griner was shot in the ankle and david bayley was injured but recovering. it is their hair oh wichl that saved lives today. what can you tell us about the congressman's condition? >> steve scalise is fighting for his life here at washington hospital center as is matt mika at another hospital and here at the hospital center capitol hill special agents crystal griner is in good condition after having been shot in the ankle. witnesses say if it hadn't been
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for the fact that scalise had the security officers as his personal detail, there might have been a massacre on that field. he seemingly came out of nowhere. members of congress and their staffs. >> i thought it was a car backfire at first until i see the rifle barrel. and a white male taking careful aim at congressmen, staffers, whoever he could get hold of. >> reporter: witnesses say gunman identified by police as 66-year-old james hodge kinson appeared to be laying in wait behind the dugout on this baseball people. republican representatives practicing for tomorrow's bipartisan baseball game. >> all of a sudden there were multiple gunshots being fired. >> reporter: senator rodney
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davis was about. >> swb yelled run! >> reporter: the third ranking house republican was the first republican. he was in the infield. >> redragged himself after he was shot from near second base about 10 or 15 yards into the field just to be i think a little further away from the gunman. he was laying motionless out there. i wanted to get to him but there were still shots going over head from both sides. finally, when we heard that the shooter was down, i just ran low out to steve and started putting pressure on the wound. >> reporter: a republican staffer identified as zach barth was also hit. >> there was a hole in his leg. >> reporter: capital police officers assigned to scalise because of his position. >> they were putting their lives directly in the line of fire.
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>> two of his detail were shot. one african-american gentleman shot in the leg and i believe he's the one that are brought the shooter down. he ran around for quite a while with a leg wound returning fire. >> reporter: tonight witnesses are crediting the bravery of the officers with saving countless lives. >> it was the capital police that saved us all. if it wasn't for the capital police i assume everybody would have been killed this morning. >> reporter: a total of four people were shot. >> i watched mike run and my fellow member steve scalise lay motionless on the field, wondering if he was going to be ok. that is a picture i will never forget. [ grufr ] >> the hail of gunfire evident as far away as the ymca building. tonight as investigators try to
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find a motive, two are pointing to a conversation they had with the shooter earlier this morning in a parking lot. >> he asked me if this team was the republican or democrat team practicing. i respond it was the republican team practicing and he proceeded to shoot republicans. take that for what it's worth. >> and once again, an update on congressman steve scalise. he's in critical condition here at washington hospital center. the shooter had been in the alexandra, virginia area since march. been members of the ymca, the staffers there said he had been a member there since april. a law enforcement official said he'd been living out of his vehicle in the area since march. erin? >> thank you very much. "out front" one congressman who was there at the shooting. republican gary palmer, yards away from congressman scalise on
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that baseball field. and i thank you for being with us, congressman. can't imagine what you went through. when this morning -- and it was just an early morning and i know you were all out. it was a beautiful morning. when did you realize that something awful was happening? >> well, when i heard the first gunshot i knew it was a gunshot. i yelled at trent that it was a gunshot. and trent said, yeah, or i know and then he yelled, he has a gun and yelled run! and as we were trying to get to cover, he fired a couple more shots. i know it was at least two shots and scalise was to my left and i saw him gol down. i knew he had been hit. i saw him go down and we got to cover outside the field and i want to say this. and it's been said many times
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already. the actions of the capital police were extraordinary. they showed extraordinary courage. i believe officer bayley was wounded. it may have been a shrapnel wound but he persisted in returning fire. crystal griner -- >> yes. >> -- was hit and i saw her pull herself to -- along the side of her suv to return fire on the shooter as well. these extraordinary people and they saved our lives. >> when this started -- and you heard that first shot and you knew there was something, could you see at any time, congressman, the shooter, to see his demeanor, how he appeared to be aiming? were you able to ascertain any of that? >> no. as soon as trent identified him and said he had a gun, we tried to get to cover. i didn't look back.
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i was actually looking at scalise and heard those two shots and saw steve go down. it's a miracle that he didn't hit congressman kelly. i believe that was his initial target. it's amazing to me that trent was maybe 15 yards from him and i was maybe 20 yards from him and he missed trent. >> you think he was aim at congressman kelly. >> initially he was and he may have continued to try to shoot congressman kelly. i don't know. it appeared to me that it was somewhat random at that point and he moved to another location and tried to work his way around to the first base side where so many of us had taken cover. and as one person's already described, the capital police went in. they ran to the sound of the guns and when the guy changed positions and they switched back that's when i think officer
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griner was hit. >> have you had a chance to speak with congressman scalise or liz family. i know his young wife and children are rushing to be by his side. >> well, i haven't. i think most of us real lies that at this point he needs his family around him. i'll say this about steve scalise. he's one of the ninest people i know. one of the nicest guys who is constantly encouraging everyone. i encourage all your viewers to play pray for his full recovery and for matt mika who was shot in the chest. >> i know you're talking about how initially you thought congressman kelly may have been the person he was targeting but then you saw him shoot congressman scalise. he had a social media presence. he made a post about congressman
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scalise. he wrote "here's a republican that should lose his job but they gave him a raise." do you think that from what you saw he targeted scalise separately or scalise was in the more random part of the fire? >> i really don't know after this initial shot. when he fired his weapon and trent kelly turned toward him, his help was opponentsed directly at trent. as i say, as we were trying to make our way to cover, i wasn't looking back to see where he was shooting and so i really couldn't say whether or not he targeted the whip but -- >> you talk about what confined of a man congressman scalise is. last week a person from will call spoke with him. you guys take this baseball very seriously. most americans don't know about
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it. it's a big deal. it's tomorrow night. he spoke to why is this game mattered so much to him. here's what he said. >> we're competitive people by nature. when you get to go out in a major league ballpark and play a kids' game, it's a lot of fun. >> how important is that game to you, congressman? will you be playing? >> i plan to be on the field. steve and i shared second base. i just happened to be over on the shortstop side this morning. and there's tremendous camaraderie that exists between the republicans and the democrats. we enjoy the competition with one another. it's a unique game and an american sport but it's also a tremendous fundraiser and in addition to the charities we're going to support, we're going to also support the fallen officers fund. >> when you talk about camaraderie, two of your people who had to leave earlier said
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the shooter asked whether the team practicing on the field was democrats or republicans do you believe that you all were targeted because you were republicans? >> i believe we were and what i would want to say to the american people is that our country's been torn apart. everybody, both sides need to tone it down. whether it's social media or showing up at town halls. we've got to come together for the future and the good of our country. i really believe this is a pivotal point in our history and as democrats, republicans, it really doesn't matter. we need to come together as americans and we really need to get back to a discourse to civil dialogue and work out these issues as we should. >> thank you so very much, congressman. i'm so glad that you are ok tonight. >> well, thank you, erin, for having me on. >> next, more of our breaking news coverage.
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we're learning new details about the shooter tonight including his well-documented hatred of the president of the united states. plus, a major turning point in the russian investigation. the president of the united states, donald trump under investigation for possible obstruction of justice. this is in a major report. you'll get all the details in a moment. will you be ready when the moment turns romantic? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis.
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. the man who opened fire on congressional republicans today, the baseball team shooting majority whip steve scalise and leaving him in critical condition now. we can tell you he was in washington, d.c. area for months. not from there but he had been there camping out in a camper. the fbi revealing he was living out of a van in alexandra, virginia, since march. more details emerging, including the shooter's facebook page, anti-trump and anti-gop. then this. a pattern of run-ins with the logs. phil mattingly is out front. >> reporter: tonight investigators are digging into the past of this 66-year-old man, james hodgkin'sson. a politically active individual
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infewer yieted with donald trump and the republican party. he called republicans stupid, wrote that america is full of them. said president trump has quote destroyed our democracy. it's time to destroy trump and company." he liked a political cartoon suggesting steve scalise should be fired. one concluded i've never said life sucks. only the policies of republicans. hodgkin'sson's photo transposed with the face of senator bernie sanders. sanders taking to the senate floor wednesday to acknowledge hodge kinson in may volunteered for his campaign and condemned his actions. >> i am sickened by this despigotble act. let me be as clear as i can be. violence of any kind is
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unacceptable in our societies and i condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. >> hodgkin'sson started his own home inspection company in 1994, only to quit the job on new year's eve last year. he was fired in three as an independent contractor from a st. clair intergovernmental department for unacceptable behavior. while kern wouldn't elaborate on that behavior itself he noted that rog kinsson returned in 2012 to ask for reinstatement. a search reveals seven run-ins with the law. a police report described him as allegedly punching a friend of his daughters in the face, firing off a gun, then dragging his daughter from a house by her hair, prying her out of a car by cutting her seat belt with a pocket knife.
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the charge was later dismised. law enforcement officials say they are searching for a nine millimeter hand gun and another gun. >> law enforcement has reason to believe that the shooter has been in alexandra, virginia area since march of this year. >> reporter: while back home a stun friend tried to defend a heinous act. >> i just want to let people know that he wasn't evil, that he was, i guess the tired of some of the politics that were going on. >> reporter: and one of the interesting elements is the secret service says he simply wasn't on their radar, despite the social media postings. he actually called congressman mice boss, his congress, a republican. according to the congressman.
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it's one of those things that raises a ton of questions. how he actually got to this point, what triggered this action. still a lot of work for investors in washington. >> phil, thank you. i want to go straight to james gagliano and art rodder rick. art, i know you've been talking to people working on this case. what have you been learning this evening? >> well, it seems like this individual per chance had frequented the y leer right next to the ball field and had seen this as a target of opportunity but apparently the congressman had been practicing here several times a week and he was able to gain access to the facility fairly easily. i don't think he ever interested the ball field at all. he was able to leave his vehicle, which he had been sleeping in, it was set up as a camper where he had a dividing
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tur contain between the front seats and the rear, so he was living out of the van and basically left his wreak, parked only ten yards from the third base dugout and began firing. this brings up the protection issue of senators and congressman when they're out in the public and specifically dealing with a large group of individuals, congressmen at a sperveg location. job and we heard from congressman palmer telling us how hero i can those officers were. if they had not been there, this could have truly been horrific. >> we were talking to a bartender earlier today. didn't look like the kind of person who was living out of a camper but was surly. had been there a couple of months. left his family to come here. when you put it all together, does it sound like he was planning for this specific target or was it a target of opportunity? >> sure.
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definitely seems like there was motive. you can go back in the facebook posts and whether or not he likes a political tar coon -- cartoon, that's one piece of it. there's three ways that this could come under fbi purview. first is terrorist act. this could count as that. the second is political as nation. in the united states we want people to think wa they want, post what they want and we don't want to arrest for thoughts. assault on federal naefrs, those two incredibly brave capital police officers. >> i want to play a clip of the time around the shooting. i want to ask you to about the shots here. here it is. [ gunfire ]
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>> art, jeff told snaen the 50 shorts sort of reported initially he thought were an understatement to what happened there today. we know two firearms were recovered, sks rifle, a nine millimeter pennsylvania. if you didn't have people shooting back, what could have happened here? >> when you look at it in an sks rifle with an effective range up to 300 yards easily and it's a high caliber, high-velocity type weapon, i don't know if he knew this was a soft target or thought it was a soft target. in realty. you had a protection detail here. it's hard to tell what his mind set was and figured out how he picked this particular location
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where the congressmen were at. i'll tell you, it could have been very, very bad if these two capital police officers weren't there and you had alexandra p.d. respond so quickly. when you look at this individual and his background you almost have a checklist of preincident indicators, it's called in the protective services, that they check a lot of the boxes. >> checked a lot of the boxes but there have got to be a lot of people who check a lot of these boxes. just posting something democrats or republicans are evil is predicate. >> his background is in the secret service. they're going to look at the facebook page and say you should have arrested the guy. but we get something on omar matin. he's an isis sympathizer a year
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ago. you can't arrest people for thought. if somebody makes an overt threat, yes, you can go visit them, interview them. there are statues in place to do that. it's very difficult in the united states for trying to arrest somebody for thought. >> a major development in the russia investigation at this hour. president trump now being investigated personally for possible obstruction of justice. this is according to the washington pores. the reporter who wrote this story is next. we're also getting new information on the victims from today's shooting rampage. we'll have that for you later this hour. ched to the best dealn america. total wireless. she gets the largest most dependable 4g lte network... ...and 5gigs of high speed data for $35 a month. make it rain, beth. total wireless. available at walmart.
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major report that you have here. so let's start with this crucial news that donald trump himself, the president of the united states is now under investigation. >> yes. we heard the fbi director testify before the hill that the president was not under investigation. he testified that he told the president three times he wasn't under investigation. but what changed was after the firing of james comey and trump said it was because of the russian investigation, the fbi began to examine, investigate the president for obstruction of justice and now we know that special counsel mueller is continuing that and expanding that and interviewing senior intelligence officials that also were witnesses to conversations with the president about the russia probe. >> let's go through continuing and expanding. first continuing. to your knowledge, when did this personal investigation of the president of the united states
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and the russia probe begin? do you know the date or about the date? >> yes. we're told that the investigation into obstruction of justice commenced days after fbi the director james comey was fired. >> so that was may 9th. early to mid may, the president is under investigation. now let's talk about what you just said. that it has expanded. expanded to what? can you explain a little bit more? >> we know that within days, as early as this week, special counsel mueller is going to be interviewing several key intelligence officials. one is dan coats, the director of national intelligence. the other is mike rogers, admiral mike rogers, head of the nsa and his former deputy richard leg get. shortly after coats was confirmed for his position, he was in the white house and had a
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conversation with the president. the president said can you do something to get fbi director comey to back off the investigation of former national security director flynn. this is something that comey talked about in his testimony that the president had expressed to him he wanted him to pack off that. >> this is going to be a crucial part of the question of obstruction of justice. you also reports and i want to be clear, you and your colleagues are saying five people briefed on these requests, so when people come out and criticize for sourcing, i want to make sure you have five sources who know what's going on here. you also report in this article something that i think could be very crucial for those trying to understand what the president of the united states is actually under investigation for tonight. and you say this: dwoit the interview suggests mueller sees the attempted obstruction of justice question as more than just a "he said-she said"
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dispute between he and the fired fbi director. so to your point, this isn't -- this is bigger than that because of the involvement of coats, roger rogers. >> exactly. and besides the conversation i just told you about regarding coats we know that president trump called dan coats and rogers on the phone and ask them to come out and say there was no evidence of collusion between trump associates and election b officials. rogers former deputy, richard ledge jet wrote an internal nsa memo that documented that conversation. >> ok. so there is a nem there as well. do you have any understanding as to the motive for that mem? we know comey's motive was he
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feltd it inappropriate and he wanted to memorialize themselves extensively. do you have any reason why this other memo? >> ledggett, i take he wanted t document a phone call from the president of the united states to the head of the nsa asking him to say publicly that there was no evidence of collusion between trump and the russians. >> one more question. >> sure. >> we know the president of the united states had asked repeatedly to assure the american people he's not under investigation. you're reporting tonight, the president of the united states is under fernl investigation. do you know if he's aware of,000 or is he also finding out from your report tonight? >> well, we called the white house and the white house was not aware of it. we called his laush. it does not appear that he was aware of it until we got in
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touch with white house officials and his lawyer. >> all right. thank you very much. i appreciate your time. of course, this is a major turning point, this report from the washington post. john avelon joins you can, gloria borger and jeffrey toobin. david sanger also here. gloria, let me start with you. this will be a major turning point. this. was not under personal investigation, that is, until he fired the fbi director and he now is under personal investigation, the washington post reports. >> yeah. you know, it's the first real sign that the question of obstruction is being investigated by the special counsel. don't forget. this is an investigation that started out about russian medaling into the american election process and now according to the washington post reporting, the special counsel mueller has broadened his investigation as often occurs
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with these special counsel investigations and has broadened it to look into this question of obstruction and whether the president was involved in that. so i do think, erin, that it is quite significant. >> john? >> no question significant. what i think it does is it cod fiez the firing of comey seems to have triggered a broader investigation. the president had not been a target but the firing of comey seems to have expanded the investigation, refrigerators the fbi and now from the washington post. it's a great group of reporters knitting together a pattern of the president, requesting people to back off an ongoing investigation. it's the crime as much as the coverup more than the crime and this is a significant step to codify the fact that this is ongoing. it forces the white house's hand with all the drum breathe beating and flag waving about
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fire i firing jeff flynn. >> the president himself is under investigation according to the washington post but they are clearly looking for evidence of financial crimes among trump associates. this had broadened under muller as in suspected it might. jeffrey, if there is no underlying crime but they find that he had an effort to obstruct an investigation in and of itself, what are the ramifications of that? >> there doesn't have to be an underlying crime for obstruction of justice to take place. that's long established law. that makes sense. the people involved in obstruction of justice can't know for certain that a crime took place and there will be a prosecution and a conviction, but -- so it is not at all required that there be an underlying problem. having listened to comey's
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public testimony, this decision by mueller was a forgone conclusion. the evidence of obstruction of justice was so significant, i mean of -- >> but certainly you saw it that way. >> i was -- >> you were clear about that. >> yeah. and i'm not saying trump is guilty of it but certainly it merits investigation. here you have someone -- the head of the united states government saying to his subordinate, stop investigating my friend and then when he doesn't stop investigating his friend, he fires that person, he fires comey and now we have this potential evidence of other people in the government. >> right. >> rogers, coats, rogers' deputy, who all may have evidence that trump said, look, let's back off this investigation. that's worth investigating for obstruction of justice. >> coats and rogers when they went before congress, rights, to testify about this, david. they were asked specifically
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where the -- whether the president of the united states had asked them to interfere with the fbi, right? this is rogers and coats. let me play their answers for you. >> i'm not prepared to answer your question today. >> i'm not going to discuss the specifics of conversations with the president of the united states. >> now with this reporting, david, it becomes much more interesting, their refusal to answer the question. >> it does, erin. it was particularly interesting at the time because if you lined it up with what james comey said just days before, what did comey tell you? first he described his conversation with the president. he said he turned the originals of his notes over to the special counsel, bob mueller. then when asked whether he believed that this constituted obstruction of justice he said bob muller's going to have to decide that. he pretty wet signalled where this was going. then you saw muller begin to
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hire people who were specialists in obstruction of justice. then you move on to what you showed the clip of. we have the oddity which we all focused in on at the time. he had two officials who were refusing to discuss what they said with the president. but also admitted that there would be no invocation of executive privilege. just wanted him to leave the room in case he wanted to declare executive privilege later. this is not going to work with bob mueller. this is jeffrey's area rather than mine but you can't invoke executive privilege in order to stop a criminal investigation? >> is that true, jeffrey? in days they'll have to answer the questions, right? >> even in office interviews with the fbi or in the grand jury and what's quite clear under the law is that they on their own cannot invoke
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executive privilege. only the president can invoke it in trying to stop them from testifying, but what we know from the supreme court's decision in united states versus nixon in 1974 is that they are -- the courts are not going to stop a criminal investigation and are not going to limit the questioning of potential witnesses. so i think executive privilege, even if the trump administration invoked -- is not going to be able to stop it. >> today, john, we have video. mueller had a meeting where senators bufr and warner, obviously, the chairmen of the senate intelligence committee. he is going full bore ahead. >> yep. >> erin, i would have to say to you that this is exactly what james comey had in mind. >> right. >> when he had his friend leak that memo about the president asking him if he could go easy on flynn, because he knew that it would lead to the mueller
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investigation of this question of obstruction, and so i think this is precisely what comey wanted because he believed -- >> yes. >> -- after listening to the president that he was fired because of russia. i also believe rod rosenstein gave us a hint in his testimony yesterday when he was asked about this and he said he expected mueller to be investigated these kinds of questions and he refused to comment, so again -- >> what is -- yes. >> it's not a surprise. >> what is the significance, david and john -- david you first -- on the fact that the president is finding this out tonight. ok. this is a man who has been obsessed with not being under investigation, right? part of this is that he kept going to comey and said tell them i'm not under investigation. what is the toll it will take on him? >> the great irony here, erin, is that it was his fear of --
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that comey would eventually put him under investigation that led to the firing of comey, we believe, or at least his concern about what comey said in public in the testimony. now, we've read in the past couple of days that he has also mulled and been viesed against trying to fire mueller. if the post reporting is correct, and as we all agreed, all of the testimony we've heard so far would lead you to believe that mueller has to be investigating this, it's got to raise in the president's mind again whether he should be tempted to go do that. i'm sure now he'll have a lot of people surrounding him saying than wouldn't be a good idea to fire many in the midst of a hearing. >> yeah. >> that's right. i think to david's point, this has the quality of this d.c. morrow henry story what the
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president is trying to avoid is what he provokes with the rash action. the president's own wo words kproo dikting the cover story pushed by the administration. he said sure, it was russia. then the tapes that came out in the meeting with the russians all lead one logically to ask the question of the you take the president at his word, what role stopping or backing off russia and the flynn firing would do? the second thing is the con tem rain yus memo from the fsa. feeling the president had put inappropriate evidence. that is is going to be difficult to disprove. >> very significant. another memo not from jim comey. thank you all and more on the breaking news. president trump reportedly under investigation as part of the russia probe. a top democrat on the judiciary committee joins me to talk about this next.
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out front now, democratic senator, i want to get your reaction to this breaking news just crossing now from the washington post. they have five sources briefed on the question saying that the president of the united states is now under investigation by bob mueller for possible obstruction of justice. your reaction? >> this is a very stunning development, there were certainly hints and allegations in the previous hearings by other committees, that there might be some reason for there to be a broader investigation. but this report in the "washington post" this evening suggests strongly, given five different sources that the scope of the investigation has changed, since the firing of the fbi director, and is now targeted directly at the president and his actions which
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may amount to obstruction of justice. >> does this make you more likely as a member of the judiciary committee that there was obstruction of justice when you put all this together or do you think it's too early to draw a conclusion? >> i think it's too early to draw a conclusion, there's certainly lots of smoke here, a lot of concerning and even alarming stories from fbi director comey about what led up to his private meeting where he urged him to back off on the investigation of the national security advisor. i'm glad we heard directly from rob rosenstein that he will have t the -- >> in this "washington post" report, say it wasn't just comey that was asked to stop the investigation into michael flynn, they talked about the time that the president talked
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to both the head of the judicial committee and the national security agency. when the president called mr. rogerin ingsed asked him to is public statement that there was no collusion between the trump administration and russians. then he wrote a memo, he wanted to document it. that makes us think about jim comey and how he wanted documentation. last week james comey asked on capitol hill, he was asked directly, did you ever feel pressure to act improperly. which would appear to fit right with this phone call, right? he did answer this question, and here's what he said. >> in the three plus years that i have been director of the national security agency, to the best of my recollection i have never been asked to do anything
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illegal, immoral, unethical or inappropriate. and during that period of service, i do not recall feeling pressured to do so. >> he's saying, obviously somebody felt something because there was a memo, right? and he was asked to deny the existence of any evidence of - coordination between the trump campaign and the russian government. do you think that was not illegal, immoral, unethical or inappropriate? >> that's one possible way to square his answer in front of the committee with that understanding of his conversation. this is why i'm glad there is a highly competent independent special counsel who's going to be able to take sworn testimony about this matter, because there seems to be such a real gap between what we understand to have been the conversations between the president, the director of intelligence and the head of the nsa. this is a very difficult, very important matter and i'm really
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grad we have got the opportunity now to get to the bottom of it promptly. >> this is obviously a stunning development. the president does not seem to be in any way aware that he is under investigation until this story broke, and we know this is something he's going to be very concerned about. he said to "the washington post," the fbi leak regarding the president is outrageous, inexcusable and illegal. does he have a point? is he right? should we know this from leaks? >> it's not clear that this leak is from the fbi, i'll just point that out. but it is important that we continue -- >> but it's from someone? >> respect that classified information, that information about this ongoing conduct of this investigation shouldn't be leaked. i trust bob mueller, i trust the special counsel and i think it's important that all of us oppose illegal and unethical leaking and that we should wait for this investigation to reach it's
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appropriate conclusion. >> senator coons, i appreciate you being with us tonight. and more breaking news, an attack on a member of congress. we have more information on those who were injured in the horrific attack. where are we? about to see progressive's new home quote explorer. where you can compare multiple quote options online and choose what's right for you. woah. flo and jamie here to see hqx. flo and jamie request entry. slovakia. triceratops. tapioca. racquetball. staccato. me llamo jamie.
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back to our breaking news tonight, a gunman going into a shooting rampage on a member of a house of congress. we have learned more about the gunman's assault. a lobbiest who was on the team was shot in the test and is in critical condition. his family says he's fun loving and thoughtful and loyal. and zac bailey he also rushed
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in to the fire. that charity baseball game which is scheduled for tomorrow will go on. and it is time now for anderson. >> good evening from washington, there's a lot going on tonight, news breaking right now on the russian investigation, and it directly involves the president of the united states. it comes at the end of a very difficult day. four people who work in the buildings around me, including steve scalise, the third ranking republican after the speaker of the house. today the actions of a would-be mass killer tore apart human bodies, assaulted the body politic perhaps in the ugly service of some misbegotten