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we don't know the details yet, but this sounds cool. phelps already scouting the competition. he posted this picture on instagram with him cable driving with great white sharks. researchers say sharks swim about 5 miles per hour but can reach up to 25 miles per hour. at his prime, phelps was racing at about 6 miles per hour. this is interesting. i wanted to see this happen. >> who do you have the money on? go with the shark every time. go with the shark. all right. thank you. >> president trump saying publicly for the first time that he is under investigation. >> i think it's an example of the president taking no responsibility for anything he does. >> he is adding more fire power to his legal team. >> president trump hired another high profile lawyer to defend him in the russian investigation. >> this is very, very serious. an obstruction of justice charge is very serious. an obstruction of justice charge is very serious. he just can't contain himself. >> the president of the united states cannot obstruct justice.
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if he wants to fire the fbi director, all he has to do is fire him. >> we got to the point where the president's own lawyer has to hire a lawyer. >> nobody has unimpeachable credentials. >> this is a president who engaged in questionable behavior over the last several months. >> if he's really not guilty, then he will be happy to be exonerated by somebody who is out to find the truth. ♪ this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. good morning, everyone. i'm rene marsh in for christi paul. thanks for joining us. >> i'm victor blackwell. happy saturday to you. the search for seven missing sailors continues off the coast of japan where a u.s. navy destroyer collided with a merchant ship in the early morning hours. drivers are set to inspect the "uss fitzgerald," which is now back at port in yokosuka, japan.
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the ship took on water after sustaining damage both above and below the waterline on its starboard side. the warship's captain, along with two other u.s. servicemen are listed in stable condition after being medevac'd to a naval hospital. >> the names of the missing are being withheld until families can be fonotified. president trump is adding a high profile washington lawyer to his defense team amid the expanding russia investigation. now on board is attorney john dowd, who once led the investigation into the pete rose betting scandal for major league baseball. also cnn learning that tensions are rising at the justice department over this russia probe. the man who named the special counsel this incident occurred off the may have to recuse himself.
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>> it appears the special council's probe could broaden to include the president's firing of fbi director james comey and whether that was an obstruction of justice. cnn's jeremy dimon is live at the white house. what are you learning about what's going on at the justice department and is the white house reacting at all about this news? >> rene, tensions are building inside the justice department as the special investigation is widening and looking at whether or not the president may interfered into that meddling into the 2016 campaign. that investigation looking into whether there were ties between trump campaign associates and russian officials. all of this widening probe has led to questions about whether the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, may need to recuse himself from this matter. as you know, rosenstein
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recommended that the president fire fbi director james comey in a memo, and comey later was fired. comey's firing or trump's firing of comey may now be part of that investigation led by special counsel robert mueller. of course many of these tensions happening at the justice department have a root right here at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. that's because the president has been enraged in recent weeks over sessions' recusal, which rosenstein recommended with regard to the probe. following that recusal, rosenstein, of course, was the one to appoint robert mueller to the special counsel position. that, of course, sent the president off yesterday. we know the president was going off on twitter and accusing now -- appearing to accuse deputy attorney general rod rosenstein of being part of this witch hunt. >> no you have the president
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seemingly upset at the two top people at his justice department. jeremy diamond live at the white house, thank you very much. we have cnn politics reporter eugene scott, kelly jane torens and danny savalos with us. danny, if a recusal is to avoid not just actual impropriety and actual conflict of interest but the appearance of those two, why hasn't rod rosenstein recused himself yet? >> that's a good question in that it certainly is doj policy, it is either actual impropriety or the appearance of a conflict or the lost of that impartiality is another factor in the code of regulations and the u.s. attorney's manual. there is also a process under doj procedure whereby you report your perceived conflict of
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interest and your higher ups decide -- your section chief as it is, decides whether or not there is a conflict of interest or the appearance requiring the recusal. the strange thing here is that we are at the apex. there are not a lot of section chiefs above rosenstein in the chain of command to report to and to give him the final word. it is a deliberative process. it is not done overnight. >> eugene, if rosenstein -- and we had another legal analyst, joey jackson on who said it is not a matter of if, but when rosenstein recuses himself, he would then report to whom? >> we know rachel brame was a trump appointee that the president brought into his administration because of the advice of people on his team who thought that she was someone who could benefit his agenda and bring it forward.
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the questions that many people would most be interested in is what role would she have and continuing the investigation. if she is someone that the american people would be able to trust to get to the bottom of these questions that people on both sides of the i'll have abo aisle have. >> the question and conversation, not just the recusal for rosenstein but being fired by the president, even the special counsel, bob mueller being fired, how real is that possibility? >> let's keep in mind just a week or so ago we were talking about whether trump might fire jeff sessions. this is a president who makes his opinions of his employees known and not just to them, but to the public through twitter. it's quite incredible. we heard just this week he was thinking of firing mueller. his aides apparently talked him
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down from that. he's upset with rosenstein, not only because rosenstein was one of the people who recommended, as you mentioned, that jeff sessions recuse himself which trump was very unhappy about, but he is the guy who appointed robert mueller. trump thinks that robert mueller is behind all of his problems now. i think it's obvious that donald trump himself is behind all these problems now. if he had not fired comey when he did and in the way he did and with what he said about it afterwards, he would not be facing right now possible obstruction of justice charges and an investigation. >> evan peres is reporting tensions now within the department of justice and, you know, we've outlined the players here. i wonder one specific instance, one event is being pointed to as one of the routes here, when the attorney general learned of the appointment of bob mueller, sessions was at the white house, and he learned about it when
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everyone else did. is that protocol even considering the recusal from the attorney general? >> i think we're well beyond normal protocol. when you look again at the u.s. attorney manual, the code of federal regulations, eastern these tree tatices did not anticipate that. issues of recusal are covered. issues of making public statements are covered under the regulations. i think that's unusual for there not to be knowledge within the department of justice. as we said many times, we're in new ground right here. >> eugene, i wanted to come to you first for the political consequence, then back to daniel for the legal consequence. if the president was to take the advice of his friend and adviser, roger stone and to fire both mueller and rosenstein, first politically, what's the
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consequences for the president? >> the consequences for people who already are not on the trump train would be that it looks like he's trying to cover something. if he really is as innocent as he professes that he is, an investigation should reveal that and would actually put all of this to rest, which is what the president actually seems to say that he wants to happen. if that's not what an investigation revealsreveals, i be problematic. >> legal consequences, danny? >> they're's two-ways to look a this one is that the president as chief executive hat power, legal authority to fire anybody in the justice department that he wants with impunity. the other way to look at it is this, there are many times that even a legal action can become an illegal action. it with become obstruction of justice, if it is done can construct intent. done for an improper purpose.
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there are many examples of this in federal criminal law, which is incredibly expansive. the obstruction of justice laws stand as a shining example of the expansiveness of federal law. even a lawful act can become an unlawful act if done krucorrupt. >> kelly, the president expanding his legal team, adding john dowd. the significance of his addition? >> it's interesting because people are talking about also vice president mike pence added a lawyer this week in the probe. it's totally normal when any investigation like this is going on to lawyer up, as they say. the question is why is trump and others hiring so many. it seems to me the same question could be asked about why trump keeps tweeting about this and is upset about this. if nothing happened, if he did not do anything wrong, why hasn't he let an investigation go ahead?
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if he had not fired comey, we would not be talking about this, that investigation would have taken place more quickly. this does raise questions about why does he feel the need to be so defensive. >> we heard at the top of the show that even now the president's lawyer has a lawyer. >> exactly. >> kelly, eugene, danny, thank you all. >> thank you. this morning congressman steve scalise is still in critical condition after this week's shooting ambush in virginia. doctors say they are encouraged by the progress the majority whip made since the attack. they said the congressman was in imminent risk of death when he arrived at the hospital on wednesday, but now he's stabilized. new details on the state of mind of the shooter, james hodgkinson. that's the man you're looking at there. law enforcement sources confirm to cnn that a list of names including some republican members of congress was found on the shooter. none of the victims in the
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attack were on that list, and a source says it is not clear at this point if it was an assassination list. we've been following this story overnight. this u.s. warship is back at port after suffering sis can't dama significant damage off the coast of japan. we have the latest on the continuing search for those missing and the injuries. and thousands march after the acquittal of the officer who shot philando castile. >> no justice, no peace. 60% of women are wearing the wrong size pad and...
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fitzgerald," is now back at port where divers are set to inspect the damage. rego now to tokyo for more. >> it's been nearly 18 hours since this collision occurred. but still there are many unanswered questions including the fate of the seven missing seamen who were on board the "uss fitzgerald" when this collision occurred. we also don't know how and why this collision occurred in the first place. the "uss fitzgerald" is one of the most advanced technologically in the u.s. fleet and it collide with a container vessel in the middle of the night. we do know three of the injured including the commander were airlifted out and they're in stable condition. we also do know that the "uss fitzgerald" has returned to it's home port where it began the trip on friday. but night has fallen here in japan. it's very dark outside already. the divers will be trying to get
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in under the waterline to see where and how the damage occurred. because we only see pictures of the damage to the right-hand side above the waterline. but the serious damage is likely to be below the surface. we're talking about areas like the machine room, the radio room, and the u.s. navy said they don't know yet when and how they can get into that area. but divers will be trying to gain access to that area to have more detail into how this accident occurred. 18 hours in, we still have many unanswered questions as to how this collision could have occurred to begin with. >> let me ask you this quickly. i know you said night is falling right now. do you get any sense as to whether that will impact the search operation? will they stop for the night and resume at sunup or will they do this around-the-clock? >> there's been no update from the u.s. navy or the japanese coast guard as to whether or not
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they will terminate the search and rescue operation. my understanding is that it's an ongoing effort by helicopters and vessels in the area. this is a highly trafficked area. my best guess would be that since there are some other vessels in the area, 400, 500 ships traveling around the area, the search will continue. as of this moment we have no update as to when or whether or not they plan to continue this rescue operation into the night. >> of course finding those missile sailors is truly the priority here. thank you very much. >> also new this morning, let's take to you minnesota where state police arrested 18 people protesting the acquittal of a st. paul police officer in the death of this man, the shooting death of philando castile. >> no justice, no peace! >> about 2,000 demonstrators were marching peacefully through
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the city. they chanted, there were hymns, and they denounced what they call police terror. others filled in a memorial with flowers and handwritten signs. the protests went into the night, about 500 people you see here marched on to the interstate shutting down traffic in both directions. authorities say 18 people were arrested because they failed to comply with officers orders to disperse. officer geronimo yanez fatally shot castile during a traffic stop in july. the incident drew national attention when castile's girlfriend started live streaming in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. yanez was acquitted of second degree manslaughter and other charges. up next, the murder rate in some inner cities is skyrocketing. now many many those communities a are looking to president trump for help and asking is the
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president trump on the defense beefing up his legal team with a high profile lawyer to take on the expanding russia investigation. >> this after the president openly acknowledged on twitter that he's being investigated for firing fbi director james comey and placing the blame squarely on his deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. the statement is putting new scrutiny on rosenstein and creating friction within the justice department. lawmakers are questioning whether rosenstein will be forced to recuse himself over his role in comey's firing. >> you are living in poverty, your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to
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lose? >> then candidate donald trump offered that stunning pitch to black voters across the country and wentise that only he could bring back job and restore law and order to america's inner cities. fast forward to today and many communities are not seeing the change that president trump promised. let me take to you my hometown of baltimore. homicides this year are increasing to record levels. a lot of people there tell me that they're frightened of the spike in crime and they're waiting for the trump administration to deliver on this promise to, as the president said, straighten it out. >> when you're in this neighborhood you're guaranteed to hear at least one shot. >> reporter: this time the shot was a few doors away. 37-year-old charmain wilson was killed this week. >> gunned her down in front of her children. >> reporter: one of six people shot to death over a matter of
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hours monday night into tuesday in baltimore. these two are so afraid of retaliation they won't show their face. according to the baltimore sun there have been more than 150 homicides in baltimore this year. it's the highest rate in its history. these communities and the local leaders they elected are desperate for solutions. and president trump says he has it. >> i will restore law and order to our country. >> reporter: as a candidate donald trump promised to make inner cities safer, highlighting baltimore often. >> there's killings on an hourly basis virtually in places like baltimore. >> baltimore. >> young americans in baltimore. >> we'll get rid of the crime. you'll be able to walk down the street without getting shot. we'll straighten it out. >> reporter: that promise to straighten it out and make our communities safe again was at the center of trump's proposed new deal for black america, calling safety a civil right,
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and crime reduction a necessity. kimberly is a minister and community activist in baltimore. she agrees with the president's goals, but as the body count grows in her community, she wonders what he will do to achieve it and when. >> i think it sounds great on paper. but when and how will we really receive the benefits? >> reporter: one approach that benefits baltimore now, community collaboration. >> about 50 plus officers that are specifically designated to be in the community. they don't, you know, answer crime calls or things like that. they build relationships. right here. they build relationships. >> reporter: those relationships are often crucial in resolving disputes before they turn viole violent. despite president trump's proposal to invest more in law enforcement, the 2018 budget request slashes the community
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force by 45%. and the federal grant that's city relied on po fund tto fund community squad is cut in half. >> what was supposed to happen with safer communities, i'm not sure. but community policing is something that our urban communities need. especially considering some of the things that happened with the police relations, something like that was essential. >> reporter: guns are not only dangers on these streets. the heroin epidemic ruined lives and blighted neighborhoods here. >> we know drugs and crime go hand in hand. they just do. the facts prove that's so. >> reporter: attorney general jeff sessions believes going after the drug dealer also reduce shooting deaths. >> going forward, i have empowered our prosecutors to charge and pursue the most serious offense as i believe the law requires, most serious readily provable offense. >> reporter: now the trump
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administration has overturned obama-era policies that reserved the most severe drug sentences for high level and drug traffickers. >> you can't address crime by locking all people up. >> reporter: jake oliver is ceo of the african-american newspaper, published in baltimore for 125 years. >> i think they're taking a sledgehammer to a problem that needs to be more sensitive in it being addressed. you just can't eliminate something by stomping it out. the program that his attorney general produced is an insult. >> reporter: katherine pew is baltimore's mayor. >> the focus by the justice department on reducing crime is a maker o major one for all cit across the nation. >> reporter: she appreciates any investment. >> so to the extent that we're looking at investing in police departments by providing them with the technology and so forth
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that they need to help us continue to deal with this particular problem, it's major for most urban cities. >> reporter: but mayor pew says an investment in law enforcement alone will not make baltimore safer. >> we hope the administration understands if we're going to improve crime in neighborhoods and communities that means investment in neighborhoods and communities. that means fixing neighborhoods that have been broken. fixing jobs to reduce unemployment. >> reporter: back on gertrude street, neighbors are comforting charmain's eight children and recounting the story of one of baltimore's latest shooting victims. at least until the next shots are fired. >> every night. this is an ongoing thing. it never ceases. >> i'm just over this whole city. >> joining me now to discuss are paris denard and simone sanders.
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good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me start with the question of the role of the federal executive in dealing with the crimes in u.s. cities. president trump excoriated president obama over crime in cities. should we hold trump accountable now for the crime in the cities? >> first, let me just stop and point out this is such an important piece that you did on your hometown of baltimore. i think the more attention we put on it from people like yourself and the president, i think we can collaboratively come together to try to find solutions. to your point about the role of the federal government, i think what you see now is president trump is realizing that there is -- there are limitations to what you can do in the role as president of the united states. when you are ceo of your own
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company, there's more leeways that you have and more things you can do with the stroke of a pen or with the sound of your voice. as president there's limitations. so you are seeing a lot of executive orders coming out specifically talking about crime and justice, things of that nature. but it is difficult to do this work. but when you look at the fact that over eight years, the crime rate that affected chicago and places like baltimore were sky high over the obama administration, that was over eight years. i think the president has to take some responsibilities as president of the united states, and that comes with the good and the bad. with the spikes in baltd moth s are seeing the bad, but we should give him time with respect to the executive orders, the commissions, and the groups he tried to put together so he they can try to make a difference with the president and the may ner baor in baltimo. >> the president talks about a
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new deal, but the mayor of newark talks about an urban revitalization plan, for cities like newark, like baltimore, detroit, minneapolis, chicago. that's what president trump and the administration needs to look at. we know law and order does not work. restarting the war on drugs in that piece you played from attorney general sessions, that's what this is. if we really wanted to reduce crime in communities, revitalize our communities, we need work force investment programs, commitment from companies to relocate, participate in jobs programs. we need all these other things. we need community policing. we need to rethink what it means to be safe if communities. if you only attack the issues through we need more police on the street, that does not -- that does not accomplish the totality of what needs to be done. >> paris , one element symone
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mentioned, the c.o.p.s. program, a 45% cut in work force in the 2018 budget proposal. this is not just baltimore, you can go to states across the country. i read a piece thefrom a police chief in south carolina who says this works, why cut it? this is a tough time. tough decisions have to be made. across the board cuts have been in the president's proposed budget to congress. but what we do know is that will go to the congress. the congress will control the purse strings. i'm sure members of congress will do the right thing -- >> but the president's budget sets his priorities. we know that the congress -- >> that's true. >> and they carry the burden of the purse strings. but the president sets his priorities. this from at least the 2018 justice department request says that this is not one. >> as i understand it, and the president's budget did not call for the elimination of it but
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the reduction of it. you saw reductions across the board when it came to prioritizing and how to get $56 billion into the department of defense. i will go back to one quick thing -- >> just a minute left. very quickly. ten seconds. >> symone made a good point. it's a comprehensive strategy. the president's plan talked about education, it talked about crime but also talks about jobs. you can't just focus on one. you have to focus on all three. >> the question is when will the president deliver. he's only a few months in. >> we got to keep waiting apparently, victor. >> symone, the civil rights commission is launching this two-year investigation into the trump administration on the rollback of civil rights offices. here is a part of the statement. these proposed cuts would result in a dangerous reduction of civil rights enforcement across the country leaving communities of color, lgbt people, older people, people with disabilities and other marginalized groups
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exposed to greater risk of chris dim natio discrimination. >> our civil rights are under attack. not because i think the president is targeting the civil rights of minorities in america, but we are verbal casualties of war. it's important that we stay vigilant. we have seen reductions from the administration in their civil rights division that directly correlates to the quality of life for people in places across america. >> paris, why are these cutbacks -- in the statement they announced rollbacks in the civil rights divisions of department of justties, labor, housing and urban development. why these cuts? you say these are tough times, but civil rights? >> when you look at the issue of civil rights cuts at education specifically, you know, the secretary of education said she was going to look at these and make sure that they are being applied appropriately. but she -- i think when you look at the independent commission of civil rights made up of a lot of
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prm president obama appointees, they are looking at it in a different way and the interpretation of how these things should be regulated, it's a difference of opinion on how we interpret it. but make no question about it, this president is determined to help civil rights. it's just how you do it. people at the white house are working hard on this we just need to give them time and the understanding that they'll get something done. >> i don't think there's real room on civil rights or civil liberties for the american people. but that's just me. >> thank you both. i wanted to take just this moment to correct one thing i said in that story. i said african-american newspaper, it is the afro american newspaper. 125 years there in baltimore and washington, still being published today.
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so this has been going on 50 plus hours. they've come back to the judge asking multiple questionquestiot 12 questions. what can we draw as a conclusion due to the fact they keep going back to the judge about questions and items they need to be clarified? >> this is definitely a thoughtful jury. this is a jury that wants to look at the evidence. but there is also a view that's possible. you may have at this point one, two, maybe three hold-outs, a minority of jurors. and the majority of jurors are just by a war of attrition reading and rereading testimony to those jurors who may be sitting there in a corn wer their ar corner with their arms folded refusing to listen. but any sort of jury conjecture is astrology. completely imagining what's going on. we may find f we ever speak to those jurors after the case that we were way off in our
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assessment. but the judge has to be mindful at this point that he does not coerce a verdict or the verdict is not the product of the juror's fatigue. if it will, an appeals court may overturn that verdict, where a judge pushes those jurors just too hard. >> from your background, you're an expert in this topic. when you see a jury deadlocked. coming back to the judge multiple times to have things clarified, to ask multiple questions. does history show that this is any indication that the jury can go one way versus the other? >> a lot of this is mythology. when a jury is out -- as attorneys, we look at each other, we're either telling each other what we want to hear or just guessing. you have no idea what's going on in there. there is some conventional wisdom that says the longer the jury is out, the worse that may be for the defense. i think even that is not a hard and fast rule.
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one thing cosby's attorneys are concerned about, any jurors holding out fon ar an acquittaly be getting beaten down at this point. which is why they keep going for a mistrial, because they generally believe based on their observations and getting to know the jurors through jury selection and trial, their sense, their instinct is that the ones holding out for an acquittal are at this point getting hammered down but those who want to convict. because, you know, it's really just about being sure about one's doubt. >> just really quick. at what point does the judge make the decision to call a mistrial? how long does this go on for? >> under pennsylvania law, there is no hard and fast rule, no time limit on how long jurors can deliberate. the magic words are k s ars are
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fatigue. the jurors may want to keep working if it's a complicated tax case t could last a few weeks. but the judge must be mindful that he's not pushing the jurors beyond their physical and emotional limit. that becomes an appealable issue. this morning congressman steve scalise is in critical condition still after this week's shooting ambush in virginia. doctors say they are encouraged by the progress the majority whip has made since the attack. they said the congressman was in imminent risk of death when he arrived at the hospital on wednesday. he's now stable. we have new details on the state of mind of the shooter, james hodgkinson a law enforcement source confirmed to cnn that a list of names was found on the shooter. none of the victims in the attack was on that list. and the source says it is not clear if it was an assassination list.
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52 hours of deliberation for the cosby jurors. we will look at the trial and message bill cosby had for supporters at the top of the hour. if you're a competitive runner, you know the routine, set goals, train hard, get injured. one group wants runners to enjoy the journey more by using their minds to go the distance. >> running is just being present, being in the moment while you're running, paying close attention without judgment. people that i think are drawn to running tend to be goal setters, they really focus on the result. we can be really hard on ourselves, i must do this, i can't fail at that.
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the truth. well, good morning, everyone. i am renee marsh, in for christi paul. >> good to be with you. i am victor blackwell. happy saturday. following two stories. first, the bill cosby trial. jurors ended five days of deliberations without a verdict. >> and they head back to the courtroom just about an hour from now to resume deliberations after declaring they were deadlocked thursday. the panel has been steadily revisiting hours of testimony. >> for the first time, cosby addressed his supporters last night just after leaving the courthouse. >> i want to thank the jury for their long days, their honest work

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