♪ i am michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. the president declared war on the number two man in the justice department. might rod rosenstein be fired or forced to recuse himself in the russia probe? and on the eve of megyn kelly's nbc interview with him, controversial radio host alex jones starts leaking tapes that he secretly made of her promises during negotiations. is he already getting the last word? >> it's not going to be some gotcha hit piece, i promise you that. >> did a recent caller to my radio program give insight into a 2020 candidacy? many of you tweeted asking if i had be cancelled or fired.

the answer is no. i was just busy dancing. and i'll explain. but first, wednesday's attempted massacre of republican members of congress was horrific. paul ryan was right to say it was an attack on all members of congress, the shooter was motivated by hatred of the president and his party, seems incontrovertible, nor that it comes in context of a poisonous political climate that's been building for years. sadly many now are being selective in condemnation of instability by focusing only on the left or only on the right, and that's a tell. nose who single out only one extreme are themselves part of the problem. there's plenty of bad behavior to go around and it has been this way for far too long. i have often spoken and written about the disrespect that president obama faced for all 8 years. here's just one column i wrote,

2012. in that piece i noted, quote, it's been unrelenting, the day after obama took office, rush limbaugh told sean hannity he wanted him to fail. later glenn beck called the president a racist with deep seeded hatred of white people. donald trump's birtherism took hold, and words like socialist uttered with increased frequency. now already on his watch, president trump has faced criticism that has been over the top, which i have also noted. the kathy griffin isis style pose with trump's decapitated head was disgusting, and cnn was right to fire her, as well as os lof who called trump a piece of excrement. in a commentary i delivered may 6th, i even took issue with stephen colbert telling an oral sex joke about trump and putin. i said in tolerance has a way of catching up with you politically. in a play in central park, showing execution of a trump figure, i said that, too, is

over the top. all sides need to agree the climate has been calamitous and words have consequences. many said on wednesday that the baseball field shooting will be a game changer, no pun intended. that would be nice, but pardon my pessimism. six years ago congresswoman gabrielle giffords was shot outside a safe way in arizona, and similar sentiments were said, but nothing changed. that's partly due to the fact there are many factors driving our discourse. institutional factors that need fixing or nothing will change. sure, it begins with the politicians, but the way we select those individuals limits the candidate pool. the role of dark money, closed primaries, gerrymandering, self sorting, and outsided role of media personalities rewarded for bomb bas, not substance. their livelihoods depend on foe meanting division, not diplomacy. don't come looking to them to lead. while we seek to reign in the

extremists, we must be careful not to sometimy legitimate inquiry and debate. it came on the same day as "the washington post" breaking the news the president is under investigation by special counsel robert mueller for possible obstruction of justice, and president trump seemed to confirm that himself with a tweet. that revelation should not have surprised anyone who's been paying attention. i immediately tweeted the following. this is no surprise. potus fired the person conducting investigation into possible collusion by his campaign. in light of jim comey's testimony that he believed he was being directed by the president to drop the probe of michael flynn, mueller would be derelict in his duty not to look at the president's behavior. according to sworn testimony of the former fbi director, the president sought a loyalty commitment, excused the vice president and attorney general from the oval office before asking comey to let go of the flynn probe, fired him after he didn't drop it, and boasted that

he relieved pressure. that's all worthy of impartial investigation which should not be lost in the grief over the wednesday shooting. white house counsel to president ronald reagan wrote this piece for "the wall street journal." comey closes the case almost which says the president cannot be guilty of obstruction of justice unless he attempts to obstruct an investigation of himself as in watergate. if the president should now fire rosenstein, is that obstruction of justice? >> we don't have any idea whether the president would fire rosenstein, what the president said, didn't indicate he would fire rosenstein. this is just a lot of useless speculation at this point. and whether he fired rosenstein, if he did, would be obstruction.

if it is found the president ultimately committed some kind of crime. thus far there's no indication that the president has committed any crime. you link together in your lead in a whole lot of things that didn't indicate anything serious about the president's activity, at least criminal activity. >> then let's go there. let's go to the time line. i think the time line is telling. i want to make clear to you and the audience, i am not here to argue for or against the case for obstruction of justice. i want to understand potential elements. here's the chronology. january 27 one-on-one meeting with fbi director comey where the president seeks a loyalty pledge. the only loyalty comey owed was to united states constitution, right? wasn't that in error by the president? >> no, it was an error of protocol perhaps because there

has grown up the idea that many officials of the government of executive branch are somehow independent of the president, but no. the executive branch of the united states would not function if people in the executive branch were not loyal to the president because he relies on them to carry out his orders and to provide information to him that he needs to execute his duties. so there was nothing unusual about his request for loyalty. also this whole flynn thing that you link together doesn't make a lot of sense to me. he did ask about flynn and he probably shouldn't have asked about flynn but he did. and he only asked once. and he didn't say i want you to stop the investigation of flynn, he said i hope you can see your way clear to end this thing. this is not a direction from the president to the fbi director,

and the fbi director taking it as a direction was wrong. very little to say about flynn. >> this is february 14. go back to the chronology. this is the valentine's day meeting where you know the president apparently asks the vice president, mike pence, and the attorney general to leave the oval office. that sounds nefarious to some. then says i hope you can let go of the flynn probe which comey himself testified he took as a directive. look, if i say i hope i don't have to break your legs, i mean, that can have a connotation of criminality, no? >> sure, it could, if you try to make it that, but there's nothing criminal or even suspicious about that. he wanted to talk to comey privately because he had some feeling for flynn. he didn't say i want you to stop investigation of flynn, he said

i hope you can see your way clear to do that. then as i said before, he never mentioned it again. he had many other conversations with comey after that, but he never talked about this issue again so it wasn't something that he really had on the top of his mind. what he had on the top of his mind in talking to comey was the fact that comey had said on march 20 that the campaign of the president was under investigation by the fbi for collusion with russia, but the president was not a target. he had never said that. he left that open as though the president was a target. trump obviously -- may i finish, first. >> sure. >> trump obviously thinks that there was nothing in this charge of collusion, so after the fbi director tells congress his

campaign, the president's campaign is under investigation, he should have said but the president is not a target. the president then asked him after he made that statement to congress about investigating the campaign, the president said can you say as you told me that i am not a target and comey wouldn't do that. i think that's why the president fired him. >> put the chronology on the screen, let me provide a contrarian interpretation. goes like this. january 27 he seeks a loyalty oath from comey and doesn't get it. on the 14th. >> he did not ask for a loyalty oath. he did not ask for a loyalty oath. >> he told him he needed his loyalty. that's what jim comey said, that's what his memo will substantiate. >> that's not a loyalty oath. >> hold on. i promise you i am all about dialogue. you'll be able to respond. the 27th he seeks loyalty.

the 14th says i hope you can let go of flynn. apparently thereafter he asks the intel heads, coats and rogers, if they can lift the cloud. you say he only brought up flynn one time, never brought it up again to which i respond he didn't bring it up again, he fired comey on the 9th. on the 10th he said i got rid of the nut job, i did it to relieve pressure, sounds like he did it to relieve pressure of the investigation. is that not in total a colorable case for obstruction of justice? please respond. >> no. i will respond by saying no, it is not a colorable case for obstruction of justice. it is a linking together of a whole lot of unrelated events that are not desirable to have, to present to the public in the way you are, but it happens to be true. and trump unfortunately gets in his way, his own way many times

by saying things that presidents normally don't say, but this does not make any case of obstruction of justice, at least in my view, and the idea that you would say that the president of the united states committed obstruction of justice and in that way start a procedure in congress which would be impeachment procedure that would further interfere with his doing his job and perhaps even overturn results of an election, on the basis of these very weak evidential points is incredible to me and i don't think would ever happen. it is inconceivable. >> thank you for being here. i didn't just say he committed obstruction of justice, i assembled potential elements of such claim and frankly am relying on a former fbi director. not as if i directed them out of

cold cloth. tweet me @smerconish, i will read some through the course of the program. what do we have, katherine? smerconish, sounds like you're going super soft on trump. really? i just laid out a time line of what potentially, potentially is a claim for obstruction of justice and i'm going super soft on trump. i'm not going super soft on anybody and not carrying anybody's water either. one more or going on? tell me what we've got. don't you compare trump's backlash to obama's. don't you dare. see, you're doing what i am condemning, that's a tell, not of my bias, put the camera back on me, this is important. that's a tell not of my bias but of your bias. anybody who in this climate is looking only left or only right is part of the problem.

i laid out in my opening commentary a whole sequence of factual events that have taken place in the last 8 years and are now continuing on this president's watch, which i think are despicable and have driven national discourse right into a ditch. up next, nbc's megyn kelly has the tables turned on her by her guest tomorrow night, alex jones who secretly recorded their interactions. who will be left standing in the battle of old versus new media. wrinkles? your time is up! new neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair with the proven power of retinol. reduces wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®

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to many, jones is dangerous and a faker. among several conspiracies jones promoted on his program is the possibility that the 2012 sandy hook massacre, killing of 20 young children and six adults, was a staged hoax. >> sandy hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors in my view manufactured. this is illegitimate drill governme government. >> this is everything i say about men with microphone who enjoy outside influence in the political debate. in child custody court case, wife tried to show he was unstable citing on air statements, his lawyer claiming his on air persona was a character like jack nicholson playing joker in batman, he is a performance artist. he immediately made videos of his own, trying to counteract that claim.

>> then they go oh, he says he's fake. alex says he's fake, he didn't mean that. whatever. i'm about free market, cutting taxes, i 110 believe in honest tee, we are changing the world. we're the most bona fide, real mccoy thing there is. >> many expressed outrage over appearance on a network show on father's day of all days. president of media matters which spearheaded o'reilly and hannity protests told me he was troubled by this promotional photograph of kelly and jones riding in his car wearing weird sunglasses saying it served to normalize and validate jones. jpmorgan chase pulled ads from nbc news, chief marketing officer said i am appalled megyn kelly was give air time to someone that says sandy hook and ro are hoaxes, why? nbc aired this promo in which

kelly challenges him on sandy hook. >> when you say parents faked their children's death, people get very angry. >> oh, i know, but don't get million about the half million in sanctions. >> that's a dodge. >> it is not a dodge. the media never covers the evil wars promote. >> doesn't excuse what you did and said about new town. >> i looked at all of the angles and i made my statements long before the media even picked up on it. >> after it aired, jones revealed that theory how he might be be portrayed, he taped all their interactions, lived in texas where taping phone conversations is legal if one party knows about it. in video released friday, kelly heard repeatedly saying she is not out to do a hatchet job. listen to this. >> i'll ask you about some of the controversies of course and you'll say whatever you want to

say, but it is not going to be some gotcha hit piece. i promise you that. all i can do is give you my word, if there's one thing about me, i do what i say i'm going to do and i don't double cross. >> given the reach he already has, the way to deal with jones in my opinion is not to ignore him, it is for someone of kelly's stature to expose him with factual information at odds with his outlandish viewpoints. but did she? joining me, charlie wore zell, covering all this, including his latest alex jones scoops megyn kelly, proves the media isn't ready for trolls. charlie, has he already won? >> i think it is safe to say that he has been in control of this saga, this media circus since the moment that megyn kelly at nbc announced that alex jones was the first to announce it, first to tweet photos of kelly and himself in austin,

texas. basically other than nbc airing this promo, he has been sort of a step ahead, sort of setting the narrative. i think as it stands now, we've had a week of just crazy controversy. it's been very difficult i think on nbc and on kelly. so i would say at this point he has won a little bit. >> i debated this on my radio program earlier this week with the audience. i am of the viewpoint, tell me if you think i'm wrong, i am of the viewpoint you do an interview like this but you've got to be on top of your game, you've got to do your homework. you can't give an inch. but i don't like the idea of ignoring him, saying we're not going to touch that kind of subject matter, i don't think that's the right answer. how do you see it? >> i think that's correct and i think especially when you're dealing with this, what i'm calling pro-trump media, the apparatus that is online and terrestrial radio that is sort

of vehemently working to push trump's agenda. when you're dealing with this group, you can't sort of use the old media way of being a bee keeper, saying these people don't matter, we will push them to the side, you never hear from them, there's no problem. that assumes they don't have a platform. alex jones has a very influential platform. there's that argument that's incredibly valid holding them to account is going to help educate people. >> that's the point to me which is to say whose ear and eyes does he command? you can't just write him off as being a guy who is off the grid. you've got to take into consideration he has an audience, the audience is growing, and he captured the attention of the commander in chief. that's what this is really about, i would think. i also have to believe in the last 48 hours, there's probably a lot of reediting taking place at 30 rock to get ready for the

airing of this. >> absolutely. i think that reediting plays into the pro-trump media, how extreme is the narrative that this wasn't fair from the get go, or that kelly says one thing when the microphone are off and another when it's on and that there's sort of this air of disingenuousness. jones is disingenuous the entire time, but he is able to have those dirty tricks, he is new media. traditional old school stuffy media should be held to a higher standard. but i think this is really just an example of as you said not doing your homework. nbc could have done the research on jones, understood how this interview could go off the rails, structure it the right way. >> you did a profile, interviewed 25 or 30 folks that work for him or had worked for

him, you came away impressed with the profound impact he had on the campaign. >> absolutely. and i think a lot of people don't realize this but many of his old former employees, associates, told me that he doesn't just have listeners or audience members, he has followers. it is very much like a religious leader, preacher, someone who what they say, there's so much trust. a lot of people according to these sources that i talk to said that, you know, they heard that a lot of people who watched jones voted for the first time in this election, not just because they're young but because they're anti-government, jones is very anti-government in the past, but he got behind trump in this way and with this enthusiasm, and i think if you went to his rallies, you saw the info wars hillary for prison shirt, it was almost ubiquitous.

i think there's a real impact, people hinge on those words. so i think it is really important to take alex seriously but also to interrogate him. >> my final thought. i want the same thing the sandy hook parents want. i want him to be exposed for the fraud that i believe that he is. the question is, do you get there by engaging him or ignoring him. my argument is by engaging him as long as you come to play, meaning megyn kelly. i guess we're going to find out whether that was the case. charlie, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. let's check in with twitter and facebook. katherine, what have you got? smerconish, lighten up. it is just alex jones. it's a show. no. no, no. there's too much con inflation going on in the country between news and entertainment. it may be an entertainment show but when your fodder is the execution of 26 people, 20 of them kids, and you use that for

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to the judge is what is reasonable doubt? the defense for the 79-year-old comedian rested after speaking only six minutes. thursday, jurors told the court they could not come to unanimous decision which is required in a criminal case. the judge asked they go back into deliberations. when i interviewed cosby a month ago in his first public remarks in over two years, he told me he had no intention of testifying in his own behalf and he didn't. >> don't you want to testify and tell your story? >> no. >> why not. >> when you have to deal with examination, cross examination, et cetera, et cetera, more than two sides to every story. sometimes it's four or five. >> in the months before the trial, dozens of women surfaced with similar accusations, so was the case too hard to prosecute as the original d.a. contended? and will jurors reach a new verdict? if not, will prosecutors pursue

retrial? joining me, victoria valentino who alleged that cosby sexual assaulted her in los angeles in 1969 and who attended all of the trial. danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and cnn legal analyst. danny, let's read the tea leaves. this jury not only deliberated a long time, they asked a lot of questions. i made reference a moment ago to asking a question about what is reasonable doubt which to me suggested that they've analyzed all of the evidence, now they were zeroing in on the final phase. and then a slew of new questions were asked which went back into the testimony itself, and they've essentially reaired everything. how do you read that? >> just like you said, it is tea leaves, astrology, but one thing that could be happening is the majority of jurors trying to convince a minority of jurors, and that's why reading back reasonable doubt, and maybe by war of attrition, simply reading

through all of the testimony and all of this evidence, trying to convince any hold out jurors irrespective of which way they're going, and of course the defense raised the very real concern we may now be getting into the area of coercion. and that's why they moved several times for mistrials at this point. >> it seems like lawyers believed the prosecution has the upper hand because as you point out, defense attorneys have been asking for a mistrial and the production seems content that maybe this is inching their direction. is that how you see it? >> yes, but just like me, the defense and prosecution are ultimately guessing. how ironic if ultimately it turns out they're advocating based on the reverse belief, that they're actually advocating against themselves, maybe the jury is leaning their way instead of what they think right

now. there's no way to know. but in this case if you just go with the general belief that maybe a longer deliberating jury isn't so good for a defendant, then yeah, if you are playing the odds, the defense is making the right move. they're also making strategic decision that mistrial may be more beneficial and i would expect if there is a mistrial, or i'm sorry, if there's ultimately a verdict, the defense will absolutely attack that on appeal based on any coercion of this jury because as you said, the deliberation now has lasted longer than the trial, which is not a hard and fast rule, but it is a factor to consider. >> victoria, danny and i are on the outside looking in. you've been there with some skin in the game. i mean, every day for this testimony. >> that's right. >> what has it been like for you? >> well, obviously it's been a roller coaster of emotions, we're all upset, crying this morning, laughing in the

afternoon, doing the victory dance in anticipation and then feeling dejected and frustrated, tired. everybody is burned out. it has been intense. you know, yesterday when we were called into the courtroom, the defense was trying to appeal for another mistrial. the judge was very clear that he was denying mistrial because the jury was really working hard and they were committed. and so he denied it. and i think the reason the defense is trying so hard to get a mistrial is based on the fact that they're feeling like, you know, they're on shaky ground. i feel the majority, this is my own opinion and this is pure speculation, but my gut is telling me that the majority of the jurors are in favor of guilty verdict and there are one or two holdouts.

>> what has been for you the most striking moment of the trial? >> well, you know, there have been so many really poignant moments and beautiful moments. i think the most incredible moment for me, aside from seeing andrea's simple testimony, she was so authentic, so -- she just answered simply, truthfully, to the point. and of course all of us sister survivors knew she was telling the truth because we have been there, but her mother, her mother, when her mother was -- we all want a mother like that. her mother was a fierce momma bear, didn't take any prisoners, you know, and so when agrusa was harassing her about every detail, every phone record, she said why are you testing my memory for these irrelevant details. you could feel even the judge going yeah, baby.

and well, he had to say mrs. constand, just answer the question. but we felt this psychic yeah from everybody. well, except the defense, of course. >> if the case ends in something other than a conviction, in a mistrial or an acquittal, will this have been worth it? >> absolutely. and that's because the conversation is now open about what a woman's worth is in today's society. it's about rape culture. and what are we going to do about it. since we went public, we gave courage and permission and conviction to other rape survivors to also find their voice and speak out, and they've come to us not just other cosby survivors, and we've had a plethora of private messages on facebook saying hey, i, too, was

raped, drugged and raped by cosby. but there were a million other people who came out, men and women, saying you know, my father took my virgin tee, my father raped me, my uncle raped me, the local cop, the minister, the teacher. i had 8 abortions from my high school teacher and he's still out there teaching. my statute of limitations was up. all of these things. we have changed law in california because of this. we formed a coalition last year to abolish the ten year statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault in california. we lobbied, we testified before the senate committee on public safety. we did press conferences, rallied on the state capitol. we rallied on the cosby star on hollywood boulevard. and you know how many people

supported us? we changed a law. >> victoria, thank you for being here. danny is he val oh, bye for now. let me check in with facebook and twitter, see what you're saying. hit me with something. this was not the best case to use but the statute of limitations seems to make it the only one viable. if judge forces decision, will it be appealed? debra, the only thing a certainty is that however it ends, there will be an appeal. still ahead. joe biden speaks at a florida democratic fund-raiser. is it another sign estesing waters for 2020. i got an answer from one caller to my radio program referring to himself as frank from palm beach. find out who he is next. and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you

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you know when i wasn't here last saturday i was touched to see how many viewers were tweeting concerned messages like what happened, where's the show and i'm trying to tune in for my saturday enjoyment on cnn, where are you? well, thanks for your concern although as i said, there were several who worried or maybe hoped that i had been fired, to whom i say not yet. mine was an excused absence.

our daughter was being married. one of our guests shot some video of my -- there's the bride and groom -- of my dance with the bride set to the grateful dead's scarlet begonias. what else do you dance to at your daughter's wedding? i posted it on facebook op monday. it became my most viewed video ever. f 50,000 views. check it out. not so bad, right? i asked facebook followers who says dad has no moves? i got lots of feedback including this most popular reply from john nicholson, sorry, i love you and all but you're very white. you dance like i do. your daughter, however, has some moves going on. congratulations on the big day. i conceded that point. i also liked this tweet. the real question for you is which side of the aisle were you on? left or right?

well, let me tell you that for once i didn't sit in the middle. i sat on the bride's side. what have we got? smerconish, alex jones is not right wing. he's a nut case. don't slander us on the right with that misrepresentation. hey, coach dodson, point well taken. you're right. you know, he's off the grid. i'm not going to hold anybody over there accountable for him. what else? as much as we love joe biden, he will be too old. the ds need young dynamic candidates. bunny hop? i don't know. age is a relative thing. we have to wait and see. president trump, people forget, was the longest, fact check me on this, the oldest we had ever elected. age doesn't seem the consideration that it once was. give me something else. smerconish, obstruction of

justice, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. larry, look, i'll tell you this. you heard and you saw the chronology i put up on the screen. the only thing i can tell you, i can't tell you that it's obstruction of justice. i can tell you it's not a witch hunt. i can tell you that there are enough elements to this and in light of the fact it's the former fbi director because credibility has to matter, that it's worthy of pursuit. that's as far as i have taken it. by the way, on my facebook page, i recorded a defense of president trump. you should watch that. i lay out the defense that donald trump or someone in his behalf ought to be offering and many have misinterpreted it as me providing a defense i believe in. no. that was me as an intellectual exercise saying there's a defense to this and here's how the president could spin it. one more, very quick, if you can. smerconish, the judge in the

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