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it's just seconds before 5:00 a.m. it is daybreak in london. most people, perhaps, have not woken up to this news yet and they'll be doing so very shortly, indeed. this is cnn, breaking news. >> and we continue our breaking news coverage of the incident in london. >> i'm rosemary church. a van hit pedestrians in the london. london police say one person has died. at least people are wounded. counter terrorism command is in investigating this incident. two witnesses say they saw three men leave that van. they say police arrested one and the other two fled. police won't say whether they're seeking other suspects at this hour. >> this neighborhood is set to have a large muslim population. the mosques had links to the radical cle radical clericist. worshippers were hit as they left the mosque.
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one witness described what she saw. >> what happens is that, usually, some of the muslims when they finish their prayer in the mosque that they just gather in the corner to talk for a bit and i'm guessing, i'm not sure, but i'm guessing now because it is a ram of them, there was maybe more of them until a little bit later. so, i'm guessing, that maybe they were the victims because they were desperate. i saw so many of them crying, screaming, trying to get police, so i'm guessing that if someone run over people in a corner maybe they were there. >> so the people that you saw crying and trying to get police attention, they appeared to be muslim because they were wearing muslim garb or how could you tell?
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>> yes. i don't know the name of that, but, yes. some kind of people in there, mostly them. because i'm so use to seeing them there every day, i'm assuming that maybe there are some muslims between the victims i saw on the floor. >> witness speaking to cnn just moments after the incident. ian, we're getting important information, at last, from the london police and they are now -- they're telling us tht counter ter -- that the counter terrorism command is leading the investigation. that tells us something as how how they view that. >> reporter: that's something we've been hearing from people, eyewitnesss from the very beginning, that these people say that this was a deliberate attack against these people and muslims. people here have been call thg aterrorist attack -- have been calling this a terrorist attack, even though the police have said
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they're investigating this people. you have eight people injured, one person killed in this incident and from eyewitnesss they were telling us that this van deliberately hit these people. i spoke with a one man who had told me what happened after that van hit the people, take a listen. >> hit the van. we saw a driver who was trying to scream. he's using by force, pushing the people, the people over powered him and they keep on the ground. and the people who were injured on the ground. it was eight people and some of them was serious bleeding of the head. the van drove into the site,
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into it. i don't know why the driver, he looked this way and the road just enough to drive and what is turned left, is not a road, it's about for parking and space. >> reporter: does it look like the driver was deliberately? >> no doubt. no question. i believe that was deliberately. >> that is going to be one of the questions that police are going to ask the driver now in question, a 48-year-old man, we are told, is why he carried out the attack. this is something, though, we've seen that's different from previous incidents like this, previous attacks, terrorist attacks here in london is that the perpetrators are usually killed at the scene. they were able to apprehend this man. they'll be able to question him. other thing that we've been hearing about is that there
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could have been multiple people in the van at the time. there could have been two people, another person told me, eyewitness told me that there could have been up to three people in the van at the time the police aren't saying anything about that, whether they are looking for -- whether there were other people in the van but that's going to be another crucial thing going forward. was this one person carrying out what soort of looks like to be an attack at this time. or there other people involved? >> that is the point. we're watching, very carefully, across this coming out from authorities, very carefully worded. one man was killed at the scene. eight people were injured and taken to hospital as you pointed out there. 48-year-old man taken into custody. he would have been questioned now for some hours. but police are not saying out right that this was terrorism. but, of course, the indication here when they're saying the investigation now under the
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control of counter terrorism command is very telling, indeed, isn't it? >> reporter: that's right. for the police when it comes to incidents like this, they want to be accurate. that's the most important thing for them, to get information out there to the public, but also to be accurate and not put out something that they'll later have to retract. that's probably why we're seeing this slow flow of information since the aftermath, even though they have this man in custody that they're able to talk to him, able to ask him questions, they are very careful and deliberate about putting out information what they have it confirmed, but, you know, this is a community that is really feeling this latest incident. when i spoke with a man just recently, i asked him, i said, what are you going to do going forward, what does this mean for the community? this is a man at the mosque, he would do the call to prayer, he talked to the people. he said -- they said, being more
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vigilant. they have to be more vigilant. they don't believe that the police were providing enough protection for this mosque, for the community, although this is a police force that has been stretched quite tight because of attacks happening at different places. but going forward, though, the one thing they did stress though is that the city needs to remain unified. >> rosemary. ian lee near the scene there bringing us up to date on events on this incident and talking to a number of eyewitnesss. many thanks to you, we'll come back to you very soon. phil black spoke with a witness earlier. >> reporter: you were in the area, i understand, when you heard seasoning that happened you ran towards the scene, please describe what you saw. >> i was sitting with my friends just two minutes away from there. we were sitting at the coffee shop. e of my man said what's going on, he said look there's an incident in front of the
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mosques, there's some van, big van crashing the people in the mosques. we're just one stretch away and i seen lots of -- i see police, ambulance, people lying on the floor, and a van, as well. >> how many people did you see who were hurt by this? >> about eight to ten people i think the ambulance they take and i seen two people, as well, running away from the van. >> reporter: you saw two people running from the area? >> from the van. there was three people in the van. one was being arrested and two people run away. >> reporter: did you see the man who had been held and detained by people? >> yeah, i did, yes. >> reporter: do you know -- was he detained just by people who saw this unfold, it wasn't by police, is that right, by bystander? >> that's right. >> reporter: it must have been a
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terrible thing to see, here in your community near a mosque where you pray. >> yesterday we were praying for unity because what's happened in the greenfield tower is very sad things, people they lost their life and people like, you know, it's a sad thing what's happening. and the leader of the consulate, the leader of the mosque and we were -- a lot of the people in the mosque praying for unity, praying for the people which lost in the greenfield tower, prayer for the one to be killed. we're looking for peace. we're looking for unity. we don't want people to divide us. this is our message to everybody. >> you worried that your community has been deliberately targeted here tonight. >> i can't say they are targeted, the community.
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i can say like these attack is like crimin, this attack on people. it dsn't mter who you are, muslim or christian. these are criminal people. they do these things to anybody. these people have mental problem. because nobody like in their right mind have to come and jump or killing people because we see this one before like a few weeks ago, one month ago in london, like scared, worried about it. and now we see it again. we don't know yet. we can't say who has done it why it's been done. what is the things behind it. nobody knows yet the truth, you know. >> this is true, we don't know. we can't stress that enough, the police have not said why, why this has happened tonight, what the motivation was, who did
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this. but i've been speaking to people here tonight about the event. and they are -- they are sad and angry that this has happened to them outside their mosque. i imagine you can understand why that's the case. >> yes, i think this area, especially this area, is full of, you can say, it's a muslim majority in this area. lots of people here like from our country. and lots of people, as well, from somalia. very strong muslim community, this area. and what's happening today i think it's the people must be extremely, extremely sad and the people here are very concerned like they say, this is terror attack. it's not actually accident or incident. and the people, they want to see the media report the truth because now i think people they
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say, when something happening to the muslim people like the media, it's not reported, but. >>t's theelationship between the communit between the muslim community, the other minority. the black community, the other minority community, this can efl effect them, you know. >> we have to make sure that doesn't happen, right? >> hopefully, we pray for like unity and we pray for people because these people they try to separate the community. they try to make a division, you know -- hate us. i don't think they'll succeed because we're pure. we feel like, yes, this is might happen, but we're still looking for peace, we're looking for unity. we're looking for -- because
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we're all looking for unity, looking for peace. because all religions, of course there are -- looking for peace. >> thank you very much for sharing. we're very grateful. >> thank you. >> good luck to you. >> talking to an eyewitness there. phil black joins us now live again from the scene. phil, what more are you learning now. >> you heard they'll talk about the belief that there was more than one person into the vehicle that was involved in this incident. he talked about two men running away. we've heard those accounts from various people. crucially the police in their most recent statement to us which was only a short time ago. no one has reported the
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possibility of further suspects to them they're holding one man in custody while he's in the hospital at the moment as precaution and he'll be taken into police custody as soon as he's been checked and deemed to be healthy and discharged. there is that inconsistency. what we know now is that at least one person has been killed, eight injured seriously enough to be taken to hospital. >> we'll wait for authorities to shed more light. joining us. we'll come back to you in a moment. cnn global affairs analyst. he joins us from new york. david, crucially in its latest statement the london metropolitan police the unit that's investigating the counter terrorism unit, that says a lot. >> this appears to be a terrorist attack.
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the sooner, that's the most important thing. you're hearing this in interviews with people, that there's a real concern that this won't be labeled a terrorist attack. you know, it's a general sense among muslims here in the united states that attacks on them are taken less seriously, the lives are valued. >> david, explain to us, the process that authorities go there -- go through in confirming whether or not an incident like this is in fact a terrorist attack. what is the criteria. they're skouerring and seeing any statements he made that would show motivation for this. there was a mention. i don't have any extra details here, as i mentioned that they were -- the attacker was in custody at the hospital. that could be slowing down their
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efforts to interrogate so the british police are very careful, they're much again you can hear the concern, you know, in the community there about, you know, why isn't this building called a terrorist attack yet. >> we're basing it on the police statement saying the counter terrorist unit is investigating. how do you connect the dots between the tee prior aacks in london in the uk to which who were in london, one was in manchester, how do you connect the dots between that and this. >> my working definition of terrorism is using particularly violence against civilians to achieve some kind of political goal. that's very true in all four attacks. these are completely innocent victims, you know, attacking
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unarmed people for no reason whatsoever. it's completely unjustifiable. you know, this is terrorism. it doesn't matter who the victim is using violence, terrorizing civilians is completely unacceptable that applies in all four of these attacks. analysts joining us there, no doubt we'll talk you again very soon. many thanks. >> officials are reacting to use of online statements. the emergency services are on the scene and investigating of major incident of the park, foll followed. >> later, jeremy wrote this. i am totally shocked that the incident park tonight. >> no doubt. we'll have more reaction as they start to wake up. it's only about 20 minutes past 5:00 a.m. local time in london. we'll have more on this breaking news in just a moment. stay with us. (vo) my name is bryan.
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viewers breaking news we're following out of london. one person has died and the counter terrorism command is investigating, at least, eight other people wounded. police are treating this as potential terror attack. one person was arrested but won't say if they're seeking other suspects. >> the incident took place near a mosque. the muslim council of britain tweeted it was informed that a van ran over people as they were leaving that mosque. witnesses tell cnn that three men exited the van. one of the men was arrested by the crowd that handed them over to law enforcement. the other two, according to witnesses, ran away. the metropolitan police spokesman tells cnn it's too early to say if this is a terror incident. just a reminder moments ago the british prime minister said this is being treated as potential ser ror incident. let's bring in cnn contributor
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to get. steve, we're hearing from the prime minister of britain. she's saying the police are treating this as a potential terror attack. >> yeah. this is -- as we discussed about an hour ago -- this is the fact that they haven't said anything to the public say pg thing that not a terrorist attack. all the information leads that it's possibly terrorist attack. they're not willing to put all the weight down on it yes. >> what is law enforcement doing right now. we know that the person that was driving the van or one of the people, again, eyewitnesss say they saw several, is a 48-year-old male that he was taken to the hospital and that he will be taken into custody. >> they are creating a world's
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biography on him that you can imagine. they're going into every single thing about him from his parents to the people he hung around with to his web site or web presence, to social media, anything about him that they can come up with, they are going to locate immediately and that includes associates, friends and like minded people who might have been involved or sympathetic to what he did. >> as we mentioned shs tthe pri minister of britain. she has also indicated that she will share a cobra meeting this morni morning. on the london bridge, this has been a particularly difficult time for britain and certainly theresa may feeling an incredibly amount of pressure at
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this time. >> you've got terrorist attack against -- and now you have potential retaliation. here is the problem, isis and international terrorist groups want to destabilize governments. their goal is an arky and if they can't get an archy they at least want a war between iz limb and what isis will call infadel. whoever did this, if this is an attack on muslims because of the isis inspired attacks, then they have played right into isis's hands. >> steve, are mosques going to need reinforced security?
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>> yes. for years in america and around the world, temples, jewish temples have needed security like this. in america, even christian churches are getting security and sadly now mosques are going to have to do the same thing. >> steve, cnn law enforcement contributor, thank you very much. >> we'll be back with breaking news coverage in just a moment.
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authorities are saying that a vehicle hit pedestrians ortly after midnight local time. is happened in an area at the park. one person died on the scene and at least eight others were injured. british prime minister said that authorities are treating the incident as potential terrorist attack. police were call today the incident on the road right after midnight local time. officials say the van's driver was arrested but they won't say if they're seeking other suspects. >> they say cnn three men got out of the van, one of them was taken into custody and the other
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two. the muslim council of britain tweeted it had been informed that a van ran over people as they were leaving the mosque. let's go now to ian lee. he's still at the scene there. i know you've had an opportunity to talk to many different people, eyewitness reports there, what are people telling you now that we're learning from prime minister theresa may that police are treating this as a potential terror attack. >> rosemary, that's something we've heard all night from people various eyewitnesss every single one that this was deliberate. they don't believe that this could have been an accident to any way just to go through the series of events from what eyewitnesss told me is that it started with an elderly man who felt ill and he collapsed. that's when gathered around to
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help this man. and that's when the van hit into this crowd of people. about five hours ago. they say the driver tried to flee the scene, they were able to apprehend him. they say he struggled of trying to get away. a number of yeyewitnesss have said there were other people in the van. one saying one person and another saying three people in the van. that's something that police are going to looking into. although they say right now they're not confirming or denying that there were other people in the van. i think they're very careful when it comes to releasing information about this incident. once that driver was apprehended, they were able to hand him over to the police we're told that he's at a hospital now just as a precautionary measure. once he's released he will be
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taken into custody. one witness was telling me how they had to drag someone from other beneath the van as he was stuck and trapped in there. what you're seeing behind him is what we've been seeing all night the last few hours you have the police here. they've been thorough in their investigation just giving out little bits of information, but we now know that this is being investigated by the counter terrorism command. it looks like it's beginning to be treated more like a terrorist attack, that is something that we've heard from people all night, they say, that this was a terrorist attack. these were a group of muslims who were targeted because they were muslims, again, that's what these eyewitnesss were saying, rose mary. >> that seems to be the signs
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we're getting from authorities. ian lee reporting live from the scene, we'll come back to you very soon. >> i read the statement that the council will put up a short while ago. he used the word to describe the context in which this took place. >> in the uk, it's getting it. but we have -- it's about two miles from where i live and i pray the last few days ago. the reports are that it is deliberate attack and it's true. >> yes, and that use to be what prime minister theresa may has indicated is saying that the
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police are looking at this potential terrorist attack. it has been some time. but they indicated and of course they have to be very careful in the aftermath of an incident like this, talk to us about your concerns going forward if, indeed, this is confirmed to be this, which seems to be all the indications now that the counter terrorism command is investigating this. . i think from it and many in the evening which runs into midnight and often after midnight. and so targeting them is easy. they're also mosques at least 1,500 or so across the country and people will be going into it in a few days time. .
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they're targeting mosques, for example. it can happen repercussion. for the safety abdomnd security >> what message are you putting out telling them we heard some of the eyewitnesss speaking to our reporters on the ground that they were afraid and they were following different guidelines as of now or recently they shouldn't go out alone or as group. they could have each other's backs, what guidelines or guidance, if any, are you giving to the muslim community. >> it's a difficult one. no terrorist of any kind should be able to change our life in a way that we become constraint and frightened. we should be going about our daily live defying these kind of lunatics. at the same time we need to be vigilant. especially, mosques, i think they have to be a lot more vigilant and revisit but
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tomorrow it could be another mosques that may be subject. so i don't think anyone can. we need to be vigilant. what we're going about on your own at times when it may not be safe to do so. >> it certainly is critical that people are vigilant at this time. but talk to us about the level of security and indeed across britain and what it could mean if you increase security, would that be a consideration at this point. >> well, i think -- it's at
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large. they have a good security system in place. they neither have the capacity or resources to ensure very strong security. >> the other thing to consider, is whether the law enforcement agency is giving to mosques and security. we're going to see that they're stepping up their -- in an effort to reassure mosque leaders and muslim communities that there was sufficient officers on it and also that they're prioritizing this. >> are you saying you're calling on the government to put law enforcement in front of mosque across the uk. >> i think that will be it. but i think, certainly, for
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welcome back to our viewers from all the around the world.
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we want to bring you up to date on the breaking news we're covering. a van has hit pedestrians in northern london. one man died at the scene and at least eig other people were injured. theresa may say police are treating this incident as a potential terrorist attack. and we have also heard from two witnesses who say three men got out of that van. they say one of them was taken into custody and the other two fled the scene. london police won't confirm if they're looking for suspects at this time, but they believe they have arrested the driver of that van. >> and police were called to the scene just after midnight local time. now, this happened near the park mosques. we have it confirmed that worshippers were deliberately targeted. council of britain said on twitter, we've been informed that a van has ran over worshippers as they left. their prayers are would you say. >> earlier colleague spoke with hillary who was on the street and witnessed the aftermath of
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the incident. >> i can see from my window so aran down and joined what was happening. . their ear to and in had collided with people who are exiting. there was a lot of commotion going on. there was a white van it was going around it and shouting at the man. . it hit everybody. they're pushing for all of us back. i didn't too much closer. everybody has been pushed ba.
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i'm told this is an act of terror. >> let me stop you for just a moment, hillary. i'm having a little bit of a hard time hearing you. i want to make sure i understand what you just said. did you hear people shouting that they believe this was an act of terror. and people were shoutding it was an act of terrorism, even though he's white and these are the comments all these people were yelling out. people saying, very agitated and trying to get close to the attack. this is an act of terror. the police were they were saying we can't get it for you at the moment. people have been injured.
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so we can get emergency services through, push it back up until. so i went back which is watching things unfold from the side. >> hillary, did you see the person who may have been involved in this incident? who may have been driving the vehicle? >> no, i've seen the vehicle and i saw a lot of people crowding around somebody that i could not see right there. there were lots of people and i didn't want to get too close you never know what can happen next. but i -- it was a white van. it was outside, yes, a white van. >> talking, we'll take a short break here, but on the other
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side of that break, we'll continuing with that breaking news on this van hitting pedestrians in north london, police saying one man has died at the scene, at least other people were injured, we're back.
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news we're following out of north london. authorities say a vehicle hit pedestrians. one person has died and at least eight others are injured. british prime minister theresa may says police are treating the incident as a potential terrorist attack and she will shortly chair an emergency meeting on the incident. police say they were called to the scene on seven sisters road right after midnight local time. officials say the vehicle's driver was arrested but won't say if they're seeking other suspects. >> witnesses tell cnn three men exited the vehicle. one of them was taken into custody. two others fled. the incident took place in the finsbury park area near a mosque. tweeted they were informed a van ran over people leaving the mosque. let me bring you the latest words from siddeeq khan, mayor of london. he said it was clearly an attack on innocent muslims finishing
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prayers for ramadan. while this appears to be an attack on a community, it is also an assault on all of our shared values of tolerance, freedom and respect. let's go back to phil black for the latest. phil is on the scene where the collision took place. phil. >> reporter: cyril, that statement from the london mayor siddeeq khan you just read out is clearly -- it is the strongest we have heard some far from any british official. he is calling it clearly a deliberate attack. he doesn't use the word terrorism but we know the british prime minister said it is a potential terrorism attack. the counter terror command responsible for the current investigation happening but the mayor of london going further than anyone and saying it was a deliberate attack against the people here, many of them worshipping and observing the prayers of ramadan. that's what people here this morning have been telling us. they believe this was deliberate. they believe this was terrorism against them.
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they're quite angry. they're quite upset about it. the police are still being a little more circumspect in the language that they are using. they are talking about having one man in custody. they are trying to determine just what his motivation was. he's currently in hospital. this is the man they say they believe was the driver of the vehicle. they say that he will also be given a mental health assessment in due course as well. so the police as they undertake investigation are still clearly keeping all ofheir options open, but from very high level british officials we are now hearing the possibility, the likelihood that, yes, this was in fact some deliberate form of terror attack or potentially so, cyril. >> and, phil, there is a great deal of caution here and the words being used by authorities understandably, because the fear is what would happen going forward now given what we know so far. >> reporter: indeed. the possibility, if this was a terror attack, then you have to think about what the consequences are not just for
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the community, not just for this particular muslim community, but for london and indeed the united kingdom more broadly. you have to start to think about what this person's motivations were. if this was some form of reprisal against the muslim community for other recent islamist attacks, then that changes the dynamic in a city and country that was already significantly tense and on edge because of the violence being carried out here in recent months. this really strikes back against all efforts to maintain unity, to insist there would not be division, to insist that london remains tolerant and united and does not blame the muslim community specifically for the violent actions of a few. but the people that we've been talking to here this morning, they and members of this local muslim community, they strongly see this as an attack against them. and more than that, they say it is a continuation of a recent trend. they believe islamophobic
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behavior, actions, hatred in public against their mosques, against people on public transport, abuse on the streets, these sorts of things, they all say have been on the rise in recent months, and that this was an attack against their community then this fits that trend. but we do have to say crucially the police aren't saying that yet, although we do now have this very strongly worded comment from the mayor of london, sidhan w says clearly it waseliberate attack against innent people. >> phil, stand by, please. i want to bring a new piece of video and pictures to our viewers that were provided to cnn by witnesses on the scene, and they show a man being detained and then later arrested by police. let's just take this in for a second. now, the london metropolitan police have not yet released an image of the person they have arrested, but just a reminder to ow viewers they do say they have a 48 year old man in custody, that he is currently in
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hospital, and they will be taking him into custody after he is released from hospital. phil, we saw that very, very brief video. it gives us a sense however of the chaos surrounding the scene. i have to say also it seems the composure of the crowd who just apprehended a man, law enforcement was not there, and then brought him to police after flagging down a police car. >> reporter: yes, the videos that we've seen of those moments immediately following, immediately following where the car drove through, plowed through the crowd, there's moments where the crowd appears to detain a person. it does give a sense of the chaos. you can hear lots of raised voices. some of that video -- and i think it is the one you just saw -- you can actually see the police officers seemingly putting themselves between the crowd and the man who has been detained, who looks -- well, he doesn't look entirely comfortable there, but clearly a very chaotic scene that followed
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what appears to have been this incident just a short distance from where i'm standing. >> phil black reporting live from london. cnn has several teams on the ground. we continue to bring you eyewitness accounts to try and piece together exactly what happened. what we know so far however, eight people were injured, one person died at the scene. the british government is treating this as a potential terror attack, and the mayor of london in a statement just moments ago was saying this does, indeed, look like a deliberate attack, this happening near a mosque in north london. stay with us. we'll be back in just a few moments and continue our breaking news coverage. ♪ to those who know
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♪ this is "cnn breaking news." welcome back to ow viewers here in the united states and, of course, all around the world. we are continuing our breaking news coverage of what prime minister theresa may is calling a potential terrorist attack in london. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm cyril vanier. at least one man is dead after a van drove into pedestrians here at the finsbury park area. he was pronounced dead at the scene. at least eight are wounded. ms. may is chairing a meeting later on. london mayor khan

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