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he early on made this campaign very much about donald trump. that's why he got so much attention. some of his supporters say so much momentum. he's running against a political name she said jon ossoff is just your typical liberal. here's what this race means for both sides. if ossoff is anyone to pull out here, it would be a huge symbolic victory for democrats going forward to the midterm elections. if the republicans were able to pull off a win, that would give the gop lawmakers a mandate going through trying to push through the president's agenda. the issue is it's so close, too close to call. it's going to be a nail biter for both sides. >> thanks so much for that. so is it a race against the clock on health care. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell pushing for a vote before the july 4th recess.
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some saying that could be a vote next week. democrats seizing the floor last night to protest to gut the health care law. suzanne mel vow is live on the hill for us. >> reporter: while many people were asleep, democrats were up, they were on the senate floor doing a protest, a talk-a-thon to try to call attention to the process that republicans are engaged in in trying to craft their own version on the senate side of repealing and replacing obamacare. and one of these things that they're asking for committee hearings, a copy of the text when that becomes available, when the bill is actually written and all senators meeting -- senator majority leader mitch mcconnell has rejected all three requests leaving them very few options
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other than the slow down the process and to make some noise. >> the republicans are writing their health care bill under the cover of darkness because they were ashamed of it. >> if this bill was as wonderful as the proponents would like for us to believe, it would be out in the open. >> there's only one word for what the senate republicans are doing with this bill. shame f shameful. >> reporter: they're negotiating the issue over cutting medicaid and we're learning on the senate side there could be deeper cuts than on the house version of this bill. that would make the conservatives happy but the moderates would be alienated. >> there was room to criticize the process with the aca and the current manifestation of the law but it was a lot more open process than what we're teelg with with trumpcare. join us now or flee cnn analysts, maggie haberman, david
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gregory and david rucker. david gregory, how do you tie these two big stories together, the special election in georgia with ossoff and handle and what's going on or not going on with health care. >> when i look at georgia, i see two things. it's a test of the trump brand now that he is president. this was a district that tom price held, been republican for a long long time and he won it narrowly. there's room for democrats. so you want to test the trump brand and see how it is out there given all of the turbulence of the trump administration. what is democratic intensity like out there and that's one thing we can measure, a lot of excitement about trying to win back congress next year. is this an early barometer of how the democrats are doing. just as republicans in 2010 did, so will democrats in 2018 do which is use health care as a way to really get out democratic
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voters intensely around the idea that your coverage is being taken away nap's the early look at the play book and i think that's what's happening on the hill as well. that's what the democrats are preparing to argue. >> so david, everybody thinks these things are harbingers of what is going to happen in the midterm until it doesn't go their way. like in cnn or montana. can we truly consider georgia a bellwether? >> let's not forget in 2010, in 2006, the par pi that won the special elections still ended up losing the election. it's early on in terms of that. number one, it's the kind of district the democrats have to win, upscale suburban, they've been republican for a long time but they're not high on president trump. this is the district they're
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going to have to win next year to win the majority. there are 23 republican seats that hillary clinton won last near. though it may not be a harbinger in terms of 20 s18, it could ha an immediate influence on the hill. we have members of the senate who have yet to vote on a health care bill. and if jon ossoff wins this thing, a lot of republicans are going to be looking over their shoulder wondering if they want to take these tough votes. this is a health care bill that has not been well h-received. as poorly as obamacare is functioning right now, it's more popular for the first time ever. there's things to watch out of what happens today. >> and you could make the case that georgia is neither montana nor ckansas. it should be a gop seat. it has been since '79.
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tom price held it and he won by big margins there. trump only won over a point and a half over clinton. and that's why they dumped so much money into it and a lot of the money, most of the money overwhelmingly most of the money for jon ossoff comes from out of state. how big of a deal is it? >> it is a big deal. i think there's a danger in overreading what any special election means in terms of the broader landscape and i think that's the case here. but i think that democrats really need a win. you've had a lot of democratic anger, tied up in a movement called the resistance. they need to parlay that into victory, somewhere, especially because while we've been focus on the white house's problems and they are many, the democrats are still trying to figure out exactly why they lost in 2016 and what that means going
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forward. so i think a lot of that is going to come out of what happens in this district. if democrats lose, it tends to translate more into whether they actually win. winning will be important and significant but a loss will be very very painful. a win does not portend taking back the majority in 2018. and i think david rucker is right. this is going to be a factor less for the day and more in terms of how members of congress vote. one thing to watch for this summer is how many retirements do you get from the congressional republicans who get frustrated, feeling nothing is getting done, we're here and not moving, we've had the governing majority and not made anything happen, particularly if health care does not pass. you're going to have members concerned, depending on what they see happen today on taking another vote on a trefrl bicont bill and what that could mean next year. >> i do think that voters who
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sense what maggie is saying, nothing is getting done in washington, that plays different ways. you know one of the factors back in 2010, which was the first midterm for president obama is that the government had done so much, going back to the bank bailouts and the response to the financial crisis and that a lot of voters wanted a stop on that, they wanted a stop on how much government was doing. here we haven't seen a lot from the trump administration by way of actual activity and accomplishment. and we don't see much in the way of a democratic alternative. we're fighting about preserving obamacare. and so outside of the den and all of the noise out of washington, we're going to want to gauge deeper into next near what the motive is. >> dems held the floor until midnight last night. i'm not sure what that accomplished. but how are they going to vote on something they don't know?
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>> it's was deja vu all over again but the teams has changed sides. distinctly i was watching chuck schumer warn republicans, you know, when you do things in the dead of night accommodations are made. i was thinking about the louisiana purchase. what people need to understand about the republicans in this health care bill, politically they're in a tough spot but it's tougher if they do nothing. their base elected them to run the entire government. one of the biggest promises we've seen in american political history is to repeal and replace obamacare, the affordable care act. and despite how unpopular the american health care bill is and how poorly it's been received and how worried members are, if they do nothing they risk a repun yags by they own base and next year why bother showing up if you can't respond to a promise. so if the choice is voting 0 an bill the people don't like and
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doing nothing, they're going to take their chances and vote for something that the people don't like in hopes that it hefixing health care system that they don't like and create the activity that people feel is missing. >> one is that this fixing everything. i don't understand. i've been reading this for months. i'm trying to get the economics of it. part of it is we don't know enough. that's part of the problem. you can attack the aca as much as you want. you had all of those hearings. we covered them. it took forever. there's none of it. that's why the democrats were on the floor last night. they were on the floor to provoke a conversation about the lack of consideration. how do they sell this as a fix when all we know about it is it sucks money out and in doing so jeopardizes so many people from getting coverage and that they clearly don't want it out in the open. >> the number you will hear over and over again as this process
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barrels toward a possible conclusion at a speed the democrats are trying to slow down is a 23 million figure. that's this number of people that will lose coverage on a course of a decade. that is a big problem. the whole purpose of the fix is supposed to be that more people could bget it. those are the kind of numbers that the voters tend to understand, no mat whaer is taking place behind closed doors. there are two things that will make sense. one is a loss of conch average one is cuts that is seemed to be talked about. and then there's the broader problem for the republicans right now again because they control all of government, is there were those huge protests in 2010 about the affordable care act and they were understandab understandable. and that was a far more visible process than this is. there are quotes from mike
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pence, quotes from mick mcconnell, a number of republicans going back to 2010 talking about the shame of doing this behind closed doors. you are going to see all of those quotes get recycled. you may have voters who are going to say look, washington is broken and we're not blaming it on anyone in particular but the republicans are getting close to the line. and i think david rucker is right, you do have people who have campaigned for a party for three cycles now on repealing this and they do need to show some traction. >> panel, thank you very much for all of that. we'll check back momentarily. coming up in the show on the 8:00 hour we're going to have the democrat candidate in the georgia special election, jon ossoff, there he is, the man of the moment, can he pull off a big win for the democrats. we did invite his republican challenger karen handle as we have in the past. she declined. so the u.s. will handle it.
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homicide and it could implicate what north korea did. so how will the president quote handle it, as he says. cnn's joe johns live at the white house with more. we've been told the united states was done being pass i, it was time for muscular foreign policy. not so much in this statement. >> reporter: that's true, chris. the death of otto warmbier certainly a human tragedy only adding a level of concern to the crisis that is north korea. and the administration's options, quite frankly, may be limited out of concerns for other americans impressened in north korea. meanwhile the russia investigation continues to cause distractions for this white house. >> it's a brutal regime and we'll be able to handle it. >> president trump under pressure to take a harder line toward north korea, amid outrage over the death of american
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student otto warmbier. the 22-year-old was released last week from north korean custody after spending 17 months in prison for trying to steal a propaganda poster. warmbier arrived in the u.s. with severe brain damage and in a coma. >> he spent a year and a half in north korea, a lot of bad things happened, but at least we got him home to be with his parents. >> the president offering his deepest condolences in a statement and condemning the brutality of the north korean regime. secretary of state rex tillerson saying that the u.s. holds north korea accountable for warmbier's unjust imprisonment. john mccain and marco rubio taking a tougher stone, mccain stating that warmbier was murdered by the kim jong-un regime. as the president continues to go through the russia
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investigation. two top democrats demanding democrats now in a letter to flynn's lawyers alleging that the filed national security adviser failed to disclose a 2015 middle east trip on security clearance forms, a trip reportedly related to a major nuclear energy deal involving russian. democrats alleging he left key information about a 2015 saudi arabia trip off of those forms. this is after a key member of the senate judiciary committee made this stunning statement about flynn on monday >> all of the signals are suggesting that he's already cooperating with the fbi and may have for some time >> reporter: that committee agreeing to widen the russia investigation. >> political interference with the investigation could make the president a target, the subject,
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a person of interest. >> as sean spicer's job as press secretary remains unclear. >> the white house is refusing to answer those questions on camera, my guess is because they want tharp e veir evasive answe saved for posterity. >> reporter: all eyes are on the president. the president once said he would be honored to meet with kim jong-un. the secretaries of state expected to meet on wednesday with their chinese counterparts in washington, d.c. and north korea is likely to be a hot topic. >> thank you very much for that. we want to discuss it now as well with our panel. maggie, this is -- the otto warmbier story is a tragedy on so many levels. it's sickening to watch him come
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off the plane like that. but when president trump says it's a brutal regime and we'll be able to handle it, what does he mean? >> i don't think we know yet. and you're correct that i mean it's hard to read about this case. it's really, really painful. and i think that, you know, the administration is clearly feeling the impact of that. look, the president's strategy towards north korea has relied heavily on pressuring china and beijing. he has not pressured beijing to the degree that he suggested he would during the campaign and it remains to be seen whether he'll take a plr forceful tact. there are going to be talks with chinese officials this week. we'll see if that brings anything new. they're in a tough position vis-a-vis with north korea without many options. >> this is a temptation to want to confront the president with
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his own word and programises wh it came to the foreign policy. so in a situation like this when he is clearly not, you know, upping the hostility, there's an opportunity for criticism. is that the right move. is north korea, in your experience, an actor where confronting them and being more muscular is the smart move? >> it depends on what you're talking about. sometimes yes. look, mus c muscularity and str. you see them act strongly when we do exercises. but there are other intastances like this one where you have to play with a careful hand. i suspect that they're thinking all through the options right now and it can go anywhere from sanctions to more, you know, passive diplomatic demarshes. and i don't think seriously
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these talks with the chinese are going to produce any results. it will come up but i wouldn't look to this meeting with the chinese to result to anything specific. >> i want to stay with you for one more second. the warmbier family seems to be putting part of the blame on the obama administration where you were of course in the state department saying that you all didn't do enough to bring otto home. what were the efforts? >> i did see those comments. my heart goes out to the family. i understand the grief they're going through. actually i don't understand it. it's deeper than anybody can guess. and i certainly understand the frustrations that they expressed. i respect that. now what i would tell you is -- and i was at the state department when otto was detained and taken. and what i can tell you and all of the american people is that the state department worked tirelessly to try to secure his release, as well as the release of the other americans that are being detained there. secretary kerry took it on personally and personally
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engaged his chinese counter part time and time again, mentioning otto by name. working this hard. there was every effort. and obviously we failed to get him home. this administration deserves credit for getting him out of there. we failed to do that. it's a regret we all carry with us. >> what did they do that you didn't? >> i don't know. i think -- actually, i don't know because i wasn't party to their conversations. i do think that the revelation of otto's physical condition and the urgency that it demanded had a lot to do with it but again i wasn't part of that. >> it's also curious, and i'm sure the admiral knows about this that the state department doesn't prohibit americans from visiting north korea, as was the case. i wonder if there will be a review of that. the other piece of this to senator mccain and rubio who talk about challenging north korea perhaps militarily, how
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difficult that is because of the vulnerability of the troops in south korea. are there smaller steps you can take without it's ka lating nap's what's so difficult with an unhinged regime like this that is testing advanced weaponry the way they are. you could get to a major scale conflict that nobody wants which is why the chinese are so important. we'll fear that kind of escalation, persuade the chinese to do something knowing that the u.s. can't be in a situation where we have one of our citizens murdered like this after being detained and tortured and stand idly by. >> let's talk about the latest threat in the russia investigation. there's a new wrinkle that the democrat white house seems to be float and that he believes that michael flynn is cooperating. he's reading the tea leaves, he says, so he's speculating but he sees signs that mick l flynn may already be offering up information to investigators. >> unless the senate has
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information that the rest of us are not privy to by the way of the senate investigation, and it's possible that he does, it's hard to tell from the outside whether somebody is cooperating with the fbi. there's a lot of speculation about what someone is doing, whether it's michael flynn or somebody else in another case. it is impossible to know. that having been said, it has been widely speculated on, well beyond the senator that michael flynn either has or will cut some kind of a deal with the fbi. and his attorneys have been clear that he's looking for an immunity deal. there's a belief within the white house that a lot of what you see about president trump signaling to michael flynn through anonymous stories, stay strong, he's said he wished he hadn't fired flynn. that's a concern of flynn working in tandem with the fbi and what that can mean. >> the idea that flynn didn't
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just fail to disclose some of his russia activities but that specific to the middle east, what do you see there as a sensitivity th sensitivity? >> obviously there are lots of security contracts, defense relationships that we have with countries there. i don't know what his dealings could be in terms of his consulting work. more critically what this shows me is a pattern of behavior here of nondisclosure of foreign contacts and it's not just by general flynn. i think this just builds on the narrative there was a lot of foreign activity going on during the transition that wasn't being transparent and wasn't -- and then disclose when it had to be. >> panel, thank you very much for all of those insights. another sorry, the supreme court agreeing to hear a case that could fundamentally change the way has that america conducting its elections. details next. mmmm.
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all right. so president trump has yet to condemn monday's terror attack against muslims outside a london mosque. he hasn't even expressed sympathy for our ally in britain yet. why? what does that mean in terms of this window of what the president does and does not respond to. let's discuss with senior add to editor of the tlikt and jason
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miller, the former senior communications adviser for the trump campaign. gentlemen, good to have you both. what do you see? >> one of the way that the president tweets in his own voice, he becomes responsible for everything he says and everything he does not say. he creates an imprint. you can see from his tweets his rages, fears and moods. they know what time of the day he gets up and down and you can see his real attitude toward friends and causes. he gets a lot less exercise about the deaths of muslim than he does about the deaths of nonmuslims. >> this is not the first time that the president hadn't immediately responded to an attack on muslims. we saw one a few months ago. and it's a fair argument to say well he doesn't comment on everything. but the white house has made it
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clear, as has the president, his tweets matter, they're to be seen as official statements of the president. why isn't he out in front of what happened in london? >> i do find it ironic so much of the conch recently has been on the president tweeting too much and now he's not tweeting enough. >> he can't tweet enough for me. on this show it's a different context. >> i said much of the coverage lately and that goes for all members of the media across the board as far as what we've seen. look, i think one of the things we've got to keep in mind is this attack just happened yesterday. and i think some of the criticism of the president after the most recent london attacks is he was out there too soon, commenting before all of the information is in. now what we don't know is what additional things the president or the white house might have lined up today and i do think we have to point out that the president did weigh in strongly yesterday with regard to the seven sailors who were killed in
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the ship collision as well as the tragic killing of otto warmbier which by the way i have to commend you and this network for putting so much time behind that story this morning. i quite frankly found it shameful that some of the dailies today had it reduced to a postage stamp on their front pages. good for you for doing that. it's so soon. this attack just happened yesterday. it might be that the president is waiting to get more information and we might hear from him shortly. >> well we haven't seen that reserve when it's not muslims and other things that the president seems to care more about. >> well the president also very visibly internalized what other people think about him. how people feel about him is the most important element of psychology. he's rendered himself utterly toxic in the united kingdom. probably a labor government
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fairly soon and under an anti-american leader. and all of this is super relevant. right now the trump administration is driving, without much of a plan, toward confrontations in syria and northeast asia and is doing so without allies and in a situation where even the british are going to be difficult to bring along because the president made himself and the united states so toxic in the british political environment. >> even if you wanted to wait for more information, what would be wrong about getting out in front of just wishing the best to your ally britain? >> well, and again, we don't know. we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes. we don't know what's coming in from intelligence reports. >> there can't be any reason not to express condolence to the british right? >> and there very well might be the possibility that that's something that's going to happen today. but i think the president had his focus clearly on the americans who were killed yesterday and that's where he
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was keeping most of his attention. look, this attack literally just happened yesterday. i think it's -- to go and say that the president hasn't done it yet and therefore he's not going to or that he's ignoring it, i don't think we can make that assumption. >> by definition if you haven't said anything by something you are ignoring it. and when you talk about north korea, yes, the president did comment on it but it was a very different type of measured comment than the muscularity that he suggested he would use with north korea, certainly far more passive than he was about cuba. he gave a speech that was 50-odd minutes long, strong and what he wanted there. with north korea much more measured even though we have a potential homicide of an american at north korean hands. why? >> the important thing i think some of this in our previous segment, what we also don't know is what other conversations are happening and what the administration is trying to do with bringing home additional american prisoners. again, big credit to the
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administration for getting otto warmbier home. i wish we could have got him back in better shape and he was still alive and with us. this killing is absolutely terrible. but many of our options might be limited when it comes to north korea. >> since the intervention at camp david when the president was isolated and prevented from tweeting about robert mueller. he has been more restrained. something happened apt camp david. since then he's been on best behavior. >> jason miller unless you know anything about the third scoop, we'll leave it are for another time. thank you both. alison? >> that is persuasive. so a college star about to achieve his basketball dream with a big assist from his mom. details in the bleacher report next.
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medication. no alcohol was found in his system. jason tatum played at duke and his mom had him when she was just 19. raised him by herself in st. louis. at times their utilities wity w turned off. he remembered feeling helpless when his mom cried and they found a pink foreclosure notice on their door. she got a degree in political science, went to law school, taking her son to class at times. she used her struggles to teach jason everything is possible. he would go to high school and had a 90-minute workout before class started. brandy cole is now a lawyer and her son will be a top pick in thursday's draft. >> they are role models in terms of work ethic. a great sotory.
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democrats and an independent to take their pulse and we start with a registered democrat who voted for garry johnson for president but who says he's come around to supporting president trump. >> my feeling is very complicated. i voted for johnson, third party voter. however i have been moving towards the president. there are people oppoopposing h not on policy but they don't like him. i don't like that. it's important that we support the president. we're all in this together. >> it's like the rhetoric. we're like we're in perpetual campaign. both parties need to take responsibility for the radicals on each side of the aisle and influence the parties to make positive influence for average people. >> it's not just the rhetoric, it's not just his twitter feed. it's the policies that he is enacting, the policies he's
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pulling out of. this is daily doing damage to our country and to our future generations and to the world. >> i just think if we give him a little bit of time and we all work together, democrats, republicans, and we cut out the crazy we'll be all right. >> cut out the crazy. that's a good national motto. when you hear the folks on this side or other trump supporters say you've got to give him a chance, hasn't been long enough, what do you say? >> it shouldn't take six months. it shouldn't take six weeks. the office of presidency is not a place to cut your teeth on government. >> i don't think it's in our best interest to try to focus on the areas where we disagree. i think we should try to start where we agree, infrastructure, tax reform, getting more jobs, you know, taking care of america. who is against that? let's start there and then we can kind of work from there and you know, maybe turn off his twitter, you know. >> show of hands, wish that he would stop the twitter.
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why are you half and half on stopping the twitter. >> i'll be honest, it's like watching a train wreck. but at the same time, i mean, he's telling us things that he shouldn't be telling us that are going to get him in trouble and really he's kind of helping speed that process i believe of getting him out of office just because he can't shut up. >> trump hasn't done anything to anybody. he's tweeted. hasn't really passed any major legislation. where's the travel ban now. there are mechanisms that we have to deal with a personality as big as trump and we have to give him a chance to -- i hate to use his vernacular but drain the swamp. >> i don't think he's draining the swamp. he's filling the swamp with more of the same. how many people are from goldman sachs that he's working for. how many people are billionaires. >> every other administration has done the same thing. he may not be draining the swamp
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in that aspect. but when he's trying to shrink the size of government, give him a chance. >> let's start bringing jobs home by making his ties here. why can't he bring his companies here to america to create jobs. you got to lead by example. you're the leader of the free world. >> i somewhat agree with that but i do think he's made some changes that are positive. the paris accord, rattling nato in my mind was a good thing. you know, that is another deal that is a raw deal as far as america is concerned. >> i mean i think putin is getting exactly what he wants out of all of this. you shake up nato and it shakes up our leadership, it shakes up our relationships and russia has had a clear, clear impact globally. i mean putin is not stupid. i mean i think that he's got his claws in globally. and it feels to me that, that
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the shaking up of nato to me is not a good thing. i don't disagree that we're paying more than our fair share. i don't disagree with that. but i think there's a way to negotiate that. and this is the guy who says he can make the best deals ever and i haven't seen that yet. >> back to the giving him a little time concept, i think that what he did with nato is step one, and that's to bring everybody to the table. >> i disagree. i disagree. i don't think he's bringing people to the table. i think he's alienating the united states from the rest of the world. and pulling out of the paris agreement was horrible. a bad decision. we're alienating our allies even at this point. our international diplomacy is horrible. >> i kind of disagree because i think he has achieved great success over the years with that posture and that approach and i think he's using the same approach. >> in business. >> they all have to start somewhere. >> that's in business. the way you conduct business is not the way you run a country.
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>> he is our president. what is it like for you as nonsupporters to have to function >> i'm really struggling. i'm struggling to not stay in my echo chamber on social media. i started a company called rise travel and we take people to -- we do travel logistic to get people to and from marches and rallies and things like that. it's lit a fire for me. >> i have decided at my level that i am running for congress. i'm going to run for the u.s. house of representatives to represent ohio's tenth district. >> is that right? >> yes. i plan to do what democrats never do which is to go out into all parts of my district, including the rural republican parts and give them my message, saying let's open a dialogue. i don't think i would have considered this had hillary clinton won. >> last question. hillary clinton is sort of dancing around the edges of public stage. is she still a leader in the democratic party? >> i think it's past hillary. we need a new vision.
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we need people who are not the common politician and let's, let's really create a future that is viable for all of us. all of us. >> so one of the things that i heard from them and that i've heard from a lot of voters and i think this is interesting that this has taken root. the two-party system, republican/democrat is not cutting it for them anymore. they want other options. they don't want to be put in those boxes. a lot of them feel fiscally conservative and socially moderate and they don't know where to go for those feelings. >> in truth i've been hearing that since i was eight. >> maybe it's time to do something about that. >> third parties never get any purchase, whether it's because of the money or the dominant personalities. it doesn't happen. >> i hear you. but it feels like there's maybe a chipping point. maybe something is changing. if enough people say we want to
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break out of this mold, then maybe something happens. >> maybe. >> thanks so our international viewers for watching if for your cnn newsroom is next. for u.s. voters, "new day" continues right now. all eyes on georgia today. >> the intensity is high. it's a neck in neck race. >> it's obviously a test of the trump brand now that he is president. >> let's send someone to washington who can really handle it. >> you're asked to pick up the phone on an investigation. >> the stone walling that we're getting over here at the white house. i don't know what world we're living in right now. >> you don't forget a $100 billion deal. >> are you under investigation by the special counsel? >> a lot of bad things happen but aleast we got him home to be with his parents. >> north koreans cannot be allowed to seize americans, brutalize them and send them home in a coma to die. >> the adm
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