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your entire dvr, top networks, and live sports on the go. included with xfinity tv. xfinity the future of awesome. welcome to inside politics, i'm john king thanks for sharing injury day with us another very busy day in politics. senators holding their weekly strategy lunch this hour and as democrats explain about a secret process, republicans say they could be just a day or two away from finally producing their version of replacing obamacare. >> i just have to say this is the least transparent process. every piece of legislation i have seen in my 24 years in the senate. >> plus urgent kaulds to retal
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late against north korea after a 22-year-old american who was detained for nearly a year and a half. >> it's a total disgrace what happened to otto. that should never ever be allowed to happen. and frankly if he were brought home sooner, i think the result would have been a lot different. >> and that day discuss a big race in the atlanta suburbs. on this day ground zero in american politics. if is special election day. democrats have have a chance to win a house seat held by republicans since the carter administration. republicans believe they can squeak out a win, but if they lose in a district like this, it will be viewed as evidence of a major trump drag that could carry over into the 2018 midterms. trump's health secretary tom price won this two years ago with the 60% vote. the president just barely beat hillary clinton in the direct. it's highly educated, one of those districts where the president has trouble, they believe there could be a trump drag tonight. republicans think they're going to squeak this out, but if they
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don't look for big fallout here in washington tomorrow. it's a race with national implications. the candidates have tried to say this is about the sixth district. the democrat jon osoff. democrat karen handel both campaigning to the end. >> they are not interested in hollywood and california coming in and buying this seat and they are very concerned about an individual who does not even live in the district. for me, the voters in the six they know me and they trust me and that's why i feel really good about today. >> the contrast in this district is between a career politician, my opponent karen handel who's notorious for cutting off funding for lifesaving breast screenings at planned parenthood or someone to work across the aisle to get things done, work to make healthcare for affordable for women with prekmifting conditions. >> carol lee we wall street judge, npr steveinsky and jackie so he sin niche of the daily
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beast, the polls in georgia sixth congressional district hope you stay with us here. and you can be certain even though it's one special election and one of the house seats with the the results will have a major impact on the immediate here in washington. president trump woke up to this today. his job approval rating is down to 36%. he knows he will be blamed in if republicans loose and he's trying to rally the base. here's one tweet, karen handel. he will never give up, vote today. that from the president. here's the flip side. democrat john aus osoff who wants ton raise your taxes and is weak on crime and security doesn't even live in the district. welcome to the conversation. we're sitting in washington, this race plays out today. it's reliably red territory, it's one of 435 seats, but we don't know who's going to win but we do know whatever happens washington the overreact and take this as -- >> this washington.
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>> this washington and take this as a national message. let's start with the republicans. they've tried to stay loyal. if they lose a seat they carried two years wag 60% of the vote that they've held since the carter trags, they are going to see that as big trouble for 2018. >> yes. and not just 2018 but you'll see a cascading effect in terms of whether republicans are willing to get in line with this president on his policy agenda and his legislative agenda. and that then in turn would impact how the republicans fair in 2018. so it's -- it's pretty widespread for republicans, as we all know they get very nervous when they start losing races and so it's not just a year from now year and a half from now, but it's this month, there week what republicans are trying to do with healthcare. >> when you mention this month, this week, there's other big zigsz here. number one let's assume they can pass a healthcare bill then can they reconcile it with the house. this will affect that, how they
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read the polz, then you move to tax reform and infrastructure. but also some big zagsz lot of republican incumbents have to decide whether to run for re-election and whether they were taik take this as a signal not. a lot of democrats out there mayors and city laij legislatures have to decide whether to take a risk and run for congress in republican districts. they will read the results and say should i do this. >> you identified a couple of ways that this is meaning ffl even though it's only one of 435 seats. there's a question of morale on the republican side. also on the democratic side, all the donors who donated 10s of millions of dollars for this race, do they get anything for that. and there's also a question more broadly of whether democrats can compete in more conservative districts. and trump aside, and trump's unpopularity aside across the country, can they find a mess able that works on issues like immigration which trump has used very strongly. aus osoff in georgia dps it's strg when he's talked about immigration he's touched a little bit about it in what
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sounds like republican terms at least saying in some of his campaign literature that i wanted a policy that protects american citizens, protects their security, protects their jobs which say trumpian way to talk about imgrigs aggregation. >> when they cannot win the house back if they can't compete. >> suburban, wealthy, highly educated, that is this, that's the large part of this district. and if they end up pulling this off krur bet they're not going to look at this as a one off. they're going to take this this playbook and try to apply it in other places. now, places where they won't have the funding that they have in this current race. >> 50 plus million dollars, that's fluts. >> that's the most expensive house seat. so that also will be something that could come out of this. if they lose, back to the drawing board. >> if the democrats lose this seat, it's going to be really fascinating to see what happens here because they lost kansas, they lost montana, those are two
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seats if you look at the dem grachgz the district they have very little reason to think they could win but the base was fired up. so we're talking about ha happens if the republican losses and how that will cause a pan nirk across the republican party if the if the democrats can't win a race, the numbers show they have a chance, what happens then? >> right. there are 23 districts that hillary won that were republican congressman so thoefrz the top ones. this one is very close. trump won by 1.5 points. very close, college ed pay the kated people. this is the one that democrats need to win some like this. it's in the suburbs, wealthy area. >> i think you have a lot of democrat people that trump is very unpopular. had is the kind of race they want to win it will be a symbol for other people that are thinking about running. >> if we talk about republican losing, there will aban equal panic. this is not good stair fore for trump. had one of the districts where he just eek today out. donald trump gets 46% in 2016,
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this is not a pro trump republican base. how much does this factor? if you look deeper in the cbs poll and the approval rating, among republican voters 72% approve of the president's job numbers but it's down 11 points if you look among republicans he's down 11 points since april. so you have not only democrat energy anti-trump, but now have you republicans sort of eh about trump. >> one thing we think about we should think about all trump voters are not the same pit have a group that's intensive supportive behind him and there's a group what we call reluctant trump voters who are weary of him, don't like the healthcare bill, like other things he's done. 72% is not a great number. 72 suggests it's -- think this low among your own party it's not high and not a good sign. >> if you're -- counting at home
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it was five months ago today he was inaugurated as president of the united states. >> and talk about hillary clinton any chance he gez because they know in the white house you can sell that message to republicans better than you can sell donald trump. >> voters are getting from the conversations i've had, they're tired of the chaos. they want them to get something done. and because of the short of shiny object syndrome that we've seen or just the shine yn russia syndrome that we've seen, not necessarily the issue but the fact that it's did he tracting from all of the other things that the president has promised to do it's starting to be a problem. you've heard enough already let's get things done. >> it's a trump drag a place where he was already popular is there a deep are trump drag. it's also a great test case, trump is president because from voters in 2016, looking for something drirch. they were willing to go with an outsider someone who never held political office before. if you look at these two candidates, jon osoff, first run for public office, been a
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filmmaker he grew up in the direct, republicans from made a big deal with the lives with his girlfriend from a neighboring distinct right now but not a politician. if you look at karen handel, former georgia secretary of state was the fulton county commissioner, there's three big counties in this district, that's one of them. she ran for governor, nor senate. she has stressed she has not run from it to her credit because you can't, she has said i are the experience, i know how government works, i can get things done petd has said send a fresh face, the career poigs politicians are the ones screwing things up. in size, osoff is trump in this race, sorry, but is he. >> or emmanuel macron. >> this is the matchup that we've seen in cycle after cycle and we've continued ton see where the outsider tends to do better and that's, you know, it's an interesting -- it's flipping the script a little bit. >> if you are a republican incumbent and you're getting tired of the child care center known as washington, d.c. and you don't like this president, you have issues with this president or you just think it's
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time to do something else and somebody as well tested, as well experienced in politics as karen handel lose a race like this to a newcomer, are you going to think twice about running for re-election? >> child care center, wouldn't that imply that there's someone taking care of the children? >> i might get -- >> we'll see. but of course handel looks like the incumbent because the president is a republican and such a high-profile president. >> i'll be curious if osoff wins if people get more excited. they're not excited by his politics, he's not very liberal and not very popular so i'd be curious if osoff if you see mr. cand lates like him, outsider rrk little bit like obama in 2007 vague i'm from the future i'm young i'm from new things if that kind of candidate can do well that will be an issue to see going forward. >> they won't be getting just one candidate to run, they'll get more for both parties. but sit tight they'll count the
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the list of the investigations is growing again. senate judiciary committee leaders are meeting with robert mueller tomorrow. and we report the committee did is about to launch a review whether there's been any improper melgd with the fbi's investigation into russian melgd investigation. they say those questions will include whether president trump himself interfered and include the circumstances that led him
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to fire the fbi director james comey. >> reporter: it's political sbierns with an ongoing investigation. regardless of what the president's lawyer may say could make the president a target, a subject, a person of interest. and so our hearing the very much involve potential obstruction of justice in the firing of comey and other actions. >> the president, as you well know, calls all these investigations witch hunts. whether you see them as legitimate or not, there is zero debate about the toll on the trump white house. as we noted, the priz president's approval rating is dismal 36% in that cbs poll. and his handling of of the russian investigation is getting terrible numbers too. so whether you think these are witch hunts or urgent necessary inquarries there's no question about the cloud they've cast over the president. what does it tell us in the president calls them witch hunts he calls them partisan, the
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senate committee is chaired by a republican just like the house intelligence committee is chaired by a republican. we don't know how far the senate judiciary investigation is going to go whether it's a hearing or two on the question of this, but it's still republicans expanding the review of this president's conduct. >> one noteworthy thing i've noticed when talking with rankd file republicans, they don't use the phrase witch hunt. i'm not saying it's universal, they don't use the phrase witch hunt they say let's follow this investigation where it leads. even if they sort of defend the president by going on to say maybe he had appropriate contacts with intelligence officials because he's new to this and don't know what he's doing, even when they say that they will say let's let the investigation go where it leads. and you have to assume that among other things they are aware of what the public thinks of this and that majorities of the public think that say serious matter that needs to be vsted. >> i think part of the reason that the republicans are able to do that versds the president is because the president just takes this so personally. and, you know, they're rather looking at this more broadly as,
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you know, russia interfered in our democratic process, that's a serious issue, we need to get to the bottom of that. we need to look at every aspect of that and the president, he can't separate the two. he just sees the whole thing as personal and politically und mining him. >> one of the questions i was asking should people be talking about -- whether they're democrats or republicans if they're on the committee and if they see the information, we're in the transparency business we want them to talk to us, we want them to leak to us had the however when you see feinstein the ranking democrat on the judiciary committee on whether they're going to look into obstruction of justice, i think will it includes it or not, people look for it. you look at various pieces of information, you see something and say, lowe. she's a democrat, she's also not known to say reckless partisan, but when you say something like you are raising the stakes, are you not think there to the point you're making about the republicans who aren't willing to defend the president, they want these things to proceed expeditiously, find out facts,
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issue a report, can we please close this book and move on. >> she's also stateding the obvious. when newspaper reports suggested that the special counsel was looking into obstruction of justice, one response to that was, well, of course how you cannot given what's out there in the public put at least have to ask the question, which doesn't presuppose the answer. >> in some ways the president's forcing their hand, republicans and democrats on this, not that democrats, i a lot of forcing in this whole thing. but when you have the president saying a letter from the deputy attorney general saying that comey was fired for one reason and then the president saying, no, i fired him because of the russia investigation i'm paraphrasing of course, that does raise questions. and those questions not saying that's an obstruction of justice cause or anything like that at this point, but that does raise more questions than it answers. >> the point you raise is right when republicans, you've showed feinstein that charles grassley was -- that's who make things
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go. the biggest 1 thing we saw was 97 had 2 last week when the republicans in the senate said trump was talking about lifting sanctions it was 97, 2 vote saying you have to go through us first to do that i think that tills the members themselves, the republicans are not necessarily criticizing them on tv or public but they're taking actions that suggest they are nervous about him particularly about russia. >> which is why i find the constitutional right irony that you met most republicans say let's get to the facts here, i don't think the president did anything wrong, but let's find out and keep going. there are some out there who want to say this is all -- it's just quite ironic that one of them leading that is ted kwlouz had a number of interesting traks transaction with the president, some things i would find unforgivable are are but -- >> listen there are a political circus at this point. democrats and sadly much of the immediate yar using this as an excuse just to attack the president. they want this president to fail, they want the administration to fail.
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when you're in washington, d.c., the only question any reporter ever wants to ask you about is about russia, is about impeachment, about attack the president. when i go tomorrow home to texas i travel the state an answer questions across the state, nobody asks about that. >> this is not true. people ask wherever i go what's happening with russia. even members of congress i talk to say russia comes up all the time. >> of course it does. not only here, like anywhere you go in the world. this is what everybody's looking at 'but that's a remarkable turn around for senator cruz i just have to say. and the cynical reporter in us might wonder what's motivating him to be so positive and so defensive of the president because you didn't see a the lov republicans going that far. >> the depth of the president's support among the republicans in texas, maybe, just maybe. >> i had a conversation with one of cruise cruz's constituents a few days ago, someone who vote ford trump who began by saying i stopped paying attention to the news it's too depressing and then ventd for about 15 minutes on issue after issue after issue
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that he was obviously following closely and one of them was the russia investigation about which he said i have no idea what to make of this anymore. >> i was in philadelphia last week for a baseball game. it wasn't a great reporting trip but went to watch my red sox lose and 1 quick point. >> in south philly trump voters, blue collar trump voters were saying you can get him off twitter you can get him to stop talking about this stuff? they're talk about it in different ways but they're talk about it. >> rondal reagan, george h.w. bush, think whoez whose make the right choice. >> you think he still wants to run for president. >> i'm thinking he might still want to be president, yes. >> big one next is the secret senate healthcare bill almost ready to be revealed. unes toget♪ ♪ i've got some real estate here in my bag ♪
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on the phone. they are scared and they are angry. >> that was last night on the floor of the united states senate. democrats airing they're displeasure with republicans for craft a big healthcare bill behind closed doors. this is tuesday, the day in the week when senators in both parties gaej separately for weekly strategy lunches so we could soon know if that healthcare process will result in a piece of legislation that can be red and debated. phil mattingly is live on capitol hill for us. phil, i saw one senator on tv this morning say we might have a bill to look at by thursday. is that realistic? >> i think that's the goal right now. if you talk to senior gop aides they acknowledge that they need a proposal at the have to come to an agreement on these several outstanding issues within the next 24 to 48 hours. that would give them time to send a proposal to the congressional budget office, get that scored at some point next week, get a final proposal or draft on thursday of this week and an ideal scenario and if all works according to plan get that
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cbo score and vote by thursday of in week. that is the ideal scenario. but one of the road blocks here, if you will, if you look at the issues that still haven't been agreed upon, and it's worth noting inside the republican conference, when it comes to healthcare they are diedy logically very split. there's not 52 senators in their conference who agree on the basic tenents of serious issues like medicare expansion or how 0 cut back on obama restrictions. until they can agree on tlez those, there will be no proposal. that's ha the lunch today is supposed to be about and tomorrow is supposed to be about. at some point in week you've had enough time, you've had plenty of meetings behind the scenes, now it's time to come to an agreement. >> watch when they come oft that lunch we'll see if there's any news about that. phil makes a very important point you need 50 voits votes
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plus mike pence to break it. and it's hard to get a ted cruz or ryan paul on the same page. so it's hard on the policy part of it. until we get a bill and when we get a bill i promise you we'll talk about what's in it how many people get kicked off health insurance and home people on medicaid. since it's behind closed doors it's about the theater. >> i want to show a little clip of video here, three democrats call it theater dawel a zunt if you'd like. core piry booker, murphy and schatz, new jersey, connecticut, in a car stream ago these go to the congressional budget office they say they're looking for the senate republican bill and the score. the score is the grading on how much it would cost, how many people would lose their healthcare. so, again, part of the prepolicy theater here which we're laughing about. it's somewhat important because they're trying to rally their base and shame the republicans into a process. but it will be much more important whether we get a bill. >> that's very true.
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ways thinking rand paul called and he wants his stunt back because detective same thing on the house side. >> right. >> just about a month ago. and, yeah, it's a stunt, but democrats, especially using that word mean, that the president apparently said behind closed doors, i think you're going to hear that reverberating all over the place. whether or not this fails, that say sound bite that they're going to -- or that say word that is going to be used in every ad that we see about healthcare from now until 2018. >> not only that, mean is something that is going to be on the minds of republicans who are thinking of voting for something that maybe they're not entirely comfortable with, is this president going to come in and undermine them after they've cast this vote. and that's part of the problem with what the president said, which i think is probably one of the most significant things that he's said in vent weeks in that same line. >> that's a very important point. the president has that big rose garden ceremony ton celebrate the house passed bill and he meets last week with republican
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senators to urge them to continue their work which he .edly used the word mean to criticize the bill. and now he's saying after the fact, after of the celebration the president started reading news reports to bill oh it does that to medicaid, it gives waivers for preexisting conditions and whatnot. so the president's calling it mean, the speak are of the house frieg to say the president didn't exactly mean that. >> i don't think that accurately reflects the president's sentiment about the house health care bill. >> i think that was some kind of a misinterpretation of a private meeting. i was talking to the president many, many times he's excited on what we did in the house. >> so you're saying he's on board then. >> he's on board and also the senate's got their own legislative process so they're going to take their amendments aind assume they'll change the bill. big legislation like this doesn't go through the house or senate with no changes. >> i love my old colleague bill hemmer but the better follow-up question would have been mr. speaker those were several republican senators who said the president used the word mean and use today repeatedly.
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>> and phil mattingly's reporting as well as other people's reporting underlines a reality this will bill isn't being kept secret from democrats although it is, it's being kept away from republicans and conservative interest groups because they don't foe who's going to react which way as there were fierce reactions to the house bill once it was known. >> this bill has momentum, though, for one reason. no one that's a republican wants to vote against the bill to repeal the hated obamacare. so i think a lot of this stuff about the details, what comes out, i will watch carefully to see three members of the senate stand up and vote against obamacare. and i'm very scep -- on the repeal. i'm skeptical that will happen no matter what the details will say. >> it's a great question you raise and i think the rultsds in georgia could impact the senate as well. if republicans start getting skittish, if you're from a more moderate state, you need a lot of suburban voters you're going to react to this. cbs poll this morning, what do you know -- do you know what the healthcare plan will do? yes where are have a good
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understanding. only 23% of americans say that. 76% of americans say they haven't heard enough. and this bill could come out thursday. they could try to vote ton within a week in the 4th of july recess. this was a safbt badge and forth between the majority leader mitch mcconnell and democrat leader chuck schumer. >> what we have time, more than ten hours since this a complicated view to review the bill? will it be available to us and the public more than ten hours before we have to vote for it since our leader has said, our republican leader that there will be plenty of time for a process where people can make amendments. you need time prepare those amend zblents i think we'll have ample opportunity ton read and amend the bill. >> will it will more than ten hours. >> i think we'll have ample opportunity to read and amend the bill. >> i rest my case. >> there's ample time before this commercial break if you want to -- >> that's your government at
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work right there. >> this bill has had unusually low amount of hearings and discussion and i think this is different from 2009, this is not a partisan is able so say this bill has been kept more secret, members can't see. . they're going to the cbo and it's weird that people who serve in the united states senate can't see a bill that's been finished in some way and therefore cbo it's a very odd process. >> one sixth of the american economy and affects every single american and you think people might actually want to know about it. >> i think so. >> yes, people do actually want to know about it and they probably want to know about it with enough time to actually figure out what is in the bill. >> just remember, as the democrats beat up on the republicans, you have seen this movie before if you've been around for a little while. >> i goont back in time. the republicans are crafting this behind closed doors. as we go to briek, this trademark vin tag tweet from then the governor of the indiana, mike pence it's wrong for legislation that will affect 100% of the american people to be negotiated behind closed doors.
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that was then, this is now. >> and he's a part of the negotiations, apparently, today. >> it goes to the point that the cbs poll showed also that the bill is unpopular. i think that's part of the problem is that they're not sure, i think their sense is that the more -- the house clips we saw the, the more the bill was discussed -- got -- less support it gat, particularly the idea this is not a popular bill, there's going to be lots of medicaid cuts in if the so the idea of discussing it in public is not going to help its passage is probably politically wise and accurate. >> it's going could significantly change obamacare depending on how they come down on the medicaid question and but if you have something that doesn't pull the roots out, if you look at mikely of at, rand kentucky there are two right there who said they won't vote for anything that's not full and complete repeal. either one of them changes their mind or those two get to you 50.
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and if you lose those two, that's 50 plus mike pence. if you lose those two, that's it, that's all you can lose. >> you still have mike pence who had that tweet that might be there to save it. we don't know lazy going to be in this bill but it's widely expected to be some variation on the house-passed bill. with that essential formula for subsas and that essential formula for medicaid move around some of the numbers. it's widely expected to be that and it's worth remembering that one of the things that was said about that house-passed bill it had no natural constituency for the very reason that you said, it keeps parts of obamacare, it destroy parts of obamacare, it moves the numbers around, it reduces subsa decide did is for a the lov people who probably voted for donald trump for president and that rapes lot of questions and will make it hard for some members to support. >> i would keep an eye on senators from states that were heavily hid by the opioid crisis because their governors are going to be screaming if their medicaid funding is cut. >> that's something that they use for that fund organize for the requirement that private healthcare plans cover drug treatment as well. weep keel an eye on that.
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again we're talk about the drama of the theater once we have a bill to discuss we'll talk much more about the numbers and tps impact on you. a 22-year-old dies days after being released from north korea, so how should president trump respond? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. love mom and dad' i'm takin' a nap. dude, you just woke up! ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides.
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welcome back. the death of a young american detained in north korea for more than a year sparking calls for swift and tough response. 22-year-old otto warmbier died monday afternoon just days after his release. he was in a coma when north korea final leigh loud him to be medically evacuated to the united states. >> a lot of bad things happened, but at least we got him home to be with his parents where they were so happy to see him even though he was in very tough condition. but he just passed away a little while ago. that's a brutal regime and we'll be able to handle it. >> the question is handle it how. in a statement last night
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senator john mccain of the arizona said let us state the facts plainly, otto warmbier was murdered by the kim jong-un regime. they should not tolerate the murder of its citizens. marco rubio of florida said otto warmbier should never have been in jail for tearing down a stupid banner and he most certainly should not have been murdered for. 'murderer's a strong words. i can't argue that it's inappropriate in this case based on what happened, he was detained for a year and a half, there were consistent efforts during the obama administration to try to get him out, north korea did not accede to those efforts. seems they sentd him home when they realized how dire the situation was, but the we is what. you hear about sanctions maybe prohibiting any tour uft travel by americans to north korea, but we hear the sanctions debate every time they test a missile as well. are there any additional sanctions that can be put in place to make any difference here? >> well, the north korea's if not the most isolated country in
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the world one of the most -- and there's already a ton of sanctions that are on north korea, things that they could do and that they haven't these so-called secondary sanctions which basically target chinese banks or companies that are doing business with north korea. this administration and the previous administration have been reluctant do that because it's such an aggressive move. and so the trump administration has decided they'll give china a few months to try to take some steps to choke off aid to north korea in trade and whether or not they do that then they'll move to oerm steps. but your point is exactly right, there is no good answer here. no one wants military action in north korea because no one really knows ha that would unleash. and there aren't any option when's it comes to sanctions. >> and i should note as we're on the air here the president just tweet dollars his condemnation of the brutality of the regime and in the tweet was a link to some comments he made in the oval office expressing his regret at the death of this young american saying he'd talk to his parents and talked about
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how great his parents were, the compassion they had showed. and good for the president for doing that and the question is what you can do with this? >> here's a kaurnt intuitive answer for that are there's a kaurnt of justice for the dead man. but they should talk, actually. we talked with secretary of state rex tillerson in late april and he said what he wanted to be doing, what the united states wanted to be doing with the north korean regime was talking with thim them specifically about the nuclear program and ending it but they nt wad to talk directly. thended up talking directly to bring home otto warmbier. it's a great circumstance in which it happened but it raise the possibility that the administration might go back to north korea again and say we wanted the other three people that you're holding, the other three americans that you're will whoing back. he with want to discuss the end of your nuclear program. >> i don't know that they're going to do that, but it is what they previously said -- >> you make an important point. >> i just want to put it up on the screen for people watching at home. there are three additional americans being held there are
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are once since october 2015, one since april, one since may. as the receipt are rick plays out, you understand the use of the word mufrd, the understandable debate about ha do nichlt, this is a hermit regime and unpredictable and as that debate plays out, it could affect the faft these three americans being held. maybe the north koreans will decide as a gesture you want to have talks, let's show our good faith. >> i wouldn't bet on that. >> what you heard from admiral john kirby throughout today is that one of the reasons, andco we don't know this, one the reasons the north korean where jet stream decided to release this young man was because he was so gravely ill, that is one of the theories there. so we don't know that talking even worked here. he might just have been so ill they didn't want him on north korea soil when he passed away. >> we'll continue to watch the diplomacy as well as political outrage. up next rumors about sean spicer's future swirling again. this is a story about mail and packages.
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welcome back. it was just five months ago sean spicer anc kerd america's living room with a first briefing room experience we're not likely to forget. >> this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period. both in person and around the groeb. these attempts to lesson the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. >> now, since that fiery briefing room, call it a spree, call taye lecture, call it what you will, that was january 21st, the president has mostly been mad at his press secretary complaining toth ore aides and sometimes to spicer himself about his performance, his inability to respond quickly enough to leaks the president believes and his failure the president thinks to stop thoez leaks. it's why spicer's departure from the briefing room has long been is he center of what's become a cottage industry of a perhaps white house shake-up. now spicer rumored to be on his way out of the briefing room
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which means "saturday night live" might need a new stick. >> trump is innocent? how do we know? because he told us so he, sperd. the travel ban not a ban. >> but just called it a ban. >> because i'm using your words. you said ban. i clearly meant to say concentration clubs. okay. take that. you cannot come at me like that i will put you in the corner with cnn. i'm telling you exactly what president trump told me. >> but what if he's lying to you? >> he -- i'm going to new york. the press interview is over. >> that's funny, melissa mccarthy does a great sean spicer but in one is of those stories where you could focus on the theater and the dramand at constant leaks about the shake-up in the white house. whether you like sean spicer or not, whether you support him or not, this is his job and he's been constantly talking about losing your job, which say hard
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thing to do. and number two, there's a bigger issue about white house transparency and secrecy in this interim period where his job has been underreview or consideration, they've start dodd more off camera briefings, which i'm a tv person so we want the camera in the room. >> i covered the white house, they don't always will have to have a camera in the room, but it is bad when an administration starts to retreat from public discles you're and public discourse. that's my speech. but when we start with the issue of sean spicer, we expect tim who step snoo some behind the scenes roll and someone else to step? >> we don't know. i think there will be changes and they've already implemented a number of clangz in the way they're handling the press operation and the briefing. we've not had a briefing on camera in a week and they'll do one today for the first time. but they can sthooz choose now do their press operation however they want to do, but it doesn't mean that they get to skirt accountability and that's what we've seen. that's the problem, i think, that reporters are having with the way that they're doing things. it's not designed to just do
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things differently and shake things up a little bit. it's designed to try to manipulate the system so that they don't have to be held as accountable as typically press secretaries and whougss are held accountable. >> the story in "the washington post" they want to plag people who written was phil rucker mentioned we're at a general decline of transpatiencesy in washington right now, at the pentagon, white house, not on camera anymore. we have this healthcare process, we have administration officials not sharing information with the congress at all, congressmen who are republican and democrats. we generally are having a bigger problem of transparency and more things being kept secret which say broader issue than sean spicer but really important with not a press issue but the american public is not seeing healthcare hearings either and that's why i think it's important to emphasize that. >> even when there's an appearance of transparency it really isn't because you don't know which of the many different messages to believe the. ma lis' mccarthy pair row did i was literal in a way that he/she
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keeps denying things that were obviously said. and it's just a statement of fact, that's not a partisan statement it's just a statement of fact the president will contradict his own aides and the aides will contradict each other. and even as far as shawn spice's rumored departure would go, how would you believe any brort that if it ever does happen. >> the rumor is perhaps the talk show host lawyeraing ingram, she might call this a bit ever an audition. >> president needs to remember the reason he got elected to shake up washington. the republicans have got to pass legislation that's going to make the lives of everyday americans better. >> better. >> if they do not, they should leave office. they should not be in washington because apparently, you know, they're either too afraid or they want to resist trump themselves. >> i don't know ha it is. but they should not go home to fundraisers and picnics in august if they can't get their
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rear ends in gear and deliver for the american people. >> now, laura ingrum gram says part of that interview she's not dying for the job it would not be the best use of that skill set but if the president saw that this morning he might like it. thanks for joining us for "inside politics" remember there is a white house briefing today the next hour his own future will be among the questions. wolf blitzer will guide you through that after a quick break. oices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. tech: when you schedule with safelite autoglass, you get a text when we're on our way. you can see exactly when we'll arrive. i'm micah with safelite. customer: thanks for coming, it's right over here. tech: giving you a few more minutes for what matters most. take care. kids singing: safelite® repair, safelite® replace. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans.
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hello i'm wolf blitzer it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem, 1:30 a.m. wednesday in pong yong yang north korea. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining put take a look at these live pictures coming in from the white house briefing room. later this hour the press secretary sean spicer scheduled to give his first on camera briefing in eight days. we'll have live coverage of that coming up. audio and vee available. we're also following these developing stories. voting is under way in georgia's sixth congressional district and what could be the most important
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