comfortable with the notion that they are acting impartially, objectively and with the good of the country in mind. >> why pull his clearance before you know the answers to the questions? >> as a practical matter, that's not going to happen. i know there are some people calling for that, and i they they're calling for it because there are some big, important questions. remember, chris, as has become evident, with michael flynn, here is a guy who the deputy attorney general told the white house could be compromised by the russians, could be subject to blackmail, and for almost three weeks he was in every closed room looking at all sorts of classified information. so people who are raising the alarm about this question, again, i don't think we'll pull his security clearance any time soon, but it's not unfair to raise that question. >> last question. you hear the intel chief say what the president asked us was odd, but we didn't feel pressured, we didn't feel he was telling us we had to tell the public about what was going on in the investigation. what did you make of their testimony? >> that's a great question. of course, we have now seen from

several senior administration officials including the attorney general, including the director of national intelligence and a couple of others, this weird refusal to discuss the nature of their conversations with the president about whether the president tried to stop this investigation which, of course, is something that points to the question, and i do say the question of obstruction of justice. you don't get to refuse to answer a question to the united states congress unless you're claiming your fifth amendment rights or if you're claiming executive privilege. those are the two excuses by which you don't get to answer questions. >> they say the white house put them in a jam because they asked whether or not the white house wanted to exercise its immunity and they didn't hear back. >> if they didn't hear back, that means the white house is not exerting executive privilege. that's the way it's got to be. this idea that came up last week, i'm going to say nothing because i want to preserve the right of the president to invoke executive privilege, that means no one will answer a question

around here again. my point is, they have to answer those questions so we can come to understand how intense the president's effort was to stop or slow the russia investigation. >> congressman, appreciate your take on these issues. they all matter. thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you, cnn "newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers, we have new reporting and it is time to get after it >> i think it's important that the senate moves forward and passes health care reform. >> i can't imagine, quite honestly, i'd have the information to justify a yes vote within just a week. >> if we went and got the single greatest health care plan in the history of the world, we would not get one democrat vote. >> let us improve obamacare, but we're in the going to destroy it. >> there's great cause for concern in terms of jared kushner continuing to have a security clearance. we're a country of laws. let's go through the due process. >> we attributed the hacking

directly to the russian government. >> one individual in america to not accept this basic fact is the president of the united states. >> this is nude wiis nud"new da" >> we'll soon know what's in the senate republican plan to repeal obamacare. not even the president says he knows what's in it yet. >> meanwhile, president trump is back in campaign mode. he was on the trail, for lack of a better word, touting accomplishments and announcing new priorities. the president also making an eyebrow raising comment about his wealthy cabinet and advisers. we have it all covered for you. let's begin with cnn's suzanne malveaux live on capitol hill. what's the latest there, suzanne? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. the senate health care legislation has been shrouded in secrecy to the frustration of many republicans, even the key votes needed for it to pass.

that will change at 9:30 this morning. they'll get a chance to take a look at the legislation and have it unfold. cnn has gotten an early look at some of the plan which, of course, is subject to change. >> i hope we're going to surprise you with a really good plan. >> reporter: senate leadership hoping to appeal to both moderate and conservative republicans with a bill that is expected to phase out medicaid expansion starting in 2021, a year later than the house bill, and defund planned parenthood for one year which could be a deal breaker for two key republican senators. republicans can only afford to lose two votes since no democrat is expected to support the bill. >> they made it clear they're not interested in helping. >> this bill is mean, very mean. >> reporter: the bill is not expected to include the controversial house proposal that would allow states to decide on protections for people with pre-existing conditions. but the senate may allow for a new set of waivers that could

eliminate essential health benefits. there are still details we don't know about the bill that could decide its fate, including when obamacare taxes will be repealed, how much money will be allocated for high-risk pools and how the senate will calculate the distribution of tax credits, expected to be more generous than the house plan. already some republicans are expressing frustrations. >> i can't imagine, quite honestly, i'd have the information to evaluate within a week. >> reporter: whatever the final draft, senate aides say the republican leaders want president trump to stay far away from the negotiating, describing an earlier meeting as kind of a disaster. the president sounded hopeful at last night's rally in iowa. >> i've been talking about a plan with heart. i said add some money to it. a plan with heart.

obamacare is dead. >> reporter: the congressional budget office score is expected as soon as tomorrow, followed by senate debate. there are lots of changes that will be made. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell wants a vote on the legislation by the july 4th recess which gives little time for lawmakers or even the public to read or amend this bill. >> that's right. that could be a deal breaker for some of them. suzanne, thank you very much. president trump back in campaign mode last night celebrating election victories and making news with comments about hits cabinet and advisers. cnn's joe johns is live at the white house with more. >> reporter: it's been eight months since the' wleks night victory that sent dram here to the white house. last night republicans were celebrating a pair of house seat victories and elections just this week, putting the president

back into campaign mode, able to celebrate at least for one night on the road. >> all we do is win, win, win. we won last night. >> reporter: an energized president trump returning to the environment he loves the most, a campaign rally. >> it's always terrific to be able to leave that washington swamp. >> reporter: going after his favorite targets, the media and democrats. >> and they've been unbelievably nasty, really nasty. i am making it a little bit hard to get their support, but who cares? >> reporter: while touting his promised border wall. >> we're thinking about building the wall as a solar wall, therefore, mexico will have to pay much less money. that's good, right? >> reporter: president trump rallying his loyal supporters with this immigration proposal. >> those seeking admission into our country should not use welfare for a period of at least

five years. >> reporter: a rule that is already the law of the land and reiterating this rather vague concern about china's influence on north korea. >> i do like president xi. i wish we would have more help with respect to north korea from china, but that doesn't seem to be working out. >> reporter: the president also touting his wealthy cabinet picks before making this eyebrow raising statement. >> i love all people, rich or poor. but in those particular positions, i just don't want a poor person. does that make sense? >> reporter: only briefly mentioning the russia investigations hanging over his administration. >> they have phony witch hunts going against me. >> reporter: but mr. trump is silent about russia's interference in the 2016 election, an issue the white house continues to dodge when pressed for the president's position. >> i have not salt down and talked to him about that specific thing. >> reporter: a former homeland security secretary testifying

tuesday that evidence of russian meddling is undeniable. >> in 2016 the russian government at the direction of vladimir putin himself orchestrated cyberattacks on our nation for the purpose of influencing our election. that is a fact plain and simple. >> reporter: one of the president's lawyers has suggested this might be the week the president would reveal whether there are recordings of his conversations with the now fired fbi director james comey. so far no word on that. the president has suggested journalists will be disappointed with the answer to that question. chris and alisyn? >> joe, appreciate it. let's discuss. we have political analysts david gregory and john avlon and cnn chief political correspondent dana bash. we'll get to that in a second. we get the procession was secretive and we get that was opportunistic because they want to deliver on their promise to repeal and replace.

mitch mcconnell believes this is the best way. what does today bring? >> i think it starts to sharpen the debate, both within the republican party and then the senate overall. i think it's really interesting to try to understand, as i think some of the reporting and the discussion on the program this morning has gotten into, what is the strategy of leader mcconnell in terms of how he gets the votes and how he sells the plan? one big takeaway for me is there seenls to be a conflict on what the president says has got to be health care without a heart. he's described the house bill as mean. how is he going to square that with what the senate wants to do, which has been described this morning on the program as obamacare light, rolling back provisions that are in obamacare while retaining some of the more popular provisions. how is that going to work? that's that conflict between i think the president's reticents

about the party's desire to move forward and do just that to please a conservative base that thought it was too much government intervention to begin with. >> dana, help explain the math here of this bill. they can only afford to lose two votes and there are already three senators who publicly expressed being on the fence. so what's going to happen here? >> well, one of those three has said no way, no how, rand paul of kentucky. and a couple of others are getting close to that. the math is what it is which is what makes this such a cliff-hang cliff-hanger. i was up on capitol hill talking to some sources this week and noting senator mitch mcconnell is really the ultimate tactician. the years of covering him i was saying to sources i have a lot

of faith that he may have a series of rabbits in his hat that he's going to figure out. i was told maybe this time maybe not. maybe he doesn't know exactly how this game is going to end, how this game of cles is going to end which is usually what he plays. and the reason s&p because of the math, that he can only afford to lose two republicans, both sides of the republicans who have problems with a lot of the substance of what they're doing. but also, just on the pure politics of this, he has concluded that win, lose or draw, this has got to be dealt with, that the senate has to deal with it, much like we saw earlier in the year on the house side, that paul ryan said we just have to do it and he gave up for a short time. that that is the calculous of mitch mcconnell, that even if it

doesn doesn't, it will be bad, but worse would be not trying. another big headline, trump has a rally last night. trump taking a victory lap. he's done well. you can see these are republican districts, but they won and the democrat made a hard push and fell short. he said something last night that was met with applause that requires your consideration. listen to this. >> somebody said why did you appoint a rich person to be in charge of the economy? it's true. and wilbur is a very rich person in charge of commerce. >> i love all people, rich or poor. but in those particular positions i just don't want a poor person. >> this i feel should bother a lot of people, not in that room where they were applauding, that wilbur ross, know him, covered him, smart guy, competent choice. >> nice loafers.

>> nice loafers. he made a point last night that seemed to appoint some type of significance to weld that goes to competency that poor people wouldn't have. i was thinking, boy, i wonder what young, scrappy and hungry would think? alexander hamilton revolutionized government spending and never had two nickels to rub together. being wealthy is not bad. it's a virtue in america that should be applauded when done the right way. he's done the opposite. they rolled back dodd-frank and now he's saying i don't want poor people in certain positions. >> he's got the wealthiest cabinet in history. certainly a lot of -- the prospect of a populous billionaire is always tough to believe. but then you've got to go beyond the rhetoric to what policies he's implementing. there hasn't been a lot to try to shrink the gap between the rich and poor. as much as i wanted to hear you rap -- and i thought you were

going there. >> he's going there. >> let me see if i can stoke the fire. what donald trump basically said is alexander hamilton need not apply for a job in my cabinet. the man who invented america's finance system, our first treasury secretary was an immigrant who was dirt poor, hadn't had any financial success. i think that goes to show that's the wrong criteria for the cabinet, wrong criteria -- >> you guys are being awfully quaint with this notion. >> no. >> in our cap lift society wealth equals success. it just does. >> not always. >> it equals opportunity, advantage. it could have been handed to you. >> someone could have a check written to get into college. >> i'm saying that is the goal. that means these people have been -- i'm telling you -- i'm channelling how some of donald trump's voters feel, and that is these guys obviously have some sort of secret sauce and they want a part of it from somebody who has been wildly wealthy.

>> it's the equating of that with insight, expertise, virtue. if someone has been economically successful on their own, i.e., they haven't been given to them. the crowd in cedar rapids is eating it up. partly because it's a tribal environment. >> dana, my point is this -- you talk to different people and get lots of different opinions about it. but it was a big thrust, when trump was campaigning, what would he say to these people, the working class in general, i know these guys, i know how they make their money, they can't do that to me, i'll take care of it. instead he's surrounded himself with. now he's saying, poor people, i love them, but they're not as good as rich people when it comes to certain jobs. >> i went to trump rally after trump rally, definitely they're not monolithic, but i did hear

over and over again one of the things that were drawing trump voters to him was the fact that he made a lot of money or at least he says he made a lot of money. alisyn is exactly right, it was aspirational and that he didn't care, he was going to bust this place up, this place being washington and all of the above. that was a part of it. the president knows that and he was completely playing into that by talking about wilbur ross. i would bet that, if he were to do it over again, if you would put truth serum in his wheatity's and say, would you say it just like that, i don't need poor people? probably not. he was trying to make the flip side of that argument about the fact that he thinks that people who know how to make money, who have made money can be there. but i also think that alexander hamilton and others who are intellectually capable of understanding the economic

process. >> -- you have all kind of people designing your economic opportunity. >> the rich doesn't necessarily mean they're all one people. >> let me add one other point. i do think this is an example of overly interpreting trump. we've been around long enough in the trump presidency to watch him make these eye rolling statements that seem to be so offensive to people if they took it literally and some people will be offended on the merits of it. what he's basically saying is we're going to come in from the outside, we want to win. i'm going to get people who are winners from the private sector and they're going to bust up government and finally do that right. that's, a, not necessarily the case, and b, can probably turn a lot of people off. >> can we just for a second square the circle on this literal dichotomy. we can square the circle on that now that he's governing, now that he's actually president. where the rubber meets the road is what he's doing in terms of policy.

and where his policies keep sidestepping that rhetoric about taking it to the rich and powerful and special interest and instead feeding them and creating loopholes they can drive through, that's where we need to keep our actions focused. chris's point, because he's been surrounded by folks with a certain perspective, the rules and policies seem to cater to their interest. >> that's a good point. >> john, are you tired of winning? >> apparently he doesn't want to win anymore. that's my problem with avalon. >> understood. >> we're all exhausted from it. >> i feel that. thank you all very much. meanwhile, senate republicans are about to unveil their secret health care bill. what are democrats planning in response? senator ron wyden tells us next. t summer deals up to 40% off. visit booking.com. booking.yeah!

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details of the secret senate gop health care plan will be made public in just a few hours. senators on both sides of the aisle say they are frustrated about being kept in the dark, but president trump saw it differently. >> obamacare is a disaster. it's over, and there's nothing

to compare what we're doing. i think -- i hope, i hope the republican senate -- if we went and got the single greatest health care plan in the history of the world, we would not get one democrat vote because they're obstructionists. they're obstructionists. >> joining us now is democratic senator ron wyden of oregon. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> have you any sense of the meat of what's in this plan? >> look, here is what we're dealing with. senate republicans are playing with numbers, forgetting those numbers are people's lives. we're talking about, for example, a baby boomer who has had a stroke and needs nursing home care, special needs kids, disabled folks. what we know is this is going to look a lot like the house bill and is going to mean a lot of pain for millions of americans.

>> are you democrats in that case preparing some sort of rapid response team to react to this? what's your plan once it's unveiled today? >> yes, we are all in. our big job as i just indicated, is to actually make clear what this means for people's lives. for example, tomorrow a number of democratic senators are going to have a day of action in their home states. we're going to do it on the floor of the united states senate. we're talking to provider groups, particularly those in places like rural america. the house bill, we'll have to see what the senate does -- has something called an age tax which would mean if you're between 55 and 64, you would pay hundreds of dollars more in premiums for your health care. we're going to make clear what this means for people's lives. >> are you leaning on your senate colleagues, the republicans who have publicly stated that they may be on the fence about this. i'm talking about murkowski and

collins and rand paul. are you talking to them? >> yes. the fact is the senate republicans have now put themselves in a real vice. some of the senate republican conservatives who want to actually be meaner than what the house is talking about. then you have a number of republican senators who say that they care about medicaid. i worked with them. i worked with them on a bipartisan basis on health care and i sure hope they haven't ended up changing. >> senator, here is the confusing thing. if the plan is as bad as you foresee it, it doesn't make political sense. i mean it is political suicide for republicans to hang their hats on something that would hurt their constituents. their constituents voted to replace obamacare. they weren't happy with their choices. so it doesn't make sense they're going to deliver something the

way you describe it as being so pure any shows. >> remember, their constituency is especially the fortunate few. this legislation, again, based on the house, is likely to deliver hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts to the very fortunate. we're going to have to see the details, but when you talk about their constituency, certainly the fortunate few, the 1% based on the house bill would benefit tremendously. >> you know that's not president trump's base. you see all the big stadium-style events and rallies that he has. they're not what you're calling the fortunate few. >> that shows the gap between what he says at those rallies and what he supports. again, if you look at the house bill which he welcomed on the white house grounds, that had hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts for the wealthy paid for by hundreds of billions of

dollars in cuts, for example, in medicaid which accounts for two out of three nursing home beds. there's a big gap between his rhetoric out on the stump and the bills he talks about on the white house lawn. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about president trump's top adviser and son-in-law, jared kushner. there's some call for him to have his security clearance revoked because of the on going russia investigation. do you want to see his security clearance revoked? >> i'm following up on those questions. look, there are a lot of unanswered questions. i've asked, for example, the cia director, mike pompeo, about matters relating to what mike flynn learned in secret briefings. we have a lot of questions to get resolved. >> you're not taking a position yet on whether jared kushner's security clearance should be revoked? >> we don't talk about committee deliberations. i'll tell you i'm digging into the area. >> senator ron wyden, thanks very much for being on "new

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if we came to you and said, here's your plan. you're going to have the greatest plan in history and you're going to pay nothing, they'd vote against it, folks. i hope we're going to surprise you with a really good plan. i've been talking about a plan with heart. i said add some money to it. a plan with heart, but obamacare is dead. >> interesting choice of words from president trump after he originally celebrated the house gop's plan in the white house rose garden last month. do you remember that? so what changed? joining us, republican congressman chris collins from new york. good to have you with us. >> always good to be with you. >> what's the answer to that, the plan was great, it's the

best when he was in the rose garden. now he says it's mean, it notes heart. what changed? >> i'm not focused on that as well as i am with the problems with obamacare, it's failed. i was with the chamber of commerce last week, they lost 25% of members because they could no longer offer membersin to the membership. it's all about jobs and the economy. the fact is, chris, we promised to deliver on the repeal and replacement of obamacare. i do think the senate is getting very close. i understand everyone says it's going to be a nail biter next week, but we made that promise to america. they are suffering tremendously under obamacare with deductibles they can't afford. insurance rates going up in my district. 50% was just announced. so we have to do something, to use an adjective here or there,

i was certainly somewhat disappointed in senator wyden using words like mean. no one goes to work and says today i'm going to be mean. >> why are you putting it on senator wyden? that's what the president said. he said it's mean, it needs heart. how do you not focus on what the president is telling you about your own bill? >> because we are delivering to america on a promise me made to help, amongst other things, get the economy moving, deliver affordable health insurance that has deductibles where you can afford to fill your prescription and go to the doctor. i would not use those particular words, but we made a promise and it sounds like mitch mcconnell and the senators are about to deliver on that promise, and what we've said is, when en that bill comes to the house, that's what we're going to vote on. >> there's no question there are problems with the aca. i think there's fair room for

criticism with the democrats they ladd time to fix it. yes, you guys were in obstruction mode and it's hard to work together in d.c. and everyone plays to advantage. even now there's a lot of opportunities to get ideas out there because this process has been so constipated. when you say this is going to deliver on our promise, i did some digging into your district. i'll never know it as well as you do and your people there find you popular for a reason. if you pull the money out of the system the way you're planning to, it's going to hit your constituents really hard. you have a lot of people depending on that medicaid delivery money, and you know the state is not going to be able to match it with its own funds. what are you going to tell them? >> i don't want to on your show mall line your brother. >> go ahead. i do it all the time. >> in a $160 billion budget, what we're talking about doing, with mine and john faso's proposal that the counties will

no longer pick up the tab that's about $2.3 billion -- a little over 1.5% of the budget. on the rollback on the expansion, depending on where the senate bill ends up, that could be another 1.5%. our governor would have two years to figure out how to cut 3% out of a $160 billion budget for 20 million people. >> you're pulling a lot more money out than that, congressman. again, we'll see where it winds up. that's a fair point, it hasn't made it through reconciliation yet. the way you're doing it, through reconciliation there are certain rules. really all you can do effectively is suck money out. >> there's money coming out. >> there's a lot of money coming out that's going to hit the level of income participation that you have in your district. state is not going to be able to fix it. i don't think any state could. >> it would be very easy for new york. let's face it. florida has the same number of people of new york with an $80

billion budget. we have 160. i could argue we could cut our budget by 50% if we follow the florida model. >> let's be careful about the numbers because it gets so muddy so fast and we don't really know what they are yet. conceptually, if you're cutting the tax credit someone gets who is already struggling to make ends meet and you're cutting the amount of money that their state will get to help deliver them health care, how are you helping them? >> well, in fact, we are going to be giving them refundable -- advanced refundable tax credits. >> which is less than what they're getting now. >> to go to the market and perhaps buy the insurance from their local chamber of commerce. >> that's all i'm saying, it's less. any way you look at it, it's less. tell me how less will be more for your constituents. >> amongst other things, i believe you're going to see premiums coming down. there's significant problems with the way obamacare was structured. but i'm not agreeing with you

that it's going to be less. >> aren't the tax credits going to be less than the current allotment of the subsidy? >> it's going to depend on an individual's age, the size of their family, their income. >> arizona you get older and make less money, you're going to get less. >> in new york we have a one-to-one age rating. there's no problem on the older side in new york state. you cannot charge an older person anymore than you can charge an 18-year-old. >> the cbo said, as you get up into the 50s, those people because their health care costs get more expensive -- >> not in new york. >> -- that the reckoning is going to be that way. >> not in new york. we have a one-to-one age rating. you can't charge a 64-year-old anymore than an 18-year-old in the state of new york. an older person in new york is probably better off than anybody else in the united states of america. in my district and in new york state, it simply doesn't apply. >> you want to keep that protection, right? >> there's no question the

one-to-one rating will stay in new york. that's a decision by our legislature, the governor and the head of our department of health. >> and you favor it? >> i'm in favor of it, yes. >> as we get the details of what is in the bill, please congressman come back on. >> i'd like to do that. >> always appreciate you being on. important conversation. >> good to be with you. chris, capitol hill coming together again for a ball game. this time women took the field including one bona fide hero. the details next. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov

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we've ended the war on clean, beautiful coal, and we're putting our miners back to work were. in fact, you read about it last week. a brand new coal mine just opened in the state of pennsylvania. first time in decades. 33,000 mining jobs have been added since my inauguration. >> that was president trump touting some of his accomplishments at a campaign-style rally in iowa last night. let's dig deeper into some of the president's plans and fact check them. great to see you both this morning. okay. let's start with coal. because that's the much hyped issue whether or not the president can bring bab coal mining jobs and whether that's

even the right idea. he says that -- he has helped add 33,000 mining jobs, but, in fact, it's been 1,300. jason, according to the department of labor, 1,300 coal mining jobs have been added. why does the president say 33,000? >> you look at the mining jobs created and the mining jobs announced coming up, i think the president's pretty close to the pin in. >> i don't think so. it has to do, i think, also with oil and gas extraction. that's different. that they add 21,000 of the new positions were in oil and gas extraction industries. that's like fracking and stuff. that's different than coal mining, but he's lumping it all together. >> there are a lot of energy jobs created. again, that's part of, i think, the spirit and enthusiasm in this presidency of what we see -- >> sure, but energy jobs are different. that's the whole point. that energy job, different than coal jobs. coal jobs are the ones people felt we should be moving away from to newer energy jobs. but he's putting them all

together. it's false, basically. that is a false plan. >> alisyn, the president believes in energy. going back to the package you had there. one of the things we saw last night, enthusiasm that we saw with the crowd. we see with these jobs being created and the point he made about the war on war on coal being stopped is exact. it's a big deal in the administration and good for the economy. >> bakari what could you see in this? they are new jobs, they are in the energy sector. the president is making the point that we shouldn't run away from oil, gas, coal, we should run towards it. that's why he's using this big number. does it matter it's not all coal mining jobs? >> well, it doesn't really matter that it's not all coal mining jobs. the fact is, the president lied about the numbers, he lies about numbers all the time. we're used to that over the campaign trail and will be used to that throughout his presidency. 54,000 coal mining jobs in the

entire country. 54,000. that's it. more people work at whole foods than in coal mines jobs. i think the president has the wrong focus. i am more concerned about his poor policy focus than i am the fact that he lies about the numbers. we should be moving to a clean energy solution narrative. we should be moving to funding jobs that are in solar, in these clean energy alternatives that are glowing at a rate of 5-1, that will put these people who were in coal mines who no longer have jobs back to work. re reinvesting in policy points that don't work, moving away from as a country, as a world, no longer will be effective. >> jobs. talked about jobs how he's been able to appreciate jobs from going overseas. listen to this. >> unemployment is at 16-year low, and manufacturing is doing phenomenally and we have companies moving back. 's they're coming back.

back. back. back. >> jason, unemployment is about a 16-year low. that is true. lowest -- 4.3. that is fantastic this has happened on his watch. in temples jobs moving overseas, ford announced it will ship manufacturing of the ford folk toys china. other places still manufactures lots of things overseas. that doesn't seem to have changed. >> go back to what we saw after the president was elected when we saw the carrier deal he and vice president pence were able to put together. keeping those jobs, 700 jobs or so right there in indianapolis. what the president was speaking to last night, the fact we're seeing additional investment brought into the country and saw announcement after announceme during the transition and since the president took office, talking about foreign investment, jobs coming back in. you brought up the ford example. yes. also ford scamps, we've seen the president help influence

marketplace behavior keeping jobs here in the u.s. >> why can't he keep the ford focus from staying here in the yuz? >> she didn't have a magic wanted. if we want to keep jobs here and recruit additional jobs we have to get the corporate tax cut done. a big deal. why you see secretary mnuchin and ross and the president working so hard on this. that's critical. >> they already pay a low effective tax rate here in the country. the nominal rate is one thing. what they pay, much less than you hear from companies, two reasons we're sending jobs overseas. biggest is innovation. jobs are disappearing. right? about 80% of the reason. the rest, labor costs. >> and regulation. why you've seen the president take an aggressive focus on the executive order front on eliminating a number of these regulations. look what the president did teaming up in the auto industry executive orders signed in

michigan a few weeks back. we have to say the u.s. is open for business and if we cut that corporate tax we'll see countries redomiciling into the u.s. all around, from all over the world. >> bakari, a point of economic debate. right? what the relationship is between tax cuts and job creation. what is your point on this? >> well, i think this conversation is a bit absurd, all due respect. start with jason's first point. carrier deal. in the first part of the segment i said the president lied. the fact, there were 1,100 jobs the president touted he saves to carrier. 300-plus can jobs not moving to mexico. administrative job s rest are moving to mexico. it's not true they're not staying in the united states. half move before july the rest before christmas. the president lied to the carrier employees and the country. we're touting the bred for gpre

going to michigan and signing executives orders that won't bring back jobs. when the 44th president of the united states actually saved the auto industry and kept 2.4 million jobs. not 600 here or 1,000 there. i mean, the fooct is we'act is g up a the unemployment rate split in half. stock market going from 6,000 to the precipice of 20,000 and the president lambasted those numbers as fake? and i'm supposed to clab when he sahe -- clap when he saves 6,000 jobs? >> gentlemen, quickly. >> and very quick, the reason why president trump was able to win is because he was able to tap in to those voters who said you know what? finally there's somebody fighting for me. and so you might go and debate whether it's 700 or 1,100 jobs. for every job he saved those folks are thankful and the families thankful. >> obviously voters wouldn't have voted for inflating

numbers? >> they're happy what they're seeing so far. >> thank you, gentlemen, very much. following a lot of news this morning. including a preview of the senate health care bill. so let's get right to it. >> obamacare is a disaster. it's over. >> if you have a good bill, you don't need to keep it secret. >> a workingraph ining graph re >> health care is personal. it's not political. >> the russian government orchestrated cyber attacks for the purpose of influencing our election. >> it's not clear that president trump takes this seriously as the assault on america that it is. >> they have phony witchhunts going against me, and you know what? all we do is win, win, win. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning, everybody. welcome to your "new day." thursday, june 22nd,