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but that's the question. will they go against isis? that's not their top priority. >> barbara star reporting for us. that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett out front starts right now. >> outfront next breaking news, the white house facing a deadline to turn over a crucial document to investigators. trump is bothered by the friendship between bob mueller and james comey. but how close are they and why is he saying that? and another republican coming out against the health care bill, saying it is a lie that the bill will lower premiums. let's go out front. >> i'm erin burnett. out front tonight the breaking news, we are waiting and waiting and waiting. the deadline has passed and still we are waiting for the white house to turn over crucial documents to house intelligence committee investigators tonight. they could do so at any moment. investigators have demanded formal notification from the white house that there are no
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recordings by anyone at the white house of conversations between president trump and fired fbi director james comey. tonight so far silence. today also the deadline for fired fbi director james comey to turn his explosive memos over to house investigators. so far no word he has complied as sean spicer held another press briefing today, away from the cameras. spicer asked whether president trump believes that russia meddled in the 2016 election after the president tweeted earlier this week, referencing it as a democratic hoax. spicer gave this answer. >> he commented i think it was january 5th or 17th, something like that, on that at the time. and he said russia probably interfered but maybe some other countries did as well. >> that comment was stunning on several fronts. obviously today is friday. three days ago spicer was asked about the same question because
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of that hoax tweet. he answered this. >> i have not sat down and talked to him about that specific thing. >> so he went from having not talked to him about it, no idea what the president thought about whether russia interfered with the election to saying the president thinks it was probably russia. now, that's not obviously definitive, and this is a question with a definitive answer. >> this was an aggressive action taken by the senior leadership inside of russia. >> russians definitely did try to influence the campaign. >> i think russia was involved in the election. there is no question about that. >> i don't think there is any question that the russians were playing around in our electoral process. >> that's at least four members of trump's own administration, who concur with the definitive conclusion of 17 u.s. intelligence agencies. spicers comments is also stunning because he's referencing something as you heard the president said in january. the question that we have is this. are we supposed to ignore what he said in the months since?
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>> could have been china. could have been a lot of different groups. if russia hacked, if russia did anything having to do with our election, i want to know about it. >> if, if, could have been china. jeff zeleny is out front tonight at the white house. and obviously the deadline for the white house to inform congress about tapes has passed, but i believe you have some breaking news on this right now. >> reporter: i do. literally moments ago we got a copy of a letter that was sent from the director of legislative affairs here at the white house. he is the person who deals with the house and senate on capitol hill. he sent a letter to the house, the chairman of the intelligence committee and the ranking members as well essentially quoting the president's tweet. it says this. let me look at it right now. i'm just getting this erin. we referred you to president trump's june 22nd, 2017 statement regarding this matter. that statement was on twitter.
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it said with all of the recently reported intelligent electronic surveillance, intercepts unmasks leaking of information, i have no idea whether there were tapes or recordings of conversations with james comey. but i did not make and do not have any such recordings. so essentially at the end of the working day here in washington, erin, the white house simply cut and paste the president's tweet from yesterday to the house intel chairman and ranking democratic member saying that the president does not have copies of the tape. but that is not what the committee asked, of course. the committee asked if anyone here at the white house has a tape. but again this is something that officials across the government and certainly here at the white house have been telling us for several weeks. they do not believe tapes exist. they are not sure why the president tweeted this in the first place and a top republican i talked to yesterday said, look, this is a big mistake this president made. but again tonight the white house is responding to the house not offering any new information
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on the evidence of these tapes, erin. >> and just to underscore a point you just made there, jeff, thatanswering the question that was asked. they missed the technical deadline and what they submitted was a copy of a tweet from yesterday. they waited to miss the deadline and put that out. >> they could have done it this morning and this didn't come from the white house counsel's office. was this building, was the administration taping in any way. this is a letter from the head of the legislative affairs office like literally it's a two paragraph letter i just read to you, erin. it is cutting and pasting the tweet the president sent far more than 24 hours ago. >> thank you very much. we're going to get response from congress in a couple of moments about that. also tonight an explosive report from the washington post detailing the hacking efforts by russia, the ones the president cavalierly referred to as a democratic hoax and that sean
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spicer was trying to clean up today. jessica snyder is outfront. >> a few report reveals vladimir putin gave direct orders to defeat hillary clinton and help elect donald trump as president. according to a bombshell report by the washington post, the obama administration knew putin was directing cyber attacking during the 2016 campaign three months before the election. intelligence obtained from deep inside the russian government was couriered by the cia and detailed putin's involvement in the hacking. >> when you go back, this was a moving picture. it is not like we had an immediate clear snapshot of what the russians were up to. it e vvolved over time. it looked like they were trying to basically interfere in the election, mostly by creating doubt about our institutions. >> former deputy national security advisor to president
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obama defended the administration's strategy to keep the information quiet. >> as we were deliberating this, we thought the more we play this up in public, the more we play their game. we create further doubt by making this into a big public matter. >> but a former senior obama official felt differently telling the post it is the hardest thing about my time in government to defend. i feel like we sort of choked. >> president obama reportedly issued a stern warning to putin in september. and the post details obama's authorization to plant cyber weapons, so-called digital bombs in russia's infrastructure that could be used to retaliate. but obama left office before the planning was complete. lawmakers are questioning why more wasn't done to stop the russians or alert americans. >> i greatly admire president obama. i wish he and the administration would have acted differently here. what's important now is we know what they did. >> when it comes to the russia probe, today is the deadline for
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the house intelligence committee to get those memos from james comey. we know at this point tonight erin, the moment mows have not been turned over to the committee. although the ranking member has said he's been in touch with james comey and he does expect at some point to get those memos. but just not yet. >> thank you very much, jessica. and i want to find out more about those memos in a moment. now, though out front the top democratic. congressman, good to have you with me. i appreciate your time. so we just got the letter here from the white house. they missed the deadline. they submitted it at 7:00 eastern. and they copy in the president's tweet from yesterday in which he says that he does not have any tapes and has no idea whether there are tapes. what's your response? is this an acceptable response from the white house? >> well, it's typical donald
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trump. he's saying a million different things. you are contradicted by your own people and then you go round and round. you tweet. your people contradict you. it's pretty clear that there is an attempt by this white house to prevent congress from getting the material it needs, preventing the american people from knowing what really went on. and this is just part and parcel of it. you say they missed the deadline. they're better off having it go into the weekend because less people read on saturdays. and, so, this is just one attempt after another to hide things and not come clean. and frankly, the president's people trying to clean up after him. you know, yes, we have tapes. no, we don't have tapes. who knows. >> they literally say, here's his tweet from yesterday. and in that tweet he says i have no idea whether there are tapes or recordings of my conversations with james comey, but i did not make and do not
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have any such recordings. adam schiff has said just because the president said he doesn't have tapes, that doesn't mean someone else at the white house may not have them. so is this answer from the white house even definitive, right? the question wasn't just that the president had tapes. it was does the white house. is it worth continuing down this line of inquiry or is that just a wild goose chase. let's forget about this whole, sad story. >> i don't think we should forget about it at all. it's typical of trying to hide behind words. why did the president in the first place raise the first spectrum of tapes. it was never thought of. he's the one that said that comey better be sure or that comey better watch out, there may be tapes or however he phrased it. you cannot get a straight answer from this white house. when they finally give you an answer, you look for cracks in it because they're trying to slip between those cracks time and time again. >> why do you think he did it? why do you think he raised the
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issue and let it go on for 41 days? >> i think that the president just tweets whatever he thinks of. i think his staff must be pulling their hair out of their head because they then have to use the next several days and weeks and months to clean up after him and so it goes again and again and again and i just think it's disgraceful. it is not being straight with the american people and it's really shameful. >> we know that former fbi director comey obviously is working with bob mueller, providing the memos. we know he has talked to congress. but obviously there is a deadline for him to provide those memos to the house intelligence committee as well tonight. he has also not done so. five hours left. should the committee subpoena those memos if they don't get them? >> i think the committee should. i think congress is entitled to know everything and it would be preferable for congress to get it through normal channels. but if not, i think it should be
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subpoenaed. absolutely. >> the question -- i don't know if you heard the top of our program, but obviously he's been far from definitive about whether he believes that intelligence officials say it is a fact, that russians hacked the election. sean spicer today answering the question, brought out by a tweet saying, no, the president stands by his comment from january in which he said that he thinks russia may have been involved. obviously since then he said it could have been china and he's used the word if when he talks about russia's involvement. do you think the answer from sean spicer today is acceptable, that the president stands by what he said in january. >> it is not acceptable. you don't have to be a scholar to know russia hacks our election. it is quite simple and obvious to everybody else. the questions that we want to know is was there collusion with the trump campaign in terms of hacking our election. i mean, that's what we really want to know. and what have they done since then? have they tried to cover it up? mr. comey said that they were
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trying to shut him up. so that's what i want to know and that's what the american people want to know. but it shouldn't be a doubt in anyone's mind. russia certainly hacked into our elections. certainly tried to elect donald trump over hillary clinton and certainly tried to undermine american democracy. that's not a question. >> so what you just heard of course in the report, which is talking about the washington post's original report, they said, right, president obama was one of just four people who were told about vladimir putin's involvement and how serious this was early last august, that there were so-called cyber bombs that have been planted in the russian infrastructure as a result of this. but in the end, president obama only approved what the post called a, quote, modest package from sources in terms of the retaliation against russia. and you just heard a former senior obama official who was involved in those deliberations say, it was the hardest time to
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defend. i feel like we sort of choked. did president obama choked? >> well, i don't know if he choked. but i will tell you the response now that we know what we know is certainly disappointing. i think that this is a very serious attempt by the russians and by keeping quiet. i think president obama allowed the russians to pursue their goal. it is very disappointing and i don't know if it's choking, but it's certainly in my opinion not doing what should have been done and that is letting the american people know that our free election was in jeopardy because of russian nonsense and russian hacks. i think that it was a mistake not to go public on it. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman. good to have you with me. i appreciate it. next president trump questioning whether special counsel bob mueller and his team are biassed against him. >> the people that have been hired are all hillary clinton
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trump is considering firing special counsel bob mueller, spicer said this. >> nothing has changed on that. he has no intention of doing that. >> now listen to what the president of the united states himself actually said. >> well, he is very, very good friends with comey, which is bothersome. but we're going to have to see. >> we're going to have to see. tom foreman is out front. >> reporter: for president trump, the special counsel's probe of special ties between the white house and the russians comes down to two words, witch hunt. and his complaints start with the investigative team robert mueller's assembly. >> the people that have been hired are all hillary clinton supporters. i mean, the whole thing is ridiculous, if you want to know the truth from that standpoint. >> reporter: mueller, who was fbi director under bush and obama has a stellar reputation. he has pulled 13 lawyers into
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his team. they have vast experience investigating terrorism and white collar crime and using federal records cnn has so far identified three who have donated money overwhelmingly to democrats. more than $50,000 since 1988. he gave tens of thousands to help democrats campaign for the white house, senate and house of representatives. >> these are bad people. >> bad people? >> bad people. >> and trump surrogates such as former speaker of the house newt gingrich are going after them tooth and nail. >> miller, i have no doubt he is going to do his best. but he is surrounding himself with a collective group of people that are going to engage in a witch hunt. >> the president's supporters have raised questions about mueller's close relationship with one person deeply entrenched in the russian story, the fbi director trump fired, james comey.
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>> i know bob mueller very well and believe he is one of the finest public servants this nation has seen. >> their relationship goes back decades, giving some critics for reasons to question mueller's leadership of this investigation. >> should he recuse himself? >> well, he is very, very good friends with comey, which is very bothersome. but he's also -- we're going to have to see. >> we haven't been able to figure out quite yet if any of these people did work directly with hillary clinton as the president has suggested at times. but we do know this. the president has said about mueller that he thinks he's an honorable man. at the same time, this president has gone after even judges and accused them of bias when he hasn't liked their rulings. here is something else we will have to see. will he accept the findings of the special counsel if they go against him. >> absolutely. of course he said plenty of nice things about jim comey, too, until he fired him.
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thank you very much, tom. i want to go now to michael zeldon because he knows robert mueller. also with us former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security and david gorgam. >> let me start with you because you know bob mueller. trump obviously questioning his integrity, questioning his team, questioning his friendship with jim comey and whether he could do his job. is it going to impact the investigation? >> it shouldn't. it won't really impact bob mueller. bob mueller is going to look at the facts and look at what the evidence based on those facts tells him and he's going to make a decision. it is not going to be a political decision. he is not a political guy. he is actually registered as a republican, but that doesn't make one bit of difference for the way he'll behave in this case. it is what does the facts say, what is the conclusion you have to draw from those things. >> it is interesting, though. trump is raising a couple points here that are worth running
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down. okay? one of them the donations. you just heard tom's report. giving tens of thousands of dollars to democrats. there are at least three members of mueller's team that have donated almost exclusively to democrats. two of them to hillary clinton last year. does trump have a point to say that this objection -- investigation, i'm sorry, may not be objective? >> not really. i mean, look, there is the facts of the contribution, which you can't deny and they are asserting their preferences during the election. but whether you would say every attorney who has given to a campaign can't therefore be objective in an investigation that isn't just about trump. this is about potentially, not just russia's involvement with the election but other people, mike flynn, jared kushner and others. so i understand why trump is doing this, because he wants to create an atmosphere, but the idea that lawyers that contribute can't be objective is sur rail and the suggest or
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taking it one step further would be no lawyer can ever contribute to a campaign which would include trump's own lawyers. >> michael, let me ask you the question when it comes to bob mueller. do you think he is aware of this and doesn't mind the optics of it in terms of these donations? they could leak out some of their lawyers have given to republicans if they have. we aren't aware of it. >> actually, there is a report out there. there is giving on both sides. however, i think that the point is better understood that politics really does not play a role in an independent counsel investigation. on my investigation, we had both democrats and republicans. we were investigating george herbert walker bush in his administration. not one day was politics ever discussed and nor did it have any impact on our decision. i think that's going to be the case with mueller. these are professional prosecutors, professional lawyers. they will make their decision on
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facts and evidence and not where they made a contribution a year before or two years before. >> so we have not talked about the political part of this. now let's talk about the other point trump raise t. comey and mueller are friends. we found an article talking about their long friendship. here is some of their praise for each other. >> i have had the opportunity to work with jim for a number of years in the department of justice, and i have found him to be a man of honesty, dedication and integrity. >> he was very supportive to me personally. he's one of the finest people i have ever met. >> i want to note he did support trump for president, but he says this is a very clear issue. here's how he put it. >> the problem with bob mueller being involved there is he's got a 25-year close friendship with jim comey. i mean, what's that about? that's a clear conflict of interest if he goes there and looks at comey's activities
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while he was director. >> does the president of the united states have a point on this friendship, david? >> no, no. i think this is nonsense. listen, six different presidents have appointed bob mueller to high positions in the u.s. federal government. four of those presidents have been republicans, starting back with ronald reagan. he is there by the selection of donald trump's own deputy attorney general. this was a call by the trump administration, and it turns out that mueller was actually in to see the president before this was announced. so they had great faith in him when this all started. this is nothing more than a preemptive strike against the investigatory body in order to discredit it, if it comes up with evidence somehow indicts the president. but if it comes up and
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exonerates the president, they are are going to be full of praise for his objectivity. >> are you concerned they will cast doubt on this investigation by raising these issues they have done and comments by newt gingrichs every day. >> that's the strategy. there is a bipolarity to the strategy. on the one hand you say mueller is an honorable guy and you hope he comes up with an honorable solution. on the other hand, they say he's biassed. so they are trying to play it both ways. i don't think it is a wise legal strategy. i think they would be better off letting it be and letting mueller do what he does. but the other thing is the supposition that they are very good friends and therefore it is going to impact their determinations, i don't know if that's actually proving to be the case. i think they are professional friends, not very close personal friends and professional friends are quite different relationships than personal friends and i don't think it is going to make a difference to
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lose medicaid. that brings the number to five of gop senators against the bill right now. they could afford to have two of them vote no and have the bill still pass. they could only afford to lose two of them. ryan, you know, this is an interesting and important affection, right? because heller specifically said medicaid is his reason, that it became too hard for him to get to a yes because of the people that would lose medicaid in his state. this is a drastic proposal in the program. what else is in there? >> yeah. and the cuts to medicate are very specific and they're the most dramatic and that's one of the reasons you are seeing senators like dean heller will uncomfortable with this bill going forward. there is three areas i want to point out for you that senators are uncomfortable with. the first is medicaid expansion, which was a big component of obamacare. and what this bill calls for is completion reduction of the medicaid expansion.
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it also turns medicaid funding into a block grant for the states, which does give states more flexibility. democrats are concerned because that could mean specific programs could be cut at the state level. and then finally this senate plan in particular calls for a deeper and long-term cuts to medicate and erin, medicaid is a bedrock federal entitlement. it is something that politicians don't normally mess with, which is one of the reasons that this bill is so controversial. >> and he spoke to leadership and the vice president of the united states this morning. so they had a chance to try to persuade him and they tried and they failed and he went to his press conference and came out and said no. what exactly is the plan here? if he had a conversation with the people in charge of convincing people to get on board and they failed? >> i don't know if maybe this bill is in as much trouble as people are saying because when you look at the five senators
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who are involved in this plan you can see a situation where you could get enough of them back over on the side of supporting this bill and it could still get through. these four conservatives are in a block altogether and dean heller is a vulnerable senator in a purple state. perhaps that's the vote that mitch mcconnell lets go. maybe that's his long-term plan. >> all right. thank you very much. and let's go now to rick san tor rum, former senator from pennsylvania and democratic strategist and political commentator. republican senator, obviously emphasis here, purple state going to be up for re-election. he's got specific issues facing him. but he says he cannot vote for the bill because it is going to hurt too many of the poor in his state. is this bill in the senate too mean? >> no. i mean, first off, i'll disappointed the president said it was mean because, number one, i don't think the house bill is mean and it sets up a false narrative going into this, that
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this is some sort of mean bill the senate has created. this bill is not too dissimilar from the standpoint of medicaid as to what republicans did with president clinton on welfare reform. that's something i was involved with 20 years ago. we took welfare, which was a federal entitledment, had been around for 50 years, and we made it into a block grant. it has been the most successful reform that we've seen. and it worked. the states love it. the governments love it. >> that's the funding bill replacement, yeah. >> so this is a pattern we've seen before. it worked. it works well. so i understand why dean heller, he's in a tough re-election and probably one of the guys you do let go and don't have to vote for, but the idea of transforming medicaid into a block grant is something they should be very excited about. >> paul? >> yeah, they should be. they should be excited. the president is exactly right. it is not just mean, it is savage. it is a tax cut bill.
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it is a tax cut bill. cuts taxes, a trillion dollars for the well thinkiest people in america. then to pay for that or pay for some of it, they're going to kick millions of people off medicaid. two-thirds of everyone in nursing homes in america is paid for by medicaid. 49% of the births is paid for by medicaid. so this is the republicans dream. this is why they become republicans, to kick some kid out of his wheelchair. >> paul. >> that's the point of being a republican, right? >> you very well know the cuts that are going to be happening to the medicaid program are not the disabled or elderly. they are in the basic medicaid program. the cuts that are being talked about are to take the people who were added by obamacare, who are able-bodied, in many cases working people who couldn't find reasonable prices on the obama exchanges so they were dumped into the medicaid program.
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we've taken those people, put them back out in the private markets. medicaid should be for the exact people that you're talking about. it should be for the elderly, disabled and for folks who are single moms who are having children and are poor. that's what medicaid was designed to do. it should do that. and those who are able-bodied, the working portion should not be on medicaid. we should have a better system in the private market. >> those folks have been paying into medicaid all their lives and we're going to kick them off. this is savage. it's the epitome of modern republicanism and the president for once committed the sin of candor. it is mean. >> first off, paul -- >> it is why only 16% of americans like this idea and that's going to go home as they are confronted by the people who they're going to be kicking out of nursing homes and off of their health care. health care that they paid for.
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>> just to be clear, we're not taking anybody out of nursing homes, number one. number two, you said people have been paying into medicaid. taxpayers don't pay into medicaid. they pay into medicare. and again, the focus of this is to make medicaid for what it is supposed to be, which is exactly the people you talked about and take the working poor and put them in the private sector where they belong. >> so if you are in a nursing home, probably give them one of those cold jobs that trump says we're going to bring back or take that child on an inhaler and put her to work in a factory. this is taking the most -- >> that's not true, paul. >> by the way, one of the taxes they cut, erin, you come out of the financial reporting area is an investor tax that the wealthiest investors pay. this was put on the books 7 years ago. how has the dow done? it has skyrocketed. we don't want to hurt the investor class, but why do they
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need a tax break when stocks are going up and have been up going up for years, thank you, barack obama, and we're going to give them a tax cut in order to hurt people on medicaid. >> taxes could have gone down. that is an interesting point to make. rick, can i ask you the bottom line from your perspective? are they going to get the votes? because some of these people, i just want to make this point, they're noes but not really knows. ted cruz is not going to say, i'm not going to vote for it. but i'll say take him off. they could afford to lose two. if you gave hem heller, are you sure they're not going to lose one more vote. >> i suspect the ones they're most concerned about collins, makowski. >> planned parenthood and medicaid. >> right. the other four are four that in the end should be voting for this bill if, you know, if they can -- i don't know what particular provisions, but i wouldn't think that they want to
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go back to their home states, ted cruz is up for re-election this year and talk about how they weren't able to deliver on the central premise of the campaign. >> thank you. and next president trump pushing for a border wall and he's got a new idea. he's very proud of it and guess what? we've got the facts to test it out. a u.s. ally put on notice. the breaking response this hour. look closely. hidden in every swing, every chip, and every putt, is data that can make the difference between winning and losing. the microsoft cloud helps the pga tour turn
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new tonight president trump turning to the sun to pay for his wall. it might be a better chance than mexico. the president saying solar panels could pay for the border wall and he says he came up with the idea but it is not exactly the whole story. sara went out to the field to find a story you'll see only outfront. >> reporter: when president trump said this. >> we're thinking about building the wall as a solar wall. >> thomas thought mission accomplished. >> i'm happy. we've done what we wanted to do. >> pretty good imagination, right? my idea.
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>> as for the idea, at least two companies actually proposed it months ago when the trump administration made an all call for companies to send in their border wall designs. thomas gleason, a vietnam veteran and small business owner bid in april, sending photos and details of exactly how his solar wall would work. >> what's the selling point? >> he gets to build the wall because it pays for itself. >> sound familiar. >> so it creates energy. and pays for itself. >> how? >> the benefit is is there is going to be a demand for the electricity, even if there isn't a city within 50 miles. >> it would take 20 years of producing power if for wall to pay for itself and showed us what a partial section would look like. >> how would you describe what it would take to get through it? is it possible, virtually impossible? >> it is going to take an 18, you know, kind of crew. they're going to have to be talented. >> he says that's because this
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is just one layer of the wall. the base would be six feet of concrete, filled with rocks and sand. then steel wire mesh. then the solar panels, followed by more steel wire mesh and at the top a pivoting ceiling of more solar panels. >> could someone scale this. >> well, go ahead. stick your fingers in that. >> i can't. >> there is no shortage of sun along the u.s./mexico border. he says each mile of this solar wall would power up to 400 homes. the government has yet to pick its top proposals. so far congress has not allotted funding for the wall. president trump's border wall proposal has garnered plenty of controversy and gleason has gotten his share from making a bid. he's lost a client and a close friend who was mexican american, telling gleason he'd be helping divide americans.
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>> i'll get it back. >> but if he did get the bid, he estimates it would cost about $7.5 million per mile. spread that out across the entire u.s./mexico border and it is a $15 billion price tag. erin. >> all right. thank you very much, sara. of course $15 billion. some said it would be $25. maybe it is a bargain. will trump intervene. and anthony bourdain serves up trinidad.
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that's what motivates me. i want to see patients have gray hair. i see myself growing old with my pink hair. that to me, is enough to keep going. breaking news. the white house weighing in on a major diplomatic crisis. press secretary sean spicer saying the u.s. is willing to facilitate discussions, but staying out of the qatari crisis for now. this comes as saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, egypt, and ba hhrain are giving qatar ten days to comply with a list, which say qatar must cut all military and intelligence cooperation with iran, shut down al jazeera worldwide, and cut ties with the muslim
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brotherhood, isis, and al qaeda. eric pelosi served in the obama administration and thanks for being with me. an area you know a lot about. the qatar ambassador to the united states just told "outfront," and i want to quote him, he said the list clearly indicates this dispute is not about their false terrorism allegations, but an attempt to sup mess free media and freedom of speech, as well as infringe upon our sovereignty. it's defiant. are these demands d.o. snampa.? >> this is certainly from their perspective the mother of all lists. it is a very tall order they're asking for. whether it's d.o.a. or not, the ambassador is trying to throw one broadside across the bow of the saudis as a way of giving some space for his government to respond on a much higher level. but i think it's likely to push
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the saudis to escalate. >> and some of them have said the more unreasonable they are made to look, the more they are going to dig in their heels on this issue. and some of this may be unreasonable. there are some core questions here. one of them that matters to all americans is whether qatar is financing al qaeda and isis. i traveled to doha to report on one qatari citizen. he was designated a global terrorist by the u.s. treasury after our report. and you and your colleagues just recently investigated and found that he was acquitted in qatar for terror finance. what are they doing now? >> you're absolutely right. you've been on this story from the very beginning. it is something that goes to issues that the american people ought to be very focused on. the threat of providing
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financing to these find of terrorists is very serious. this guy that you were referring to is troubling. there's another person that was identified in 2008 by the u.n. this is not just the united states, it's the u.n. and all 50 members of the security council agreed to list him. and then in 2015, they went back and updated. they showed in that update all members agreed to this that he, after being convicted and released, and then put under surveillance, was still doing financing for terrorism. so there is a core issue here that needs to be addressed. whether the mother of all lists should be the list that is used to resolve the crisis is another thing. but we have issues here that are important to the united states. >> eric, thank you very much. eric pelofsky. next, we'll go to trinidad
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having to dance or sing in public of the either of these would be terrifying. so this seems like a situation where that might come up. >> and anthony is with me now. so how did that dancing and singing go for you? >> i managed to neatly avoid it. they do something there called whining. i guess it's the twerking family. everybody does it, and it looks really salacious. >> it's like a hip and butt move? >> a lot of grinding. i'm terrified of dancing. serious. i've never been to mardi gras, the prospect of dancing in public is terrifying to me. >> anybody try to whine with you? >> no, i evacuated immediately leaving my crew to the tender mercies of the whiners.
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whining, i wining, i'm very good at. >> this is an interesting place. it's very caribbean, but it's not the caribbean a lot of americans go to. there's so much culture there, you talk about all that. here's one of the meals you ate. >> a take on an indian dish. two floppy tender pieces of indian bread with pepper sauce and mango with curry. structurally, i have questions here. i don't want seepage. that's never good. >> how was the food sh >> really good. among the best, if not the best in the caribbean. and they know it. they're happy to tell you that. very spicy, strong indian influence. a lot of chilies, essential with every meal, but really, really
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good. >> looking forward to this. anthony bourdain "parts unknown" will air this sunday on cnn. don't miss that, and i miraculously changed outfits. you can watch us anywhere, any time on cnn. have a great weekend. anderson is next. thanks for joining us. tonight, a new report is painting a dramatic picture of russian attempts to influence the 2016 election, revealing the cia learned that vladamir putin himself was directly involved in the cyber campaign to influence the u.s. election. the report is in "the washington post." it calls rushirushia's efforts influence the election the crime of the century. but keeping them honest, it seeseem -- doesn