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>> a new report reveals russian president gave direct orders to defeat hillary clinton and help elect donald trump as president. >> that is close as a bomb shell internal if you will. >> there is no evidence of collusion. >> another republican senator says he cannot support the health care bill. >> i cannot support a piece of legislation that cuts millions of americans. >> i think they'll probably get there. we'll have to see.
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this is "new day" weekend. >> always so glad to have you with us on a weekend. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. let's start with the big stories that president trump is juggling this morning. first russian hacking allegations and the vote also on his signature health care bill. that seems to be drowning in the senate. in about two weeks the president could be standing face to face at the g 20 meeting in germany. >> this is a stunning report suggesting president obama knew about moscow's attempt to hack the u.s. elections but didn't do enough to stop them. president trump quick to jump on that. listen. >> well, i just heard today for the first time that obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he didn't do
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anything about it but nobody wants to talk about that. the cia gave him information on russia a lock time before they even -- you know, before the election. and i hardly see it. it's an amazing thing. to me, you know, in other words, the question is if he had the information why didn't he do something about it? he should have done something about it. >> mean wheel more skeptical senators weighing in on the republican health care plan. right now it doesn't look like it has enough votes to pass the senate. one says it's simply not the answer. first, however, we want to begin with the allegations that vladimir putin may have ordered hacking of the u.s. elections. michelle walks us through what's happened. >> reporter: a bomb shell report. starkly laying out the u.s. intelligence community's case for russia's meddling in the
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2016 election and revealing it was directly ordered by vladimir putin. intelligence sources had captured putin's own instructions to disrupt and discredit the presidential race. the cia delivered in august. they revealed the frustrations now among some of them that more was not done to punish russia. quoting one, it's the hardest thing about my entire time in government to defend. i feel like we sort of choked. they say the administration was worried about appearing to try to influence the election themselves as well as provoking lush sha. one explained our primary interest was to prevent them from doing the max they could do. and after the election some of the harsher options for
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punishing russia, sweeping sanctions. some defended the obama administration. >> maybe the judgment was wrong. maybe we should have done certain things that we didn't do, but given everything we were dealing with. given first of all the perception that russia's main objective, it motivated us to be careful how we played this in public. >> cyber weapons, controlled remotely. the white house says trump stands by his january comment that he thinks russia was involved in a hacking and has no plans to fire the special counsel overseeing the investigation robert mueller. despite trump expressing
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mueller's friendliness with james comey. >> it's bothersome but also -- we're going to have to see. >> trump also addressed why he alluded to having conversations with comey when in fact he had none. >> but when he found out that there may be tapes whether it's governmental tapes or who else and who knows, i think his story may have changed. you'll have to take a look at that because then he has to tell what actually took place at the event. >> but my question is what is president trump now doing to prevent russia from doing this again? >> this report is new. >> reporter: again and again -- >> i mean, what is he doing specifically to try to stop this? >> i realize we like to say the word russia, russia and i know cnn is aiding and abetting this
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question three times now. >> you're not answering. >> he has said very clearly that he wants the voter integrity and the ballot integrity to be protected. >> so on the investigations at the end of day friday the house intelligence committee was still waiting for james comey memos that they don't have recordings of the conversations between trump and comey. and now the senate judiciary committee wants information from the former attorney general loretta lynch to see if she might have improperly influenced the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. >> thank you. let's bring in eugene scott and i want to start with the president's comments to fox in which i wonder, does this now suggest that the president
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acknowledges russia's meddling in the 2016 election but only if he can blame president obama for the lack of action? >> it certainly looks like it. i think the question people need to know is what is the president going to do moving forward? it's easy to blame former president obama. but we had republican lawmaker on cnn saying that if the republicans don't do something about kwha russia has done immediately then the republican party could find itself on the receiving end on attacks from the russian government in upcoming elections. >> jill, president obama's russian ambassador said the punishment did not fit the crime. let's talk about the
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effectiveness of those sanctions that were announced at the end of 2016. have they deterred russia, jeopardized their willingness or potential to interfere? >> i don't think you can say they've had any influence on vladimir putin's decision to influence elengss, et cetera. it's financial pressure. there's certainly proof of that in the russian economy, but oil prices have been very significant too. so that's one step. i think the more interesting step and that's the question, is that second part about the cyber weapons that -- a program that president obama authorized and apparently began to be developed but wasn't certainly developed and wasn't implemented against the russians and those cyber weapons that have been described
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as bombs within the russian system not having been used. what will president trump do? will he continue to have that developed? will he perhaps use that as a bargaining chip? these are all very serious questions and as we pointed out at the beginning of the segment, president putin and president trump are expected to meet very soon at the g 20 meeting so there's a lot riding on this on many levels. >> let's turn to tony, the national security advisor and he says there are many who are judging the administration in mid 2017 on information they had back in 2016. let's watch. >> when you go back this was a moving picture. it's not like we had an immediate clear snapshot of what the russians were up to. we thought they were doing what they always do which was pull
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information. then it looked like they were trying to basically interfere in the election mostly by creating dou doubt. we create even further doubt by making this into a big public matter. >> the administration has been criticized by injecting politics here while on its face they seemed not to inject politics but the opposite happened. >> and i think he also worked hard to try to defend the idea that the obama administration did absolutely nothing which is what president trump suggested. we know there was the warning of the g-20 summit. we know the diplomats were disspelled from their compounds in the u.s. but i think the question, again, looking forward is even if the obama add money strags was not
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knowledgeable about the full extent of the russian interference but what are they planning for the 2018 elections and further. >> there was a response from the russian government, the show must go on. what did you make of that? >> reporter: you know, i think basically it was just saying the show is in kind of the circus goes on in the united states. i mean, that is what the russian administration has been saying now for quite some time that essentially this is all a lie. russia did nothing of the kind. know us the proof. and by the way, you have as president putin himself said, this kind of political schizophrenia drummed up by the media to bring down donald trump. so i think that that spokes person probably meant that, but
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it's a big circus. it means nothing. but i think there's a broader thing here, victor that when you look at this reporting and what it says it was kind of incremental. it was happening slowly and awareness was growing. it would appear now that you had not only the individual tactics like let's say hacking or this or that specific things, but there is a big program of a whole lot of different things they were using. hacking which is given to wikileaks. they were you had fake knews that's been generated in various places included in the united states. that gets sucked up into the vortex of social media around the world and it -- and also the use of psychological operations as was just noted to diminish faith in the american system. so it's much broader. and it does continue.
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>> and directed according to the washington post reporting by putin himself. jill is there for us in moscow and you gene scott. thank you so much. the math just got tougher. another gop senator says he cannot back this bill in its current form and he's got some harsh things to say about it. >> plus 120 people are missing after a landslide in china. we'll take you to the search for survivors right now. >> and the business owner says he cannot take down his flag even though it's dividing his community. >> never stopped there and don't plan to as long as that flag is up there. >> it's not hurting anybody. >> it needs to come down. you hear these stories
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so less than one week to go before the senate votes on the replacing obamacare. there are now five republican senators who say they cannot just support it. here are the faces that are saying that. some opposing, some expressing concern, but they can't support this in its current form. gop leaders can only lose two members in order for this bill to pass. >> senate d. heller facing a tough re-election in 2018. he talked about these issues with the bill in a news conference yesterday. watch this. >> i'm telling you right now i cannot support a piece of legislation that takes insurance away from tens of millions of americans and hundreds of thousands. you have to protect expansion in
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states. mach sure we're take p care of in the state of nevada. >> thank you for sticking around. good to see you. so who, eugene, does majority leader focus on swaying, moderates or on servetives? >> it seechls like the number of conservatives backing away is lightly larger. but the expressing concern is the big question mark we have. three senators there, why they have expressed concern haven't been focused on. i think that what we are experiencing and witnessing is something that we saw earlier this this bill and what we should have predicted before donald trump came to the white house. the republican party is more diverse on issues related to health care than some people think. getting all of them on the same page is appears to be a lot more
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difficult than poem thought it would be. >> if you like your doctor you can keep him. that was the buggest lie in health care. here's the second biggest lie. this bill passes, premiums are going down and there isn't anything in this piece of legislation that will lower your premiums. >> a republican senator saying it is a lie that this bill will lower premiums. any chance that they're going to get him to flip or any of these folk who is are saying no right now? >> i don't anticipate that heller is going to come to the table or even be one that mcconnell is focused on swaying because he's the most vulnerable republicans in terms of the 2018 elections. he really finds himself coming from a state where the people who elected him are those who promised that he would help
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repeal obamacare. one stepped back and so it puts them in a difficult position if he chooses now to walk away from a bill that would partially do that. but based on those comments that he made in that press conference he's really going to give democrats plenty of ammo to attack him on particularly with this bill which is unpopular with dozens of americans, it does lead to skyrocketing premiums. >> which brings to light is it about the content in this bill and the people that it affects. so i want to say mcconnell characterizes this bill as a discussion draft. those are his words saying that it will stabilize the markets, but let's talk about medicaid
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specifically this. is a plan that shows the phaseout. conservatives want to shrink the coverage. moderates want the kovrng. this obviously affects a lot of people. is there any flex bltd heibilit for middle ground. >> you have people who would like to see this bill look as different from the affordable care act as possible but like you said we have had this blue state that was devastated and saw the need for medicaid increase. look at the beak for more favorably and so they're coming from such different value systems and world views in terms of what their constituents desire most when it comes to health care coverage. >> the plan requires insurers to cover people with preexisting
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condition, however it gives an opt out option. so is it fair to say those preexisting conditions aren't mr.ly safe with this man? >> i hesitate to say yes or no because this is a complicated issue with the house passage of the health care bill. i mean, preexisting conditions is certainly something that a lot of people realize the importance of ensuring that patients with preexisting conditions are able to get health insurance and they're not paying extraordinary costs to get that cost. and so i think that's certainly something that's taken under consideration here and one that is going to be discussed going forward. we're likely to see a number of measures introduced by these conservative senators who came out opposing this bill last week. i know that senator lee would
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allow insureds to also offer unregulated plans. i know that ted cruz's office is working on something that would -- work on amending parts of the health care bill that was proposed last week so the bill that was released last week, this draft discussion is likely to undergo changes next week before july 1st. >> the cbo is releasing their score as well. how might that influence what happens? >> i think the democrats are going to hop on it. we know that republicans are probably going to say that the cbo got it wrong with the obama administration and it's an exaggeration. i think that people depending on the government for health care should be paying attention and reading up themselves and taking responsibilities for trying to
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a full plate this week. he probably has a full plate every week. the washington post linking that vladimir putin directly to the hackings of the 2016 election. also the gop health care vote that seems to be struggling in the senate. president trump is taking aim at former president obama questioning why his characterization here, the former president did not act on the russia administration. >> also, the gop may be voting on their health care plan in the senate thursday. their numbers are not in their favor at the moment. well, anderson cooper spoke with the reporter who broke the latest story and here's why they say this discovery was different. >> what happened in this case is that the russians not only were
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doing what they always do which is basically snooping around in the computer systems of all political parties but in this case they made a decision to basically take e-mails that they knew would be harmful to one side and inject them into the public through kw public. >> he also reported that it was putin himself who signed off on these attacks and they have evidence of that. >> right. i think that was really the most remarkable, dramatic moment if you will that we discovered which was basically the cia in either late july or very early in august gets very sensitive intelligence from a very reliable source of information. it's very rare for the cia despite a popular perception that they have information on everything, it's very hard for them to get putin himself, him
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spending in the future, bill cosby planning on hosting a series of town halls to teach young people about how to avoid sexual assault charges. there are a number of women's advocacy groups calling the idea outrageous and disgusting, this as to what really happened inside that jury room. >> reporter: the male juror that spoke out to cnn did so anonymously but told us that within that jury deliberation room it was a 7-5, 5-7 split almost continue wally from the beginning and the issue was understanding the law. they didn't know how to define reckless behavior on the part of cosby or unconsciousness or unreasonableness. he said it was a small room and the emotions started to build and in the end there were a lot
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of tears and offense there was deliberation on the fax. >> this thing was closed in '05. the district attorney over there, there wasn't enough evidence that the incident supposedly happened in '04 with andrea. it took her over a year to contact the home found police up in toronto. and -- and then no wonder she couldn't remember and the fact that he supposedly gave her pills which she took without asking any questions. an adult woman 31 years old, it's unbelievable. >> trial testimony shows that andrea's good friend was beginning to sell bath salts and that's why she took them at her request. she also did say on the stand that her top was one that showed a little bit of her midriff and
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that allowed cosby to touch her and she learned forward so he couldn't go any foorarther. and this jury says a lot of money was spent treating the jurors like royalty and the taxpayers shouldn't have to play that role again. >> joey, first of all, your reaction. >> reporter: my reaction is i think we need to do a better job, we, lawyers, the system of justice in two respects. i think number one, in defining the law and in giving examples of what the law means. the conscious disregard of a risk. well, what does that mean? well, when you're driving and weaving in and out of traffic you don't mean to hit someone but you could. the second thing we could do is
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we could encourage and many judges do and of course it's part of the legal instructions to say hey, do you guys have questions about anything? come back and speak to us not only about factual issues, but about the law too and they did ask for reasonable doubt, but now we come to find it wasn't only reasonable doubt they  wanted answers to but they wanted answers to all the other issues that gene talked about and i think we need to do that. the legislature defines the law and it is what it is but in terms of explaining it i think we need to do that. >> what do you think the prosecution learned in this case that it may do differently the second time around? >> the facts are what the facts are but there's something in the law and it means that you start out with a bang and you end with a bah boom. so i think what the prosecution will do is they might restructure the manner in which
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they presented their witnesses. there are some things to overcome when she reported it, the inconsistencies which she later said on the witness stand and later told other authorities in philadelphia. so they have some issues that they have to deal with. i think the manner in which they present it will be perhaps differently and i think that both lawyers, the defense and the prosecution will spend a little bit more time explaining the legal concepts. clearly that's the judge's job and often times when we say you learn about reckless, they say that's for me. but i think both sides will ask the judge to instruct the jurors as to what the law means and how it applies to the facts before them and i think they'll spend a lot more time on that. that's not to suggest that another jury might view it differently. you may have another hung jury or in fact, perhaps we'll have a jury this time. >> we understand the count was
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10-2. another attorney had said it can't be he said she said if he doesn't say anything and he believed that he needed to take the stand. how plausible do you think that is that bill cosby will get on the stand? >> i know paige, wonderful attorney. i do have a disagreement. number one the jury did hear from bill cosby. that statement was read to the jury. cosby gave a deposition. that was read to the jury and so indeed, cosby testified again and i think if cosby takes the stand, anything that he says on the witness stand that runs afoul of what he told police initially in 2005, i can't remember what i did last week. you're going to ask me what i did in 2005 or ning he said in a deposition is going to say you're lying.
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you're inconsistent. i think it would be a horrific idea for him to take the stand and final point, the defense needed to do what they had to do. i like paige, i just disagree with him. >> i have to you about this tour of town halls as it's being characterized that cosby is going to go on as we understand it from one of his pr folks who said that he's going to go teach young people about how to avoid sex assault charges. smart thing to do. how would you advise him when we know there's a second trial pending? >> that is is not going to happen. not the tour, but there's always what your lawyers believe to be in his best interest and i have to believe his lawyers are going, are you going to do that
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right now? you'll have victim advocates who are going to be there. you'll have the pushback and anything he says is going to be written down by the prosecution. so i think it's a disaster. from a legal perspective it's even worse and i think they'll have a meeting of the minds and they'll say let's just move on, lit's get to the other trial and let's see if we can get an acquittal this time. a jury has convicted a former football player in the gang rape of an unconscious woman. banks was found guilty on two charges in this 2013 assault. there was a group of football players who attacked a student in a campus dorm room. they found the men laughing during the assault. banks now faces up to 15 greers in prison. and more than a million
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closed captioning brought to you by only meso.com. welcome back. i was in central south carolina this week where there's a confederate flag flying high above a restaurant in the town of orangeburg. some customers hate it. others revere it.
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what does the owner of the business think about that flag? turns out it doesn't matter. >> reporter: this the flanked by two landmarks and each in its own way signifies exactly where you are. on the right a sign welcoming you to orangesburg south carolina. more than three quarters black. on the left, a confederate flag. this is right next to the creamery. by now you know the flag's divisive history and everyone in orangesberg has a flag at the ice cream shot. >> i never stop there and don't plan to as long as that flag is up there. >> it's not bothering anybody. >> it's needing to come down. >> and what does the owner of this restaurant have to say? that flag needs to be moved and
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if there's any possible way i can do it it's going to be done. >> but right now i don't want i you cant. >> tonight we're deadlocked. the south shall rise again. maurice bszing jer. founder after the chab of bbq restaurants, and in this 2008 interview he showed off his collection of memorabilia that filled his restaurants. he was a fierce defender of rights and segregation. he called the civil rights unconstitutional and the supreme court ruling that sbe gaited public schools a really bad decision. then in 2000 when this happened at the south carolina state capitol -- >> to protest the taking zoun of our heritage flag. >> he died in 2014.
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of if flags he wrote, there they will stay. i will fight on because this is what god wants me to do. a year after his death tommy and his wife bought the orangeburg location from the churn, but not all of it. >> before he died he sold a tiny bit of land, a little bit more than 3,000ths of an acre. >> weave be've been trying ever to honor the american soldier. >> he put it in the hands of people that he trusted because he loved his confederate ancestors just like we do. so there was nothing sinister. >> initially he accepted the flag and the nearby marker. weeks after the opening a group grew a larger shooting.
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roof killed nine church members after calling for a race war. >> all hell started after that. my phone was ringing off the hook. my employees were harassed. everyone in town seemed like it was my business and it's attached to this building. >> me personally and a lot of people i know will not shop here because of this. >> the battle for the flag rages on. >> that flag needs to be moved. the sons of the confederate veterans say they ear ready. >> the foreign for that ice cream shop's owner says the corner is zoned for commercial use. well, just a couple of days ago the city rejected that approach. the attorney says they plan to appeal and there's no question
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