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there. it was like this is getting into a weird place. take you to a weird place. >> my name is -- from policewomalabama. i'm challenging myself to -- out and experience all the culture and belief that add color to this country. this is quietyietd shades of am. after the first season of united shades of america i got suggestions of where to go. people tweeted things like -- i bet you wouldn't go to appear labor ya to talk to white people. usually i respond how is your -- so long why do you talk like that. today i responded oh yeah i'm going to appear labor ya.
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>> what do i call this area? >> appear lash sha. >> white people say appealachia am i wrong? >> [inaudible]. >> so do i look from here? >> yes. >> okay. >> but those of you like me who got a strong deep american geoff if i appalachia refers to region along the appalachian lane. i'm in the eastern part of kentucky. this is the coal country. coal is three things people think about when they think of appe appalachia. so tell me what experience does people have about the area in the country? >> oh my god. >> that we're not educated. >> people think you're not educated or have teeth? >> yeah.
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>> don't have the stereo type. i mean come on. now you will find that. >> let's be clear. it does exist. >> we're on a whole -- >> as far as the two other things people think about, coal is a dirty business with a dirty reputation with a dirty four letter word. this show's got -- kids cover your eyes. here's of talk about alternative energy sources have slowly gun to turn. from solar panels on the houses to lerk trick cars in the street, these coal jobs aren't coming back no matter what this guy says. >> coal is coming back. green coal is coming back. >> as a nation we begin to think that poverty is a black or brown thing which would be the only thing we'd be allowed to have for ourselves. which to remains thing of color
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that's probably a logical problem, the only thing that can claim that is poverty. and the people of appalachia can define poverty above and beyonded by mountains with no major industries in or out of town. taking pride of being self-sufficient and living off the land. what happened to the folks who live here now, are they bitter do they see a brighter future? >> i'll ask that off camera. i decided to the best way to begin my journey is to go into the belly of the beast. minor and now 1231 tour guide cody paul is taking me on a trip to experience what it's like under ground, under ground in a coal mine. >> so cody tell me where we are.
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>> we're 400 feet back in the mine. >> when did you work in the mine is. >> i lost my job at 2013. i go back in the coal in 2002. i was making 50 grand. >> we got a camera or something -- >> we got to -- this. >> no. >> it'll be coal if we can get the lights out to see how dark it was at some point. >> we can do that. we don't have our lights on our helmets yet but this is how dark it gets without the lights we have in here? >> definitely. >> so, this is like what people were seeing? >> yeah. that's how it works. >> doesn't it, i don't know, make you feel like you're in a
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horror movie? >> yep. >> lights are back on now because i couldn't take it. it's really dark and quiet and that weird temperature that make t it feel like ghosts are around. >> people live and die in these mountains. >> thanks for that. they were willing to risk death because for a while coal is where the money was. with coal skyrocketed central appalachia went to the -- other than creating engineer for electricity and heating cole was for steal production. now with stronger regulations and the growing number of engine alternatives coal went from powers 90% to half of that now. >> i think this is more complicated if you realize, i don't think people think about this on the curl ral side. what makes you proud to be for
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this part of the country? >> what we have given to our country for our country. we've helped the country move forward and i love being a part of that. coal is just a latin dirty word it's literally a four letter word. >> it means like destroying the inveermt. >> that's why i lost my job. >> why. >> because of carbon and whatnot. coal industry regulated to a point of death literally. but i care about our environment, i don't want to live a place of toxic sludge. i don't want that i want a good job. >> which is everybody. we always want good jobs. see we want the same things, a good job, a family, a car, a house with a chocolate fountain. is that still possible around these parts without coal. >> i'm james skib. >> all right skip. >> they said you were a big dude. come on i'll show you around.
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>> okay. the fact is there are still school jobs about 50,000 actually. >> woa. >> you feel that buddy. >> yeah. but training for these jobs is mandatory. even if the industry -- wlp an average where people died, accidents still happen. so training and safety is what this place is all about. >> got to back it up. >> that and my producers getting more footage. this is the kentucky coal academy, the hail of appalachia. or is it harvard i can't remember. here? >> this is our smoke mobile central training unit. we'll let you train in it like the minors do on our annual refresher and see if you can make it out a mine sane. how do you feel about that?
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there's a >> lynch has a 25% african-american population. so i'm headed to talk to retired black coal minors in lynch at the lynch colored school. okay i got to start with the obvious question. talking about being black and living in a place called lynch. if you travel out that's got to be a conversation starter. there was one place where everyone was equalism. >> people don't realize a lot of black people live here. >> so talk about working in the coal mine, when you were working there next to white people was there a problem? >> in a coal mine everybody
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black. there's no white black, everybody dirty and everything. so we got to taking care of each other. >> lot of racial differences about the racial strikes. you're like you want to live i want to live i don't care if you're white i'm black. >> when you go outside you can do what you want to do. when you go under ground you got to be together and watch out for each other because that's the only way you can get in there and get out. >> big u.s. steal they had the biggest mine in the nation. >> what year was that? >> '30s and '40s. it was a place to make a living but it wouldn't no money it was skrib. >> skrib is something that was only spent at the coal plant. it's like if your boss paid you arcade tokens and you lived in the air case. >> you kupp take your money out of this area, it wouldn't slavery. >> it wouldn't much better. >> they pay you b don't know
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don't use that money on the plantation. >> yeah you use the money here. >> it use to be a school what is it now. >> social club. the blacks didn't have nothing. they were talking about tearing the building down. they've been closed ten years so we ask for the school. >> is this still the place to hang out? it's a place that black people come together? >> yeah the 50 mile radius if we're having something they cop. >> wow, 50 miles this is the back headquarters. >> yeah. >> wow. i want to ask you about this. it says lynch, clan threaten and never showed up and it's a picture of you smiling. >> they didn't really know it was that many blacks living in this area. once they figured out what was good they called that off. people was up on the houses they had shotguns and that's one thing about in this area, we watch out for each other, black,
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white, everybody. community work together, it's say. a good place to live i'd >> all right. before i go can i check out the old gym? >> oh yeah. >> let's check that out. >> played a lot of basketball, that was a big thank ying here. basketball game. >> it's a stage over here. >> stage there. bands, singers coming from all over the country. >> really? >> yeah. >> any famous people? >> james brown, cab cabaret toe. >> when you're the only black hang out for 50 miles and there's a black people meeting going on, well, black folks show up om nowhere. it's like we sent up the black signal. >> a lot of people don't realize a lot of plaque people had to do with coal mining. >> i show didn't know it.
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>> in the state of kentucky there's only two black schools standing and this is one of them. >> this is history. >> yeah the only school that got color on the front of it. i don't know if they had white school up there or not. >> it's just say school. >> make sure we know where we at. >> this is yourself, you go here where it say colored on the front so you don't get confused and wonder to the white school. >> after only a day here, one thing is absolutely clear, lack of opportunities and concern for the future weigh heavily on everyone's mind. i stopped by for a chat with former coal union organizer, coal shoot. what do you love about being here? >> i love the people, clannish-type people. >> wait did he say clannish.
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>> my mother-in-law she live next door. >> oh clan with a c. >> everything's family oriented basically around here. >> what do you talk be this coal mining industry in this part of the world? >> as far as i was concerned coal was on its way out. i don't believe coal is coming back. >> why do you think that is? >> it's time for a change. sustainab sustainab sustainable energy i've seen my father almost sufficient fate to death, everybody's given their lives for the coal industry. >> you think -- >> yeah. >> what carl is talking about is surface mining which is where you blow off the top of the mountain to drill into it for coal. in addition to the pollution in the air from i don't know, blowing off the top of the mountain, the rubber is
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differented into rivers and streams which sucks because rivers and streams are made of water which we need to survive. the epa estimates that removeable valley fields are responsible for -- and poisoning many more. >> it's going in our water in everything. >> yeah. i come from berkeley california, i'm starting to sound like a hippy. >> kind of what i'm known as around here. my kinfolk call me a tree hugger. >> yeah yeah. >> it's not that i'm against coal i'm not. i'm trying to tell them if we don't do something we're going to destroy ourselves. i got nine grandchildren. i like to see them have a bit of fun like i did on this planet. you know what i mean? >> yeah. you want them to have nine grandchildren and so on. >> that's right. they call us oh ignorant hill billys but we got smart people around here.
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>> yeah. you were going to use the word i was gone say the h word. >> hill billy. >> yeah i wouldn't going say it. >> no that's like the "n" word. >> see we each got our word. >> yeah. i'm comfortable with somebody here calling me a hill billy but i don't want you to call me one. >> not at all sir. >> you're right on it. >> i am and i'm gone stay away from it. past , if anyone has a reason that these two should not be wed, speak now. (coughs) so sorry. oh no... it's just that your friend daryl here is supposed to be live streaming the wedding and he's not getting any service. i missed, like, the whole thing. what? and i just got an unlimited plan. it's the right plan, wrong network. you see, verizon has the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in america. it's built to work better in cities.
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into that black pool meeting in black appalachia. item sure they had to overpay black performance to perform in lynch. could you imagine getting that phone call as james brown, you want to play in the country in -- yeah where is it? it's in lynch. i'm good i'm good. >> there's -- apple pie. hooch for berth or worse is part of the appalachia experience. there's no way i could come to kentucky and not try a little.
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and entering a town called whites berg i could use a drink. so i went into town and met one of the moon shiners. >> for those who are not initiated what's the different between moon shine and regular whisky? >> well moon shine's a lot better. >> why is it better? >> the difference is most whisky age in a bottle contraction is it illegal to make moon shine in your house? >> when you convert that -- when you -- that's the legal part. >> colin is talking about mash he didn't mean my mom's favorite t.v. show. he means corn plus water equals mash, add a little yeast throw it in a hot pot and after a while you get moop shine. when you drink moon shine you start to think hey is that horse talking about me.
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you don't know me. >> why is it illegal to do it in your house? >> well they can't tax that. it all boils back to the government getting their part. >> good ole uncle sam, i don't mean jackson. see back in 1791 sand alex zander hamilton imposed a tax on wis ski. avoiding tho avoidi avoiding those tacks led to moon shine. >> how important is moon shine to the culture of being from this part of country? people think about this area as being coal mines does there was that level of importance? >> i don't think so so lot of people still do this. >> what do you like better working in the coal mine or making moon shine? >> making moon shine by far.
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everybody that comes in wants to do this put you going get to try this today. >> okay. here we go. >> all right. we going take a little bit off steal. don't want to take too much. >> this is about the amount i can take. i appreciate this. there you go. woa, hey. good morning america how you? wow. even before it went into my mouth i was like, why are you yelling at me. >> this is cut down, cleans you out. >> i feel clean, i feel like if i drink that whole thing i'd be trying to fight crime. >> i'm glad you like it. >> now that i got a smooth 11:00 a.m. buzz going i need to make sure to curb my hang over. how about general sing.
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yeah gent sink is american as apple pie. am i repeating myself? >> you go across the street in the mountains out there it will grow on the edges of that. >> ex cole miner donald jackson brought me out to the mountains to talk about the way they're using the earth to make money. i'm going to try to ask him why his make name is toe. >> that's what you do? >> well i hunt it i don't grow it. >> who plants it back there originally? >> it just grow god, i guess. >> oh it's from here? >> yeah god okay. >> i always relate it to china. >> the kentucky part of these mountains we're suppose to have it here. >> so, the best in the world. >> suppose to. supposed to be the most potent. i brought some. >> this always looks illegal. >> yeah does look like that. we can take it out of the bag.
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>> yeah yeah yeah. you grew this on your property. >> well you have to guard it man people will come in and steal it? >> why you think they're doing that? >> tough times. >> you think it's -- it's something for you make some money. >> and all you have to do is be responsible about it but because the economy was hit so hard here people are responsible. >> yeah. a lot of coal mining was in the mountains. we wen from 18 mines in this town to three. we went from 1500 employees to 150 people working in this town. you come back in five years and you'll be lucky if there's a gas station here man. i'm a fourth generation coal minor. for four generations we've dug coal in these monies and they come in here and tell us we can't be coal anymore.
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baby vil kentucky is a small town among the foothills in the appalachia mountains. with a population of 1300 that's 98% white and a per capita income of 16,000. baby hill is the poorest town in the america. tough times yes, but people responding with a strong sense of community. hospitality. >> i hope you like barbecue. >> wow, and barbecue. nothing like a home cooked meal when you're on the road. and this spread make me feel like i should start working out again. that is good. >> that's country-style rib. >> i'm use to getting food like at my black relative's houses.
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>> absolutely. >> one thing i felt people are suspicious of me and the camera crew rolling through here. i know there's been a lot of news people rolling through here and taking the issue out of baby hill about poorest country. what are your thoughts on that? >> it's home. no matter what we have or don't have, it's always going to be home. but in a small community like us it's been going down hill for 40 years. people draw money from the government, no jobs, which leads to no money which leads to depression then drugs or alcohol. 35% of our high school kids graduate, young people leave to find something to do. i want i think people to stay, find jobs and be with their families just like i want my children to be with me. i ran for mayor back in 2010, and i got beat with just a handful of votes. >> well that's all you guys got here is a handful of votes. >> absolutely. i'm proud of who i am, i'm proud
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of my mother she has a 6th grade education. she cooks these home cooked meals, taken care of me for 34 years and till do. i want to help the community. >> do you feel like when you were running for mayor there's a target on you now, people are trying to reason your name down? >> i don't care how big a target is on my back. guns loaded i'm out. >> when you say guns loaded you mean -- >> well -- >> you say your mom's got a 6th grade education but she's got a phd in food. this is really really good. like many people dealing with poverty drug addiction has become a serious. in 2013, 30% of residence in east kentucky has reported have a family member or friend that's
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abused drugs. the drugs surgeried when the druggame more available. today with tighter restrictions on prescriptions, cheaper street drugs like crystal meth and heroin has become popular. drugs are an open secret in this area. it's not difficult to find someone affected by them but it is difficult to find someone willing to talk about it on t.v. but we did. jackie is a single mother of a 5-year-old who is decided to leave baby vil and now she's shearing with me why. . what's your daughter's name? >> gabriella. >> people have problems and -- yeah. >> how easy is it to find drugs don here? >> all you got to do is walk down the sidewalk that's it. >> really? so you live in these apartments over here? >> uh-huh. >> are there other people in these apartments dealing with drug abuse? >> yeah. >> do you see people do it out
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in public? >> sometimes yeah. it's crazy. you can't leave the doors john locked or nothing outside. you can't let your own friends into your house. in the past two months i let friends move in with me who i thought was my friend and took everything i had. >> oh my goodness. people who you thought were you friends. >> i'm ready for a change. >> you're ready for a chang. >> i'm ready for this place to be changed. knob nobody's going to step out -- like right now i had to -- >> we are talking right in front of where you live. and some people lean out and look -- is it normally this quiet out here? >> it's normally this quiet. >> what happens around nighttime around here? >> oh the walking dead come out. >> really? >> how do you deal with it? if there was no drog problems do you think you'll be able to make
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a life here? >> if there were more jobs here. >> i feel this place can use you. but because of the the lack of jobs and drug issues you'd have to go? >> yeah. >> what would you say to people in the ton not working hard enough to make the place better? >> i don't know where to begin, you know. i wish them the best on cleaning the town up you know. i really hope they can. this would make a great home for a lot of young people like me. >> how old are you? >> 25. >> you got your whole life ahead of you. >> yeah. >> and you got your daughtr. i wish you best on getting out of here. can i get a hug? >> thank you. are you say hi, i'm paul
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managing your symptoms proactively with linzess. . after days being out in the mountains embracing the appe appalachian experience i knew i missed some of being at home. i found a recording business, art studio, and praise black jesus, a coffee shop. you only meet people in seven miles that offer a mocha and
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sweet sweet why pie. >> how you doing i'm dustin. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you too. >> so this is your coffee shop. >> yeah. >> after traveling around appalachia for a few days i'm like oh that is that a mirage. >> the country very well here. i'm from here but i wanted something more like urban. >> so why you think it's important to open up a coffee shop like this here? >> the industry is changing here and they're close to the tourist area. red river george i'm not sure if you know about that. my target was the accommodate their traffic and if we can pull in the tourists they can try to help -- >> how long has it been here? >> just a year. >> have you always lived here? >> no. i lived in japan and met my wife
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there. >> wife from japan i got to talk to her. >> oh hi. >> she actually does the baking. >> you make the food. >> yes. >> before we began she told me she was nervous because her english wouldn't very good. i told her we can do it in japanese and she said no which is great because i don't speak japanese. >> i'm from japan. >> do you like it here? >> yeah because my home side is -- these are very very true people and yes, i like it a lot. >> it's official, there's somebody for everybody. i thought her english was great but before i leave i want to make sure if he felt good about it. is tourist in the hope for this area? as soon as i walked outside i met lana. so what are you doing here? >> i'm rock climbing. >> what ises about this part of country that has good rock climbing?
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>> it's a well-known destination. it's really steep so you can climb on rocks that parallels to the ground. >> you mean the rocks like this and you're on the other side? >> yeah. >> how are you not falling through this? >> i have ropes. i -- falling you -- >> oh. guess what i'm going to do, yep, rock climb. why? becauseheim because i'm a host of the t.v. show and that's what the t.v. show does. you have a scene somebody mentions something you don't like and the producer tell you to do it. watch, it's craig bentley at beautiful red river gorge. >> how long has rock climbing been popular here?
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>> [inaudible]. in the past years it's blown up with a lot of traffic here. it's fun. challenging. >> yeah. >> as you'll see. >> so you said there'll be a beginners wall. >> yes, this is the beginners wall. >> right here? >> uh-huh. >> and where's the remedial wall. >> i don't think those are at daycare, things of that nature. >> rock climbing is something i never thought about. >> many people didn't, i grew up and my family in the coal business, i got family who still works there, but it's expanding and it's really really busy here. it's a sports climbing mecca. >> it seems like a lot of living out here in this country is sort of using what the earth gave you. some of that is coal and thunder and some of it is climbing the mountain as it is. the mountains say hey, climb me and you guyes are like all right. >> not that many things to do so
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you have -- >> it's not a lot of restaurants or nightclubs or movie theaters. it's like well, time to climb this wall again. this is the big movie in town. what makes you want to do this what do you get out of it? >> >> yeah, i wish. like the early days of batman. that's tight. is that how it is supposed to feel? should is feel like it's taking my ploblood pressure? i know it's my job to keep you all entertained. and i take this serious. or least as serious as my health insurance says i can.
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and plus since voting trump president, and without further ado, witness the essence of confidence. >> you ready is. >> yeah, see what happens. >> to be clear, yeah, i'm mountain climbing in appalachia with an afro pick in my pock pept. >> go up that vertical crack. >> here? >> yeah. >> dude. >> this says a lot about your hands. get up on that ledge there. good job. uh-oh. nope. all right. that's it. i'm not tom cruise. hey, donnie, did you get enough of this? >> how about you? >> i think i've had enough, sir. >> all right, coming down. >> well, it wasn't pretty but i'm glad i didn't end up like that film 137 hours. i dent even have a pocket knife.
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capri pants. it was pretty. ahhhh! for your enjoyment. for your enjoyment. yeah. if there's one thing i've learned since being in beativille, is that they are down but not out. like not even outside. where is everybody? >> it is small town. everybody knows everybody. but it is like family. dysfunctional at times. but at the end of the day, you know, everybody cares about each other. and you know, we'll do what we have to do to take care of each other. >> hope lives in this town. and city councilmember sydney beg begly walked with me. >> is this baitiville? >> this is beativille. >> the city is buzzing. >> there was a time when there were like two new car dealerships and a bus lane downtown. and -- >> right here? >> yeah. yeah. probably the '70s. >> that was a bus el era. >> it was.
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>> thanks so disco. >> not so much bus el any more. >> yeah. >> a downturn can hit a place like this pretty hard. >> yeah. we are trying to capitalize that this place a beautiful. people coming in not just from this country but all over the world he and we have to figure out things to offer them like places to eat, where to go at night, live music. >> downtown is where people expect to be happening and we just walked through downtown and this is -- >> not happening. >> this is like 5:00 at night and most downtowns there's traffic and lots of noise and activity. >> right. >> how do yclose do you think y are to bringing back the hustle and bustle to beativille? >> well, i have to be realistic and it may be 20 years. we may be here in our wheel chairs having this conversation.
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come back to visit. but i will invite you to come back every year and check it out. >> we will check in. >> bring those dollars to our downtown. >> i've left like 3.50 in the coffee shop. i mean $3.50. >> ef dollvery dollar counts. >> please remove mask before entering. that doesn't look like a novelty sign sfp. >> that's probably real, yeah. a pawn shop. >> who is wearing masks? >> well, it could be winter. >> okay. >> it gets very cold and we have a lot of snow sometimes. >> mask cold? come on in, remove your mask. all right, let's keept moving. a lot of poor neighborhoods andn a lot of poor cities that were economically challenged. this doesn't feel bad. >> right. it's not perfect. i don't want to, you know, but it is not terrible. >> no.
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>> maybe we as a country need to count our blessings. bcause there is a lot of stuff going on in this world that's terrible. and we have it really good. >> i'm happy that you're here and happy that you're working hard to keep your community going and it's an important thing that people in communities like to you take the lead and to love it up and work hard to keep it to make things good. >> thank you. it is certainly a team effort. and i cannot take the credit. there are so many people that work really hard doing this on a daily basis. that care. so i just -- you know, promise me you'll come back. >> look, i'm not going to lie. i had a lot of preconceived notions coming into my visit here. but as it always seems to happen, whether it's in the country, at a barbecue, or coffee shop, when you sit down with someone and listen to their stories, all those preconceived notions fall away. and in appalachia, i mean, app kwlas appalachia, with all its issues front and center, once you sit
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and look around, you see what people here see, a region that's one of the most beautiful areas of the country. people looking to be a part of this nation. and not forgotten because of it. . it's the grand old divide. republican senators asking the party's leadership to delay the vote on the buiill to replace obamacare. >> in columbia, at least six people died. a packed ferry sank. we will have a live report from that region. >> an interview with a former jihadi who fought for isis in asia. hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. i'm rosemary church from cnn world headquarters in atlanta. >> and i'm george howell. cnn starts right now.
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