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connection, inside the attack on democracy. it airs at 10:00 p.m. eastern. must-watch tv. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. erin burnett outfront starts right now. >> breaking news, an embarrassing set back for the president. the senate forced to postpone its vote on the health care bill. what happens next? plus the white house calling possible trump russian collusion a hoax as the president keeps up attacks on barack obama. and donald trump obsessed with a "time" magazine cover showing his face. the problem is it's fake. let's go out front. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news forced to back down in an embarrassing setback. republicans forced to postpone a vote on the senate health care bill. it is a blow to the president. he had the senators over today to talk about this.
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they had a meeting with him about the bill. the republican party tonight in disarray over the health care bill. >> this will be great if we get it done, and if we don't get it done, it is just going to be something that we're not going to like and that's okay. and i understand that very well. >> senate majority leader mcitch mcconnell had no choice but to delay the vote. it is clear the bill started going down as republicans started to vote. what happened? >> the legislation of this complexity almost always takes longer than anybody else would hope. but we're going to press on. we think the status quo is unsustainable. >> more than seven years they have trumted obama repeal and replace and they don't have the votes from their own party to begin debate. the vote is delayed.
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is more time going to change the outcome? jim, look, this is a defeat for the republicans. it is a defeat for the president, who put a lot of his own skin into this game. >> erin, it certainly is a setback for the president. he did have setbacks in the house and they got that bill through the house. but i'm told by sources this afternoon that he didn't win any converts when it comes to this current bill but that the president did sound open to making changes to the bill, and that is something that the white house deputy press secretary told reporters in the briefing room earlier today that they would be talking about modifications and changes to this bill. but she was also pushing become on the report that says that 22 million people would go without health insurance as a result of this bill. interestingly when she was asked whether or not the president views the snth bill as less m , mean, she did not answer the
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question. >> one of the reasons this deal fell apart is a pro-trump group was targeted senators that opposed the bill. that would truly be a civil war in the republican party. what can you tell us? >> keep in mind, this group of america first priority, this is a group run by a lot of people that came out of the trump campaign. some people came out of the white houseworking over there currently. and this group basically was laying down a marker, running an ad against the nevada senator who is in a tight race, may not hold on to that seat, really going after him for opposing this bill. what i'm told by sources is not only was this brought up in the meeting with the president earlier this afternoon, a lot of senators saying, hey, why are you doing this, the senator from nevada brought this up himself with the president. so this was obviously a maneuver from trump world that backfired very badly and may have cost him a lot of votes this week and may
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have put this in pearil indefinitely. >> thanks so much, jim. and outfront now the republican senator dr. rand paul, who met with president trump earlier today. let me ask you about that meeting. what did the president say to you? >> you know, i thought we had a good conversation. i thought it was constructive. i think he appeared to me to be open to trying to make the bill better, and he understands he's got people coming from all different directions, you know, within the republican caucus and it's going to take some work. and i think ultimately that's why the senate leadership pulled it, is it's going to take a few weeks to get everything together to try to figure out something we can all agree on. >> after your meeting, you tweeted, senator, just came from the white house. donald trump is open to making bill better. is senate leadership? so let me ask you directly.
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what is mcconnell doing wrong right now? >> well, it is meant as a parlay. it is meant as an invitation to negotiation. we have been saying for four or five days now that we are a no, but we could be a yes if the bill becomes better. we haven't gotten any conversation from senate leadership, so we're maybe, you know, poking the bear a bit here in order to try to get a little conversation started. but we have also put our specific changes in writing. we have sent them to the white house this afternoon. we're also sending them to the senate republican leadership to show them we have some very specific asks and if they're willing to work with us, we'll see where it goes. >> do any have to do with pre-existing conditions? >> it has to do with the idea of trying to legalize the sale of insurance. there is about 12 obamacare regulations, but each of them have a cost. let's say you make $30,000 a year and with all those
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regulatory mandates that cost $10,000 a year for you and you're just a working guy and you can't pay $10,000 out of $30,000, you have to free up people so they don't have all the regulations. does it mean we don't want people to have pre-existing coverage and pregnancy and dental coverage. but if you want everything, it gets too expensive for people to buy it. that's the death spiral of obamacare. sicker people got the insurance. and what happened is the insurance premiums went through the roof. >> right. >> that's what we're struggling with right now. >> so i understand how you're explaining pre-existing conditions. but let's take pregnancy. obviously it is something that affects both men and women, but if a young man who isn't going to be pregnant doesn't want to get pregnancy insurance, i would assume you would say, okay, that would make it more affordable for him to buy a plan. am i right? >> if you live in a free country you would have freedom and freedom would be the freedom to
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choose both good and bad decisions, but also to choose what's good for you. the poorest people in our country are the youngest people. you get richer with each successive decade. if you are 23 years old, you are not married and you are responsible and you say you know what, i need to save money for a car or i need to save money so i can get an apartment so i could move out from my parents' house, you know, those are important things to you, you should get to make the decision that you don't want pregnancy coverage. the government shouldn't be the one that says we know best and you have to take or leave what the government tells you. >> i understand your point and your logic. but when you end up in a situation if you take that all the way to its conclusion where only people who are pregnant or going to become pregnant is paying for pregnancy insurance. so then all that cost is being borne by the women who are going to be pregnant women. >> but i think the misconception here is that we're going to hlok
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at all americans' life and see what decisions they make. if you allow the marketplace to work, the wonder and beauty of capitalism, the invisible hand is that when everybody strives through self-interest to maximize a profit, interestingly, the great benefit of this supply and command crosses and you distribute the most amount of goods at the least amount of cross. >> in the case of health care, don't you end up in a situation where we all like to think we're not going to get sick. so i am going to buy the cheepest plan i have and then got forbid i get sick, i haven't bought the right plan for it. that's part of the problem here. >> we should try to give them options. so, for example, the individual market, if you're a plumber and a wife and it's the two of you, it is the terrible place to you.
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it is an artifact of tax policy dating back to world war ii that says insurance is going to be tied to employment. if we said to the people in the individual market, to the plumber, you can join the chamber of commerce. you can join the plumber's association. you can join the individuals that want to group together association and buy your insurance as a group, you could get a way out of that individual policy and get a group policy. if you work for general motors, my guess is pregnancy is automatically in your insurance because you are a big group and you have the leverage to -- >> why not just have insurance for everybody? >> well, socialism is not a good idea. i know you can ask my friend senator sanders. but socialism is an utter failure. look at venezuela. it is one of the most rich research countries in all of the world. the average person there lost 20 pounds last year, not through choice but from virtual
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starvation. >> you did make a great argument. you said the bigger the group the lower the cost, so i'm taking your argument to its logical conclusion. >> so, no, i'm talking about when people join together, large associations with a good idea. collective bargaining is not a bad idea. labor, getting together. but that's not the government doing it. that's just people getting together, have more leverage in the marketplace. so i'm all for trying to balance the equation with insurance companies. i think they have too much power, but i am not willing to have the government break them up. >> thank you very much. good to have you with me. you heard him mention senator sanders. senator, good to have you with me. you heard rand paul, some of his argument there. he says insurance is too expensive. >> i also heard, erin, if my ear
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piece was correct, i heard him talk about gu lags. i live 50 miles away from canada. we have national health care throughout every major country in europe, the u.k., france, germany. not quite sure they are gu logs. the truth is the united states is the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people and we end up spending more per capita on health care and prescription drugs. >> so when it comes to senator paul, i was curious if you agreed with him on something here which is the point he made that insurance is too expensive. this bill as it is constructed, the gop bill, he says it would bail out the big insurers. it sounded to me that you and me would agree on those points. >> i'm not quite sure we will. of course we are the only major country on earth that allows for profit private insurance companies to make huge profits
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and drug companies to make incredible profits and we have to deal with that. the bottom line is getting back to this legislation. th it would have thrown 22 million people, mostly lower-income people, off of health insurance. these are people with cancer, with diabetes, with heart disease, children with disabilities. this bill would have substantially raised premiums for old workers. you're 62 years of age, what a defunded plan. this was a disaster and i'm glad the american people were able to defeat it. >> come back to your use of the world diss word disaster. the cbo does say up to 15 million of those people who choose to not have health insurance because they're no longer charged a penalty to do so that's different than being
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thrown off. >> we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. so if you are 21 years of age and you are feeling great today and you walk out and get hit by a bus, you made a bad choice by not getting health care. health care is a right, not a privilege. everybody can get sick. everybody can have an accident. everybody in america should have health care in my view. >> you refer to the bill as a disaster because the president met with senators. he also used the word disaster to refer to a different health care bill. >> we have really no choice but to solve this situation. obamacare is a total disaster. it's melting down as we speak. >> it's an often used word these days. but he has a point. premiums up by 29% in the 39 states that use the marketplace. doesn't the president have a pain point? >> if you ask many of the
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leading insurance companies, what they will tell you is that one of the reasons that premiums are going up as fast as they are has to do with the fact that the trump administration is sab t tojing healthcare. >> okay. but to be clear, they were going up before trump won. >> they were, yes. fair enough. look, look, look, i voted for the affordable care act. it has put 20 million more people into the ranks of the insured. it has dealt with the issue of pre-existing conditions, et cetera, et cetera. but if your question to me is, does -- do we need to significantly improve the affordable care act, the answer is absolutely. but you don't do that by giving $500 billion in tax breaks to the top 2% and massive tax breaks to the insurance companies and drug companies. what the republicans have proposed is not a cure, it is a
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massive tax break for the wealthiest people in the country. >> when you say you know there do need to be changes, mitch mcconnell was asked if he would involve you, democrats in the health care talks. >> they're not interested in participating with us. >> are you part of the problem? >> look, erin, this -- you know, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell, has guided this whole approach without holding one hearing. i'm a member of the health education committee. there have been zero hearings for legislation which will impact one-sixth of the american economy and every single person in this country. of course we want to be involved in the discussion as to how you improve the affordable care act, not how you throw millions of it and give tax breaks to the rich. what can you do? one of the things that you can do is lower the age of medicare.
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right now it is 65. you bring it down to 55. it is going to solve a whole lot of problems for older workers. second thing you can do, in states where there is not a lot of competition, you can have a public option. you can make something like a medicare plan or a medicaid plan available to everybody at a reasonable cost. third thing you could do to save a whole lot of money is to lower the outrageously high cost of prescription drugs in this country right now by allowing pharmacists and distributors to buy lower cost prescription drugs from canada and other countries, substantially lowering the cost. so of course we would like to be involved. but not to throw people off of health insurance and give tax breaks to billionaires but to deal with problems of obamacares, which the deducti e deductibles are too high. >> senator, before we go, just one other question. we understand your wife has hired a lawyer to represent her in a possible probe into a land deal that fell apart.
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this was back when he was president of burling ton college. >> no, it was not. let me say a word on that. >> i just want to ask you. do you know if she's under fbi investigation. >> excuse me. my wife is about the most honest person i know. when she came to that college, it was failing financially and academic. when she left it, it was in better shape. five years later, just at the moment coincidentally no doubt when i am a candidate for president of the united states, donald trump's campaign manager, vice chairman of the republican party in vermont launched this investigation. so all that i will tell you now, erin, is a sad state of affairs in america. not only when we have politicians being destroyed, public -- with their attacks against elected officials. when you go after your wife, people's wives, that is pretty pathetic and that's where we are right now and that's about all i'm going to say. >> you just want to understand at this time do you have any
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knowledge as to whether she's under fbi investigation. >> that's all i want to say and we'll let it play out. but i think it's pathetic that when people are involved in public life, it's not only they get attacked, but it is their wives and their families that get attacked. that's what this is about. >> and out front next, hillary clinton's campaign chairman meeting behind closed about russian meddling. and the white house warning syria it will pay a, quote, heavy price for another chemical attack that they say is in preparation mode. what does that mean? well, i'm going to ask top trump official in charge. why is this "time" magazine cover hanging on the walls of his resorts? does he know it's fake?
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. breaking news, roger stone, a trump associate at this moment agreeing to meet with the house intelligence committee. he is going to do that behind closed doors. it is breaking right now. manu, this is a major development. what more do you know? that's right. july 24th is the agreement between roger stone's attorneys and the house intelligence committee for the former trump advisor and associate to meet behind closed doors. a lot of questions about his connections with russian officials as well as in whether or not he was involved in any effort to coordinate with russia, something he has denied. now, this comes as the committee
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has turned to a number of high profile witnesses behind closed doors, including today john podesta, whose e-mails were hacked and leaked to the press. after this meeting today behind closed doors, john podesta was asked about the obama administration's response to the russia attacks and whether the obama administration did enough. this is what he did. >> i think that the president and the entire administration were dealing with an unprecedented incidents of the weaponization of russian cyber activity and they were trying to do the best they could on behalf of the american people. >> despite the testimony today, you are seeing more partisan infighting on that house intelligence committee. some democrats critical of the call by republicans. podesta to come before the committee. jackie spear, one of the members on this committee, democrats
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saying this is an effort to divert attention away from the central issues of the russia collusion issues, something republicans of course reject. right now, erin, these witnesses coming behind closed doors as this investigation takes shape. >> thank you. and of course behind closed doors could be crucial here in terms of what happened. good to have both of you with us. your next, john. roger stone, this is somebody they very much have wanted to talk to. it is a significant develop. they've got a date. >> america has got a date with roger stone, sadly behind closed doors. but roger stone is not a shy guy. he loves parading his opinions. he loves the attention of the press. but he is a person who has been of interest for a long time. he was at the center of so int int
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int intersecting relationships. >> wikileaks and all of these things. >> he's a proud dirty trickster in politics. >> april, it is significant that he's going to do this. they have got the date. and but i want to ask you about the issue john raised. roger stone loves to have people know what he thinks about things. what is the significance about the fact this is not going to be an open session, that it is going to be closed door. >> it is not an open session, but if he loves the fact that people knows that he's close to the power, you know, he's going to let that be known to those who are going to question him. and he could actually give information through his gregarious nature to these questioners, to roger stone. so roger stone is a key player, but he also has key information that could be critical and his personality just could actually help give the information they need. >> does this, john, though, this
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closed door, is there anything that one can read into it about the importance of what he's going to say? obviously, a classified nature of the seriousness of it. >> a briefing does increase the likelihood that people are going to disclose sensitive secret informs they may not want to put public. that's contrary to roger stone's nature, but it would indicate a more impactful testimony than we've let believe. but that's all speculation at this point. >> you have john podesta defending president obama saying he tried to make the best judgment, which has been widely criticized, even among democrats this week. did they? did president obama? >> hindsight is 20/20. you know, every president said i could have done something differently. i think back to former president bill clinton talking about what he could have done with rowanda and stopping the geneside there.
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it was not years ago. it was months ago. and this president at the time, number 44 former president barack obama, was in a very precarious position. but he maintained the fact at the time that he was president until january 20th and to noon 2017, january 2017. he was in a precarious position by whatever he would have done would have been viewed by one side one way and another side the other. if he had to do it again he probably would say i agree with what i did but i could have maybe tweaked something. so it is left to this president to say what he could have done. but former president barack obama is the one we need to hear to say did he do everything the way he felt he should have? would he have stuck by his decision. >> he hasn't admitted he made a mistake. we have to admit he did all this in the frame work assuming hillary clinton would win. >> absolutely.
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some of his staffers have been in the rearview mirror criticized the administration's response. not only did they assume hillary clinton would win, but they were also trying very hard to appear outside of partisan politics. there was a concern if they outed the russian effort too much and congressional republicans were saying this, it would spread fear and be seen as putting a scale on the finger of the election. they didn't want to have that appearance and that ended up having massive consequences. >> that october day that homeland security and the other intelligence communities did decide to out the fact that there was a russian effort against the election, that was that october day, we also heard about the billy bush, donald trump tapes. that was kind of suppressed because of the magnitude of that news and it got lost in the sauce. but russia was on the table. >> definitely got lost in that sauce. thank you both very much.
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>> the syrian president climbing into the cockpit of a russian aircraft. the kremlin's military chief of staff watching near by. just as moscow gets an ominous warning from president trump about assad getting ready for another chemical weapons attack. the overnight statement from the white house saying the united states has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children, warning that assad will pay a heavy price. >> the goal is at this point not just to send assad a message, but to send russia and iran a message if this happens again, we are putting you on notice. >> the u.s. have watched this syrian air base for days. the same base the syrians used
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in april when they attacked civilians with a nerve agent. the u.s. responded then firing 59 tomahawk missiles, but fresh intelligence as the u.s. worried. >> the information we have came in the last day. >> it's not clear if assad and its backers got the message. >> my hope is that the president's warning will certainly get russia and iran to take a second look and i hope it will caution assad. >> trump's warning it was closely held until the last minute. the white house and the defense officials say secretary of state rex tillerson and defense secretary james mattis knew about the intelligence, but many other officials were unaware. the u.s. military has options were president trump if he decides to act. the president has drawn a red line, suggesting conditions for
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action, something he said he would not do. >> i don't want them to know what i'm thinking. >> but if trump does attack, he's in the position of potentially knowing about a future attack against civilians and not stopping them. >> if we were to wait for an attack to happen knowing that it was about to happen, then, yes, we have an bro kated responsibility under the un charter. >> but if assad were to proceed, military officials are letting it be known they have everything in place to strike again. erin? >> the deputy assistant to president trump, thanks so much for coming outfront tonight. how certain are you that the assad regime is planning another chemical weapon attack? >> reporter: well, we don't give away the details of the intelligence operation or the intelligence that we receive, but enough to make that statement last night with
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adequate certainty that they have to be sent a message. >> so the pentagon is saying, just so everyone understands kind of the lay of the land here that what's happening is happening at the same airbase from the april attack. people are seeing some of the who i ha images right now. the president responded, as you know. if they are able to store chemical weapons at this base now, did that strike fail? >> not at all because the vice president stopped me the day after the attack and asked me, do you think they got the message and i replied, mr. vice president, the world got the message. people have to look beyond that. this is as much about state craft and strategic communications and the president was sending a very clear
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message. under this administration, red lines mean red lines. >> so what makes you think that threat, though, this time around will deter syria if that strike is happening again. >> what would you do in his position if the most powerful nation in the world demonstrated to you that we can see what you are doing. wouldn't you think again about actually executing on that decision? i know i would. i wouldn't test donald j. trump. >> so you think they will pull back because of this threat of a heavy price? >> i think if we're talking about rational actors, if we're talking about an intact command, then yes, the reasonable decision would be to not test the resolve of the president. >> so let me ask you a little
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bit more about this because the statement, as you refer to, by the white house warned assad if he, quote, conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price. what exactly does that mean when you say heavy price? >> well, this isn't the obama administration, so we don't give our game play away. whether you are playing poker or you are doing go you politics, you don't show your hand in advance. the fact is very clear. we are there to crush isis. but the use of chemical weapons is a national security threat to the united states and there will be significant consequences for any state action using wmd. that is all we are prepared to state. >> so heavy price does suggest action. it sounds a lot like red line. it's something as you point out president trump has heavily criticized president obama for
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setting a red line and failing to meet it. >> repeatedly. >> here is president trump. >> the obama administration had a great opportunity to solve this crisis a long time ago when he set the red line in the sand. and when he didn't cross that line after making the threat, i think that set us back a long ways. >> is president trump worried about drawing the line of heavy price and ending up in the same spot that president obama did? >> not at all because we're not about rhetoric. we're about state craft. we're about action, whether it's a bomb in afghanistan, whether about 50 missiles on this air base after the attack. this isn't about words. this is about using all the elements of national power to realize our national interests, to stabilize the region and to protect our partners as well. this isn't just about words, erin. >> when you say state craft, it sounds like you are saying
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actually military action. >> no. it is the combination of all the forms of power the nation has, whether it's intelligence, military, law enforcement, information. we use them together. we've had eight years of just talk, talk, talk and facilitating bad guys. that ended on the 19th of january. >> is the president willing to let this escalate? you have one strike. is he willing to do that if that's what it takes, a full-on war. >> this isn't about whether or not we are prepared to do something. we sent the message to them. the ball is in their court. do they wish to be reasonable and use one of the most heinous weapons known to man? because if they do, we will take action. it's that simple. >> after the white house issued the warning, the kremlin spokesperson responded as all of our viewers know. russia obviously crucial in this. russia deems unacceptable threats to the quote, legitimate
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leadership of syria. that was his response to your statement. do you take that as a threat from russia? >> not at all. not at all. but as we sent a clear message with regards to damascus, we also sent a message to all those nations that sponsor that dig tomorrow regime that is responsible for mass murder. they have to consider their own internal red lines. moscow has to think about this, just how much will they put up with from nations they are sponsoring because sooner or later it is not worth sponsoring mass murders. >> but this obviously if it's kalating would put the united states and russia on opposite sides in a military conflict which has not happened before. it is ultimately a question you all have to be able to answer. >> we are not interested in going to war with russia. we are here to protect the united states and its citizens to make sure that weapons of mass destruction are not used
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against civilians or do not spread to the hands of nonstate actors. the fact is we are in syria to destroy isis. but we will take whatever measure is necessary to make sure chemical weapons are not used. >> today we saw the video. he was getting into the cockpit of a russian war plane. i mean, how do you interpret that, if not russia thruming its nose at the united states and taking a very clear side hours after you put out the statement saying heavy price. there he is with a bunch of russian military commanders in a russian jet. >> that's just cheap theater. >> by the russians? >> cheap theater by everybody in front of the camera. >> so you don't take that at all as russia sending a message to the united states about where it stands on syria and bashar all-assad. >> i make it as part and parcel of what we've seen for the last five years, that we have regimes
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bolstering themselves together because they are cut from the same cloth. i see it as a desperate measure. it does not worry this white house. >> all right. thank you for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. >> out front next, the white house saying there is no evidence to back, quote, this russia/trump hoax. all right. well, the top democrat of the senate intelligence committee is going to come out front to tell you what he thinks about that. and donald trump loves to brag about his "time" magazine covers, but is this even true? >> i think we have the all-time record in the history of "time" magazine. when i look in the mirror everyday.
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i think he's been extremely clear that he believes that's a hoax. >> out front now mark warner of virginia. of course the ranking member of the senate intelligence committee, which is investigating all things russia. senator, what is your reaction to her calling it a hoax there repeatedly? >> what i don't understand is after months and the unanimous opinion of all the intelligence committee virtually every senator, democrat and republican, think clearly the russians intervened in our elections in a way that was unprecedented and the russians are intervening in elections in europe. the one person in washington that still denies this intervention seems to be the president of the united states and as to the question of whether there was collusion, we don't know at this point because we still haven't talked to many of the individuals that were affiliated with the trump
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campaign who we've got to question. part of the reason we have not questioned them is because we had the president himself interfere in this investigation by doing things like firing the fbi director, who was in charge of the investigation. >> and senator, you know, obviously that was sara hukky sanders. the president himself came out and said the story is a hoax. when will this tax-payer funded charade end. why do you think he and now obviously his deputy press secretary are saying this and using this word, hoax, so freely? >> i don't understand where they get their choice of language or words. this is the president that's had an attorney general that's had to recuse himself because of ties with russia, a national security advisor get fired because of his ties with russia, he fired the fbi director because of the investigation into the so-called russia thing and then went in front of the russian ambassador reportedly and called the fbi director a
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nut job and that he got rid of him because of the these are not the actions of an individual that is cooperating with our investigation. we're going to do this and take as much time as it takes to find the truth. >> so just to be clear, when it comes to the collusion issue specifically, senator, in your view, this is still very much an open area of investigation? >> this is, in a sense, the heart of the investigation. the first part of the investigation was validating the fact that the russians intervened. everyone agrees on that. they did it in a massive way. again, we'll have a hearing tomorrow that will show the activities how they intervened in the french and german elections. it would help if the president of the united states acknowledges that fact. then we've got to go through individuals that have been mentioned in the press mr. manafort, with information came out with him registering as an agent of the ukrainian
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government. we have to talk to general flynn, carter page, roger stone. there's a host of names that have been mentioned, many of which we've had to subpoena documents from, that we want to get their answers so we can bring them in and talk to the committee, as well. >> your colleague, senator jim resh, suggested the investigation by bob mueller is tainted because three members of his legal team have given political donations to democrats. >> i guess you've got to wait and see when the thing is over. >> but why -- >> if they do something, it's tainted, it's tainted by all that. i mean, i had a very difficult time, from what i know, from the intelligence committee, i would have real trouble with it. >> is mueller's investigation tainted? >> respectfully, i disagree with senator risch. we even had the attorney general
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in open testimony, i asked him, you know, what he thought about bob mueller. he said he was a man of great integrity. this is a guy that was uniformly given accolades by everyone when he was first named. i think he's going about this in a thorough way, and we ought to let his investigation go forth. >> i also want to ask you about the health care bill. the vote is now delayed. the senate majority leader doing that, saying democrats weren't going to talk to him. the president of the united states tweeting out, with zero democrats to help, and a failed and dangerous obamacare as the dem's legacy, the republican senators are working hard. do you share part of the burden for a failure to improve obamacare? >> erin, i'm viewed as one of the most bipartisan guys in the united states senate. every bill i work on, i have a republican partner. there has been no outreach by the republicans to the democrats. they decided they're use thing
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kind of strange process called reconciliation that allows them to pass a bill with 51 votes, not the normal 60. unfortunately, the product they've come out with has been pretty god awful, and whether it's 22 million americans that would have lost their health care or the fact that they would have had a massive tax cut for the wealthiest americans, or the fact that they're trying to dismantle medicaid and take $800 billion and transfer those costs to the states, that is not health care reform. i know you had a virginia family on last night. those families are still very worried about what is -- what's being proposed. but get rid of the efforts to dismantle medicaid and provide tax cuts for wealthy, let's fix health care, then we can do that in a bipartisan way. >> senator warner, thanks for being with me tonight. >> thank you, erin. next, is donald trump faking it? jeanne moos has the answer. at whole foods market, we believe in food that's naturally beautiful,
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fake trump "time" magazine cover? is it a? is it b? or is it c? the answer is c. and you can see it hanging on the walls of at least four trump golf clubs. according to "the washington post." >> it's very impressive looking. it's fake, totally fake. >> reporter: the exclamation points are a give away. the apprentice is a television smash. trump is hitting on all fronts, even tv. but there was no real "time" magazine issue dated march 1, 2009. >> the design is all wrong. if you know "time" magazine's design, you can tell for a bunch of different reasons, the thinness of the boarders, placement of the headlines. ro >> reporter: why would anyone bother inflating trump's press? >> somebody felt the need to guild the lily to add a fake extra thing on top of it. >> reporter: president trump has a love/hate relationship with "time."
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>> look, "time" magazine is no friend of mine except they put me on the cover so much. not because they like me but they like selling magazines. >> reporter: starting in 1989, he's been on the cover 14 times. >> i think we have the record. >> reporter: no, that record belongs to richard nixon, on the cover 55 times. the magazine says it's asked the trump organization to remove the phony cover from their properties. a white house spokesman told "the post," we couldn't comment on the decor of trump golf clubs one way or the other. but the internet is commenting with jokes like, my guess is that donald trump has a few of these in his wallet. "sports illustrated" invited readers to put yourself on the cover of "s.i.," so i did. president trump points fingers. >> fake news. >> reporter: he better cover his
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own. face. jeanne moos, cnn -- >> fake news, folks, a lot of fake. >> reporter: new york. >> i don't think that any comment needs to be added. you can watch "outfront" on cnn. anderson is next. good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight in a controversial figure in donald trump's orbit, as well as the russia investigation, roger stone wants to testify before congress. details on that shortly. first on health care. remember this? >> real change begins immediately with the repealing and replacing of the disaster known as obamacare. repeal it and replace it. repeal and replace. repeal and replace. obamacare, we're going to repeal it, replace it and get something good. [ applause ] repeal it, replace it, get something great. we're going the kill
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