there's breaking news tonight in the russia probe and replacing obamacare. first, the fallout after republicans punted on their health care bill and met with the president to plan their next move. dana bash joins us now. what are you hearing from people about whether or not this delay will actually bear fruit? >> reporter: it's to be determined. i was just talking to a source who's very involved in this process who said, you know, it really is not clear whether this

team that th whether this time is going to make a difference. the goal among senate republican leaders and those at the white house is to get a deal by week's end, still, by the end of this week, to have it in place before leaving for congressional recess, because next week is july 4th. they're all going to be home in their home states all week. that is the goal. but, you know, anderson, the alternative was definite failure. we started talking about this last night as we started getting the senate republicans, one after another, telling us that they were not even going to vote for the measure necessarily to start debate on this bill. and the numbers got so high, it was incredibly clear to the republican leadership and the white house this morning that they didn't really have a choice but to heed the warnings and the calls from a lot of their members that they need more time, and of course the leadership needed more time in order to, and they're still going to try to craft some form of deal, but look, i think at the end of the day, it's still

going to be very hard, anderson, to get the moderate republicans who come from states where they are begging them, not to do this bill or anything close to this bill, which would slash medicaid benefits and medicaid funding that really do give a lot of people in their states care. that isn't necessarily going to change. it's unclear how much it's going to change with regard to the regulations that those on the conservative side of the spectrum say are still in place that make this not really an obamacare repeal. it is so, so difficult, which is part of the reason why just doing it in a week was monot th greatest idea, looking back in hindsight. >> isn't that the same thing that was said about the house version? there was a lot of reporting that look, you get more conservatives on your side, the moderates are going to drop out, and yet they were able to hammer out something. >> they were. they were. this is deja vu.

you're exactly right, sderson. as someone who's covered mitch mcconnell for so long, it surprises me that he made the same mistake that he made in the house, which is the republican members have promised over and over to their constituents that they were going to repeal obamacare, that at the end of the day they would figure it out. that's why you heard mitch mcconnell sound like president trump when he came out of the white house saying it's complicated. it is complicated. very complicated. there are a lot of factors in play that really do affect people's lives and these senators back home. >> it's unclear how going on, this was supposed to get done before recess. not everybody's going to be having a town hall meeting, but they are going to be hearing from constituents over the br e break, how that may impact

things. >> it could have a very big negative impact, it could have a positive impact, vis-a-vis, the push to get something done. it depends on who the senator is and where they go and what they hear. for every senate republican from alaska, like murkowski or from nevada who are hearing from their constituents don't vote for these medicaid cuts, because we're going to lose our care. you also have those from conservative states saying, excuse me, you promised me you were going to repeal obamacare, go get to it. it's definitely a mixed bag. more on what was billed as a presidential listening session apparently turned into a gripe session for some senators. jeff zeleny joins us with more on what happened this afternoon. what do we know about what happened behind closed doors. >> reporter: it's extraordinary that this meeting was happening. the president has taken a

hands-off approach to this bill in the senate, so different from the house version. but that is largely by design. senator mcconnell and others have sort of asked and wished the president to not be deeply involved. he hasn't been until today. but i am told having talked to aides in the room as well as senators in the room that it was largely a free-flowing listening session if you will, specific complaints about medicaid, first and foremost, what it would do to their states. something like health care, there's no one who knows the specifics of this better than these state senators from their individual states. so the president was not refuting any of these things i'm told he was listening to complaints. he's the one who said he wants the senate bill to have more heart. there are several senators taking him up on that and saying we requecannot have big slashes medicaid. we can't sustain these types of

numbers of uninsured. so it went like that for about an hour and 15 minutes or so. and john mccain raised concerns about the secretive nature of this. it was a venting session, an attempt to unite republicans. >> do you know, do senators who were there feel like progress was made after speaking with the president? >> reporter: they don't know at this point quite frankly, because they really have different viewpoints. and this is just the republicans we're talking about. but they are looking to the president it pour sofor some lep here, particularly the more moderates who again, he wants this bill to be more popular, have more heart, spend more money on it. of course that causes problems on the other side. what also, you know, we're holding out hope here, we know they have to get something. we talked to senator mcconnell after he walked out of the west

wing. this is not what he wanted. he wanted this to be done by the end of the week. that of course wasn't going to happen. but he said the option is they have to get something done or work with senator schumer, work with democrats, and of course republicans don't want that. dana was saying earlier, we don't know if this will get done or not. they do believe the president is more engaged on this. we'll see if he's traveling more, you know, exerting more of his influence on those outside groups in particular. so far he is not. >> all right, jeff zeleny, thanks. joining us now, david gergen who worked with four presidents, and david axelrod who had an up-close view of the affordable care act. david axelrod, you said that obamacare passed, quote, because of the sustained personal commitment of the president to the cause. the details and the process. do you see that from president

trump, sharing that to get it passed? he certainly ran on it and has been making calls on it. is that enough? >> no. i don't think that president trump has the personal investment in this issue or the knowledge of the issue that barack obama did. he, president obama was into all the details of this law. when he spoke to lawmakers about it, he understood it in an intimate detail. for president trump, this is important to get a win. and what isn't clear is whether he understands what a win is or what it would look like, and that makes his involvement difficult, because he doesn't quite know where to go with this. i thought it was interesting to hear jeff talk about the fact that some of these moderates are hoping that he can impose on other republicans this bill with more heart. this is sort of what happened in the house. they had to roll one side or the other, and they actually rolled the moderates in the house, and they chose an approach that he

later called mean but celebrated at that time. now the moderates in the senate who have much more influence because of the smaller numbers there, smaller margins there, they want him to roll the conservatives. i just don't know how they get where they're going. i never want to underestimate mitch mcconnell who is a wile e coyote, but it is very hard to see how this additional time, when they go home and hear from their constituents is going to make this work. >> david gergen, the same thing, again, was said about the house version. people were saying look, you get one side you lose the other side. in the end, the idea of not passing something was too onerous. all these senators have ron un this. >> i agree. they were under enormous pressure to get something to the senate, get it out of the house, and it was easier to persuade people, look, we'll fix things in the next round.

now it's in the senate, it's where the bill shapes up or it fails. i agree with what david axelrod just said. can you never underestimate mitch mcconnell. he may well pull this off. they have about a week to turn around public opinion. i think that's extraordinarily difficult to do under any circumstances. you know, public opinion is largely hardened against the house version of this bill. how do you then persuade people, well, you know, the close country cousin is a lot better than the original bill? i think that's extremely difficult to do under any circumstances. but just as importantly, there is no offensive message coming from the democrats about whose vote you can get as opposed to why the country should buy this bill. absent that argument, i don't see how you sway public opinion in the president's direction.

>> the "new york times" is reporting that senate leaders are preferring to negotiate with the vice president saying that some of the efforts have been counter productive. >> one of the things they did that was absolutely ludicrous, the super pac associated with the president started running ads against senator dean heller of nevada who said that he wasn't comfortable with the bill but had indicated he was still in the process, and to go after a member of your own party who's negotiating with the leader at the time was just incredibly destructive as apparently senator mcconnell told the white house. so -- >> i talked to katrina pearson last hour who's from the super pac who said it brought senator heller back to the table. >> yeah, well, i think you cannot, the president has sent two horrible messages in recent weeks. one is when he asked the republicans in the house to walk the plank on the bill that they passed, and then cut them off at

the knees by calling it "mean." now senator heller, who is trying to figure out how he navigates this in a state that trump did not win and where he is imperilled for reelection and where his governor, who is a republican, has come out against this bill says i need more. and the answer is that he gets a negative ad campaign from the white house-affiliated pac. that's just plain stupid. and so they want to deal with mike pence, who is a more sophisticated politician and understands these basic elements of politics, apparently better than this president or the white house does. >> more to talk to both of you about. we just had the town hall anger that the senators could be facing whether they pass an obamacare replacement or not. and now one of the president's oldest associates is about ready to testify. and he also appears fired up

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e-mail. i'm so unhappy that my testimony will not be in the public but believe it is more important to resolve the question of russian collusion with the trump campaign. back now with david gergen and david axelrod and robby mook. how big a problem is roger stone for the trump administration when it comes to this investigation? because he says, look, he can explain it all and there was nothing there? >> i think he could be in very deep trouble. if any of the statements, and, as you said multiple times, he claimed the contact through julian assange, he predicted that john podesta would be in

the barrel way back in august. if those statements are true, if what he was saying at that time is true, he's in very big trouble and the trump campaign is in very big trouble. so i'm frankly surprised that he is willing to testify. if his story is different than the story he was repeatedly telling before the lelection whn he maybe didn't take this very seriously or any conversations with wikileaks very seriously, his credibility is going to be up in the air, and that's going to urge investigators to look even more closely at this. >> david gergen, how do you see his testimony in. >> i think it's going to be very important. he gave every hint that he knew in advance things that were coming, and that's going to be territory for the investigators to explore, but it's also really interesting, anderson, he's one of a group of politicians on the right, you know, who almost take

pleasure in walking through fire and surviving. there's something about, you know, i dare you. you can't hit me. i can hit you harder. i'm smarter, and he'll gi'll ge with this. you can't write that off. i don't know if he's in as much legal trouble as robby suggests, i think he's in political trouble. but wait and see about the legal trouble. >> that's very interesting if he was communicating with wikileaks and guccifer 2.0, that doesn't mean coordinating. >> all we know is that he has been closely associated with donald trump over the years and was in and out of that campaign. we know that he, you know, publicly boasted of his relationship with assange and guccifer, and we know that he correctly predicted that podesta

would, as was mentioned, be in the barrel, which meant presumably, that there would be some leaks. none of that is proof of anything. but it certainly raises a lot of suspicion and one of the benefits of having him under oath in front of a committee would be to ask him questions about that. i will say, david is absolutely right. anybody who's been around politics over the years knows that ronl ager stone who cut hi teeth as an operative for richard nixon in 1972 not only likes walking through fire but gets himself on fire. there may be utility if he's under oath in terms of answering some of the questions you're asking anderson. >> robby, stone is also going after members of the committee claiming that some have maligned him. do statements like that affect the way the committee approaches him, do you think? >> i think as the other

participants here have mentioned, roger stone accusing others of malining him is a pretty rich irony. this is someone who's spent his professional life maligning people on the other side of the partisan spectrum. so i think, as the others were hinting at, i think he wants to put on a show. but i do want to touch back on the seriousness of what we're talking about here. if you had someone who was an adviser of the trump campaign talking to julian assange who is in the ecuadorian embassy, i'm not a lawyer, i don't know the law, that's really scary, and i don't think any of us want our politics to become something like that. we don't want this to become some international espionage operation where one country's trying to trick the voters here into thinking one thing and then the campaigns are retaliating through intermediate yaries locp

in embassies. i think that's nuts. i think it's easy to go into the legal weeds here or get interested in the intrigue and drama, and that's where roger stone wants us to go. our democracy was attacked. and i hope that the members who take his testimony at the hearing really hold him to account to find out what happened and don't get caught up in the drama here. >> robby, you may be bolder, but i'm odo i'm older, and let me tell you, i think it would be good for the country if we actually found out what happened. obviously, there are a lot of disturbing elements to the story relative to roger stone, but we don't know what the bottom line is, how all the connections were made or if the connections are actually there. this is an opportunity to find that out, and i hope the congress takes advantage of that. >> yeah. but let me just say for a long, long time, there's a long arc from the dirty tricks of the nixon administration all the way to the dirty tricks here that people think have been happening

on these e-mails. and roger stone has had a lot of association over the years. and he hasn't been caught and punished legally. so, you know, there's going to be an effort here, sort of like, he's the fox being chased here in this committee hearing. they may come close, but to catch him is hard to do. and they're going to have to be very smart about it. they just shouldn't assume they're going to walk in and find a treasure trove that's going to say he's guilty of anything. >> coming up next, more on the health care drama and the town hall anger that could be behind mitch mcconnell's push to get a bill passed this week.

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look like, we've already seen what can happen, randi kaye has that tonight. >> reporter: republicans in congress know they need to get the hey, bill right. they haven't forgotten the stinging reaction to the house bill. the man yelling at republican senator bill cassidy of louisiana had to be escorted out by security. with the dismantling of obamacare under way, the atmosphere is ripe for anger, and mens of congress across the country are feeing the wrath of voters. republican senator tom cotton's town hall in arkansas. >> i am angry constituent. you work for us! >> reporter: representative tom macarthur's town hall in new jersey. >> my wife was diagnosed with

cancer when she was 40 years old. she beat it. every day, every day she lives with it. she thinks about it. every pain, every new something going on somewhere, is it coming back? is this cancer? do i have it again? is it going to kill me this time? is it going to take me away from my children? i ha you have been the single greatest threat to my family in the entire world. you are the reason i stay up at night. >> sit on down, you're done! >> reporter: republican senator joni ernst town hall in iowa. >> shame on you! >> reporter: at republican congressman paul labrador's town hall in idaho, the more he said the more fired up the crowd

became. >> you are demanding people on medicaid accept dying. you are making a mandate -- >> nobody wants anybody to die. that line is so indefensible. nobody dies because they don't have access -- >> reporter: in some cases, members of congress lost complete control. unable to even make their presentation. >> if i'm allowed to complete the nine slides. >> reporter: representative tom reed in new york was drowned out by angry nay sayers. >> how can you say you're representing your constituency when only 70% of the u.s. population is supporting you? >> reporter: it was all too much for this man in the crowd to take. >> don't shout each other down! if you're americans, act like americans! >> reporter: perhaps the general hostility about voters angry

about changes to obamacare can be summed up in a single tweet like this one. rep tom reed, you're done, i don't usually vote in the midterms, but i will now, start packing your bags, you muppet. a warning shot? or a sign of things to come? randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> joining us now is kiersten powers. as we saw, the anger from some constituents who face losing health care, and when senators go back to their districts, they could get an earful, do you think some will just choose not to have town halls? >> we've already seen some members of congress avoiding having town halls because they don't want to deal with this, but they're still going to hear from constituents, and the problem from republicans is they get it from both sides. they are going to hear from people not wanting to lose their health care and also hearing from people who said you promised that you were going to

repeal obamacare, so they are very much caught in the middle of this campaign promise that they've been making over and over the last many years and the fact that they're in a position to take away health care from a certain number of people. and, as you can see in what we just watched how personal it is. you know, it's hard to think of many things that our government does that affect people so personally and feel, they feel so intensely, that, you know, you could be harming their family. >> it is not all just for senators who could be facing reelection next time around. >> listening to all of this, anderson, i vividly remember when the inspector brought the obama secretary of hhs to philadelphia for a town hall meeting on this very subject. this is democratic philadelphia. they were shouted down. people were so enraged about the notion of obamacare. then he came here to central

pennsylvania, made the same case at a town hall meeting. he had a terrible, terrible town hall meeting. it was bad. and eventually, of course, when he ran for reelection, it was so bad within the republican party that he switched to the democrats, and then he lost the democratic primary and wound up losing his senate career, so i remember when the shoe was on the other foot. there is a reason here for all of this, and that is because there are a lot of americans out here, i interviewed personally somebody whose father died which she attributes to obamacare. people are very angry about this. so there is another side to this story. >> matt? >> yeah, i think that anytime, there's nothing more thankless than trying to nefix or reform health care in america. i equated the idea of choosing a land invasion in russia in the winter. that's basically, when a political party decides they're going to tackle fixing health care, it's completely thankless,

and republicans are going to have to ask themselves, is it worth it? you are going to have to take all this abuse from people who are understandably emotional. some of it's going to be activists, right, who are sort of beginginned up by the partie. and some of it is very organic, people who are upset about any change to health care coming from the right or the left. and do republicans want to go through that pain and abuse. for what? for obamacare-lite, is it going to be a free market solution? that's part of the reason why i think this thing got kicked after the fourth of july. >> it's also, kiersten, at this point, taking something, you know, some people who oppose it are going to see it as taking something away from people. people who have health insurance, losing health insurance, that's a lot harder than awarding something to somebody or giving something to somebody which they consider a

right. >> that's right. that's president obama's biggest accomplishment, changing the way americans look at health care and they now believe that it's more of a right than a privilege, even though the republican party sees it primarily as a privilege. so it's become an entitlement. and so we're here in a position of taking that away. it's not a good place to be politically. and look, it wasn't a great place to be politically even when you were giving them something through obamacare, because in giving things to people through obamacare, there were people whose health care was affected and it made them very angry. i think matt is right. once you start tinkering with health care you're going into a dicey terrain. >> and it's difficult to see how it's going to solve her concerns about the bill, does the bill need a drastic overhaul and not just some tinkering as senator collins has intermated? and is it working with democrats

to try to figure out something? >> there are a couple things you could have done. instead of doing this through reconciliation, try to pass a bill that can get broad consensus, get democrats on board and fix obamacare. there are parts of it that the public likes that even donald trump likes, there are parts that are not working. you could have tried to go that way, or you could have tried to do a more conservative bill. and the thing the conservatives want is to get rid of the third party payer idea. right now the reason that health care costs so much is i never talk to my doctor, i don't negotiate with him about what it's going to cost if i get sick next year. there's a third party, my company that i work for, has assurance compa a insurance company. i have no relationship with them. instead, what we have is neither fish nor fowl. and it's not going to solve the

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senate republican leaders delaying the vote on their health care bill because they don't have enough support from their own party to pass it. one of the senators, moderate republican senator susan collins said the bill would have to be fundamentally changed and not just in her words, tinkering around the edges for her to support it. she is concerned about the cut to planned parenthood for one year. >> it makes absolutely no sense to eliminate funding for planned parenthood. there are already long-standing restrictions on the use of federal funds for abortion. that's not what this debate is

about. cnn communications director for ted cruz and jennifer gran holm. >> you heard how the defunding of planned parenthood makes no sense because there are already restrictions on funding for abortion. >> abortions have said for a long time that they would defund planned parenthood. the fact that they cut it off for one year sees how they can handle it on their own. it provides 300,000 abortions every year, procedure that is morally objectionable to a number of republicans. i think this is an organization that can make it on their own without getting intoes they problems with the budget. >> what about that, do they need the money? >> of course they do, because they provide, first of all, let's be super clear about this and do not mesh it.

federal funds are not used by planned parenthood to conduct abortions, period. it is against the law. but what they do provide is for 2.4 million women to have access to cancer screenings like breast cancer, cervical cancer, and in the areas where there are no federally-funded clinics, planned parenthood is the primary provider. so, to, really, as a part of this health care bill, this is utterly sin kwal, you have 13 guys in a back room trying to find every way possible to hurt women's health. this is one of the primary ways they are doing it, in addition to slashing med waicaid which fs half of the births in this country. >> there is no question that planned parenthood is one of the largest abortion providers. people keep going on with this myth that they somehow provide cancer screenings. what they do do is very simple

breast exams that anyone request -- requecan do in their shower. they are abortion provider. they predominantly provide sexual disease screenings and services. that is what the organization does. now, do they need to get $500 million in medicaid funding? we have a medicaid problem. i'm so glad we have attention on this now. because we need to define who this program should serve. should we be spending $500 million on an entity that provides abortions or does it need to go to needy children and disabled people who cannot provide for theireverals. illeg. it's so frustrating, anderson, because these talking points. >> it's not a talking point. read their annual report. >> one at a time. hold on a second, amanda -- agre not used for abortion?

>> there is a law that federal funds can't go directly to it. but there's no question that planned parenthood exists to provide abortion in america. i don't now why we would support that organization that has so much celebrity funding. jon ossoff's failed race in kba -- gha eorgia. >> access to birth control. in fact, in this medicaid disastrous cut, the cbo has said, that if you cut planned parenthood, you will actually increase the federal deficit. >> yes, because there will be more children, planned parenthood kills children. >> oh, my gosh! >> to clarify, you believe if that funding is kwucut, the wom who currently use the services for birth control or std screening, there are plenty of other places for them to go? >> i think planned parent hood

would continue to exist. they have money for lobbying, i think weeenned parent hood can get by on their own without federal funding. there's a lot of programs that need money. we need to have a debate about where that mondayeny is going to go. there are lots of private organizations that would love that money. i don't see why planned parenthood gets elevated status in this debate. >> planned parent hood gets funding because they provide -- >> because they lobby for it. >> absolutely necessary care to women all across this country. it is a hugely popular program with republicans and democrats, and if you cut this amount of funding, this amount of service to women who absolutely need it, you will ultimately see terrible results across the country, because you'll have children who are born, who are not going to be cared for, who are not going to be where, at medicaid cuts will not be able to serve them.

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. breaking news, senator republican leaders have delayed a vote on their healthcare bill due to a cut. one of the stumbling blocks due to medicaid is -- two treatments -- explained their conditions in a press relief. saying quote, i continue to have real concerns about healthcare qualities in this bill. and west virginia's senator said, as drafted this bill will not ensure access to affordable healthcare in west virginia. does not do enough to combat the open yesterday epidemic that's in my state. gary tuchman is in main

suffering from other states of the opioid crisis. susan collins also announced her attention to vote no partly because of cuts in medicaid. here's darren's report. >> reporter: 34-year-old james is desperate, the father of three daughters are addicted to open yesterdays. he wants to stop. >> what has it done to you? >> it's terrible. i've lost 70 pounds. >> reporter: james is an inpact at the milestone detox in portland main. a facility that allows stay for three to seven days. it's a place that allows medicaid. >> how addictive are opioids to you? >> [inaudible]. >> as we're site sitting here right now? >> yeah. >> what that means to addicts is

dire says the facility's staff. >> i think for some of them that's a del sentence. >> reporter: a death sentence, bob fouler rote a letter to his senator susan collins. >> the process spektsz for people without insurance to receive treatment after they leave detox is grim. >> reporter: the letter employed senator collins to vote against the bill. joey is 37 also here for opioids. he says he's overdosed in the past few weeks. on the verge of death the most recent time. >> as soon as i walked out -- i pulled the iv out of my arm, went home and got -- >> heroin? >> reporter: if the senate bill were to pass in its currents form he doesn't think there's any way he'd get the treatment he needs. by milestone will take patients like joey who don't have the means to pay but one week is a

maximum stay for all pashlts. >> i lose hope. and when you lose hope as a drug addict you die. >> last year in main we had 367 people who overdosed and died. >> reporter: james believe his medicaid couldn't is helping hip stay alive. >> will the medicaid allow you to go to another facility after you're here? >> yes. >> what it was taken away from you what would it do to you in. >> be hopeless. >> as for joey he has little idea for what he'll pay in the future for what he knows he needs. >> i don't want to do this no more i don't want to die. i have a kid, a woman that loves me, a family that loves me unconditional but will not sit by and watch me kill myself because that's all i'm doing killing myself slowly without putting a gun to my head. >> carey joins us now.

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