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the world. he is the spokesman for isn't it time we brought back circumstance and sense of awe for that office? that means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally especially the president. the writer includes impressions matter. that is from a book called cripple america. it was written in 2015, the author donald j. trump. the same who wrote this after he criticized him on msnbc. he said i heard morning joe speaks badly of me. i don't watch anymore. now, it's easy to shrug and say this is what our president does and this is what he is. maybe some of this seems normal. it's not normal. it is the most powerful man on the face of the entire planet.

lashing out personally at a cable news anchor making snide comments and allegations about her appearance. people say inappropriate things, cruel things, crude things. adults apologize for them. the president sends his spokes people out to do just the opposite. >> i think he has been very clear that when he gets attack he will hit back. i think the american people elected somebody who is tough, smart and who is a fighter. that's donald trump. i don't think that it's a surprise to anybody that he fights fire with fire. >> donald trump is many things but tough is not one of them. tough is fighting for the health care reforms. tough is rising above insults and actually leading. what our president does is not a display of toughness. it's a dislay of weakness, of thinness of skin. >> the things this show has called him and not just him but numerous members of his staff including myself and many others

are very deeply personal. so to then turn and pretend like, you know, this approach is -- i guess it's kind of like we are living in the twilight zone. >> somewhere in the twilight zone a tiny violin is playing the saddest song for the most powerful man on earth. republican lawmakers have been lining up to condemn his remarks. on top of all of things he said today, this was her response when asked if the president's tone creates an atmosphere of violence. >> the president in no way promoted encouraged violence, quite the contrary. >> he is simply not being honest there. it's not the first time. sheer donald trump on the campaign trail. you can judge for yourself. >> i would like to punch him in

the face, i'll tell you. >> the president on the campaign trail early last year. there's no sign that anyone in the white house even acknowledges the possibility that his statements are over the top. to the president his spokes people even the senior adviser and daughter, this is all about the president or themselves as victims. >> it is hard and there is a level of viciousness that i was not expecting. i was not expecting the intensity of this experience, but this isn't supposed to be easy. >> she is not talking about her father's viciousness. >> she made the dignity of the women in the workplace allegedly a central mission of hers. she has not commented on her father's attack. here is the first laud dy. >> my passion is the same helping children and helping

women and also the social media. it's very damaging for the children. we need to guide them and teach them about social media because i see a lot of negativity on it, and we need to help them. it has some positive effects as well because this is the life that we live in now but has a lot of negativity as well. and i see more and more children being hurt by it. >> there's a lot of bullying that goes on. >> a lot of bullying. >> as for her husband's twiettt day tack her spokesperson says when he husband gets attacked he will punch back ten times harder which is not quite the same as sarah huckabee sanders we

analyzed more than 750 tweets. almost 400 before on meeting foreign dignitaries and 84 were attacks on the press or coverage of him. 31 directly attacked a person or people. sarah huckabee sanders claims we focus on those 31 and not the others are the other big concern of the country. what she won't knowledge is these are taking away from the president's own agenda. we have had plenty of other things this white house wants to establish but has yet to. we should add any major initiative. in a moment a leading rep senator weighs in. let's go to jim at the white house. still nothing resembling an apology, right? >> no apology from president trump or from the whouchlts i

don't thi d -- whouchlite house. i don't think we'll have one coming. anderson, keep in mind earlier this month it was a few months ago the white house said the president's tweets are official statement frs ts from the presif the united states. it was very likely these tweets will be stored for all eternity over at the national archives or library of congress and earlier this evening the president was asked about these tweets whether he had any regrets and here what he had to say. >> mr. president, do you regret your tweets this morning at all? >> mr. president, no regrets over your tweets sent out this morning? >> you have the president not responding to the questions. keep in mind it was the president welcoming south korean

president. they will be talk about weighty issues including the threat they posed to the region and the world. this white house is having to play defense about tweets. i tried to ask whether the president apologizes for any of this. the president rarely apologizes. the only time i recall is after he was caught ag it was okay to grab a woman by their private parts aech parts. and so it's not really in the president's d flrna to do somet like that. >> i guess it wasn't the case today. it was earlier this week who was a woman over to his desk in the oval office and making excellents about her smile.

it was something that irish reporter tweeted about. it is not the first time this has happened. you'll remember when he went after megan kelly. >> thanks strr much. as we mentioned, republican lawmakers have been he says please just stop. this isn't normal and it's beneath the dignity of your office. lisa of alaska, stop it, the presidential platform should be used for more than bringing people down. lindsay gram, your tweet was

beneath the office and represents what is wrong with american politics. susan collins tweeted this has to stop. we all have a job. three branches of government and media. we must show respect and civility. >> i saw your tweet about the president's comments earlier today. do you not believe that the president shows respect and civility here? >> i believe that the president failed to show both respect and civility. the president should be modelling behavior, good behavior. this language falls far short of that. >> does it demean the office of the president. >> it is unworthy of the president of the united states and i'm concerned about how we look in the eyes of the world as

well as our own citizens. >> sarah huckabee sanders said defending the president that the president fights fire with fire and punches back if punched. should the president be doing that? is that appropriate. >> no. it's not. when you're a candidate i think you have got more latitude when it comes to your rhetoric. once you back a public official particularly the president of the united states you're held to a different standard. given how pow polarized our country is already the president's words simply add to that polarization.

>> you know, as you said in your tweet this has to stop. it comes, you know, days after we saw the awful shooting in virginia and the president spoke eloque eloquently about civility and things like that. it seems that's forgotten. >> the president did speak eloquently after the shooting of the congressman and others at the congressional baseball game that's why i was particularly surprised to see him refer to this kind of language. he clearly recognized that he has a role to play he threw some gasoline on the embers today. >> i wanted to play something you said earlier this week and we'll talk. >> this president is the first president in our history who has

had neater political for military experience. it has been a challenge to him to learn how to interact with congress and how to push his agenda forward. >> do you think it is that lack of military experience that is a challenge as important as health care or is it something else? >> we have never before had a president who did not have political or military experience. this is very new to president trump. this isn't like cutting a real estate deal at which i gather he was quite skilled. this is an area where he has to purr suede peopl -- persuade people. he has to make the arguments. >> and he hasn't done that? >> well, he has begun to. i give the president credit for

the meeting that was held earlier this week. he listened intently to all of our issues. the president said there's a big surprise when it comes to health care coming. do you know what that means by that? >> i don't. it could have been the $45 billion opiod fund. i wonder if perhaps he is going to suggest that the repeal of the tax, the 3.8% tax on investment income would be dropped from the bill, which i think would be a good start because it would give us some of the funding that is needed for medicaid program. >> how far away from being able

to support repeal and replace are you in. >> well, first let me say that i think the republican leaders and white house are making a sincere effort to listen to us and try to accommodate concerns. but for me i have fundamental concerns about the bill and it's going to be hard for me to get to, yes. >> senator collins, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. when we come back, more ton white house's defense on the president's tweet today. and the effort to pass a senate health care bill before the holiday recess. we'll have more on why it appears to be fizzling. dale. dale! oh, hey, rob. what's with the minivan? it's not mine. i don't -- dale, honey, is your tummy still hurting,

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sent out this morning? >> no reply. it is -- i don't even know where the begin on this. it is tough to overstate the mess he made for himself today. it over shadows all of the stuff he is trying to do. >> it is hard to find the words. it is not funny. they will say he is counter punching. this is a television show where the hosts have been guests of his. i have no idea whether it is true or not. you know, they quote unquote attack him. they have been very aggressive about some members of his white house but he is the president and he is supposed to set the tone and set the message. i can't tell you the number of times i have had my oldest child say something to me and when i said you can't talk that way he says why not?

the president does it. there is a difference between a cable show host and a president. his words do carry meaning. i don't agree with those who say he will lose support. >> right. >> it is almost two years ago he said the thing about me beggan kelly. i don't mean in the context of current legislation. at some point there will be some crisis not of his own making, not related to russia where he is going to need allies. i don't think there lab lot of people incline today defend him. >> it seems he frequently goes after women and often on the way they appear or the way he believes they appear or things he wants to say or wants people to believe the way they appear! yeah. i think, you know, it's fine for a man to disagree with a woman

and fechb he wants to attack her based on a disagreement, you know, if they were questioning his mental stability setting aside the fact that he is president. let's suspend that for a second and say he hits back. what they did goes well beyond that. that's what you see in a lot of other examples. it isn't the first time he made cracks ant alleged plastic surgery. it is to demean women specifically to her womanhood. it is an attack. that is in a different category. it isn't something sanders should be defending. the idea that it comes near what he said about mika is --

>> i don't think he should have done it. >> because? >> i just think that if you're going go dhun road, don't. just in general. there are other people that fay want to go autoand do that kind of thing -- >> do you think -- >> i don't think it's a good idea. i also think it's distracting. that said there is another world out there. i mean this business, i find that so patronizing. she is a liberal talk radio or talk tv host like any guy. so if he would say these things about a guy why not her? >> what man is he -- what man has he said this about? >> okay but -- >> what man has he gone after? >> are you kidding? >> physical appearance. >> and having plastic surgery.

seriously. >> who has he said that about? >> he hasn't -- i don't mean to talk over her. but he has certainly attacked men. little marco, lying ted. >> you think it's the same as talk about a woman's plastic surgery. >> it's physical appearance. >> i don't think he has a specific way he attacked women. he tweeted a side by side picture of his wife and ted cruz's wife and the tweet was a picture says a thousand word. it was cruel. >> can we talk about the fact that this actually never happened, right? that's the other thing. he made something up. there is pictures of mika and there's no blood coming off of

her face. so what is this? he makes up something? even if there were no pictures i can sit here and tell you she did not show up with a bleeding face. let's use some common sense here. he is making up something, you know shlgs to try to demean her. i don't unts why is he talking about her even -- why does mika even need a facelift? she is a beautiful woman. she looked great a year ago and looks great today. it is an idea that a woman gets to be a certain age and must have to be getting plastic surgery. try to explain that to me, jeffrey. >> i volunteered to be water boarded instead of doing this segment here. >> you're the one who said it was not, so what is it? >> i believe in the equality of the sexes. i think if you're a radio -- a tv talk show host and you're out

there saying the president of the united states is mentally ill download is what she has said can you see -- >> she put up a thing of little hands. hello. is that male hating? >> i mean i don't know. i didn't see what she put up. >> i saw it. it was clearly a physical reference. >> yeah. >> i guess -- >> the point i'm trying to make is i'm old enough to remember when barry was said to be nuts they put out a psychiatrist report and said that he was bordering on being crazy -- >> i know. he called her crazy too.

>> he called her crazy and called joe psycho. i'm suspending the fact that he is president of the united states. even if i'm accepting you hit back. fine, you hit back. you don't see any difference in going after a woman and claiming that she -- >> i don't see -- >> i see here as a talk show host. >> it has nothing -- >> that's sectixist. >> you're trying to make it out that some how it's equal for women to be demeaned. >> just like men. >> go ahead. >> but this is who donald trump is. at this point none of us should be surprised. he is someone that thats been accused of sexual assault. >> hasn't been accused of rain raid like bill clinton. >> he was once accused of rape

despite his wife's retraction. he is someone that repeatedly jeff saying it is not he has a habit of attacking the physical characteristics of women whether it is heidi cruise, heidi klum, huffi huffington. >> rosie. i don't see how you can sit there and say donald trump doesn't have a history of going after women specifically -- >> i'm simply saying -- >> and i know you have this idea that it's your version of femme in addition that he attacks -- >> it is feminism. >> but when you're a powerful male and you're attacking people well below -- >> she is a powerful player in

television. >> but nobody is more powerful than the president. >> what ability the days when george w. bush insisted. it seems like a laughable notion. >> right. >> it's like why should any kid look up? >> point taken. i agree with that. all i'm saying to you is there is another world here where they are attacked and nobody cares. they can sigh tay is most outra things. those are her words and nobody blinks. >> woe hae have to take a quick break. we'll be right back.

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talking about 2 president's attack tweets. his spokesperson which is that he is the real victim. no one is defending him. here is what he told me earlier about their impact. >> it is unworthy of the office of president of the united states and i'm concerned about how we look in the eyes of the world as well as our own citizens. >> back now with the panel. you were -- >> we were talking about why is it okay for people to sit on a television set and call the president crazy. that is it's very heated type of rhetoric. it is certainly advisable. people say they should not diagnose in the media. that's all fair. part of becoming president is that you get criticized. that's what comes with the job.

we remember him questioning his birthplace. he had to sit and take and put out his birth certificate in response to demeaning statements. nobody said that donald trump didn't have a right to do it. people questioned whether it was okay or not. there is free speech and every president gets criticized and every president feels like they are the only ones who do. he is the only person who has given sort of realtime venting to it and has basically put himself on par with everybody else. it can work in some circumstances but it doesn't really work here. >> so me it's so interesting that the president's spokes people are always defending him as being strong and tough when to me it seems like the exact opposite of being tough. i mean tough is actually having thick skin. tough is actually doing your job, not all of these other distractions, not watching cable news in the morning and going

after the -- you know, we are talk about basic cable here. >> yeah. tauchb hardest thing is not to respond to something like she was talking about with president obama not responding to him being born in this country. you moe, i don't see this as a proportionate reaction even if you accept the fact that he should be doing this. i don't and i also think we listed off some of the things he said about women but also about blood. what's up with the blood? he talked about megan kelly and now mika is supposedly bleeding. there is something very bizarre about this. i think jeffrey, i'll keep doing this consciousness raising with you and maybe one day i'll get through with you. you should spend time on some of your colleagues and see what we deal with on a regular basis especially from trump supporters who frequently say these kinds of things.

i don't me if it's the chicken or egg or how it works but it is specific to trump supporters. i think you would see there is a double standard that women are treated quite differently and there's a difference in appearance that you don't see with men. kids are supposed to set an example. he is reenforcing the worst behavior that drives some women off of twitter out of public -- being in a public domain. they find it so humiliating. >> anderson, there is something we are not looking at here. that is the way the media functions. i was listening to rush today. he was saying we here -- not just here at cnn but cable television, new york times, washington post are the old elite media. the new media is twitter and

facebook and this kind of thing and that he is in overriding that and appeals just to that audience angers the people in the old media across the board. >> you think people are angry he is -- >> that's not rational. >> first of all, quoting rush as some kind of icon of modern media and what the kids are doing -- >> he has 20 million listeners a week. you know, hello. >> right. his audience -- >> right. but it's not exactly -- >> he is not exactly mark zuckerberg is what i'm saying. what the media is reacting to, jeffrey, is not that donald trump is a matter of new media and we all jealous he is so good at twitter and has to many followers. if anything, we in the media thrive on the situation he created on social media. it's his aids and lawyers that want him to stop tweeting.

we are reacting to the content of what he said. all of under the circumstances th -- us -- >> who attacks women based on their looks and duacalls them crazy. >> so there's -- >> so we are not reacting to -- >> ryan. are you telling me there's a difference between calling a woman crazy and calling a man crazy? >> yeah. >> that's sexist, don't you think? >> i don't think it's sexist. i don't think it's sexist. just as raising certain stereo types some times when you say them about one group it actually is more offensive than saying it about another group. context matters, jeffrey. >> women are held to a different

standard. >> they don't do it do guys. >> i believe in that. >> and fechb we -- >> out there saying. >> when is the president going to talk about some guy's facelift? >> little marco? >> that's the only -- >> little is a stature. >> two other physical attribute? >> i think i could find lots of them. >> i think it's this president's favorite medium to use. what happens to women versus men is very different than what happens with men. i think that in particular is something that is helpful for everybody around this discussion. >> i think it's not helpful when it's coming from the president of the united states. >> yes.

>> even if it awoke his view of feminism, who cares? this is the president of the united states taking to twitter in the middle of dealing with north korea, in the middle of 100 more important issues. he is waking up turning on basic cable and tweeting attacks on people. >> all i can say, look, do i think he should have done it? no. i think they should get the ball rolling. they are not going to do it. they love to say this stuff about it. let's move on here. let's move on. >> this is all day from people at the white house. let's move on. let's move on and criticizing us in the media. we are not the president of the united states who tweeted this out. we are not the ones that the move on has to come from the most important person in the world. >> i mean -- >> i think --

>> why the you think it was wrong? >> i don't think the president should be doing this kind of thing. >> it sounds like the beginning and end of the conversation. i'm serious. >> just the fact that he does do it doesn't mean all of the things that are being attributed. do you think sarah -- is she not a woman? >> why shouldn't the president do it? >> one from a very practical sense. i think he shouldn't be doing it as president of the united states. >> what is the rest of that sentence? why shouldn't he be doing it? >> i don't think it's the right thing for a president to do. >> because why? >> because it cause ugh all of this controversy. it is unnecessary. >> but what you're saying --

>> dealing with mika as an equal is a good thing, not a bad thing. >> he is the president of the united states. she is a basic cable news host. she is not even part of the premium package. >> that's a term -- >> i'm saying it is a basic cable host. i'm not part of the premium package either. >> we are not premium? >> no. >> let's never forget we are the real story. >> can i just say it is a quality would be not using gendered attacks. that's the point. it's like can you bring up little marco, i don't see it as being the same thing. it's like one example, right? we have this long list of him doing this to women. so the point is that it is a gendered attack. he also, by the way, i'm sure unleashed -- i can't even imagine what kinds of attacks

mika is getting -- >> right but miss universe pageant is for women. it's not as if there's a track record here of who we are dealing with and his relationships with women. he is not -- to say this is all just equal, he is not -- >> anderson, all i can say is by way of example when he had his problem women wrote these things not new york times. women tell the truth, listen to us then we get down to bill clinton with allegations of rape and all this stuff and suddenly it's all about sex. there is a double standard in the way donald trump is being treated. >> the times actually wrote during the campaign about those cases. i don't think -- i also think bill clinton was not running as president. >> i think it's one of the rare days where there's a single standard where almost every

media voice and every liberal voice has basically said that this is beyond and the only people defending the are paid white house speaks men and they will have to deal with their own conference on that or frankly -- >> i'm not defending it. i'm not defending it. >> you're kind of defending it. >> no. >> you're saying he shouldn't have done it but -- >> no. >> your reason for him not doing it is you think it was politically stupid. >> now. i thi no. i think it's the wrong thing. i think it's wrong no matter who they are. no matter who they are. you can't have a double standard. >> where is the double standard? >> they are saying this and you slam it from this stuff and he fights back and everybody says you can't do that. >> we can be accused of holding the president to a high standard. that is true. >> we are also just covering --

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the president's latest personal attack on a woman's appearance is not unprecedented. it may start to seem normal to some. it is anything but. we take a look back. >> donald trump has been dishing

it out for decades. rosie oh -- when he said she duffer sufrs from depression he said this. >> i said i think i can cure her depression. if she would stop looking in the mirror i think she would stop being so depressed. >> and this following a presidential debate. >> she starts asking me all sorts of ri dick louridiculous questions. >> trump insisted it was a big misunderstanding. so is this after mocking a disabled reporter. >> i don't know what i said. i don't remember. he is going i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. this is 14 years ago. they didn't do a retraction. >> he later said he never met that reporter and would never have mocked him. on twitter he takes aim at 140

characters or less. >> if i have all of these millions of people and it's a great way to get a message out. >> his message, look at that face adding would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that? is face of our next president? he also made inflammatory remarks. the tape was leaked just weeks before the election. on it then candidate trump is heard bragging about grabbing womens general tills saying he can do so because he is a star. >> you can do anything. >> he apologized. i accept his apology. i hope the american people will accept it as we. it was many many years ago. he is not the man that i know. >> trump especially likes to go after political types. in his twitter feud

with elizabeth warren, calling her pocahontas. trump tweeting let's properly check goofy it's a controversial issue dating back to her 2012 senate campaign. trump tweeting, let's properly check goofy elizabeth warren's records to see if she is native american. i say she's a fraud. others he's lashed out against on twitter? media executive arianna huffington. in 2012, trump wrote, she's unattractive, both inside and out. i fully understand why her former husband left her for a man. he made a good decision. he also tweeted about what he called actress bette mid der's ugly face and body. and while watching the oscars he tweeted about actress kim novak, tweeting kim should sue her plastic surgeon. #oscars. >> when he tweets, he gets result . >> really?

randi kaye, cnn new york. >> we're back now with the panel. joining the panel is michael d'antonio. for a guy who has reached the pinnacle, he's now president of the united states. he has won. you know, it's as high as you can go. he still is so thin-skinned that he wakes up in the morning and watches "morning joe," which he claims he doesn't watch, and is so outraged that he launches this attack. if i'm a world leader anywhere in the world, i just read his tweets, and you can kind of figure out what his weaknesses are. >> well, that's true. i think what's extraordinary, and this is an unusual thing to note, i think, is that despite his achievement and the fact that he's now the most powerful person on earth, donald trump's life experience is actually quite limited. if you think about what makes a person strong, what makes a person thick-skinned, it's adversity, it's suffering. he's never really been in a situation where he personally suffered over anything.

he was born into great wealth. his bankruptcies were burdens for his bankers, not for him. he always had this life of guaranteed luxury and he's always been the most powerful person in the room. even if you think about his personal relationships. when wives didn't please him, he got rid of them. and i think there's a problem here of people who haven't pushed back against this kind of behavior in the past. he hasn't paid a price for it. and as a result, he's actually quite sheltered. the rest of us here, i think, have heard more negative feedback from our families and friends than he has in his own life and we benefit from it and now he's really at pains to adapt to this level of criticism and not respond with this ten times harder thing. >> growing up, the physical attributes, going after somebody like ratings or poll numbers and physical attributes, that seems

for him to be the deepest cut of all. >> he has certain go-tos and we saw them over and over again on the campaign. >> it sort of says what he's afraid of people criticizing him on. >> i was thinking about this over the last year, that when he's had times when he should be, to your point, feeling like he's at the top of the summit and climbed the mountain, when he -- the day that he was given the nomination formally in 2016, what was preoccupying him that day was something that his former ghost writer tony schwartz had done publicly. that was what he had focused on. when things are very -- and i don't know what michael thinks about this, but when things are getting very intense or possibly uncertain or anxiety provoking, he focuses in on these little slights and pushes back on them. i do think it's sort of remarkable, though. part of his success is he brands things in certain ways, he says things in certain ways that are memorable and that stick. two years, nobody has forgotten

for the most part the megyn kelly blood comment. he made it through the campaign very rarely talking about any specifics on policy, being clear on where he stood on issues. right now you have a major debate about the future of health care in this country, and that's not getting talked about at all. and there are millions of people who are facing the potential of having their coverage severely impacted if this senate bill goes through and he has created a storm where that's not being discussed. now, i don't agree with people who think everything is an intentional distraction but i think that's the net effect here. >> mike, has he always -- i mean, you've spent time with him. >> he takes things very personally. this is a problem for him. when you're not serving constituents, it's okay. if his only concern was the bottom line of his companies and this attention-seeking work for that bottom line, that makes sense. the few times that he's had obligations to large numbers of people have involved stockholders who bought shares in his company and bondholders

who invested in his bonds and in both of those cases, the results were disastrous. the stockholders lost 90% of their investment and the total loss for bondholders and stockholders combined is 1.5 billion. so i think this move now into an environment where he serves the american people is really challenging for him. i don't think he's yet grasped that he can step back, pay attention to the people's business, let these things roll off him and maybe achieve a few things. >> kirsten, do you think this argument that sarah huckabee sanders makes and that he has always made and his wife makes it, he's a counter of puncher. he punches back. do people continue to buy that? there's one thing during the campaign and the argument is, i'll punch back for you, i'll do this for you. >> right. >> at a certain point, maybe people continue to believe that's what he's doing. but it doesn't seem like he's doing it on health care right now. it's really about punching back at mika brzezinski.

>> right. exactly. i think pbs "newshour" and marist had a poll that came out and they asked people what they thought about his tweets. in no group, including trump supporters did any group of voters go over 50% of people saying that they thought the tweets were helpful or good. i think the overall number was that 70% think that they are unhelpful and sort of a distraction. so even among his own supporters they don't even find the tweets to be that helpful and i think these kind of tweets fall into there's own special category where i think they're even less helpful in terms of moving an agenda forward and even -- i know jeffrey is kind of hanging on and defending him and we've heard other republicans coming out and saying, no, sorry, this crosses a line. and i think that it doesn't help him. >> i just want to be clear. i want the same standards for everybody. >> no, you don't. no, you don't.

>> yes, i do. >> no, you don't. because they aren't the same standards. you want women to be on the receiving end of misogynist attacks and just accept them because that's your idea of equality. and i'm sorry, at this is not equality. >> that's not true. that's not true. what i'm saying to you is when you have liberals who are charged with all sorts of things, you give them a pass. >> no. okay. can i just -- i think -- can i just -- let me address this. >> let kirsten respond. >> i think that's a totally fair complaint. and i've talked about that before and i think that there can be a double standard and i think the bill clinton is a good example of that. >> and ted kennedy. >> ted kennedy is a good example as well. today -- you're going back quite a ways, jeffrey. ted kennedy was a long time ago. bill clinton was a long time ago. today bill clinton would not -- >> the principle is alive and well. >> can i just finish my sentence? no, it would not because bill clinton would not get that pass. we saw it in hillary's campaign, the blowback from people on the

left, particularly younger people who were hearing about this for the first time and saying that's not okay. i don't like that women have accused bill clinton of this. in today's world, bill clinton would not be defended. he would not get away with what he got away with. i firmly believe that. >> all i'm saying, the standard should be the same for everybody. >> i agree. >> that's it. that's my point. beginning and end. >> right. and it's not. and that's my point. my point is with donald trump, he's feeding into a long history of misogyny that we've gotten to the point where most people agree is not acceptable and now we have the president of the united states coming out and engaging in behavior that's reinforcing it. and like i said, i guarantee mika brzezinski is on the receiving end of unspeakable attacks against her personally and her physical appearance all spurred by, who? the president of the united states of america. >> maggie, you've reported a lot on the inner workings of the white house. i'm fascinated how this white house works and what this

president does all day long and how it compares to what past presidents have done. i mean, are there -- do we know, are there briefing books that he's reading? are there -- you know, meetings where he's going into the weeds on policy issues? because it seems like past presidents have done that. even one who is did not delve all that deeply, it seems like there were -- i don't know of any past presidents who watched tv as much as donald trump does. >> this president prefers, all of his aides say, a fair amount of slack time where it's basically unstructured time. he gets to do what he chooses. he has a very large television that my colleague reported on it months ago that got installed in the dining room off the oval office. and he spent a lot of time in there. his office is more like grand central station and firmly structured in guarded space. people are coming in and out all the time. people have told stories of trying to brief him on things and they constantly get interrupted.

he does have briefing books he reads. there are certain areas where he is more familiar than others. one of the complaints that came out of this meeting with senate republicans earlier this week on health care is that there was a level of granular detail that he didn't possess about their bill. and that was -- i don't know if it was troubling to them or if they just noted it. but he's not a deep reader. that is known about him. and i do think -- where i think sarah huckabee sanders is correct is where she said something from the podium that is pretty honest. people knew what they were electing when they elected donald trump. that is true. >> that same specific criticism was made of ronald reagan, by the way, throughout his eight years. >> ronald reagan had been a governor. >> right. but he was always accused of not knowing the detail. it used to drive tip o'neill crazy. >> i understand. >> one other thing.