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how deep will the investigation go into the white house? how deeply involved will russia's president? all that and the rest of the world's hot spots with senator mark warner. also, the united states in the age of trump. >> it's going to be only america first. >> how will history judge the president's first 150 days? what conclusions can we draw? how is the world reacting to this new america? i have a great panel to discuss. also, rocky mountain high. almost five years ago this state voted to legalize recreational marijuana. what lessons about lighting up does colorado have for the rest of america and the world? but first, here's my take. the democratic party gets reaction to its series of recent election losses by once again

concluding it needs a better economic message. as senate minority leader chuck schumer said last sunday -- >> democrats need a strong, bold, sharp emed and commonsense economic agenda. >> the only disagreement within the party is about how sharp-edged and left wing that message should be. but, it is increasingly clear that the problems for democrats has little to do with economics, and much more to do with the cluster of issues they were rather not revisit. about culture, social mores, and national identity. the democratic economic agenda is broadly popular with the public. more people prefer the party's views to those of republicans on taxes, poverty reduction, health care, government benefits, and even climate change and energy policy. the democracy fund commissioned a comprehensive study of voters in the 2016 presidential election, and one scholar set

out its first key finding. the primary conflict structuring the two parties involves questions of national identity, race and morality. focusing in on the people who voted for obama in 2012, and then trump in 2016, he found they were remarkably close to the democratic party on economic issues. but they were far to the right on their attitudes toward immigrants. blacks and muslims. and much more likely to feel, quote, people like me are in decline, unquote. the public religion research institute and the atlantic also conducted an important study to analyze the most powerful predictors of whether a white working-class voter would vote for donald trump. after party identification the two best predictors were, quote, views about cultural displacement, unquote, and support for deporting undocumented immigrants. those who felt their economic

conditions were poor or fair were actually slightly more likely to vote for hillary clinton. it's worth considering how much the democratic party has changed over the last 25 years on cultural issues. bill clinton's party was careful to come across as moderate on many social issues, like immigration, and gay rights. the democrats eventually moved boldly leftward in some of these areas, like gay rights, out of an admirable sense of principle. on others like immigration, they did so largely to build a growing segment of democratic voters. but in a broader cultural sense, the democratic party moved left because it became a party dominated by open college educated professionals. the party's defense of minorities and celebration of diversity are genuine and genuinely praise worthy. but they have created great distance between itself and the broad swath of middle america. this is a cultural gulf, and it

can't be bridged by advocating smarter policies on tax credits, retraining and early childhood education. the democrats need to talk about america's national identity in a way that stretches the common elements that bind not the particular ones that divide. for example, the party should take a position on immigration that is less absolutist and recognizes both the cultural and economic costs of large-scale immigration. the more i study the subject, the more i'm convinced that people cast their votes mostly based on an emotional bond with the candidate. a sense that they get each other. democrats have to recognize this. they should always stay true to their ideals, of course. but yet they have to convey to a broad section of americans rural, less educated, older, whiter, that they understand and respect their lives, their values, their worth. it's a much harder to balancing

act than one more push to raise the minimum wage. but this cultural, social realm is the crossroads of american politics today. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. senator mark warner has emerged as one of the most powerful democrats on capitol hill. part of that power comes from his key role on the key senate committee investigating russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. warner's vice chair of the select committee on intelligence, that's the committee also of course looking into whether members of the trump campaign might have colluded with russia. senator warner, thanks for joining me >> thank you. >> let's talk about the

investigation into the russian matter. there are a lot of people, republicans, who say, look, this thing has now been investigated. you have the press looking at it. you've had various committees looking at it. and really, there's nothing. there's clearly the russians, this line of argument is clearly the russians did try to interfere, but there is absolutely no evidence that the trump campaign colluded. what do you say to that? >> first of all, let's take a step back, and really go through what we know are facts. one, that russians intervened in our election in a way where they both stole e-mails, released those e-mails to try to help mr. trump, and hurt hillary clinton. second, in a way that was unprecedented, they had a massive use of fake news and false information where internet trolls created bots that in effect flooded the zone with fake news that was harmful to hillary clinton. we'd never seen that use of the internet, and it raises a whole series of policy questions about

the internet platform, facebook and google and twitter, what will their responsibility be going forward. i would point out in the french elections, facebook took down 30,000 sites. they were totally unprepared for this kind of activity in the american election. and third, we've seen that russia has attacked 21 states troll systems. we still need to get that information out more so we're better prepared in 2018. we know all of those facts, the intelligence community agrees, and frankly all of the senators agree. the one individual in washington that does not accept those facts is donald trump. and the question is, why? and also, his failure to accept those facts means that we do not have a whole of government approach in how we prepare ourselves for future russian atta attacks. >> but maybe he's being defensive. maybe he's -- >> his job is to make sure that we protect our country, and he's not doing that in terms of how we prepare against future cyber

attacks. let's not go -- let's go to the investigation. i thought we would be further along in this investigation by july fourth. but i also never anticipated the fact that the president would fire the fbi director. that he would have his national security adviser have to resign because of contacts with the russians. his attorney general have to recuse himself because of undisclosed contacts with the russians. and we have been in the basically information gathering phase. we've been subpoenaing a lot of information. we've got just received enormous 2,000 pages of information from the treasury about financial interests. we are now at the stage of starting to talk to some of the individuals who are affiliated with the trump campaign that at least in the press have been mentioned that they might have had contacts with the russians. so, we -- i would not expect us to have those answers, if we'd not talked to any of those trump affiliates and trump associates. ask me that same question in a

couple months, and i think we'll have much more clarity. >> do you think you have seen either intelligencely leads or financial data that tell you that this investigation is serious and real? >> it is obviously serious in terms of the russian intervention in our election. and unfortunately, the president's failure to take that seriously, i don't believe we have a whole of government approach on how we're going to prevent it. in terms of collusion, i've never seen so much smoke and so many possible threats. at the end of the day, if there is no fire, i will be the first to say, there's nothing there. but it is way too early to make that conclusion right now, and while we have only limited contact with the special counsel bob mueller, if you look at the level and quality of lawyers that he is hiring, senior lawyers with huge expertise, i'm

not sure that they would be leaving their jobs to go into that investigation if mr. mueller didn't believe that there was something that he had to actively pursue. >> when did you think you will have enough information that you can start sharing with the public some of the, you know, tentative conclusions or witnesses -- >> i think in many ways the first path was to review the intelligence community's report. the unanimous report that the russians intervened. i think we're well down that path, and again, we have acceptance from senators on both sides of the aisle. we have every expert comes in. reconfirms that fact. we've seen again russian intervention in the dutch elections, the french elections. we're going to see russian intervention in the german elections, and i would point out, if you add up the money that the russians have spent in america, france, the netherlands, and germany, and double it, that's still less than 5% of the cost of a new aircraft carrier. so it raises a whole host of questions about how we think about cyber warfare in the 21st

century. in terms of the questions about collusion, i believe it will take russ, the chairman of the committee richard burr said he thought we might be done by the end of the year. i think that would be an aspirational goal. i want to get this done, because the american public deserves to know the truth. and it would be -- we would be helped in this matter if we didn't have the president constantly saying the whole thing is a witch-hunt, it's fake news, if we had an administration that was actually collaborating with us. >> do you think that the obama administration choked, and should have done more when it knew that the russians were interfering? >> with the value of hindsight, yes. but i also know that most of the information, there were so many threads coming in from both signals in intelligence, from human intelligence, from actions of the fbi, but no one really put the whole -- all the pieces

together after the election. >> and there was this fear which you think was justified that it would seem partisan? >> again, i feel since the american government knew, even in the summer, and as former director comey has reported, he started criminal investigations in july, and with the value of hindsight i think, if in an early indication that russians were trying to intervene in ways that were unprecedented. particularly using the fwox create fake news that would then appear on your twitter or facebook news feed as the top story and oftentimes, stories that were not true, and earlier warnings to the american people would have perhaps put them more on guard. but again that's what the value of monday morning quarterbacking. >> stay with us, next on gps i will ask senator warner about what the democrats need to do to start winning elections again. and about his efforts to bring back jobs to middle america.

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represented. but i do feel and i say this as somebody who spent longer in business, i was an entrepreneur, ceo of a major enterprise, i do feel that many americans are actually giving up on our system, and i would argue, as somebody who's been blessed to do well, that modern american capitalism, with its focus on short ternlism, quarterly earnings over long-term value creation is not working for enough people. and i think, as your column pointed out, the country is actually very supportive of democratic positions around increasing the minimum wage, and more investments in workforce training. i believe we need to think about framing these issues differently. i would argue, how can we think about the business cycle that would actually value companies that create long-term value, invest in human capital, invest in r&d rather than simply chase quarterly profits. i think we need to recognize, as well, nobody's going to work --

my dad worked for the same company for 38 years. that's not the way the workforce is going to be. the whole nature of work is changing. we have a social contract that was created in the 20th century that would basically fit around the idea that if you worked long-term for a company, the government's going to give you benefits like unemployment, workman's caomp, disability, retirement. that's all changing. i think we need to change with the system. >> you think you will get back middle america? i mean this is all very wonky, it's very -- how do you get people's hearts and guts -- >> i think we have to say there needs to be a new social contract. i think we have to say, there is a role for business to play in not only short-term value for shareholders, but there is also a responsibility the business has to other shareholders such as employees. and we clearly got massive change coming, if we even think about artificial intelligence, and machine learning that will be totally transformative. we need to be ahead of these

issues in terms of how we make sure, particularly that low and moderate income americans have some sense that the system is actually going to work for them, and that they need to continue to participate. right now, i feel like many people feel like they're being left out, that turns them to the extremes whether it's on the left or on the right. >> do you think donald trump will be able to bring the jobs back for the people he promised? >> i think mr. trump has made a series of broad-based promises. i don't think he's going to be able to keep them. look, on health care he promised nobody was going to lose their health insurance. nobody would pay more. the bill that came forward showed that his promises were not worth anything. the idea that he's going to be able to flip a switch and bring back jobs in textiles, or in the coal industry or certain manufacturing, i just don't believe that's going to come to pass. but it is going to take a new social contract. it is going to take a new sense

that gets us out of the tit for tat issues that we have argued about for the past 25 years. we need a new framework so we can actually reach some of that bipartisan consensus. i'm not sure whether portable benefits or a worker investment training credit or making businesses think and invest over the long-term rather than just for short-term profits, i'm not sure those are democrat versus republican ideas. i do think they are future versus past, and as a democrat i think the democratic party has always been at its best when we've been leaning in to the future. donald trump has this idealized version of an america in maybe the '50s and '60s that might have been great for white men, but frankly, was not working for a lot of other americans. i don't think even for white men he's going to be able to create that old '50s and '60s type environment. >> mark warner. pleasure to have you son, sir. >> thank you, fareed. >> next on gps, the rocky mountain state has been getting high legally for almost five years now and a good portion of

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than donald trump. actually by a lot. and according to gallup, even the number of republicans in favor of legalization has more than doubled since the early 2000s. it's now at 42%. at a campaign rally back in 2015, donald trump had this to say on the topic. >> marijuana thing, it's such a big -- such a big thing. i think medical should happen, right? don't we agree? i mean i think so. and then i really believe you should leave it up to the states. it should be a state situation. >> yet in the american legal system, there exists a fundamental contradiction about the legalization of pot. on a federal level the sale or possession of trafficking marijuana still could be a schedule 1 felony with maximum penalties that could reach lifetime imprisonment for certain offenses. now as more states have legalized marijuana the number of federal trafficking charges have plummeted down 50% from 2012 to 2015. however with the arrival of the

trump administration to washington, there has been growing trepidation among pot activists and marijuana businesses. that's because the nation's chief law enforcement officer attorney general jeff sessions has let it be known that he thinks marijuana is only slightly less awful than heroin. at the meeting of the professional association of attorneys general he said this. >> my best view is that we don't need to be legalizing marijuana. >> many conservatives also say marijuana is a dangerous gateway drug to opioids. now, this is where they get the argument dead wrong. the deaths due to opioid over dose is certainly a cause for great alarm. but the dea the drug enforcement administration said last year in a report clearly little evidence supports the hypothesis that initiation of marijuana use leads to an abuse disorder with other illicit substances. and a study in the prestigious journal of the american medical

association found that from 1999 to 2010, states that passed medical marijuana laws actually saw 25% fewer opioid related deaths than expected had they not passed those laws. when it comes to the opioid epidemic, the science, the data, is all telling us that criminalizing pot is not the way to go. and if the trump administration is so concerned with drug abuse why does it propose slashing the budget of the substance abuse and mental health services administration by $400 million? that same budget does increase the department of justice's funding to prosecute drug relatrelate ed crimes by $103 million. in the middle of a devastating opioid epidemic the administration seems intent to bring us back to the bad old days of the drug war and locking up pot smokers and throwing away the keys. but seen against the science of the emerging will of the american public, this is an idea that should go up in smoke.

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"time" magazine, and has co-authored a great book on former presidents. jeffrey goldberg is the editor in jeff of the atlantic. and dan senor is an author, investor and foreign policy adviser to mitt romney, paul ryan and marco rubio. welcome to you all. so when we look at this presidency, at some level we've never seen anything like it, right? the freak shows, the tweets, does any of that matter? you've looked at a lot of colorful characters. is that just going to get chalked up to, well, he was a weird, strange personality, or is this something consequential? >> i think it's consequential. it's demeaning the office of the presidency. it also makes it harder for him to get stuff done. we don't see a great strategic coherence in the foreign policy. so far he's had trouble passing legislation. and even things like the immigration restrictions, i'll call them, that have come to

pass, seem sort of partly weirdly personal tweeted policy, as opponents to a well thought out policy. >> what do you think of the tweets? >> i think they're highly interesting tweets. i also think they're very important. i'm not in the camp of people who say they're just tweets. these are presidential statements. because everything a president says or writes is a presidential statement. and they are unique window into his actual thought process. and, and it's an interesting window and what we're seeing through the window is some pretty disconcerting stuff. and i think we have take them max mullaly serious. what his spokes people say doesn't matter compared to what he says himself. so we have to pay attention. >> you know, nancy, what i'm struck by is i don't think there's ever been a president this could be sesed with media coverage, with how he's covered, who's covering him. you look at the new yorker, it is a spoof on the fact that we're now learned that in five trump golf courses, there are made up -- there's a made up

cover of "time" magazine that was created to inflate his sense of himself. >> well, he has clearly said he cares a lot about being on the cover of "time" because he has said he's been on more than any other person in history, which is wildly not true. i'm not sure he wants to take that record away from richard nixon who holds it. but you know -- what's fascinating is that even in the midst of this war against fake news, and the failing "new york times" and all of the allegations that he leveled at media organizations there is also a greater focus and arguably accessibility to the media both through the tweets where everyone, not just reporters, but everyone gets to see straight in to the psyche. but the willingness to engage. this was true during the campaign, where it was extraordinarily accessible. and in a way it continues to be true even as we have these fights over white house briefings and are they on camera or not? the relationship is on the one hand more hostile than anything that we have seen. and on the other hand, more

arguably, enabling on each side. >> right. >> and codependent on each side. because the audience engagement in this presidency is unprecedented. >> dan, when you look at this as a republican strategist, what are the lessons you're getting? you watch the health care, you watch how the senate is reacting. what are the takeaways you're -- what are the trend lines here? >> well, first of all the tweets are both reprehensible, and probably just noise. because if you strip the rhetoric and the noise away, you have conventional republicans like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell trying to get a conventional, conservative health care reform passed. then they're going to work on a pretty conventional conservative tax reform plan. you know, we've got judge gorsuch confirmed. conservatives are happy with that. he may get another seat on the court to literally reshape the court. taking action in syria. just look at all these things, despite all the chaos and the noise you have a pretty conventional, republican agenda moving through congress. one thing that is clear, though,

the noise is causing is making the president less effective in terms of getting an agenda passed if he can do it is republicans are less concerned about being on the wrong side of him now. so you're seeing this now with health care. now i think mcconnell still, you know, maybe able to pull a rabbit out of the hat and pass something in the senate like ryan did in the house. but it's complicated. one of the reasons it's complicated is because republican senators and house members now much more so than in january, they now suddenly say if i'm on the wrong side of trump it's going to be okay. there's really no price to pay. >> do you think, walter, that a president, you know, in those first few months, you have this power that you know people are looking up to you, that awe, that admiration, part of that is with the country, part of it is with your own party. it must be -- he must be eroding that base of support, that kind of psych ologicological heft of oval office. >> he could have been a historically transformational president. if he'd come in and said i'm an independent. i think everybody in washington, all the establishments, have let

us down, and i'm going to come in and i'm going to have a very clear tax cut plan. i'm going to have a, you know -- would have started with infrastructure. the concept of starting with health care made no sense to me. and then starting with health care and doing it on a purely partisan basis makes even less sense. so if he'd come in and said i'm going to do infrastructure, we're going to make america great again. we're going to build an incredibly -- and i'm going to call in chuck schumer and i'm going to transcend all this ridiculousness we've had in washington he would have been historically transformational as being an independent president, and easily would have captured the agenda. >> but in fact what we ended up with, i think nancy is right, is a pretty conventional republican. you toss away a lot of this stuff, or no? >> pretty conventional on the domestic front. on foreign policy, truly innovative. i don't mean innovative in the sense of bringing a new set of ideas to the way that america should conduct its foreign

policy or the role that america should play in the world. i mean that he has no ideas about how america should behave in the world. other than that we are in a series of mercantile one-on-one relationships with other countries and we make our decisions, not based on american history, american values, even sometimes american broad scale american interests. he makes this decisions on purely mercantile, and i think the tweets contrary to what dan's saying, especially on foreign policy, those are the truest window in to where we are heading. i'm going to listen to a donald trump tweet about china's failure to raine in north korea more than i'm going to listen to 100 statements from rex tillerson. not that he makes 100 statements but if there is a senator who makes statements it doesn't matter compared to what the president is saying. >> we're going to have to take a break. when we come back, what does the world think of donald trump? well, the data is in. it's pretty grim. we will talk about it and what it means. ...on the perfect hotel. so wouldn't it be perfect if there was a single site where you could find the right hotel for you at the best price?

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i want to turn our attention now to america's place in the world today. it is at a place it's never been before. the pew research center released results this week from a survey of 37 nations, and it gets right to the point. at the end of the obama presidency, 64% of global respondents had confidence in the u.s. president. today that number is 22%. the only countries that have more confidence in trump than in obama were russia, and israel. we are back for a special edition of "gps" in aspen, colorado with walter isaacson, nancy gibbs, jeffrey goldberg and dan senor. dan, the last time we saw such low numbers was when your president, the man you worked for, george bush, was -- but it was really more about the iraq war. and it was about the sense that the war had gone horribly, and alienated the world.

what's striking about this is he's barely done anything, and he has numbers that -- that -- that took bush six years of a badly prosecuted iraq war to get to. >> i feel like much of the world is embarrassed for us. embarrassed watching -- watching what this man has -- is doing so far to the presidency on the one hand. that's the population. but these populations globally. but i think it's important to draw a distinction between them and their governments. if you spend time with officials in sunni gulf governments they say they'll take trump any day over the obama administration. certainly the israeli government's view. now certainly not europe's view. so i think it's important to draw distinction -- >> china for example they have a good working relationship with him? >> right. they're not exactly sure where things are going and you say look we have great meetings, he says all the right things behind closed doors, we're not sure what the follow-up is going to be. but they do like the change. >> i've got to ask you because we have two great experts on this, to go to the middle east to suddenly heroically, and in 12 hours produce peace between

the israelis and palestinians. >> i'm going to go a little contrary on this one, which is to say the following. well, baseline, there's no reason for any president to even try to pursue this right now. it's not possible. it's possible but it's not available right now so no point in wasting your time. that said there's nothing more absurd about sending your son-in-law to the middle east to try to -- than sending a series of ineffective secretaries of state. there is some value in the president sending a personal family emissary to a country where those kind of connections are valued. >> but at this point, at this time -- >> at this point -- >> for twelve hours -- >> the israeli/palestinian conflict is like the fifth most important conflict in the middle east right now. i would prefer the administration to be focused on the conflicts tearing apart the world, namely syria, iraq, yemen. it's a little bit of a vanity project. >> what i'm struck is the way in which it's ratcheted up everywhere because i guess the general's telling him give us a few more troops in afghanistan,

give us bigger bombs or more bombing in syria. but you know, let's do more to support the saudis in yemen. but what is the strategy? >> well, i do think that donald trump is somebody who inside really doesn't want to get us involved with more troops and more places. so as we slide in to afghanistan more and more, that seems odd to me that he hasn't stopped that. the strategy could be, i'm not sure, but it seems like he's decided to have a sunni coalition of saudi arabia and the gulf states, which, you know, means he's going to try to isolate qatar which has some drawbacks. if there were part of a coherent, thoughtout strategy you could argue that might be the way to approach it. if you think iran is the biggest threat in the region. but my problem with this administration is i'm not sure this is a clearly thought out strategy of let's have a sunni alliance with the united states, with saudi arabia, and the uae and the league.

but whether it's just something that got stumbled upon. >> nancy, what a lot of people point out is if you have these high disapproval ratings that trump has in all of these countries, the problem is, you know, it's not a popularity contest, international relations, but do you think that he cares about this -- he's somebody so obsessed with his image -- >> i think way in which he cares is that his focus on the comparison between him and president obama is intense. you -- you -- you almost never hear him talking about other former presidents. but -- but obama comes up all the time. and -- and so to the extent that obama was seen as a much more globalist figure, was welcomed with these enormous crowds, particularly, i mean won the nobel peace prize, okay he'd been in office for an hour and a half, i think that is the comparison that -- that this president finds haunting. >> before we go, i want to ask dan, come back to this issue of the rifts within the republican party. where do you think the republican party is on this issue of engagement with the world, leading the world,

bombing the hell out of the  world, you know, and just ignoring it? >> they, you know, as republicans historically have followed the lead on these things and their commander in chief. if they're commander in chief is quasi-isolationist, which is sort of how george w. bush ran in 2000. he changed after september 11th. republicans were on board with that campaign in 2000 and after september 11th they were all in. i think most republicans, members of congress today, you say when obama tried to do something in syria, most republican members of congress didn't want to do anything. that will be their inclination now, that's where trump is. but if trump is deferring and delegating to mattis and mcmaster which he clearly is doing which he did in syria and this troop increase in afghanistan -- >> they're both very aggressive. >> a lot of republicans say well, two generals, they served in afghanistan, they know something if trump is willing to get behind them, we'll get behind them. so i think they'll follow trump's lead. congressional republicans are not going to, by and large, there are exceptions, but by and large they are not going to lead

on foreign policy. they're going to follow trump. >> fascinating conversation. we've got to stop. we'll have to come back to aspen to discuss this. it's the only place we can do it. next on gps, america may be losing soft power but it is about to gain some real hard power. i will show you the most expensive ship ever built. when we come back. problem is, you'reith neterrible with names. there's pam, donny, comet and blitzen. wait, pretty sure those last two were reindeer. nice to see you, phabitha? is that even a real name? okay, this is the boss. you got this. anna!...yes! thank goodness for name tags. new clients? we've been there. and with breakfast on the run, we'll be there for you.

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this week marked the 20th anniversary of the publication of the first harry potter book. the series has sold over 450 million copies, and has inspired a generation of readers. it brings me to my question, what is widely considered to be the best-selling novel of all time? "the catcher in the rye"? "done kehoety," "david copperfield" or "les miserables"? stay tuned and we'll tell you

the answer. this week's book of the week is a movie. i just got around to seeing last year's documentary "i am not your negro." it is a fascinating into america's problem of race told through the story and the words of james baldwin, one of the most gifted of modern american writers. baldwin's courage, his passion, his elegance, all come through in the short compelling movie. you can rent it at most of the usual places. now for the last look. or rather a first look at the united states' newest aircraft carrier. this is the "gerald ford" the first of a new class of super carriers. after twelve years in the making the ship was delivered to the navy just over a month ago. what makes this new class special, well, at almost $13 billion, it is the single most expensive warship ever built. and is much more powerful than the old nimitz class in use since 1975. critics of the "uss gerald ford" say the ship is too costly with

too many delays and a lot of questionable technology. but as president trump said from the deck -- >> this ship will make an extraordinary addition to the fleet. like no other. like no other. anywhere in the world, there's nothing like this. >> when it comes to aircraft carriers, america's might is not exactly challenged. no nation in the world has more than one aircraft carrier that is active except of course the u.s. when the "gerald ford" is commissioned later this month it will eleven. so the old adage that he who controls the sea controls everything holds true, american military dominance will likely be safe for decades to come. the answer to my gps challenge is "b," don quixote by miguel decervantes is widely considered to be the best selling novel of all time. it enjoyed a head start on just about every other novel because many consider it to be the first modern novel. part one was published in 1605

and translated from spanish to english just seven years later. today some estimates put the book's total cumulative sales at 500 million copies affirming that the knight achieved the everlasting glory he so desperately thought. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. >> i'm brian stelter and this is reliable sources. how the media really works, how the news gets made. today we have a special program for you. as president trump's war with the media gets even more personal. the president is grappling with senate republicans who missed a self-imposed deadline on health care. he's preparing for a staredown this week with russian president vladimir putin. but on twitter he's wrestling with -- us. look at this video from his twitter account this morning. this is a wwe wrestle mania video from years ago when trump