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three weeks early. beating his deadline. we're told everyone is happy and healthy. congratulations tarson family! >> always on time and in fact, a little bit early. perfect peanut there, wes. >> thanks for joining us this morning i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. >> together we are facing the threat of the reckless and bu tral regime in north korea. >> this is likely an icbm. >> we need to know what the strategy is of how we're going to deal with this. >> the president may be realizing that his options in this world are very limited. >> it's going to take a worldwide effort to get north korea to stop what they're doing. >> any patriot ought to care about the foreign interference. it is very con spike wous that this president has chosen to
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deny it and not to discuss it with russian officials. >> our relationship with russia is not different from any other country. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo. >> all right. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." it's wednesday, july 5th, 6:00 here in new york and on the starting line, north korea releasing new video appearing to show the successful launch of its first intercontinental ballistic missile. the pentagon confirming it was an icbm. secretary of state rex tillerson saying the u.s. will never accept a nuclear armed north korea amid calls for global actionments the question is, what will the u.s. do to make good on that kmicommitment? the immediate answer, the u.s. and south korea conducting joint military exercises. the u.n. security council meeting in an emergency meeting
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in response to the regime's most alarming provocation to date. all this as president trump heads to europe in roughly two hours for the second foreign trip of his presidency. it's the g-20 summit and all eyes will be on his first face to face encounter with russia's president vladimir putin. this is an official bilateral meetin meeting. the president also expected to face tough questions with some of the u.s.'s closest allies. we are all of this for you. what's the latest, barbara? >> reporter: good morning. well, north korea now issuing more video of that intercontinental ballistic missile launch showing the world more of what it's got and it may have caught the u.s. in just a little bit by surprise. the initial u.s. announcement was it was a shorter range missile. then they went back and looked at all the data and spent most of july fourth trying to figure out what had happened. then issuing a statement, yes, this was a north korean icbm, a
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missile capable of hitting the united states. this is exactly what the pentagon, secretary of defense said north korea would not be allowed to have. so what happens now? well, late yesterday, the pentagon came back with its own korean weapons systems firing off the east coast of south korea. very much as you look at that u.s. video, a message back north. this is a u.s. system. it is a missile that can fire about 200 miles deep into north korea. this is a missile in combat that could be used to take out north korean infantry, air defense sites, communications nodes, fixed missile launchers, so it's very calculated to send that message to north korea that we, too, also have missiles we can reach deep inside your country. but the pentagon says it's trying to avoid escalation. the real question now is what
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happens next. >> we'll be exploring that all morning. meanwhile amid the north korean tension president trump heads to europe in roughly two hours for the second foreign trip of his presidency and he starts in poland before moving on to the g-20 summit in germany where all eyes will be on his first face-to-face encounter with vladimir putin. it's an official, bilateral meeting, not an informal pull aside. cnn's suzanne malveaux is live at the white house for us with what all of this means. >> good morning. it's less than two hours from departure time. president trump will first be heading to poland, his first stop of his european trip, and this is a trip, an overseas excursion, that has now taken even more importance in light of that north korean nuclear test. president trump departing on his second international tour, one day after the pentagon confirmed that north korea launched an air
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continental ballistic missile, one that analysts say could reach alaska. north korean dictator kim jong-un, taunting the united states, saying the launch was a fourth of july present to the trump administration. as the u.s. responds with both the military and diplomatic show of force, calling for an emergency session at the united nations security council to be held today. followed by a strongly worded statement from secretary of state rex tillerson, stressing that global action is required to stop a global threat and declaring that the u.s. will enact stronger measures against the north korean regime. tillerson's hardline stance in stark contrast to this terse 23-word statement following panghyon's missile launch in april. >> the president has made clear to us that he will not accept a nuclear power in north korea. >> reporter: north korea's aggression, likely to dominate discussion during this weekend's g-20 summit in hamburg, germany,
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including his first official bilateral meeting with russian president vladimir putin, and his second meeting with chinese president xi jinping. putin and xi joining diplomatic forces and releasing their own plan to defuse tensions with north korea after a meeting in moscow tuesday. calling for a moratorium on nuclear and missile tests while also urging the united states and south korea to stop conducting joint military exercises and specifically condemning the deployment of u.s. missile defense systems in the region. the white house tells cnn there is no official agenda for president trump's meeting with putin. although pressure is mounting for trump to directly address russia's interference in the 2016 election, though, officials say it is unlikely. >> what is the trump administration's strategy for countering all of this russian aggression? they don't have one. >> reporter: president trump set to meet with skeptical european leaders seeking reassurance
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about america's commitment to nato, after president trump chose not to affirm his support for the alliance in may. >> 23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying, and what they're supposed to be paying for their defense. >> reporter: the president's unpopularity in the region already sparking protests with thousands expected to converge on hamburg during the summit. many europeans are also upset at the trump administration's decision to pull out of the paris climate agreement, and that we have heard from the chinese government's press agency just yesterday saying that russia and china will move forward, pledging to implement that agreement anyway. chris, alison? >> all right. plenty of lot of issues on the table. let's bring in the panel and discuss what this trip will look like. cnn politics reporter editor at large chris sew liz za, military
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analyst cedric lleyton and comment men tater errol lewis. this is the second trip. it seems to be sh roded in a little mystery about what the agenda is with whom and what time and centers around a legit meeting the g-20 but how do you see the stakes here? >> the stakes are high. we do not know what principled realism means. that's the title the administration has given to its foreign policy in some broad sense. we don't know what the president is going to do as far as translating what he has said as the need for better relationships with the -- with the russians in order to fight isis, how does that translate into a face-to-face discussion? we know from his oval office conversation with the foreign minister that he feels a great deal of pressure because of these questions around the election. what does that mean now? that pure, if anything, has intensified since then. how will that manifest itself? will he be transparent about it? >> what kind of conversation are we going to see him have about these very important domestic issues? and the fact that mcmaster said
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he often will sort of free lance in these sort of settings doesn't give, you know, us a great deal of insight or frankly comfort that he's going to do something that is in keeping with sort of an orderly, strategic process of advancing foreign policy. it may just be kind of the politics of the moment. >> so politics of the moment, colonel, leads us to north korea. this has now, obviously, taken center stage. this is what global leaders will have to be dealing with. when we had you on yesterday i know that you were hoping against hope that this would not be an intercontinental missile. now it has been confirmed by the u.s. that it was. so now what? >> well, this is really the game changer that people have been waiting for with bated breath, so i think what we're seeing here is a situation where north korea has basically put its cards on the table and said, these are the things that we're going to do, we have known that they were going to do this, it was just a question of time. now the remaining question is,
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can they actually nuclearize this intercontinental ballistic missile? so with that, that is really the destabilizing factor for at least east asia, the korean peninsula, but it can affect the relationships around the world. president trump's challenge is going to be to really get china and russia to help box in north korea, but so far there's basically no leverage because the chinese want to keep north korea exactly the way it is. they don't want a stream of refugees coming out of north korea, should that regime collapse, they don't want to see anything like a german unification, and it looks less likely they're going to be able to convince the chinese or the russians to go along with any kind of moderating force on the korean peninsula. >> chris, that then raises the issue of whether or not this missile changes the game? because to this point, we've had
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the trump administration try to advance the posture on north korea from where the obama administration was, they ratcheted up the rhetoric, no more, no toll her rance, and they came out with that terse statement, we've said enough, won't say anything else. the only thing that seems to have changed they have a different munition, north korea, but does that change the politics or the possibilities for what the united states can do to make good on its new, tough talk? >> well, yeah. i mean that's the question. errol i thought makes the point which is what is different? what does saying that strategic patience is over mean from a strategic military perspective? because at the moment, what we've done in regards to north korea is talk quite tough but they do not appear to be fazed by it, right. this is clearly a provocation, clearly timed around both our independence day and this g-20 summit, and i don't know the answer to what donald trump will
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do once provoked. we know what he does once provoked sort of domestically. he punches back. that's his thing. i don't know what he'll do from a foreign policy perspective, chris, because frankly, look, when you elect a guy who has not had any previous experience in elected office or in the military, first person ever, we don't really know, donald trump has not outlined and did not really outline beyond we're going to be tougher with them, what he would do with north korea. so we don't have a policy per se. i'm not sure we get one this -- the rest of this week, but i do think at some point if your brand is built on this idea that there was too much talking before, there was too much tolerance of this stuff before, there is somewhat of an onus on you to say, okay, we're going to do things differently. what are those things we're going to do differently beyond just talk? >> well, there's an emergency meeting being called at the u.n.
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ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley, tweeted this, yesterday at 5:00 p.m., spending my fourth in meetings all day, #thanksnorth korea. i mean, that's an interesting tone. sort of trump-like, quite frankly. >> sure. >> but what can she do? >> well, she can do what the u.s. always has committed to up until now, which is to sort of say, diplomacy is our strongest weapon. they have missiles, we have diplomacy. we have sort of morality on our side. we have ethics on our side. the fact that this principled realism of this administration has sort of thrown aside human rights, you know, at a minimum, he's sort of discards an important card that he could have played. so i mean, yes, you have the security council, we'll hear all of the usual talk about the need to keep stability, keep a denuclearized region in place and to have more discussion, but that's exactly what trump said he wasn't going to do. that there wasn't going to be
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any more patience, there wasn't going to be any more talking. so it will be, if not an empty exercise, a very brief one i would think. >> look, as the president continues his education curve -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> same thing about health care. actually things don't change, he changes his reckoning of them as he has to come to grip with reality. colonel, on health care, the president said, more complicated than people thought. no more complicated than he knew at the time. similarly, you just had china and russia come out and condemn the u.s. military exercises with south korea. that's not showing the kind of progress that we hoped for in this situation, but it does show the reality. so as the reality here sinks in you can talk all you want, north korea is going to keep doing what it does. what are the potential options now with this meeting with russia? they say north korea will be on the table. where can those talks go? >> chris, that's a great question. i think the real answer is going
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to be we have to recognize that china and russia are, in essence, combining forces here. they've done that before. go all the way back to the korean war, and they obviously had combined forces at that time. for right now, what president trump will need to do is he'll need to focus on how he can best leverage their abilities with north korea and keep everything contained. what does that mean? well, i think things like the military exercise, the anti-missile defense exercise, that they held in south korea, that is a start. those are the kinds of things that, in essence, back up the rhetoric with force. that is unfortunately i think what president trump is going to find he is confined to, and that will i think change his outlook and make him realize that, in fact, strategic politics, fwee owe strategy is more complicated than he first realized. >> by the way, just quickly, the colonel makes the right point, and this is true on a number of domestic issues and now true on foreign policy, that campaign promises made by donald trump
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don't often reflect governing realities. the idea that well, we're just going to handle the north korea thing and they'll understand we're more serious because i'm donald trump, not barack obama, if there were simple solutions, other presidents would have taken them, right. this is -- these are not easy matters. it's like health care here stateside. if there was a simple conservative solution to solve health care, some conservative leader would have already proposed it. the reality of the situation is, rhetorically you can talk about how we'll solve all these things, but there is a reason they have not been solved because, particularly as it relates to north korea, there are a number of geopolitical interests that simply do not align with ours and we can't just make people do things that they don't believe is in their interest to do. >> all right. panel, thank you very much for all of those insights. >> we have another big story for you this morning. for all of the realities about the russian interference during the election, that's not where
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the president's attention has been in terms of looking at our election system. he has a voter fraud commission. you remember this, the 3 million illegal votes he leaned on so heavily to explain the popular election outcome. well what's going on with this commission? is it just a political move to substantiate those baseless claims? why are states refusing to turn over data and why is the man heading up the commission now accused of ethics violations. all those answers ahead. ♪ so nice, so nice. ♪sweet, sweet st. thomas nice. ♪ so nice, so nice. ♪st. croix full of pure vibes. ♪ so nice, so nice.
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president trump's voter fraud commission is engaging hurdles. a suit to block the request to turn over registered voters as 44 states refuse to comply with some of the commission's requests. back with us the panel, chris, errol, and bring in bloomberg news white house reporter shannon. great to see all of you. shannon, what's going on here? why does the white house seem to set up these things that then immediately there are lawsuits launched against? it seems that they could have done some research to figure out how they could ask questions, for some voter information that is public, that wouldn't run
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afoul of the law. >> it does remind you almost of the travel ban where people are asking themselves could a lawyer have looked at this, a few lawyers, maybe you could have bounced this off the secretary of state first, but there is this desire in this white house to move fast, shoot from the hip and they keep sort of going out of their way to step on these various land mines that once again create controversy, create concern among at love people, including member -- a lot of people, including members in their party, and find themselves having to clean up them rather than talking about the things they would like to talk about like the president's agenda. >> the problem here is, you can have problem with social security numbers, last four digits, we have a secretary of state from missouri today, he says his law compells him to show this information, it doesn't. your bigger problem is political. you've seen this before, during the bush era, they went after this farce of illegal votes and it led to all these prosecutors
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quitting, you had attorney general alberto gonzales wound up resigning over this, because the cases weren't there to be made. is there a second line to this story in terms of what this commission is about other than the obvious, which is trying to put meat on the bones of a b.s. allegation. >> that's right. they're trying to put meat on the bones of a b.s. allegation. they're trying i think also to sort of show us that they can move quickly. this is done by executive order and, you know, as shannon points out, they move so quickly they, obviously, didn't sort of look at it because it's a narrow point they're sort of getting jammed up on here, they're supposed to issue a privacy impact statement. show us you thought about what the implications for privacy would be. they didn't bother to do that, hence the lawsuit. then there is this question about voter suppression being really sort of the end goal of all of this and there's a strong live of it in all of this because if you stop and think about it, how the thing was put
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together, in such haste, look for the things they're looking for, party affiliation -- >> they're saying it's about stopping voter fraud, but these efforts go to voter suppression? >> absolutely. absolutely. because this in some respects, i think the advocates that are calling it suppression or the prelude to suppression have a point which is that this is intended to sort of put up this sort of cloud of wrongdoing which will then give individual states, which is where elections are really controlled anyway, give them the predicate to sort of say, you know, no more early voting or we're not going to accept all kinds of different i.d. we're going to make it harder and harder for people to register and get their votes counted. this seems to be really kind of what the end goal is, and, of course, kris kobach's personal history leads you to conclude this is something he's been associated with all along. >> chris, quickly, the strange thing about this cloud of
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suspicion about whether or not there's vast voter fraud is we've had many secretaries of state -- >> there isn't. >> right. >> these are the people who would know, these are the people in the states who control the voting and whether it's fraudulent or whether it's, you know, honest. >> and they're republicans and democrats. >> absolutely. and they all say, we don't have it in our state. we don't see it. >> according to the data, this is a solution in search of a problem. i mean, there's no other way to put it, alisyn. there's -- there's been extensive studies done, not one, not partisan, extensive studies done of elections and alleged voter fraud and the simple fact is, is that to the extend they found mistakes they're almost always, 99.99% of the time attributable to human error, that there is no malicious intent here. this has been something that republicans talked about before donald trump, but it is something that donald trump, and this is true with a lot of things, donald trump has brought
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more light to, the 3 million to 5 million people that voted illegally, the claim that is not factually accurate in the 2016 election, so again, this is -- there is -- it is important to note this, there has never been a study that has suggested there is widespread voter fraud in elections. there just hasn't. . when you have hundreds of millions of votes cast, there are going to be some errors. you know, 65, 70 million votes, there's going to be errors here, a ballot -- series of ballots are misread, things are left out, but it is never been proven or come close to being proven that this is in some way, again, malicious, intended, and that's what -- go away from the oddness of the request -- some of the requests for data from kris kobach, the broader thing here is, what is the problem we're
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trying to solve for? because it doesn't seem like, based on the objective data, there is this problem. >> you think you would want to deal with the problem you have all these eligible voters in the country that don't vote. you would think you would want to be increasing participation. so another issue that came up here -- >> something remarkable i thought happened yesterday, it thought it was remarkable that cnn found the reddit user who created the gif of donald trump and the wrestling video and where he punches cnn, so the investigative team went back and found the guy who created this he took credit for it, and here comes the remarkable part, he apologized. he apologized for having done this. how often do you hear someone who creates a video that goes viral, then say this, this is what he told cnn, i would like to apologize for the posts made that were racist, bigoted and anti-semitic, other posts on his account. i am in no way this kind of
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person and would never support any kind of violence or actions against others simply for what they believe in or carry out any violence against anyone based upon that or support anyone he did. he went on. he was so -- >> why is there so much stuff on his account? >> he deleted it. >> why was it there in the first place? >> he says he thought these things were funny, liked getting a rise out of people. >> they were so obvious in terms of what they were hateful of. >> he had become addicted to the hate, the gining up of people. this is what happens. >> a medical condition. >> honestly. the reason i think this is so notable, chris, this is a full-throated honest apology. he asked we not reveal his name or whereabouts and we at cnn are honoring that because he's apologized and he thinks he would then be in danger and at risk if other people knew his name. we get it. we understand that. i don't know, i just think that this is just a very interesting
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addendum to this whole story. >> it was certainly not the outcome i would have thought once we tracked him down. you know, and i think it's actually a nice thing. i would remind people, unless i'm mistaken, i saw quotes coming out of the white house over the weekend saying, this -- donald trump did not get this image from reddit. so, where did it come from? i mean, you know, i hate to say it, i think it's almost certain he did, but then why is the white house saying he didn't. i mean, you know, this -- i took, sorry, alisyn, a nice thing, a guy at least being willing to say i shouldn't have done this -- >> when exposed and identified he then decided to apologize for multiple entries on his account. >> i get that. >> that all go to the same hate. >> a lot of people don't apologize even when exposed. i see this as a possible glimmer of hope. >> the point is, why is the white house on the record saying that's not where he got it from? he got it from somewhere. right. donald trump didn't build that
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gif. i hope. i hope he has better things to do. it came from somewhere. and if this guy is saying yeah, i did it, and it's me, i shouldn't have done it, why is the white house saying that's not it. where did it come from? this is going to get overshadowed and rightly so, frankly, the g-20, north korea, the stuff we talked about in the first segment, but it is just one of the many logical inconsistencies that come out of the white house that there's so many, frankly, it's hard to cover them all. >> that's a segment for a different day, chris. >> fair enough. >> thank you, shannon, errol. breaking news to get to in new york city, a 12-year veteran of the nypd shot and killed in what authorities say was an unprovokesed attack. the latest on what happened here next. ♪
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quote, an unprovoked attack. 48-year-old officer miosotis familia was sitting in a marked mobile command vehicle in the bronx when a gunman opened fire through a window, shooting the 12-year veteran in the head. two other officers confronted the suspect identified as alexander bonds running a block away. police say the officer shot and killed bonds after he pulled out a gun. >> we want to be careful here. they're investigating this as an assassination. not that weapon went off and happened to find its way through an open window. we will stay on it. the assailant is dead, but there will be more facts to be had there and it's very important in terms of reckoning how to keep our police safe. another story in salt lake city, police are searching for a hit-and-run driver who plowed into people on a crowded sidewalk, wound up killing somebody, injuring five others. the female driver ran from the scene tuesday evening after hitting all these people, scattering shoes and bags and a
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wheelchair, before smashing into a tree. police believe at least two victims had been living on that sidewalk. >> okay. if you went to sleep early as i had to, here are your fireworks displays. millions of people across the u.s. celebrating america's birthday last night, some 60,000 shells were launched in new york city for the macy's fireworks show. look at how protein that is. in the nation's capital, hundreds of thousands of people turned out for the fireworks display over the national mall. >> they did a nice job. you know, there's so many fireworks over the last four or five days because we had a weird fourth of july in the middle, but they've been dealing with low cloud ceilings around here which really kills fireworks. they did a nice job last night. >> it's so beautiful. it does make you feel patriotic. i love watching fireworks. i hope you got to see them. >> the ram parts in a safe way. president trump is preparing for this big-time face-to-face meeting at the g-20 summit with vladimir putin. what must he say to the russian
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all right. in less than two hours president trump is going to head to europe for tomorrow's g-20 summit in germany. first he's going to stop in poland. during that summit he will have a bilateral meeting with russian president vladimir putin. looming large will be north korea taking its testing to a
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new level with the successful intercontinental ballistic missile launch. let's bring in cnn military and diplomatic analyst retired rear admiral john kirby. good to have you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> so let's look at the latest in the state of play. the united states is looking to muscle up in posture, looking for its friends to muscle up in boxing in north korea. looks like the opposite is happening with its most muscular players in this space, which would be russia and china. look at this statement they just put out. put it on the screen, please. the two sides propose that the dprk, that's north korea, obviously, has a voluntary political decision declares a moratorium on testing nuclear explosive devices and ballistic rockets launches and the u.s. and south korea accordingly refrain if carrying out joint exercises. both sides confirm that deployment of thaad deteriorates the security of regional states. this is a not north korea the
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time has come, it's a, both sides stand down. this is not what the u.s. was looking for from china and/or russia. >> i'm not surprised that that kind of statement came out of moscow, and frankly, i'm not all that surprised it came out of china, but it is certainly, you're right, not exactly the sort of tone that we were looking for to come out of china. what we really wanted was china to be more helpful in terms of putting pressure on the north. but look, this statement, there's a lot of nonstarters in this thing. obviously we're not going to stop exercising with the republic of korea. we just did it, yesterday, right, in response to this latest ibcm launch and we're certainly not going to remove thaad from the peninsula. thaad is defensive and serves an important purpose. >> what is it also a window into? the russian posture coming into the meeting between the united states leader and the russian leader, whether it's syria, ukraine, or a host of issues around the region, russia has
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done nothing but continue its aggression, even with the u.s. president calling for better relations. so what do you see as the musts of this meeting between the two men? >> i think there's about four things i really think he has to say, and i know he may not say all of them. one he has to look putten in the eye and say we're not going to tolerate meddling in our elections. i understand he doesn't want to say things about 2016, but we have an election in '18 and '20 and they will try it again and he needs to put them on notice. number two, he's got to bring up ukraine and the bigger issue there is territorial integrity on the continent of europe. the first stop is in warsaw. a done months ago we deployed a thousand troops there on a rotational basis. he needs to make clear to europe and through this meeting with putin we're going to stand with them and we're going to back them up and nato and article 5 matters to us. number three he has to talk about syria. and i understand syria is on the
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agenda but the message to russia and syria stop propping up assad, stop perpetuating civil war, if you're serious, help us go after isis and quit propping up the assad regime and making the civil war last longer. lastly, we talked about it already, north korea, i think his message is look, if you want a stable region and a stable peninsula, as that statement said they do, the way to do this is to help us put more international pressure on pyongyang to try to change their calculus. >> what about just the raw practicalities here, you want him to go and get face to face with a guy not looking to do anything helpful to the united states to begin with, and give him a list of demands like that, isn't he going to get four nos? >> probably. yeah. but chris, that's -- look these bilats, he's not going to come out with any deals or any specific tangible outcomes. it's the first meeting. so because it's their first meeting this is a great opportunity for the president to
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show leadership on the world stage, to show putin that he's not going to be intimidated. the united states is still influential and powerful. this is his opportunity to make those points and that's really what a bilat particularly a first will be all about. the other thing he needs to do is red team this a little bit and i'm sure they are, to think about what putin is going to come back to him with. putin will certainly raise the issue of the compounds here in maryland and wanting his diplomats back in the country. he's going to pick on us for syria and not, you know, cooperating enough with the russian military. they need to red team their way through that so they can answer putin's complaints. >> now, the white house would have the american people believe that the notion that european leaders are sideways with president trump is all fake news, media creation, what is the reality of the need for a re-set when the president meets with the leaders at the g-20? >> i think it's serious. there's no fake news to the fact that some of our closest allies
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and partners are publicly questioning u.s. commitment to safety and security on the continent and, in fact, even our global leadership. that's not fake news. you can see it in their speeches and public interviews and comments and i think this is an opportunity for him to try to repair some of the damage that he did when he went to brussels and refused to proclaim our commitment to article 5. he needs to take this opportunity to, as i said, to convince the continent that we are with them. he needs to say to our allies and partners, particularly in poland when he goes there to today, say to them what he said to the military families on the south lawn last night, we have your back. >> one quick clarification. you don't think that the president really backed away from article 5, did you? it wasn't as full throated as some wanted him to. >> he later said he committed to it. it's the kind of thing that you need to keep saying, particularly president trump needs to keep saying, because his -- his commitment to global leadership, particularly from a defense perspective, is wanting.
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so i think he needs to continue to say this. one thing i didn't get to talk about what i don't want to hear him say. what i don't want to hear him say any time on this trip is more complaining about burden sharing. the polls are contributing to the alliance as everybody else, maybe not to the same degree as the united states, but he has to stop this whining about burden sharing. >> john kirby, appreciate it. thank you very much. alisyn? >> chris, they do not call him jaws for nothing. joey chestnut, king of competitive eaters, okay, i am going to avert my eyes, crushing it at the nathan's hot dog eating contest. this is a sport. >> he says he has more in him, by the way. jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com.
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all right. on the fourth of july could you hear them, the squeaks of pleasure coming out of john berman as the celtics got a new star on their roster. only you would say ew. you don't gets the sports report. coy wire has more in this morning's "bleacher report." they got a big pick-up in celtic land. >> they did. good morning to you. john berman was tweeting gordon
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hayward yesterday that's how excite head was. teams were rolling out the red carpet courting hayward with banners, billboards and dollars. the all-star forward said this was the toughest decision of his life but he chose the celt ticks and a four-year deal with a reported $128 million. hayward's new teammate and fellow all-star isiah thomas was so happy he went into the kitchen and took off his shirt and started dancing. the celtics fans, they were quite happy as well, but jazz fans on the other hand, hayward's former team, they didn't like this decision. instead of firing up the grill on the fourth of july they were firing up his old jerseys, setting them aflame. and alisyn and "newsroo day" fa out there, avert your eyes if you're easily nauseated. joey chestnut gobbled down 72 hot dogs to redeem champion at nathan's famous hot dog eating contest, the tenth time winning the event and raising the
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mustard belt. he beat his own record by 2, 72 hot dogs, equals about 15 pounds, the size of a thanksgiving turkey. stack 72 end on end it would be 38 feet high, three stories high. imagine that. >> can i look now? >> i don't know why you didn't look the whole time. >> it is gross to watch somebody consume those. >> this is competition. and that wetting down method makes the difference. he says he has more in him, joey chestnut. how many can you take down? >> i took down one. i never had a nathan's hot dog, it was good, but threw down two double cheeseburgers on top of that. >> that's almost the competitive level, coy. impressive. >> he could eat six, one for each one of his well-defined abdominals. thanks, coy. >> great. president trump has spent more than 20% of his time as president at his golf courses. remember when he railed against president obama for golfing? we compare the numbers.
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play golf. >> he played more golf last year than tiger woods. this guy plays more golf than people on the pga tour. i love golf i think it's one of the greats i don't have time. if i were in the white house i don't think i would ever see turnberry or doral again. i'm not going to be playing much golf, believe me. if i win this i'm not going to be playing much golf. >> well that was then, this was now. of president trump's 165 days in office, 36 of them, as best we can tell, have been spent at trump golf properties. this is not about golf, it's about transparency and hypocrisy. talk about it with cnn political commentator and former senior adviser to the trump campaign jack kingston and ambassador norm eisen, a former white house ethics czar and brookings institution fellow. great to see you. >> thanks, alisyn. >> good morning. >> jack, do you see any hypocrisy in president trump's stance? >> i definitely see a two-step but i have to say, alisyn, this is still red meat for the red
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meat crowd. we jumped on obama. obama spent $85 million on total family vacations during his eight years. president bush caught grief every time he went to crawford. regan caught grief when he went out to california to his ranch. this is par for the course. but i'll say this -- >> no pun intended. >> no, no pun whatsoever. presidents really never do vacation. they are -- they just change venues. >> yeah. >> so wherever they are they're still conducting business and i just think that the president's found out you just got to keep going and sometimes golf -- >> i mean, i hear you, jack. i understand. i know golf, who cares really. it's just that the numbers are striking. so let's just pull it up so we really know what we're talking about. "the new york times" crunched the numbers in the first 99 days in office, of president trump's predecessors, george w. bush played golf 0 times, president obama, who as you know, president donald trump said was, you know, only golfing, played it once, bill clinton loved golf and played it five times,
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president trump in the first 99 days, played it 19 times. so, jack, do you think that's note worthy? >> i think it is to some degree. i mean i want to point out something about bush, bush actually quit playing golf because we had soldiers with boots on the ground as opposed to obama who was playing golf when american journalist was beheaded and that was an image nobody would want. >> do you think that president trump should ratchet it back? >> i think as long as the economy is strong, unemployment is going down, the stock market is going up and we're cracking down on the illegal immigration, i think that people are going to be okay with his golf. i really do. red meat crowds are always going to criticize whether they're democrats or republicans. we absolutely did it to clinton and obama and, you know, just part of politics. >> norm, how do you see it? >> well, i see it a little differently from my friend jack,
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alisyn. the problem is, that none of the vacations or breaking balls that the others took, the other presidents took, were at their own properties. we're not just talking about the stinch of hypocrisy, it does smell, it's so wrong, but also the fact that constitution does not prohibit the president to be taking in the benefits, the cash, that the government is spending on him, he's turned the presidency with 36 days at his golf properties and 50 days in total at all of his properties into an infomercial. that's against the domestic emoluments clause. it gets worse because that contem contempt and disregard for the constitution, which by the way i think has something to do with his mid-30s approval ratings, the american people don't like
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it. >> yeah. >> it has led to a larger pattern of illegality in the trump administration. this is not just about the hypocrisy. when you start your presidency by violating the constitution, of course, you're going to do muslim ban and obstruction -- >> what's illegal about him playing golf at his golf clubs? >> the constitution provides that the president's compensation shall only be limited to his official salary. he's forcing the federal government to spend millions of dollars -- millions of dollars -- >> at his golf courses or just to protect him? >> it's not just at his golf courses. remember it's 36 days at the golf courses, 50 days total. >> okay. >> it's two things. one is, yes, every time the president moves, it forces spending. there's collateral spending. forces the states -- >> that's not illegal. >> that's not illegal. >> well wait a minute. wait a minute. >> none of this is illegal. >> he's using the difference
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with president trump and everybody who's preceded him, is they haven't gone to their own properties. and he's using the oval office as a giant infomercial. >> go ahead. >> he is a multibillionaire, not in the presidency to make money. that's ridiculous. now he it would be illegal if he was violating the emoluments clause. he's exempt from a lot of the things you're talking about. and all these would-be president, attorney general, district attorneys for the states would be suing him right and left if there was a case here. >> wait a minute. >> some of them are and it's silly and going to be thrown out. >> jack -- >> hold on a second. this is actually a deeper conversation than i thought when we were just going to be talking about their golf game. we'll have you guys back to talk about all of this and how it relates to the emoluments clause. thank you very much. >> we'll fight it out on the golf course, norm. >> thanks, jack. >> let's do that. thanks to our international viewers for watching.
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