this may go faster. we don't know what's underground, too. that's another fear, but still progress fast. >> nick paton walsh, please stay safe. thank you very much for watching tonight. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next, he said he said. the white house has one version of the trump/putin meeting and the kremlin another. >> plus, trump wants to move on from russian meddling, but how does the united states move on when more russian spies are moving in. and rick perry mocked for his to con 101 lesson. what's that supply and demand theory again? who's right? let's go outfront. good eve inniningevening. trump versus putin, who is telling the truth. president trump opening up about his first sit down with slvladir put putin. now, according to the secretary

of state, rex tillerson, who was the only other american agent in the room, trump raised the concerns of the american people. putin denied the meddling and the russian foreign minister who was the only other russian official in the room said trump, quote, heard and accepted putin's denial. so this is obviously stunning, right? did the president of the united states accept putin's word against that of america's top intelligence officers? it is a fair question because here's president trump just 24 hours ago. >> i think it was russia, but i think it was probably other people and/or countries and i see nothing wrong with that statement. nobody really knows. nobody really knows for sure. >> except for they do. and tonight a senior white house official is firing back at putin's version saying it's not true. trump didn't accept the russian president's denial. here's one thing we do know, that trump says it was an honor

to meet vladimir putin. >> president putin and i have been discussing various things, and i think it's going very well. we look forward to a lot of very positive things happening to russia and the united states and for everybody concerned and it's an honor to be with you. thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. the meeting between the two lasted for two hours and 15 minutes, which is a really important point. i say that because it was only scheduled for 45 minutes. jeff zeleny is out front traveling with the president tonight. jeff, look, obviously two very different versions. i think it is really important for the american people to know which one is true. but no matter which is, the trump administration is saying this meeting was a great success. >> reporter: well, good evening, erin. it is not always that unusual after a bilateral meeting like this, a meeting between two leaders, there to be different versions of events, particularly

when there are only six people in that room, the two presidents, their secretaries of state and translators. the white house without question is explaining this as a win. and i think in some respects it is in the sense that they had that long of a meeting. there is no doubt that relations are at, you know, at very low levels between these two super powers. so the fact that these presidents are talking together, that is certainly a good thing. but when you break down what they talked about, about syria, of course, there are some developments there, a potential cease fire in parts of syria. on that election interference, the fact that the president brought it up certainly will, you know, kind of get rid of the elephant in the room, if you will. but how he brought it up is still going to be dissected in many ways here. he used the language that this concerns the american people. he never said as far as we know that this concerns him. and the reality here is that he, you know, has reacted with so much more vigor and so much more anger in his attacks against

virtually everyone else than vladimir putin over this. once republicans in congress and democrats as well start dissecting this, that will be one issue we're already hearing some concern about that the president was not forceful enough about this election meddling. and the reality here is i was at that briefing with secretary of state rex tillerson. he said they agreed to work forward to eliminate cyber attacks and election hacks in the future. but unless the president says he is concerned about it and he is taking this seriously, hard to imagine vladimir putin will as well. but so interesting melania trump. he came into the meeting an hour in and was seeing how it was going, trying to get them to wrap up. they ended up going for an hour longer than that. but tonight she was sitting at dinner next to slvladimir putint dinner. who knows if melania trump is now playing a key role in this key diplomatic dance. >> thank you very much. matthew, look, it is really

important which of these versions is true, and the russians say that what happened in that meeting between putin and trump was trump acknowledged and accepted that the russians didn't meddle in the 2016 election, right? >> reporter: right. well, the russian foreign minister says that president trump accepted the statements made by vladimir putin, the russian president, that russia was not involved in the hacking in the involvement in disruption of the u.s. political system, the u.s. election. he went on, and he's been quoted in state media saying that actually trump said that the involvement, the extent of the involvement by russia in the election hacking had been exaggerated in some circles. so that's what's being reported here in the state media in russia. that president trump actually sort of made that additional concession during that meeting with president putin as well saying that russia's role has been exaggerated.

that kind of tallies with what president trump has been saying all along. we both know he's never fully accepted what u.s. intelligence agencies say, which is that these election hacks were the responsibilities of the work of russia. >> thank you very much, matthew. as you point out he hasn't. everyone heard the president say nobody really knows. nobody really knows for sure, except for his own intelligence agencies which all say beyond a doubt they do know for sure. >> member of the house intelligence committee. congressman, these are two extremely different versions of the putin/trump meeting. putin's version trump accepts that putin didn't do anything. trump's version he did not accept president putin's claim. who do you believe, congressman? >> i think there is an opportunity now. the ball is in the president's court to refute what the foreign minister has said. it's true that the president accepted vladimir putin's account, then we should know that. and if the president doesn't believe that what they are saying is true, he should say

no, icon fronted vladimir putin and said we know what they did and it's not acceptable. but the president's silence as far as i'm concerned tells us what we need to know. >> he has no fear of putting his own account out himself. and maybe he will. but to this point, as you point out, congressman, he has been silent. but it wasn't even clear, as you know, that trump would even bring russian meddling up. a lot of people thought he wouldn't. the white house indications were that he probably wasn't going to. but trump opened the meeting with putin and i want to just read you tillerson's words here by, quote, raising the concerns of the american people, end quote, regarding russian interference in the 2016 election. actually, that's where the quote ends. are you satisfied with that description, raising the concerns of the american people? >> he's right that it is a concern of the american people. three-quarters of the american people believe there should be an investigation into what russia did. but what's troublesome is that

id does not appear it is his concern. erin, i have to ask. what are we getting as a country out of this relationship or this meeting with russia? they attack our democracy. they have made a mess of our country over the past six months. they have been given secrets in the oval office. they haven't changed their behavior in syria or in ukraine, so what is the united states get something right now it looks like this was just another win for vladimir putin. >> the russians feel embolden. i mean, there is another important thing here from the meeting today, congressman. according to secretary tillerson, the russians asked for proof and evidence that russia was behind the election meddling. here is secretary tillerson. >> the russians have asked for proof and evidence. i'll leave that to the intelligence community to address. the answer to that question. >> i'll leave that to the intelligence community to

address. what do you make of that response, congressman? >> well, the intelligence community both put out a lot of evidence on this. they could go to my website. icon next all the dots as to russia's interference in our election. but if you put aside the questions around whether people on the trump team worked with russia, let's just put that aside, no one disputes that russia is going to do this again. and that's what i'm really concerned about is the president doesn't seem to want to do anything to protect or secure future elections. if you are a republican or a democrat, that should really worry you as we go into the november 2018 election cycle. >> so you just heard the president say nobody really knows. nobody really knows for sure. those are his words whether the russians meddling in the election right? the former chief james clapper said on cnn that that comment through the intelligence community under the bus. when the russians asked for proof today and tillerson's response was that's up to the intelligence community, did he

humiliate america's communities by not defending them? >> erin, i also want to point out that the president's statement yesterday at the press conference where he said that, you know, the russians did it. perhaps there were others. we'll never know. that sounded a lot like a statement he had made back in may of 2015 when he was confronted that the russians shot down the malaysian airlines flight. all the evidence showed that the russians were a part of that. but candidate trump at that time said maybe the russians did it. maybe ukraine did it. we'll never know. that throw-away statement is exactly what russia wants him to say, and that plays right into the russian playbook. it is just really sew doubt and make people question what is so obvious. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> my pleasure, erin. >> melania trump sent in to try

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election. here's how the secretary of state rex tillerson put it. >> what the two presidents focussed on is how do we move forward, how do we move forward from here because it is not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations. so the question is what do we do now? >> is the question what do we do now? because here is what's happening right now. current and former u.s. intelligence officials tell cnn russia has ramped up its spy activity since the election. nearly 150 spies in the united states right now. they say russia is em boll den. >> they are going to stretch the envelope as far as they can to collect information and largely to prep the battlefield for 2018 elections. >> outfront tonight the former chief of staff and director of

policy planning for the former secretary of state john kerry. john finer, former cia director under bill clinton, director james wolsy and john avalon. is the president rightly focussed on moving forward? >> not remotely sufficient. this is a meeting where he had a chance to sit down, not only show strength, but stand up for the integrity of the american system and it seems like he got rolled. whether or not you accept he accepted the results, tillerson said it is time to move on. this is an agree to disagree. we're not going to inflict any pain upon the russians going forward. the fact that we have announced a cyber working group is invitation to further mischief. this is a disastrous meeting with that result. >> director, last night we just saw james clapper. he said russia is preparing the battlefield. that is what they were doing. they were testing a lot of things out and 2018 is going to

be the real battlefield. should president trump accepted what is by gones is buy gones. >> rthey said not a word. let the cia fix it and let the russians continue to steal it. about two or three years later, as it started blowing up and taking out the entire soviet pipe lynn, reagan and casey smiled. >> you're saying don't mention anything? >> much more effective. now, if you have to mention something, i think you should be a bit grumpier than they were here. but mentioning something with the russians doesn't do much good unless you are in a circumstance like the one i was

lucky enough to be in in '79, '80, '81 when their empire was collapsing because the berlin wall was collapsing. the russians were really nice when their empire collapsed. that's what you want. and the best way to get that to happen now is probably to drive down the price of oil, the thing they care about the most. >> so john you have been in the room with vladimir putin many times. the last time that president obama and putin met there was the memorable icy stare. we'll show it to everybody, which everybody remembers. there is something about this. maybe it is the moment. but it is obviously pretty nasty looking. very different than today. trump and putin laughing, smiling, big handshake, patting him on a back. it was a very different tone. could trump be the one getting putin right? >> so i think we'll have to see. i think you're exactly right that the tone was completely different from the last few meetings that president obama had with president putin and not only in what we saw in the

camera, but in secretary tillerson's description of the meeting as warm as lots of good chemistry. that might not have been the way i would have chosen to characterize this meeting if people were already suspicious that there was something going on with president trump and putin. but the fact they chose to do it that way is quite telling. now we have to see what the u.s. does in the aftermath. >> we've seen this movie before with different presidents. slad mere has been the constant with four presidents. bush and obama began with an attempted reset. well, john mccain got it right. i looked in his eyes and i saw three letters, kgb. thinking you can charm your way or his nature as an individual is going to change is naive and dangerous. >> this is something that trump has embraced. it seems as if he's seen it in a competitive way. putin didn't like the other leaders of the united states,

but he's going to like me. here's president trump. >> he hates obama. doesn't hate us. i think he liked me. i'd get along great with him. >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. it would be great if we could get along with russia, just so you understand that. tomorrow you will say donald trump wants to get along with russia. this is terrible. it's not terrible. it is good. >> it all depends on why the russians want to get along with you. if they want to get along with you because you just destroyed your empire as we had effectively in a lot of ways in 1989, then that is fine. >> well that doesn't seem to be what it is now. >> well, no, because we have -- >> trying to x up and down his empire again, ukraine, crimea. >> we are sitting on our hands, smiling and nodding and some meetings go better. it doesn't matter. what you have to do is undermine their power. you do that, you'll get along

really nicely with them. they have -- people talk about the 150 new spies. the head of romanian intelligence defected back in '79, and he had with him a huge amount of materials which got him hanged in romania. but one of the things he had was their complete plans for disinformation, which is a massive lying program. they have more -- he was the head of their intelligence service. they have more people involved in disinformation than they do have men and women in uniform. >> and you think that's still true with the russians? >> i see no reason to believe that it's not. they are absolutely committed to a massive lie about the united states. >> yeah. >> which they call their great enemy. and we basically need to undercut that strategy and that approach. >> but the way that these

meetings go, i would assume, is putin says what he's going to say. they have this personable meeting and does trump know that's a lie. >> the question isn't whether he can get along with russia. in some ways that's the easy part. who knows who hacked the election? you'll get along with them fine. the question is what he can get out of russia. we have to be looking forward. the secretary tillerson, the most disturbing part of his comments is this thing that happened is a matter of history. the reason we want to understand what happened in that election is so we can protect the country now from 2018 to 2022. >> let's be clear. we know they were trying to access sensitive voter data. >> yeah. >> there is no evidence they effected any kind of vote itself. but clearly that was among the goals. if you didn't get it right the first time maybe you get it right the second time. >> especially because they have 16 months only to get through figuring out how to hack into the machine. >> more importantly, the horse they backed, what they wanted to

advance for whatever reason suck sed, right? i think it is one of the reasons the administration has discomfort in confronting this issue is because they were unwittingly the beneficiaries of this. but more importantly, the russians respond to leverage, to pain points. and the question is is there any evidence at all that this administration is going to try to inflict a degree of pain within diplomatic spears to change the behavior. the answer is none, none that we've seen. >> the president has the right temperament to do that, but i haven't seen it yet. i don't think you have either. >> thank you very much. pretty sobering words. next. why was president trump talking about john podesta and the 2016 election when he was getting ready to meet with world leaders here at the g20. >> and remember when rick perry forgot one of the government agencies he wanted to cut? >> the third one i can't -- sorry. oops. >> did perry top that moment or not? we've seen almost everything,

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someone from the past? alex is outfront. >> reporter: president trump has prided himself on being a nontraditional american president. but few things are more traditional than foreign visits. trump won praise for new lines supporting nato and calling out russia. >> we are encouraging russia to cease its stabilizing activities in ukraine and elsewhere and it's support for hostile regimes including syria and iran. >> reporter: but the old trump was still there, railing on the media. >> they have been fake news for a long time. >> reporter: and tweeting today about hillary clinton's campaign manager, saying everyone here is talking about why john podesta refused to give the dnc server to the fbi and cia. disgraceful. podesta saying, dude, get your head in the game. you are representing the u.s. >> i think donald trump is

becoming more of a world leader. he clearly has a lot of the protocol down pat. i think he enjoys getting out of the washington, d.c. at times he does well at these events, but he ends up ruining things by an odd tweet or using the word honor when meeting putin. then that becomes the headline. it seems like a botched j eed j >> the most highly anticipated meeting of the year. then the more formal sit-down. >> i think it is kind of strange that president trump talks about what an honor it is to meet vladimir putin. putin is somebody who has ordered a hacking of our elections in 2016, who is a global menace to american interest. so the danger for trump is in meeting of putin, wanting to show an amount of respect. he tends to perhaps overdo it. >> the upbeat mood in stark

contrast with putin's last meeting with an american president just as the u.s. was accusing russia in meddling in last year's presidential election. on the global stage with the eyes of the world watching, the stakes are higher. the dance a delicate one. trump's international learning curve has been a mine field. accused of courtesying or bowing to the king of saudi arabia. while in israel telling its president. >> we just got back from the middle east. >> prompting a face balm from israel's ambassador to the u.s. she shared classified information in the oval office, while ignoring the outreach of the friends. then the shove seen around the world, pushing aside the prime minister of montenegro. >> this has gotten him to the white house. whether it will get him to be seen as a successful president is what we're all sitting and waiting to see. >> reporter: but few are waiting to see whether president trump

dramatically changes that behavior at home or abroad. he seems to want to change what presidential means. he defended his use of social media which has so often gotten in the way of the bigger message saying on twitter the way he uses social media is not presidential, it is modern day presidential. erin? >> thanks very much. well put. now let's go to the jack king halston, who is also a senior advisor for the trump campaign and van jones. let me start with you and this podesta thing. the president tweeting everybody is talkings about john podesta. nobody is talking about podesta over there, which makes sense because why would you be? what does he gain by tweeting that? >> i think he has the ability to play games or, you know, on lots of different levels. and i don't mean a game necessarily. although van might say it is a game. but i think he does keep people off ball hans.

he's unpredictable. it is something the american people are cap vacittivated by. we saw spontaneous things on our own twitters. in this case it is a substantive question. >> or we consider it unprofessional and we don't. >> some would. but look at podesta's response to him. we got down in the gutter and called the president of the united states a whack job. but i think it is a substantive question, why isn't there an investigation about podesta when he was on the government payroll sitting on the board of a company that was doing business with russia. >> van? >> no, it's not. you know, part of what's so sad is that this is a summer when the united states is facing probably it's gravest threat since world war ii. we have an actual madman in north korea with actual nuclear missiles who is apparently now able to hit hawaii and alaska,

american soil. that should be full stop the agenda for the united states, to rally the world to stop the threat. i have no love lost for george w. bush, but when he just thought that saddam hussein might have weapons of mass destruction, he rallied the world. he tried to at least. we are in a situation where somebody who -- listen, on saddam hussein's worst day, he could be the psychiatrist for kim jong-un. we're talking about john podesta this summer? it's nuts. >> but, van, that is the genius of donald trump. he's not talking about john podesta. his critics are. what he's talking about is selling patriot missiles to poland, nato putting in more money in their defense budget. he dropped 59 tomahawk missiles in syria on russian backed troops. >> listen, when you are in your little bathtub with your rubber

ducky and telling yourself these stories, that's wonderful. but the rest of the country is looking at -- >> speaking of pulling a debate to the high ground. >> the rest of the country is looking at what they're actually seeing, which is somebody who one he is given a script and something to say and do, he apparently can do a decent job. but the minute he runs to the rest room or closet and could get his phone out, he starts doing nutty job. and it's not good for america. if this is genius, we got a bunch of genius kinder gardeners. >> van, i was thinking about you yesterday. you said during his state of the union address that he became the president of the united states. i think yesterday his address to poland, which was just as important, i think it was a magnificent speech. even democrats on some of the charts gave him a c. republicans of course gave him an a plus. but independents gave him a b on it. that's what multiple focus

groups said that because i think it was such a great speech. >> i think he has been presidential the whole time. nixon, nixon was president the whole time and he was -- he had very little respect for that office. and i think donald trump, when he does stuff like this, shows little respect for the office. he shows little respect for the american people. and i'm going to tell you -- i want to say one last thing -- the summer before 9/11 we talked about gary con dit and shawn dra le vi and distracted ourselves. right now you have a appellate gathering against this country from north korea and we're talking about everything but that because of your president. >> the headlines trump got just from today on the day of the tweet, right, trump confronts putin. u.s. and russia reach a deal on syria cease fire. u.s. labor market roars back. i guess they're all fake news, right? so it must be all untrue, congressman. although, i bet the president

would be happy to accept these headlines because they flatter him. >> i think he will. i think this is just part of donald trump, and those who dislike him and those who love him just have to accept it is part of him. but i do think what he is doing right now in europe is very important and i agree with van. north korea should be an international focal point. that's why sitting down with president putin is so important and yet the american press seems to -- some of the people that were on your last panel, erin, who did not think he raised the russian issue enough, i would have hoped that -- >> the former cia director and trump advisor, director had a far cry from a trump critic. >> they should be equally concerned about how much time in this two hour meeting, which was supposed to be a 30 minute meeting how much time was devoted to north korea and how much was dedicated to terrorism or syria? and i think that should be more of a focal point than did he press enough?

by the way, i can't believe they're going to accept lavrov's word over tillerson. >> i just think we have to respect the fact that, yeah, the president did -- got some stuff right on this trip. that's great. people, listen, i think most me americans would love to see him do that stuff. but nobody can look at one side of the sandwich. and when the other side has a whole bunch of crap in it, it is hard to eat that meal. >> next, rick perry gave a lesson on economics. did he have another oops moment or not. and we go to the ground in raqqa to find out if it's really happening, the cease fire. an exclusive look at the battle against isis.

new tonight the energy secretary rick perry being mocked for saying this in response to a question about the american shale gas boot. >> here's an economic lessons that supply and demand. you put the supply out there and the demand will follow that. >> so, again, that was about shale gas. he made the comment during a visit to a coal plant. is he actually right? senior economic advisor of the trump campaign and senior economics analyst steven moore

and john avland back with me. he says you put the supply out there, demand will follow. he's talking about shale gas and the energy market. are people right to mock him or not? >> i don't really see why there is any controversy here. sure, any time you have an increase in supply, what happens to the price when you have an increase in supply? >> well, it plunges. >> so we had a big increase in the supply, a huge increase. 75% in american production. and remember, here is a number for you. in 2014, the price of oil hit a high at $105 a barrel. today the price of oil is $45 to $50. we've seen a 50% decline. you've got a huge surge in demand for oil because it is cheap. in fact, what's happening in the energy markets right now is that huge boom in the shale oil and gas are really decimating all the other areas. everybody is using shale gas.

it is hurting nuclear and wind and solar. >> so you are making the case when it comes to energy markets. the question was about shale gas that at increase in supply because people want to drive. they will buy more gas and drive more. you are saying in the case that rick perry is talking about he's right and not ridiculous? >> what happened was the big increase in the supply over the last five or six or seven years has led to a reduction in price and a big increase and people are using more on gas and less of the alternative. i think he got his economics exactly right. i'm going to give him an a. >> thank you, professor. let's see if we could find some command grou common ground here. he got the equation backwards. as a general rule, you acknowledge that, right? >> what do you mean? explain. >> you're making the argument that the laws of supply and demand are inverse when it comes to energy because increased

supply will lead to lower costs which will increase demand. that may be a smart point with regard to make with energy. >> hold on. >> that's true of every industry. >> yeah. and when you have an increase in supply of something, then the price goes down because it's more affordable and people will buy more of it. >> assuming they want it. there is some products. but something like that -- >> that is true. that is true. >> look -- >> they want energy. that's the point. and the question was about shale gas. just to be clear. it was about shale gas. >> we're bending over backwards to be fair here. but the man misspoke. he screwed it up. he got it backwards. so i think when you try to spin it to make him look like a secret genius, it doesn't exactly ring true. >> do you think that's true or do you think he's a governor of texas and he knows the oil and gas market. >> that's what i was going to say. if there is anybody that knows the oil market, it is the governor of texas during this boom. and you just saw so many jobs created in texas.

look, i don't know exactly the point that he was trying to make there, but it is true that we've had a big, big increase in jobs. we've got a big increase in, you know, the great thing that's happening in the energy market right now is that we're now exporting oil for the first time, a big story in the wall street journal about that. that's all good and the increase of supply and the technology has made that all possible. >> but you'd acknowledge also that in the last decade when we had the shale gas boom, the price of oil and gas at the pump hasn't consistently gone down, right? >> it has the last four -- >> it has fluctuated over periods. >> it's been down now for three years. three years ago we were at 4 a gallon. >> part of this, john, is political in the sense it was rick perry, okay, and that's part of the reason it is getting so much attention. he has been accused -- not accused. he has committed the gap before.

>> for those watching television for the last few years, let us replay it. >> oh. >> the third agency of government i would do away with the education, the commerce and -- let's see. i can't. the third one i can't. sorry. oops. >> is he a victim of being stereotyped, john? >> yes. yes, he is. you know, you screw up your own cabinet position in that public a forum, that's going to leave a mark. >> that's part of why we're seeing what we're seeing now. i appreciate. out front next, on the verge of what they say, putin and trump say a cease fire in syria. we are on the ground. and then on a much lighter note, this. ♪ >> do you remember this? the count down to the '80s, one of the stars of 90210 comes

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president trump striking a deal with the russian president vladimir putin. they are agreeing to stop to try the violence in syria. tonight in an explosive report, cnn takes you to the heart of the deadly war against isis tonight. payton walsh is out front in northern syria. nick, you are actual hi there. they could talk about making a deal but you are seeing what it means. tillerson says there is a cease fire now in syria. you have been covering this war and you are there now. will it hold? >> reporter: uncheer lear at th point. in the south we're talking about some of the lesser tense areas. we've seen a lot of tension

there. often even with u.s. trainers in the midst and there have been requirements to talk to try to calm that kind of thing done. so this deal when it comes into effect we learn more detail about it may go further to calm that down and perhaps reduce some of the tension with jihadists in their midst as well and make key allies to the south, jordan more comfortable, too. but does it hold? no. the key take away is the first time trump and putin meet, they seem to get on the same page. remember, the obama administration, they wanted them out. tillerson saying they will leave eventually. but that's not the tenant of their policy here. >> of course every leader will leave eventually. you know, also tonight, nick, you are aware international forces have been tightening their grip around the isis declared capital of raqqa. what is the situation there?

>> it is extraordinary how fast the progress seems to be in the outskirts of raqqa. the area we went through today to travel through the old city, about three or four kilometers that drew and backed by u.s. air power and at some point distance artillery, too. that seemed to fall in the last three weeks or so. it was the last few days that a coalition air strike punch twod holes in the inshent wall. that itself is a dense area. but those backed forces have pushed quite quickly into the old city. about three or four hundred meters inside so far. so the part of raqqa is about one-and-a-half miles across as far as we can tell by some of the maps we saw. that isn't particularly big at all. yes, it is a very dense urban area they told. they are slowed down these coalition backed forces by the fact they can't do much fighting in the day. they are pinned down by isis snipers. at night we saw ourselves a lot of air power in the skies moving

in towards that city. that's when the coalitions main advantage comes into play. whether or not the thousands of civilians supposed to be in that city slow the further advance, now they get into more dense you are back areas, we will have to see. raqqa very symbolic for them but it is falling quicker than i expected in the outskirts. >> thank you very much. thank you. and next, back to the '90s with a preview of this awesome new series. i'll talk to one of the stars of "beverly hills 90210". >> she's cute. >> yeah. it's my ex-girlfriend. >> what happened? >> i dumped her. that's cool. showing off my arms? that's cool. being comfortable without a shirt? that's cool. getting the body you want without surgery,

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tonight, we are counting down to cnn's next original series "the 90s," home to one of the most popular teen soaps of all time, "beverly hills 90210." >> you know what you are, wilson? >> no, big man, why don't you tell me. >> you're a has been. >> "outfront now," you played steve sanders on ""90210." that was a funny moment. to many, you're still known, you're forever known as steve sanders. did you have any idea when "90210" first started that it would take off and become the cultural phenomena the way it

did? >> i never could have imagined it would have achieve the suck set it found. the premiere episode didn't get such great reviews, so i thought shortly after that i would be looking for more work. fortunately, the fans real question picked up the baton and ran for ten years with it. >> when you watch these clips, you know, "90210" inspired -- look, it captured the moment of how teenagers feel and it inspired teen fashion and had its own album. what do you think the lasting impact of "beverly hills 90210" was? >> it was an original concept, a teen drama that dealt with reality. all the struggles that we deal with during teenage life. we dealt it with in very real topical ways. and it bridged a gap. i mean, there's even whispers now of getting the cast back together and doing it all over again. >> i have to ask you also, because you were on "celebrity

apprentice" and i just wanted to play one clip, obviously a pretty important clip, from the board room. here it is. >> i did your jingle go, can you remember it? >> i can. ♪ ♪ it might sound crazy, but it's true ♪ ♪ it's a cool zing >> that sounds like "kukaracha." you're fired. >> hopefully you have recovered. what was your experience with trump on the show? >> i found him to be very friendly, very nice, funny. this is before any of the -- any of his aspirations, or known aspirations for political office. he was a nice guy. >> thanks so much. i appreciate it.

thanks for being with me. >> thanks so much, erin. >> you can also catch him on "sha "sharknado five." have a great weekend to all of you. see you next week and thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts right now. so did the president of the united states stand up to vladamir putin on election hacking or let him off the cyber hook? john berman in here for anderson. the answer may depend on what really happened after this hand shake. presidents trump and putin met today. they talked far longer than expected, or at least longer than we were led to believe. then two vastly accounts emerged of what transpired. tonight, they're driving two competing assessments how president trump handled his first encounter with someone more than just a key player on the world stage, but a central figure in the