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the face-to-face one-on-ones with vladimir putin and xi jinping. how did the president do? also 50 billion objects will be connected to the internet in the not too distant future. sounds great, right? but that is 50 billion potential entry points for hackers. we'll tell you about it. and america celebrated independence day this week. but are americans forgetting their own history. a fascinating conversation with billionaire philanthropist david rubenstein. but first here's my take, in washington there is a conventional wisdom on north korea that spans both parties and much elite opinion. it goes to like, this north korea is a crack pot dictator

with a strange hair cut. he is irrational and cannot be negotiated with. meanwhile the only solution is more and more pressure. but what if the conventional wisdom is wrong? the north korean regime has survived for almost seven decades, preserving not only it's government, but it's dynasty. it has persisted through the fall of the soviet union, the rise of the arab spring. the kim dynasty has been able to achieve striking success in it's primary objective, survival. look at the world from north korea's perspective. the regime saw the collapse of the soviet empire and an even more unsettling transformation

in its key ally, china, which went from being a fiery ideological soul mate to a trading nation. china was urged to condemn north korea at -- and the united states has made clear for decades that north korea is-degreis destins for the ash heap of history. so the north korean regime has tried to buy insurance. and in the realm of international affairs, the best insurance is nuclear weapons. north korea has accurately calculated that china and south korea are more terrified of the chaos that would follow a war or its collapse, then of north korea's nuclear arsenal. perhaps the right way to look at north korea then is smart, rational, calculating government

that is functioning smoothly given it's priority regime survival. more pressure only strengthens it's resolve to buy even more insurance. so how to handle it under these circumstances. well the first way to break the logjam in u.s. policy would be to convince china to put real pressure on its ally, that won't happen by serving president xi chocolate cake at mar-a-lago. under pressure north korea could collapse and the newly unified korea would resemble south korea. washington will have to promise beijing now that in the event of unification, it would withdraw its troops, change the nature of its treaty relationship with the new korea and working with china eliminate korea's nuclear arsenal. but pressure will only work if

there's some reason for north korea to make concessions. pyongyang has indicated in the past that it seeks a formal end to the korean war. remember, washington signed only an armistice in 1953. obviously none of this should be offered right now, but there is no harm in talking to pyongyang and searching for ways to achieve the eradication of the not r nuclear program. but there is reason to hope that china will -- hope however is not a strategy. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started.

it is not often on the show that we can break good news about iraq, but today is one of those days. iraq's prime minister abbad did arrived in mosul today and declared it liberated this was avenue three years of control by isis. it was a bloody fight to recapture iraq's second largest city. but it is apparently over. nick watson walsh is near mosul. nic, that was said to be one of the worst battles since world war ii. what did u.s. and iraqi traps learn about isis. >> reporter: it's incredibly lard to fight an enemy that actually courts and welcomes death. we still hear there are slight

pockets of fighting despite abadi's tweets. it's been an issue of excusuici bombers, there are still so many questions at this point about how many civilians have been killed in the final moments of this very bloody battle about how many iraqi security forces have died too. there's a moment of sort of a weight being lifted from the shoulders of iraq here, a nation burdened by a 15 years of war here. three years and ten days since al-abadi predicted -- when iraqi

forces reached the tigris river. initially caused extremists to this group, unnerved the shiia after years of being repressed against the majority. to bring this city back into the fold again, to build again, and we'll see some new sort of it's sits come forward, but that is the future's challenges, today we have dealing with perhaps a momentous moment in iraq, where the offshoots of ideology and terror attacks, in the uk, paris, london, brussels, i could go on. but today face an enormous

symbolic finish in iraq. >> it's unfortunate that the symbolism doesn't include being able to fly iraq's flag because of course isis destroyed that mosque as one of its final acts of barbarism. next on gps, the g-20 meeting and the much awaited and much anticipated putin-trump meeting. was it worth all the fuss? we'll discuss when we come back. ♪ ♪

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president trump landed in hamburg, germany ahead of the g-20 meeting. here to talk about this is our panel. eliot abrams joins us from washington, he was the national security advisor for george w. bush and reportedly a top contender for the deputy secretary of state position in the obama administration. let's do this sequentially, and what did you think of donald trump's speech in poland. i was struck by the way in which he spoke of the west really as a kind of civilization more than an idea. >> yes, that was very striking

to everybody who heard the speech, it was as if the west was a civilization or even almost a kind of tribal organization which is at war with other people and that was left slightly unclear who the other people were, it sounds like he was talking about islamic radicalism. of course american presidents for years and years have been coming to warsaw, obama did it, george w. bush did it. but they usually use different language, at length about nato, it was about our democracy, it was about poland's journey from dictatorship to democracy, it saw the west as a kind of positive political group community. this sounded a little bit different. it sounded a little bit tribal. no mention of democracy or very little. a very glancing reference to nato and to russia. it was really quite different and people here are quite confused by it.

>> what do you make of that? it did sound like trump, and i think steve bannon might have written this speech, this was the west as religion, race, tribe, culture, not the west as democracy, liberty and the rule of law, and as somebody in the reagan administration as i recall, had the portfolio of spreading democracy around the world, what do you make of it? >> i thought it was a very good speech, and i'm afraid i have to disagree with anne, he must have used the word freedom about 15 times, he talked a lot about polish history which has a history of russian control. which all took courses in western civilization, it shouldn't be a great shock. he talked about culture but so did pope john paul talk about western culture. it was a speech in poland which wants to be part of the west. so i think his criticisms are

really extreme and wrong. >> anne marie, let's go to the russia part of this, the putin meeting, how do you think it went? what do you make of trump going to europe and, you know, getting on well with putin. >> and he got on far better with putin than he did with our allies at nato and the g-20. but i think the most important thing to me about his meeting with putin, is that the russians are celebrating. it was deemed a triumph for putin in russia. and he gave putin the two things that putin wants most. one as an equal on the world stage with cyber security, you talk about the fox guarding the hen house, i couldn't say it better. >> trump saying that we might have a joint task force. >> we'll hand over some more of

our keys to our cyber kingdom. but putin wants to be the leader of the world stage with no questioning of what he does at home. and there was nothing, there was nothing about ukraine, there was nothing by human rights violations, there was nothing about the way he cracked down, and his corruption, the kinds of things that george h.w. bush, george w. bush, clinton, obama, all pushed back on the universal western human rights that applies to everyone and the russian government. >> he went to asia the last time before his european trip. he went to poland first, they bussed in 15,000 people, they say trump, trump, trump. they control dissent, where it's not about democracy.

then he goes to g-20 and meets with vladimir putin, to go in and try and delegitimize the rush -- if you air putin who wants a more multipolish system where everybody has influence in their backyard. russia doesn't get bothered by the americans, china's their biggest problem. but look at trump's tweet this morning where he says until we have movement on ukraine and syria, i can't move on sanctions. look at what he had to say to the russians, had to at least say, look i actually did push them on the hacks. we know he doesn't care about the hacks, we know there are no consequences, but the reality of these investigations which are only going to pick up steam constrains putin to only have a

win and that means the united states. >> and how did trump's meeting with putin go down in poland. did they like the embrace of putin? >> well, it's very complicated to say what poland thinks of trump, because poland like the united states is very divided. one of the previous speakers is to the u.s. government. which is liberal or liberalizing is the best way to put it and actually brought in people to cheer for trump at the speech to make sure that there was no disharmony. therefore people who are pro the government are confused by the meeting with putin, people who are anti-the government are pointing fingers and saying, look, we told you so, why are you trusting this man? that's actually a common

sentiment across europe. people notice the gap donald trump uses in written speeches, his talk about the west and so on. and the difference between that and the way he tweets and speakings extemporaneously. where he criticizes, he's criticized the judicial system, he talks about enemies of the state. this is all total tarn and differencingings from the fast. people in europe don't trust him, they don't know what he stands for or when he can be relied upon. >> next, as the g-20 meeting was ending, france's president emanuel macron said the world has never been so divided. is he right? i will ask the panel when we come back.

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we are back here with our panel. you've prepared presidents for many different kinds of summits, how do you think this one was? >> the real work is done in the bilateral meetings, trump obviously trying to work with xi jinping on north korea. trying to work with putin on syria. and today we get a cease fire that maybe will save some lives. on other things where you can't work with other people, what does he do after the summit? he immediately sends tillerson to kiev and sends a known envoy.

i think this summit is pretty standard except for one thing. trump has a separate position on climate change. and that leads president macron to make what frankly is a silly statement, the world has never been so divided. yeah, how about the cold war and world war ii and world war i, let's put things introper spo perspective. >> what do you think, is this much ado about nothing? >> i think the difference between this summit and trump's last meeting to europe, i think this time people are a little bit more prepared for trump. last time people didn't know what to expect, everything he did came as a surprise. this meeting we knew that trump wasn't going along with the climate change.

i disagree with eliot on one point, it's not just climate change where he's different and it's also trade, and europe dealt with that by announcing right on the eve of the summit, a new trade agreement between the european union saand japan. people are determined to go ahead with a trade agenda, a climate agenda, and other issues that the europeans care about. so they're going to go around president trump. i'm sure there are going to be ways to everyone works together for all of us. but europe now recognizes that the u.s. is now different than the last four or five administrations, and they're looking for ways to do things without them. >> it is striking how the europeans are stepping on to the world stage that the united states seems to be somewhat

stepping back from? >> i think the sort of way to look at this trip is america first, means america alone, which means america last, because essentially what he has done is hand the banner of an inner dependent global rule governed world, tackling global problems to the europeans. to macron and to merkel and suddenly they are building a global trade area that will extend japan, australia, all the way across russia and china. >> and of course the eu is a larger market than the u.s., so these other countries are interested? >> and china is the eu's biggest trading partner. so now you have the eu, and xi jinping and japan and australia, our allies creating trading agreements, they're taking the lead on climate, they're taking the lead on how you shape

globalization, that's what this was about, shaping global station, we're pulling out, we say year america first but basically we're america isolated. >> you talked about a g-0 world. >> certainly these countries around the world are seeing the united states as much less of a leader, and that's where you get macron, it's not on climate and change, it's also on values, the which was the g-7, and now the g-20. merkel in germany has the biggest problem with that because she's the one who sees the west in the least transactional ways, that relationship is fundamentally more broken. but the other big take away from this summit was the meeting with xi jinping, you had the meeting at mar-a-lago, trump and president xi getting along very

well. that relationship is clear deterioratin deteriorating, some are going to -- mexico canada, but with the countries that aren't, trump is betting on countries like poland and saudi arabia, he's not betting on countries like china and germany. when you think about the united states not being alone, but being the superpower that only a few have to be, but the rest aren't, we do see an unwind. >> 30 seconds, america alone, is that a fair characterization? >> no, i think it's not a fair characterization, i think one of the things that trump has done is reaffirm the commitment to nato. he's talked just now about a new trade agreement with the uk. i think we are building under bush, then obama, and we will continue to build now a much closer relationship with india.

so i think this is really overstated, people are frankly looking for ways to pick apart trump foreign policy, but i actually think the criticism is quite silly. the g-20 doesn't stand for our values, with china and russia in the it, it has nothing to do with our values, it's a way of getting governments to meet to help solve problems and that's all it is. >> we will leave it at that. next on gps, the russian view of the donald trump putin meeting, one of russia's foremost policy thinkers, once a close advisor to the president in just a moment. isn't just what you invest in, but who you invest with. ♪ pain is sometimes in my hands, be a distraction. right before a performance especially. only aleve has the strength to stop minor arthritis pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill.

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you heard of what other american policy experts think of the trump-putin meeting. joining me now is the dean of the school of international

economics and foreign affairs at russia's national research university. he has advised president putin himself. what did you make of the meeting? >> well, it was a long anticipated good news, some saw it has being restored, leaders are starting to talk to each other, it might have cast a good shadow on the overall state of russian-american relations with are bizarre, toxic on both sides, but especially on the american side. and are completely counter productive and even dangerous. >> the way it has been characterized by the russian side. president putin explained to president trump that the russians had not interfered in the rust elections and that

president trump agreed with that assessment. is that your understanding of what happened? >> that is my understanding of what happened, but i have not been in that room, as you might expect. so i don't know what was happening there, but i know that russians are saying and believing that they have not interfered, first and i think mr. putin has a lot of first class information to support s his -- they're starting to discuss the cyber warfare things is a healthy development, i think we have to deal with these matters much more seriously than we used to. >> russia and israel were the only two countries where a majority of people preferred donald trump to hillary clinton, do you think that president

trump's embrace of putin, the fact that they had a good meeting, has this sort of vindicated the russian view that they were right to think that trump would be a better president from russia's point of view than the alternative? >> i don't think that there was real support for mr. trump and i don't think this is a deep support for mr. trump because now we all know he's handicapped by this kinky inside struggle that you have in your country, that undermines your position in the world and your seat. what we're sure of is the accommodation of neocons and liberal internationalists which would have come with mrs. clinton would have been the worst possible scenario, they would have had to vindicate their defeats they have incurred

on their country and the destabilization that has occurred around the world. so mrs. clinton was the worst possible, not her, but her administration was the worst possible outcome we'll see what happens now. >> it seemed to me that vladimir putin must have had a single strategic goal, which is publicly articulated often, which is an end to the sanctions that were put in place by the western countries after the annexation of crimea and the invasion of ukraine. do you think that donald trump's tweet this morning in which he said i cannot move on sanctions unless the russians move on ukraine. was that disappointing, do you think there was hope that donald trump would in some way relax the american sanctions but more importantly allow the europeans to relax theirs, which is of

course the crucial issue for russia? >> there are many people in my country who believe the sanctions are useful. and there are others like myself who say that we're entering a different very economically liberal world, unfortunately. and of course, mr. putin or any russian strategic goal is not about sanctions, we want our world to be more secure, we want to avoid a war, and we want to restore us, which we are partially, we have restored our might and now we'll have to restore our economy to become a full power. that is our strategic goal, so the sanctions are a hindrance but not a severe one, and it's

just one of the items on our agenda. >> do you think putin left the summit a happy man? >> he is a happy man, he has been winning, and he believes he's morally and intellectually right, but he's very good at hiding that, he's very direct and very forthcoming and he bushes good relations with the united states. i'm a happy man after the meeting because i believe that our relations were very dangerous. >> putin is winning, pleasure to have you on. next on gps, george santiana said those who do not remember the past are destined to repeat it. how to get people interested in the past? a billionaire has an idea and he's spending tens of millions of dollars to test it out.

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this past tuesday, americans celebrated one of america's most treasured holidays. it should really be seen as a celebration of one of america's most important documents, the declaration of independence, which was approved by the continental congress on july 4, 1776. it is thus the date inscribed on that document. 47 years after the declaration was signed, when the original was already said to be fading, an ingraving was made off of it. my next guest owns four of the existing five copies of the

so-called stone engraving. he doesn't keep them in his living room, they are on display in washington, d.c. he also owns one of only four surviving copies of magna carta, also on display at the archives. the 13th amendment and the emancipation proclamation are on display at the new museum of african-american history and culture. the owner of all these and more, david rubenstein, the billionaire businessman who made his money as co-founder and co-ceo of the carlyle group. i sat down and asked him why he collects these pieces of paper and why it's so important for people to see them. >> explain why you do these, because it's an unusual kind of charity, most people think the government should be doing this, why are you doing it? >> one, the government doesn't have as much money as people think it has or should have.

for example, take the national parks system, which everyone loves, it has $11 billion of the parks system. the government's not going to come up with all of it the private sector is going to come up with all of it. one, we know to know more about american history, americans know so little about american history, if you have go to some of these memorials and monuments, you can learn about history. you can go to the washington monument online, and learn about the washington monument, but there's something that says when i go to the monument, i'm going to go back and learn more about it. in a recent survey, less than 3% of americans can name is three branches of government. and 10% said that judge judy because on the supreme court, which she is not yet. >> sometimes you just buy a document so that it can be preserved. what are you looking for, what is the criteria?

>> i'm looking to buy historic documents, like the magna carta, the emancipation proclamation, that are well known, put them on display at the smithsonian, the archives, the u.s. constitution center and go and see them. they might learn more about it. if you look at a document in a book you might not be inspired to learn more about it. but when you see the original, you want might to know mother about it. more people are interested in the founding fathers, than ever before, hopefully by seeing the original copies of these documents you might be inspired to learn more. and my theory is if people learn more about our country's history, we might have a better country and a better democracy. >> what is your favorite one of all of these that you've done. >> when i went to visit thomas jefferson's home, when i went

there the first time it needed some repair, and we agreed on how much money was necessary and she has helped transform it to a much better place than it was before. take the magna carta, enormous numberings of people go see it at the national archives, because it was similvery import not only in our history but in european history. >> when i go around the country, people say we don't teach enough civicings. >> you can graduate as a history major and never take any courses of american history to graduate. there are no civics courses taught largely in senior high anymore. people who are naturalized citizens, which you are, a naturalized citizen, the test you took to become a naturalized

citizen i doubt most people could pass. those people who don't remember history are condemned to relive it. my view is that people who don't keep historic documents are unlikely to remember as much of the past as they should. so i would like to preserve these documents and preserve places that people should visit like homes, monuments and memorials. >> you pledged to give away most of your money in your lifetime. why do you think more people don't do that? >> well, if you come from very modest circumstances and many people in the forbes 400 do, they work their way up. all of a sudden working very hard to make this money and then say you're going to give it away takes a lot of thought. i did very well in my business career and i'm really viewing it as a down payment on my obligation to give back to the country, i hope other americans will feel the same. the united states does have a

disproportionate a lot of people giving away money than others. americans are just more philanthropic by nature than people around the world. hopefully that will change. >> pleasure to have you on. >> my pleasure. next on gps, you just heard david rubenstein say that he doubts most native born americans could pass the civics test. if you are a citizen or never set foot in america, we'll test your knowledge coming back. why are you deleting these photos?

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you just heard my guest david rubenstein talk about the citizenship test that immigrants take to become naturalized american citizens, he wondered if most americans could pass it. i thought i would give you a taste of that test with two questions from the current version. how many voting members are there in the house of representatives. the test asking about american government today and about u.s. history. and that brings me to the next

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are 435 voting members in the house of representatives. each state's allotment is determined by population, 435 is actually the maximum number of representatives in the house as set by law. there are also six nonvoting members, one from each of the five territories, american sam mowa, guam, puerto rico, the u.s. virgin islands and one from the district of columbia. in 1803, thomas jefferson doubled the size of the united states by purchasing the 530 million acres known as the louisiana territory. france sold it for a mere $15 million, which today would be roughly $300 million or what some experts say is the worth of mar-a-lago, president trump's florida club, jefferson really understood the art of the deal. if you would like to see if you can pass this test, go to

cnn.com/fareed. to pass the test, you must get 6 out of 10. there is a 91% pass rate. let me know how you did by tweeting me @fareedzakaria, thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week, i will see you next week. hey, i'm brian stelter, it's time for ""reliable sources."" this is our weekly look at the story behind the story, of how the media really works and how the news gets made. right now the news media working overtime to find out what really happened in that pivotal meeting between presidents trump and putin. one big question hovering over all of it is, who should we believe? the russians shared their account on camera, first the foreign minister holding a press briefing then vladimir putin held a press conference at the conclusion at the g-20 summit. but we have no pictures to show